Is there any need for music mods like viper? - Razer Phone Questions & Answers

Just wandering if there is any need for mods like viper to enhance the music experience of this phone, considering it already has the dolby app? Or can viper and dolby play nicely together to make the phone even louder?

marvi0 said:
Just wandering if there is any need for mods like viper to enhance the music experience of this phone, considering it already has the dolby app? Or can viper and dolby play nicely together to make the phone even louder?
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I have used viper with dolby. Sometimes it does not work as expected but personally i found the dolby to be enough.
I used the magisk modules.

marvi0 said:
Just wandering if there is any need for mods like viper to enhance the music experience of this phone, considering it already has the dolby app? Or can viper and dolby play nicely together to make the phone even louder?
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For the speakers, no, dolby kicks ass there & I can't seem to match it with viper...
... Except I barely use the speakers as good as they are! I use my Bluetooth over ear headphones most of the tone and viper is king for that, works very well too (I use universal audio patch & viper magisk modules)

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Sound Quality on Nougat Based ROMs

Hi Everyone,
Is it just me or the sound quality after updating to Nougat has really gone down (that we need upgrades like A.R.I.S.E or Divine beats?). Earlier I noticed that we used to have a simple mod for any sound i.e. Viper4Android, which is still MOTHER OF ALL SOUND MODs for me .
I noticed that the audio playback is having VERY MUFFLED bass through my home theatre system over the same bluetooth connection while playing with MM ROM. I tried rolling back to MM and things work perfectly. I wish to stay on Nougat for obvious advantages of the newer UI, better battery & performance but would still like to see if anyone can port the lib from MM to N?
I don't essentially want to install ARISE or Divine Beats; for me Viper4Android is just fine and I would love if it works just the way it used to on MM.
PS: I bought my home theatre after tweaking Viper v2.5.0.5 on MM and the same is not working after updating to N.... any help is appreciated.
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yep i thought i was the only one
I use Beats Audio player & Audio Tuner from sound settings. On headphones sounds good.
Dupleshwar said:
yep i thought i was the only one
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True.
null0seven said:
I use Beats Audio player & Audio Tuner from sound settings. On headphones sounds good.
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The sound libraries have DEFINITELY changed in the system which are truly worse than Marshmallow!
I certainly need someone's help in getting them Ported back or else I have no other option other than rolling back to MM (since I spend 4-5 hrs/day on music). :crying:
anmolkakkar said:
True.
The sound libraries have DEFINITELY changed in the system which are truly worse than Marshmallow!
I certainly need someone's help in getting them Ported back or else I have no other option other than rolling back to MM (since I spend 4-5 hrs/day on music). :crying:
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Viper4Android and Divine beats/A.R.I.S.E are completely different. Divine beats and arise change your music first without you going into the app to change things. When I installed freedomOS with Divine beats, I notice my bass was extremely overpowered and everything just sounded like crap.... I really don't understand people's music choices sometimes. All these sound mods just make the phone sound like crap, especially since the OP3 already has a much warmer profile, meaning the bass and highs are very pronounced from the box
crzykiller said:
Viper4Android and Divine beats/A.R.I.S.E are completely different. Divine beats and arise change your music first without you going into the app to change things. When I installed freedomOS with Divine beats, I notice my bass was extremely overpowered and everything just sounded like crap.... I really don't understand people's music choices sometimes. All these sound mods just make the phone sound like crap, especially since the OP3 already has a much warmer profile, meaning the bass and highs are very pronounced from the box
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Exactly my point.
Even though the sound out of box was very good, using Viper4Android would take it to the next level. But Divine/A.R.I.S.E fiddle too much and extort the audio.
Marshmallow sound libraries were literally awesome and V4A on top of it would just make it mind blowing. Don't know how to get that same experience without going back from Nougat. :'(
anmolkakkar said:
Exactly my point.
Even though the sound out of box was very good, using Viper4Android would take it to the next level. But Divine/A.R.I.S.E fiddle too much and extort the audio.
Marshmallow sound libraries were literally awesome and V4A on top of it would just make it mind blowing. Don't know how to get that same experience without going back from Nougat. :'(
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Well you can install freedomOS without the Divine beats and what not, install Blu_spark kernel and set it to SElinux to permissive. Then you can install Viper4Android on its own and you'll have some nice audio.
crzykiller said:
Well you can install freedomOS without the Divine beats and what not, install Blu_spark kernel and set it to SElinux to permissive. Then you can install Viper4Android on its own and you'll have some nice audio.
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I'll try and see how it goes.
anmolkakkar said:
I'll try and see how it goes.
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I strongly recommend against this. Just install Magisk or use something that comes with Magisk preinstalled and install the Viper4Android from the Magisk repo / Magisk module. There is also one for Dolby Atmos. That way you don't have to mess with SELinux or modify system files.
Nah...Didn't go well.
Still the same sound quality. Muffled and garbled.
I have the EXACT same issue. I can't believe OnePlus went ahead and did this. Who do I tell?
I have great sound...experienceos + viper4arise with magisk. Install permissive script for magisk to avoid overheating issues. Dont tinker to much in viper . This is my speaker setting its loud and very clear. I love it.
humzaahmed155 said:
I have the EXACT same issue. I can't believe OnePlus went ahead and did this. Who do I tell?
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I completely understand....
v.konvict said:
I have great sound...experienceos + viper4arise with magisk. Install permissive script for magisk to avoid overheating issues. Dont tinker to much in viper . This is my speaker setting its loud and very clear. I love it.
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I beg to differ from your opinion here though.
After trying out 4 different Nougat based ROMs and 4 different Marshmallow based ROMs (yeah....took a lot of time with clean installation and stuff), I easily infer that OP3 Nougat ROMs have REALLY POOR sound libraries. Viper4Android alone works well with Marshmallow based ROMs (and using it with A.R.I.S.E/Divine Beats/etc. makes it even better) and bass doesn't distort at all (saved a few Viper Profiles and re-used them between ROMs). But the same profile in Viper on Nougat sounds just CRAP!!
Don't know what the solution here. Just wish there was some way to find out what is it that is causing this to happen? Which part of sound library or which file? Can anyone help?

Headphone Output Volume

Hi guys, recently I noticed that the headphone jack output isn't as loud it used to be in the OOS 3.X days.
For example, setting my OnePlus X aside and comparing the two, I would much rather prefer the louder, more aggressive tones it produces compared to the OP3.
Does anyone know what I could do to work around this? I have the bluspark kernel currently. I flashed francokernel to use gain control and was running into stability issues and bootloops before i could even get to it.
I'm currently on OB14 and my daily driver IEMs are the Xiaomi Hybrid Pro HDs.
Thanks.
Use ARISE Sound mod + V4A. These work great. Also these are included in popular roms like FreedomOS & ExperienceOS.
Hope this helps.
vjendra said:
Use ARISE Sound mod + V4A. These work great. Also these are included in popular roms like FreedomOS & ExperienceOS.
Hope this helps.
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I tried that, but it doesn't seem to make my audio any louder than it was before
humzaahmed155 said:
I tried that, but it doesn't seem to make my audio any louder than it was before
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Do one thing flash FreedomOS and in aroma select Arkamysa and Viper 2.5 (or whichever is latest), do not select anything else in Audio Mods. It will work for sure.
humzaahmed155 said:
I tried that, but it doesn't seem to make my audio any louder than it was before
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Get Viper4Android, do not get any audio mods that come with ROMs if you really do care about audio quality. All these different audio mods make music sound like absolute trash and remove a lot of clarity. Viper4Android doesn't change the sound if you don't want it too and you can go to the last option and boost the gain by I think 10db... That is plenty enough to bring it back to the loudness you like (probably way higher) while not deteriorating the sound much.

dolby??

Someone Succeeded to install:
dolby atmos?how u have link?
viper4android?how ?u have link?
AM3D Zirene® Sound?how?u have link?
thank you For everyone
These sound effect just make the voice become different instead of better
Ccchaos said:
These sound effect just make the voice become different instead of better
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You don't know what you're talking about. I installed Magisk Modules Viper4Android, Ainur Sauron, Audio Compatibility Patch, and Audio Modification Library to my P2XL. There is a tremendous difference in the sound quality, especially using headphones.
The sound is not only louder, but cleaner and with greater dynamic range. This is what equalizers like V4A do. Ainur Sauron uses modified sound libraries to further improve the sound, and the Audio Modification Library ensures Pandora, Spotify, and other similar apps use V4A and Ainur Sauron settings when outputting audio. The Compatibility Patch ensures they all work together.
I don't have Dolby Atmos on my P2XL, but with this setup I don't need it.
@oraned: Check the Magisk forum, though the downloads window in Magisk should have links for what you're looking for.
Note: I'm not going to comment the usage of sound processing for watching movies, because the entertainment concept is different from listening to music. Now, concerning music:
IMHO, music should be enjoyed with as little processing as possible, because when it was composed and recorded by the author he (she) wanted it to sound that way. The less bells&whistles added, the better.
Pixel 2XL has a decent native sound quality via the bundled usb-c adapter, and can also stream aptX (and aptXHD) via bluetooth.
It's much more important to have a good pair of headphones, avoiding putting lipstick on a pig.
That said, and because even good headphones have different tuning, you may want to choose a proper equalizer to slightly adjust the frequency bands and gain.
And let us not forget: when you want hi-fi quality music, you will want to use an hi-fi gadget on a quiet place
The phone will always be a "good enough" option, compared to it.
But it's so damn "good enough", that we tend to forget that
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
You don't know what you're talking about. I installed Magisk Modules Viper4Android, Ainur Sauron, Audio Compatibility Patch, and Audio Modification Library to my P2XL. There is a tremendous difference in the sound quality, especially using headphones.
The sound is not only louder, but cleaner and with greater dynamic range. This is what equalizers like V4A do. Ainur Sauron uses modified sound libraries to further improve the sound, and the Audio Modification Library ensures Pandora, Spotify, and other similar apps use V4A and Ainur Sauron settings when outputting audio. The Compatibility Patch ensures they all work together.
I don't have Dolby Atmos on my P2XL, but with this setup I don't need it.
@oraned: Check the Magisk forum, though the downloads window in Magisk should have links for what you're looking for.
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I was just about to install Ainur Sauron again since I was on Oreo. If you don't mind me asking, do you tweak the Ainur Sauron config at all or do you use the default? I'm thinking I'll use the v4a with the audiophile profile and Ainur Sauron default config. :good:
Thanks!
@felosisman: I use the Ainur Sauron defaults.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
You don't know what you're talking about. I installed Magisk Modules Viper4Android, Ainur Sauron, Audio Compatibility Patch, and Audio Modification Library to my P2XL. There is a tremendous difference in the sound quality, especially using headphones.
The sound is not only louder, but cleaner and with greater dynamic range. This is what equalizers like V4A do. Ainur Sauron uses modified sound libraries to further improve the sound, and the Audio Modification Library ensures Pandora, Spotify, and other similar apps use V4A and Ainur Sauron settings when outputting audio. The Compatibility Patch ensures they all work together.
I don't have Dolby Atmos on my P2XL, but with this setup I don't need it.
@oraned: Check the Magisk forum, though the downloads window in Magisk should have links for what you're looking for.
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How i use in Ainur Sauron?
oraned said:
How i use in Ainur Sauron?
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I don't understand the question. Simply install it.
arturiu said:
IMHO, music should be enjoyed with as little processing as possible, because when it was composed and recorded by the author he (she) wanted it to sound that way. The less bells&whistles added, the better.
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This statement would make sense if the artist had control over such things. They don't. It's a proven fact that the sound engineer is one who makes those decisions, and almost always at the behest of the record label, not the artist.
No artist worth their salt would want their music mastered in such a way that all sounds were equal in volume. Yet you repeatedly find music mastered this way. Equalization is essential to make such music sound tolerable, but admittedly it can only do so much.
Do a Google search for "Loudness War" and see just how record labels killed music.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
I don't understand the question. Simply install it.
This statement would make sense if the artist had control over such things. They don't. It's a proven fact that the sound engineer is one who makes those decisions, and almost always at the behest of the record label, not the artist.
No artist worth their salt would want their music mastered in such a way that all sounds were equal in volume. Yet you repeatedly find music mastered this way. Equalization is essential to make such music sound tolerable, but admittedly it can only do so much.
Do a Google search for "Loudness War" and see just how record labels killed music.
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Why I don't see Ainur Sauron app in my pixel 2 after I installed?
Hi, I have a pixel 2 and I would like to improve your speakers. How do I have to install Viper4Android?
@oraned: It's not an app, just a mod and thus doesn't appear in the app drawer. Note that if you install Ainur Sauron with V4A you must also install the audio compatibility patch or neither V4A nor Ainur Sauron will work.
@Galeonero: The easiest method is through Magisk. Just follow the prompts to install it.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
@oraned: It's not an app, just a mod and thus doesn't appear in the app drawer. Note that if you install Ainur Sauron with V4A you must also install the audio compatibility patch or neither V4A nor Ainur Sauron will work.
@Galeonero: The easiest method is through Magisk. Just follow the prompts to install it.
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I understand, you could pass me a Magisk link the truth that I have no idea of ​​root. A thousand apologies if I'm annoying
Galeonero said:
I understand, you could pass me a Magisk link the truth that I have no idea of ​​root. A thousand apologies if I'm annoying
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I could, but XDA has an entire forum devoted to Magisk. Very easy to find with the search bar at the top of the page at upper right, or even with a Google search.
As to how to root this device, there is an entire subforum devoted to tutorials for the P2XL. Read those tutorials in the Guides, News & Discussion subforum first before trying anything.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
@oraned: It's not an app, just a mod and thus doesn't appear in the app drawer. Note that if you install Ainur Sauron with V4A you must also install the audio compatibility patch or neither V4A nor Ainur Sauron will work.
@Galeonero: The easiest method is through Magisk. Just follow the prompts to install it.
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What you mean install the audio compatibility?
@oraned: It's self-explanatory. The modules will tell you what they need to work and your job is to install them. One of those things is an audio compatibility patch that allows multiple sound modules to work together.
Now, it's time for you to help yourself. If you need more details about a particular module, head to the Magisk forum and search. Most modules have dedicated threads providing more detail about what they do.

Sound MOD for Non-Rooted Device?

Hi fellows,
Is there any sound MOD app for non-rooted mi A2?
A real sound enhancement needs root, but you can try one of the quadrillions of equalizers in the Play Store.
The equalizer is just equalizer! no great sound enhancement, this is why I'm asking about MODs!
There are also Music Players with Equalizers inbuilt, but they're never so good like real Sound-Mods
Did you used previously JetAudio !? if not i recommend to try it and i'm pretty sure u will like it.
What about rooted devices?
For rooted devices I strongly suggest the Viper4Android Magisk module.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/module-viper4android-fx-2-5-0-5-t3577058
Thanks for your reply, i already use Viper4Android, it works very well, i wanted to know why dual speakers mod doesnt work on mi a2 lite.... Im still on Oreo because i dont feel like to change right now, since the phone performance are great and battery life is fantastic, and i used an app that makes the radio works (spirit 2) ... so Now oreo just fit my needs.
If you don't care about security patches, there is no need to switch to Pie.
A real sound enhancement doesn't need root, it needs just the right programming. Try the Noozxoide Eizo Rewire Pro. It's an old project here on XDA, works like a charm on non-rooted devices with absolutely all audio sources and individual output sinks. You can still find this app on the store, and I can confirm that it works like a charm on Mi A2 Lite.

Is it possible to delete/completely deactivate Dolby Atmos?

Hello, I bought the OP 7T a few months ago and since the first moment that I used my headphones with it I hated Dolby Atmos, it's not the first time that I have it and hate it, But now it's in my daily driver and I can't hear music anymore with it, it sounds extremely low in comparison with my previous phone (Xiaomi mi 6), so I want to delete or deactivate Dolby Atmos and be able to use the Android's stock Equalizer. I really need to find a way to do it or I'll start looking for another phone without it...
I was able to do it when connected to bluetooth but now when just on speaker. I've not tried on headphones. Is the option for None just not there when on headphones?
Man,
Dolby atmos is a beast. It’s my dream to use it since i used it in htc one long time ago. Howeveri Don't know whats your problem with sound(it never happened to me). Incase of increasing the sound you should use poweramp.Although It's paid but i have to say, it's Worth it for just a couple of bucks and use it lifetim.
flaystus said:
I was able to do it when connected to bluetooth but now when just on speaker. I've not tried on headphones. Is the option for None just not there when on headphones?
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It's there But i'm still not able to use the Android's stock Equalizer and the volumen in the headphones it's too low
Labonya97 said:
Man,
Dolby atmos is a beast. It’s my dream to use it since i used it in htc one long time ago. Howeveri Don't know whats your problem with sound(it never happened to me). Incase of increasing the sound you should use poweramp.Although It's paid but i have to say, it's Worth it for just a couple of bucks and use it lifetim.
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I've tried poweramp but it barely makes a difference, i'm not kidding when I say that the volumen it's not even the half of what it was with my other phone, and the headphones aren't the issue, but since I used Dolby Atmos in my Yogabook I noticed that the volume was lower in headphones and external speakers
I posted a guide how to permanently disable dolby atmos in here: LINK
After removing it, dolby atmos is still in device the settings but nothing will happen when you click it.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-7t/themes/dolby-atmos-equaliser-7t-hd1903-root-t4054999
Follow instructions and you will be able to use equalizer for Atmos,also with option to disable it of still not convinced
ej8989 said:
I posted a guide how to permanently disable dolby atmos in here: LINK
After removing it, dolby atmos is still in device the settings but nothing will happen when you click it.
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And doing that i'll ve able to use the Android's stock equalizer?
ej8989 said:
I posted a guide how to permanently disable dolby atmos in here: LINK
After removing it, dolby atmos is still in device the settings but nothing will happen when you click it.
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And what would be the code to enable it? In case I don't like the result
AdamAguir said:
And doing that i'll ve able to use the Android's stock equalizer?
And what would be the code to enable it? In case I don't like the result
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There's no android stock equalizer. We have Dolby. That's it. Read through that thread.
To re-enable:
Code:
adb shell pm enable com.oneplus.sound.tuner

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