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[Q] Charge times

How long does it take to fully charge your One-X?
Mine is already charging 3.5h to get from 40%to 80%....
Using the default charger, and not using the device.
Isn't that a bit to long?? My HD2 was completely charged in 2h..

Foggy79 said:
How long does it take to fully charge your One-X?
Mine is already charging 3.5h to get from 40%to 80%....
Using the default charger, and not using the device.
Isn't that a bit to long?? My HD2 was completely charged in 2h..
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I am no expert, so don't hold me on this one, but I believe your device charge should speed up due to firmware updates and also once the battery has been 'worn' in - just stuff I have seen about.

Can anyone else provide me their charge times? How long it takes to charge from A to B?
Pls mention with wall outlet or USB.

I've noticed this as well. My Arc charges in like 2-3h to full. the One X takes about 2 hours to get to about 60% from 30% (using USB).
edit: wall charging takes just as long.

WC_EEND said:
I've noticed this as well. My Arc charges in like 2-3h to full. the One X takes about 2 hours to get to about 60% from 30% (using USB).
edit: wall charging takes just as long.
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Can't be normal, right? 2h from 30% to 60%...

i think its to do with the type of battery they are using to be fair

Interesting reading about lithium based batteries
this is a quote from batteryuniversity dot com
Simple Guidelines for Charging Lithium-based Batteries
• A portable device should be turned off while charging. This allows the battery to reach the threshold voltage unhindered and reflects the correct saturation current responsible to terminate the charge. A parasitic load confuses the charger.
• Charge at a moderate temperature. Do not charge below freezing.
• Lithium-ion does not need to be fully charged; a partial charge is better.
• Chargers use different methods for “ready” indication. The light signal may not always indicate a full charge.
• Discontinue using charger and/or battery if the battery gets excessively warm.
• Before prolonged storage, apply some charge to bring the pack to about half charge.
• Over-discharged batteries can be “boosted” to life again. Discard pack if the voltage does not rise to a normal level within a minute while on boost.
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And I also read that charge time should be almost 3h for a full charge(i suppose this is when device turned off). You could get about 70% charge in about an hour if I remember correctly.

Hmm not gonna turn off the phone for every charge tbh...
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium

While charging and using the phone it takes around 5 hours to get from 5% to 14% when not using but charging takes around 3-5 hours to charge from 25% to 100%

My second charge, from 0% to 100%, with device shut down took 3.5 hours to show the green led... quite a long time since I was using the wall-charger... I hope it will improve with the fw update and after the battery has been "initialized"

Today I began charging my HOX at 1:44 (1%) and it finally reached 100% at 4:59.
I was using HTC's charger.

WiplashNL said:
Today I began charging my HOX at 1:44 (1%) and it finally reached 100% at 4:59.
I was using HTC's charger.
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same here, about 3h from shutdown with 0% to seeing green LED
using wall charger

Took me three hours with original HTC wall charger and original HTC cable (no extension) to charge from 4% to 100%. Terribly slow!

EDIT 1 : Apparently BWM doesn't show accurate power draw while idle on the One X for now, so my post has become totally irrelevant
I always install Battery Monitor Widget on all my Android devices and monitor charge and discharge constantly.
On my Desire Z, if it's below 70%+ I get a charge rate of about 750mAh from wall socket.
But on my One X, with the same charger (both are rated for 1amp, and both HTC), my charge rate drops to 450+ at 60% battery life.
It's probably a software issue, but charging the One X does take noticeably longer.

I don't think it is a software issue, as the battery pack is larger than before. Also when you are active the phone itself draws large amount of current and it definitely slow down your charge rate.

eeporkbun said:
I don't think it is a software issue, as the battery pack is larger than before. Also when you are active the phone itself draws large amount of current and it definitely slow down your charge rate.
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When your phone is idle with screen of, it shouldn't drain large amounts of power while charging. Can't imagine that has a huge influence on charge times tbh.
And for capacity, my HD2 was charged in about 2H for a 1200Ah battery, this 1800Ah One-X batt should be full in like 3h... not 5 or 6h...

The official wall charger took 2.5 hours to fully recharge the One X

Ok after an amount of charges, it now takes only 2.5h - 3h anymore for a complete recharge.
Official wall charger.

Did a charge on mine this morning from dead, took 2.5 hours to get to about 90%, left it for another hour but it didn't go up the last 10% stayed on 90 even after the extra hour. Off the wall

Foggy79 said:
Hmm not gonna turn off the phone for every charge tbh...
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium
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I'm thinking the same... I don't mind turning it off on a night for the first 2/3 charges but personally this is my only phone (don't have a house phone) so will be keeping it on through the night in case someone needs me in an emergency etc...
Was interesting to read that batteries prefer a partial charge and do not need to be fully charged; which is good actually as mines got around 18% left and I'm about to stick it on charge for the next 8 hours.

[Q] How fast does your G4 charge with a Quick Charge 2.0 charger?

According to Qualcomm:
https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/quick-charge:
In laboratory tests using a 3300mAh battery1, a Quick Charge 2.0 enabled device went from 0% to 60% charge in 30 minutes, while a device without Quick Charge 2.0 using a conventional (5 volt, 1 amp) charger achieved just a 12% gain in the same 30 minutes. A device with Quick Charge 1.0 managed a 30% charge in that time period.
Scrolling down on that page it shows the most popular Quick Charge 2.0 devices, the LG G4 is among them.
So the G4 3000mAh battery should be above 60% in 30 minutes if it uses Quick Charge 2.0.
I got this charger:
http://goo.gl/082zmj
Seems legit, but my charge times seem to be stuck at 1.0. That is it went from 19% to 55% in 30 minutes, which means it charged 36% in 30 minutes.
What kind of time have you clocked with your Quick Charger?
Also, my G4 got quite hot when charging.

Already a thread about this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3122096
It will answer all your questions.

UCH10 Fast charging not working

I have just bought the UCH10 from Sony to try out on the fast charging, its seems charging at the same rate as a regular 2.1A Charger.. Anyone facing this issue?

finoqq84 said:
I have just bought the UCH10 from Sony to try out on the fast charging, its seems charging at the same rate as a regular 2.1A Charger.. Anyone facing this issue?
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I don't know about the UCH10, but I know with my Powergen charger I see it going into HV (fast charge) mode. (The charger I have has an indicator for when it's in 9v mode).
However, I have noticed this device's thermal throttling is pretty aggressive. You need to let the thing idle if you expect it to charge at any reasonable rate thanks to the Snapdragon 810 being a power hog.

Confimed the UCh10 charger fast charge working
Only got 13% from 1% for 15mins
What happened!!

Mine came with the UCH10 charger and am using my short Sony usb cable that came with my headset (EC300). I went from 4% to 100% in 1 hour and 35 mins. At the end of the day with my bluetooth headset and smart watch conneted all day (12 hours) moderate use emails,mms,calls. I have about 42% remaining. It only seams to be getting better with each charge. Today it went from 5% to 100% in 1 hour and 22 mins.

Perheps Sony's fast charging is to speed up overall charging at a faster rate. As i was from Note 5, its charging takes only 10 mins to jump from 5% to 38%!!
Perheps they are both using different fast charging tech?

finoqq84 said:
Perheps Sony's fast charging is to speed up overall charging at a faster rate. As i was from Note 5, its charging takes only 10 mins to jump from 5% to 38%!!
Perheps they are both using different fast charging tech?
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Both are using the same under different names. Samsung named it "Adaptive fast charging" and the rest use qualcomm's name "Quick charge".
For example mine is in the box with standard 1.5 normal charger, but I am using the charger from my dead note 4 (yes it is a quick charger one) which is charging z5p at the same speed like my note 4. Also I am monittoring the charge rate, and I can confirm that samis Adaptive charger charging at max using qualcomm's quick charge standard our z5p devices.
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If note 5 charging so fast it must be another tech from Samsung (or wrong battery stats - believe me I experienced these few times on my note 4 during flashing AOSP roms).
Cheers
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I can remember that note 4 when stock (tw) is charging much more aggressively during initial charge (upto around 50%, and then it just slow down), while AOSP is fast charging constantly (lower rate compared to samis stock tw rom) but use quck charge upto 90-95%.. It is a setting at the end. Yoi can force set this with custom kernel.

Is your phone quick charging ?

I used a few Qualcomm Quick Charging phones before, quick charge 2.0/3.0 and they were all pretty quick to charge, like 30 mins 60%. Just before the Razer I had the Oneplus 3T which used the Dash charge technology and that was like superquick.
The razer supposedly has the latest QuickCharge 4+ technology.. but I am yet to see the phone charge "QUICK".
When connected with the original razer wall charger, It is maxing at about 1920Ma using 4.01 V. (checked using ampere app)
I also tried a different usb c cable, on a different quickcharge 3.0 wall charger and it is giving me exatly the same output at 1920Ma max.
This is not right, is anyone else experiencing similar charge speeds ?

Don't know the electrical figures but performance wise mine charges to 60% in the first 40-45mins.
But then sadly it takes a while to finish the full charge. Like another hour.
On the lockscreen it states 'rapidly charging' so it seems to be using the technology. Remember this has a 4000mah battery, what phone were you using before?
That being said I'm getting fantastic battery life so in my case this doesn't bother me.

Good batt life here too. About an hour and 50 minutes from 4% to 100%.
Not sure how right that is. I think it was prolly 30 to 40 minutes to 50% or so.
Funny thing was, I charged while the phone was off, the white icon on the black background showed 100% (no numbers but it was full) but when I started the phone the battery status was 95%.

Ok, I got the other phone replaced because it had couple issues. I put this new phone on charge last night when it was on 7%. On the ampere app it maxed out to like 3000 something Ma and there was a buzzing/whining noise coming from the charger/wall adapter. I left it on charge till like 40% or something and I was not comfortable with the sound from the charger so i removed it.
Put the phone on charge today, it was on 35%. The sound from the charger is still there but not as loud as yesterday. Checked on the ampere app, its pushing on average 1900Ma this time.
35% at 11:27
50% at 11:45
61% at 11:57
75% at 12:13
91% at 12:34
96% at 12:48
1. I still feel the phone is not charging fast enough although it is saying rapid charging. Like mentioned before, connecting the phone to a lower standard quick charge 3.0/2.0 power port is charging at the same numbers..
2. Having looking at these links below, the numbers dont add up to what they are advertising quickcharge 4+ with.
https://www.qualcomm.com/products/features/quick-charge
and https://www.qualcomm.com/news/onq/2...alcomm-quick-charge-4-your-next-mobile-device
3. I've never had any charger/ wall adapter that made such noise. Is this a defective unit, or is such noise on these expected if it is like charging at a faster rate? the previous one was queit.. but then again the previous one did not push over 1900Ma, this one got to over 3000Ma.

Don't know what to tell ya, but I've heard zero noise from the chargers, I've got 2 units. Purposely kept my original instead of using the rma'd charger just in case. I'm not sure what their total sales are vs defective units, would be nice to get some communications from razer though.
I'm glad they got an update out after 5 days, shows they're working on it, but the update broke the sound and there's questions people have, all razer seems to do is say 'contact customer service'. Which isn't very cool when you're sitting there wondering wth is happening with the direction of it all.
Still love the phone though. Best specs of anything out there, sounds like just as many bugs as the pixel 2 or the iphone x too. heh
And it's a bonus to razer since this is their first and those companies have been doing it awhile.

bencozzy said:
Just changed out the charger for a leeco rapid charger it is rapid charging now looks like the wall charger they sent us are bad. That sucks time to call and complain. Also the USB cable is to thin to support rapid charging.
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I was on live chat yesterday, they said they will go through with the warranty team and try send me a new charger. They will probably just send out the same thing. The dash charge cable my oneplus 3t had was proper thick and that was charging at around 3000-4000mA on average till like 60%, then it would usually slow it down but that was a proper quick charge.
I connect this cable, it pushes to 3000mA for like 5 seconds and then goes back down to 1900mA. I think its either that the equipment they are using is just crap and not ready for quick charge or that they have large number of defective charging units.

Sad to be bumping this but I also have huge amount of noise coming from the charger, I have to say that 60% on standard phones is half or less of what 60% on the razer is, but yeah there is no difference for me from QuickCharge 3 and 4+, it's quite weird.
I'm going to go through and get a new charger, also the cable's lining is also ruined somehow, detached from one of the USB-C ends and as far as I can see seems to be protruding some alloy, most likely just some protection but it's really just what usually happens, also with mices from Razer.
Goodluck to everyone.

I'm using both the included one and my old nexus 6p one and both charge rapidly and pretty freaking fast too

I've come to a conclusion and still awaiting feedback from Razer aswell to confirm this, that either my phone is defective or Razer are claiming to have this phone equipped with QC 4+ but it really is not.
Qualcomm say:
When Quick Charge 4 was announced, it promised to bring even faster charging than its predecessor, allowing a device to go from empty to 50 percent in just 15 minutes.
The current Quick Charge 4 technology, announced in November of last year, promises five hours of charge in five minutes, a 20 percent improvement in charging speed and 30 percent improvement in efficiency than the previous Quick Charge system.
The company announced even more improved specs today: the Quick Charge 4+ system, which the company promises is up to three degrees cooler, up to 15 percent faster and 30 percent more efficient than Quick Charge 4.
So can anyone confirm that you are getting these numbers when charging your phone? No way near what Im getting. I've tested and compared the charge speed using Ampere App and could not see a single difference between QC 3.0 and 4+ on this phone. I've used the original wall adapter + usb c cable combinations as well as using a standard QC 3.0 wall adapter and a usb 3.1/3.0 cable.
The phone starts charging at around 3800mA upto 25% then reduces drastically to 1800mA and charges to full charge. Issue lies here because at 1800mA the phone is NOT quick charging. It charges quick upto 25%, very quick actually but after 25% it charges very slow. I know the fact that due to heat the phone will not charge at 3800mA throughout so would need to drop but this drop should not be at 25%. My oneplus 3T used to charge at around 3000-4000mA 60-70% then used to drop towards 1500mA-2500mA mark and would complete the charge at this rate. It was very quick, 0-70% was like in 30 minutes.
This is what I've got yesterday.
Started Charge @ 14:53 / 15% / 3800mA
14:57 / 21% / 42 mins untill full
15:01 / 26% / 44 mins untill full
Charge current decreased from 3800mA to 1800mA
15:06 / 30% / 50 mins untill full
15:10 / 34% / 51 mins untill full
15:15 / 39% / 49 mins untill full
15:21 / 46% / 45 mins untill full
15:27 / 51% / 42 mins untill full
15:41 / 64% / 33 mins untill full
16:02 / 80% / 20 mins untill full
16:16 / 91% / 10 mins untill full
16:30 / 96% / 5 mins untill full
16:38 / 98% / 3 mins untill full
16:45 / 100% / Charged
Took 108 minutes for full charge from 15%. This cant be right for sure? Can anyone confirm.
Note: I've had no apps running or anything in the background. Also note at 14:57 it said 42 minutes for full charge, 30 minutes later it was still saying 42 minutes for full charge

I think I'm going through the same thing. I'll charge and test it.

My experiences are similar to others. I am not using the box charger. I am using 2 types: Motorola TurboPower 30 USB-C, and the AUKEY 70W Charging station (Using the QC 3.0 port). I have no idea if its doing QC4+.. It just says "charging rapidly". I am using an app called AccuBattery pro. It is at 85%. See the attached picture for the metrics charging on the Motorola charger. The one thing I miss, which my Nexus 6 did without an app, it would tell me how much time until full.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1y46nBEN2ecXQFMXa6ruYsrZCLofMQhOL

alexaraz14 said:
I've come to a conclusion and still awaiting feedback from Razer aswell to confirm this, that either my phone is defective or Razer are claiming to have this phone equipped with QC 4+ but it really is not.
Qualcomm say:
When Quick Charge 4 was announced, it promised to bring even faster charging than its predecessor, allowing a device to go from empty to 50 percent in just 15 minutes.
The current Quick Charge 4 technology, announced in November of last year, promises five hours of charge in five minutes, a 20 percent improvement in charging speed and 30 percent improvement in efficiency than the previous Quick Charge system.
The company announced even more improved specs today: the Quick Charge 4+ system, which the company promises is up to three degrees cooler, up to 15 percent faster and 30 percent more efficient than Quick Charge 4.
So can anyone confirm that you are getting these numbers when charging your phone? No way near what Im getting. I've tested and compared the charge speed using Ampere App and could not see a single difference between QC 3.0 and 4+ on this phone. I've used the original wall adapter + usb c cable combinations as well as using a standard QC 3.0 wall adapter and a usb 3.1/3.0 cable.
The phone starts charging at around 3800mA upto 25% then reduces drastically to 1800mA and charges to full charge. Issue lies here because at 1800mA the phone is NOT quick charging. It charges quick upto 25%, very quick actually but after 25% it charges very slow. I know the fact that due to heat the phone will not charge at 3800mA throughout so would need to drop but this drop should not be at 25%. My oneplus 3T used to charge at around 3000-4000mA 60-70% then used to drop towards 1500mA-2500mA mark and would complete the charge at this rate. It was very quick, 0-70% was like in 30 minutes.
This is what I've got yesterday.
Started Charge @ 14:53 / 15% / 3800mA
14:57 / 21% / 42 mins untill full
15:01 / 26% / 44 mins untill full
Charge current decreased from 3800mA to 1800mA
15:06 / 30% / 50 mins untill full
15:10 / 34% / 51 mins untill full
15:15 / 39% / 49 mins untill full
15:21 / 46% / 45 mins untill full
15:27 / 51% / 42 mins untill full
15:41 / 64% / 33 mins untill full
16:02 / 80% / 20 mins untill full
16:16 / 91% / 10 mins untill full
16:30 / 96% / 5 mins untill full
16:38 / 98% / 3 mins untill full
16:45 / 100% / Charged
Took 108 minutes for full charge from 15%. This cant be right for sure? Can anyone confirm.
Note: I've had no apps running or anything in the background. Also note at 14:57 it said 42 minutes for full charge, 30 minutes later it was still saying 42 minutes for full charge
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I have the same exact issue

Can you guys all test your charge using the Ampere app and jot down the numbers like I have done. Make sure you put it on charge when the battery is below 25%. If everyone is getting the same numbers then the phone does not come with QC 4.0+ and/or it cannot handle heat properly hence it is only charging quick upto 25%. Or else, some of us have bad units.

alexaraz14 said:
Can you guys all test your charge using the Ampere app and jot down the numbers like I have done. Make sure you put it on charge when the battery is below 25%. If everyone is getting the same numbers then the phone does not come with QC 4.0+ and/or it cannot handle heat properly hence it is only charging quick upto 25%. Or else, some of us have bad units.
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Here you go:
@5% - 3930 - https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ppfiIwponwLtug8KlYOA5xXcrBdLkDx5
@15% - 3890 - https://drive.google.com/open?id=12b3DDS3jIWnGKXLUpSP3m_iMcoemwSLz
[email protected]% - https://drive.google.com/open?id=1pQRIpkOJ7AcHKqNBqfRqNO2g9ZrpKf3b
@25% - 1960 - https://drive.google.com/open?id=1R2w6FsdIWomRk6XWgitom513skUqrRIj
I'm experiencing the same behavior you are using the QC4+ Charger and cable that came with it.

I did get in touch with Razer and at first they were not willing to accept that there is a problem and they were insisting that the behaviour was normal. After forcing them to "explain" why it was normal, they could not really say anything so they gave up on it and now they are saying I could send the device in for them to check it. I also got the half screen freezing issue which I believe is a hardware problem (somewhere on this forum and Razer forum confirmed) so I have just put a RMA request and will be testing out the replacement device when I get it. If the replacement phone is no different and all you guys are getting the same numbers then like I said, I dont think Quick Charge 4+ is implemented to their devices and its just "false advertising". I cant think of anything else.

Had the same issue charging stops at 20%
but the problem is not constantly appearing

Well so far we have yet to see someone come and say Quick Charge on their phone works after 25%.

Bit of a misunderstanding
So first of all Qualcomm states up to 50% battery in 15 minutes, but that will only hold true if used on the smallest of smartphone batteries aka round or just bellow 2000mah.
So technically 1000mah in the first 15 mins which will be about %25 of the razer's 4000mah battery.
Razer is selling the chargers themselves on Amazon on the razer store and in the description they quote up to %50 battery in 40 minutes which in real life means 50 percent in ideal lab situations.
So your phone and charger are working correctly and at the maximum nowadays technology allows.
Just always remember with anything new that comes out with technology like when they touted the up to 4g speeds theoretical limit this and that etc hardly anyone if ever anyone will ever have the pleasure of experiencing the up to... that has been touted.
I hoped this helped and maybe clarified things for some people.

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So first of all Qualcomm states up to 50% battery in 15 minutes, but that will only hold true if used on the smallest of smartphone batteries aka round or just bellow 2000mah.
So technically 1000mah in the first 15 mins which will be about %25 of the razer's 4000mah battery.
Razer is selling the chargers themselves on Amazon on the razer store and in the description they quote up to %50 battery in 40 minutes which in real life means 50 percent in ideal lab situations.
So your phone and charger are working correctly and at the maximum nowadays technology allows.
Just always remember with anything new that comes out with technology like when they touted the up to 4g speeds theoretical limit this and that etc hardly anyone if ever anyone will ever have the pleasure of experiencing the up to... that has been touted.
I hoped this helped and maybe clarified things for some people.
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There is nothing to misunderstand here. The last phone I used had a 3400mAh battery and charged to 60% in 30 minutes. Razer has the extra 600mAh yes, maybe the charge technologies are not exactly the same yes agree on that too, but this does not mean that the 4000mAh Razer could only handle Quick Charge upto 25%. Whats the point of having the technology if the remaining 75% is going to be slow. Doesnt make any sense, Quick Charge 3.0 devices dont work like this so why should it be this way on this phone.
Took 108 minutes for full charge from when the phone was on 15%. Said 42 minutes for full charge. 30 minutes later it was still saying 42 minutes for full charge.
Im just not convinced that Quick Charge 4+ is working as it should on this phone. Either software or hardware related dont know but something is wrong. On this forum or the Razer forum cant exactly remember but some guys were saying how the provided usb c cable was not even a proper usb c cable and it was too thin. Just thinking maybe that might also be a reason or maybe not i dont know.

For a 3400 mah battery to charge to 60% in 30mins you would need more than 7amp charger .
I don't even know one if they exist.

Question S22 Base Charging Confusion / Poor Charge Speed

I have had my S22 base for about a week, and while I am still concerned with the life I'm getting (same apps and usage pattern, about 4+ hours of SOT and 15 hours of mixed use) vs the S9, I had decided to keep it until ...
I can't get the thing to super/fast charge. I do not have a Samsung charger (waiting until I get my voucher) but do have a number of 15W and 25W PD-compliant chargers that work on everything from my S9 to my laptop. Unless I turn the phone off, all of those chargers charge S22 at a rate of 10-20% per hour, with Accubattery readings in the 200-1100 maH range, NEVER a value over that. The battery temp and voltage are well in spec. It is currently plugged into my laptop PD compliant charger at a rate of 900 mA with a "time to 100%" of 30h.
Likewise, I bought 2 car chargers that are S21 certified as well as QC3.0 and PD3.0. It has a 30W port. I used the cable that came with either charger (I've tried a ton of cables) and sometimes it gives a "0mA" reading while other times it goes 200mA-800mA at a good voltage. That means while I don't lose charge, I also don't gain. On my 30 min drive home I went from 23% to 24% with dark mode and no apps running.
Finally, to extend the mystery, depending on which aftermarket charger I use the phone itself thinks I'm Fast Charging or Super Fast Charging, reporting that on the lock screen and battery screen. On that screen it says something like 30m to 100% even though the observed charge rate is much lower.
Samsung won't talk to me unless I'm using a Samsung charger and I can't wait until I get the voucher/those are in stock ... I have 5 days to return it and unless you can help me (Obi Wan) I'll be back on that track.

icewiz1 said:
I can't get the thing to super/fast charge. I do not have a Samsung charger
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I use my old 25W (original from N10+) charger and it takes about 1 hour to charge from 15-20% to full. I have the DevCheckPro app showing me at the start 17-18W and about 6-7Amps of charge load initially, at the beginning.