Alternative launcher for P with recent overview support? - Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers

Like the title says. I am a big Nova fan, for the gestures and some of the tweaks (oh and definitely sesame), but since Android p I have to use the pixel launcher to be able to quickly go to apps and search from the overview screen. I haven't come across any other launcher that figured out how to do that too, but I would like some gesture support. Any ideas or findings?

Humpie said:
Like the title says. I am a big Nova fan, for the gestures and some of the tweaks (oh and definitely sesame), but since Android p I have to use the pixel launcher to be able to quickly go to apps and search from the overview screen. I haven't come across any other launcher that figured out how to do that too, but I would like some gesture support. Any ideas or findings?
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I'm pretty sure Nova will include these features once "P" is released officially

Phazonclash said:
I'm pretty sure Nova will include these features once "P" is released officially
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I know, they already said they will. But untill then? I did see some pixel launcher mods, but they didn't include gestures as far as I could see or the recents didn't work

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OnePlus gestures on Pixel 2XL

Hi guys,
Does anyone know whether there is a ROM available that implements navigation gestures like OxygenOS on the OnePlus? I am not talking about a few apps that allow you to configure gestures and hide the navbar., but a fluid implementation like on the OnePlus with proper animations / transitions
Cheers
EvertorN said:
Hi guys,
Does anyone know whether there is a ROM available that implements navigation gestures like OxygenOS on the OnePlus? I am not talking about a few apps that allow you to configure gestures and hide the navbar., but a fluid implementation like on the OnePlus with proper animations / transitions
Cheers
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You can get the gestures with apps but you can't get the animations since no one has that
Somebody would need to port the animations first which no one has done
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EvertorN said:
Hi guys,
Does anyone know whether there is a ROM available that implements navigation gestures like OxygenOS on the OnePlus? I am not talking about a few apps that allow you to configure gestures and hide the navbar., but a fluid implementation like on the OnePlus with proper animations / transitions
Cheers
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I know you posted this a while ago but I'm looking for something like this too. I have tried the gesture apps but it doesn't look complete because the animations don't really match. The only ROM that I've found that has a decent animation is COSP. watch at 35 seconds to see the app close animation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9laYATUFYQ
KHANrad_SIN said:
I know you posted this a while ago but I'm looking for something like this too. I have tried the gesture apps but it doesn't look complete because the animations don't really match. The only ROM that I've found that has a decent animation is COSP. watch at 35 seconds to see the app close animation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9laYATUFYQ
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That close animation is also in Lawnchair 2 launcher. you can find it HERE
Honestly I much prefer the gestures on Q to OP, swiping from the edge for back is imo better than swiping up from bottom left or right.
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matekaneve said:
That close animation is also in Lawnchair 2 launcher. you can find it HERE
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I just tried installing lawn chair but the close animation seems the same as the original animation, is there a setting somewhere?
Edit: Nevermind, realized I had to install the quickswitch magisk module.

Nova launcher

With the Pixel 3 and 3 XL forcing gesture navigation will regular button be available when using an alternate launcher like Nova?
airmaxx23 said:
With the Pixel 3 and 3 XL forcing gesture navigation will regular button be available when using an alternate launcher like Nova?
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I saw a video yesterday on YouTube that showed the option to revert back to the old button layout instead of using gestures. It was on a beta version of Pie but it’s very possible that they kept it in the final release.
Here’s a link to instructions to enable gestures if your on a phone such as the pixel 2 that received the Pie update. I assume turning the gestures off would work the same way.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/how-to-use-android-9-pie-gesture-navigation/amp/
I believe there are posts about gestures being the only form of navigation
I'm on Pie with my Pixel XL and can turn the gesture navigation on or off. I believe the Pixel 3 and 3 XL are forced to use gesture navigation and it can't be turned off.
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I'm on Pie with my Pixel XL and can turn the gesture navigation on or off. I believe the Pixel 3 and 3 XL are forced to use gesture navigation and it can't be turned off.
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Well that kind of sucks.
DarkPhoenix said:
Well that kind of sucks.
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If you don't like it/already use it
when it came in, I figured it was going to be the new way, so I used and learnt it. Now I can't go back -
Had a RMA on a Pixel OG XL and got a sony Z3 as a temp phone and it killed me
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If you don't like it/already use it
when it came in, I figured it was going to be the new way, so I used and learnt it. Now I can't go back -
Had a RMA on a Pixel OG XL and got a sony Z3 as a temp phone and it killed me
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All I’ve ever used is the old style, I’m sure I’ll get used to it though.
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All I’ve ever used is the old style, I’m sure I’ll get used to it though.
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I was the same initially, but I've been using the gesture nav on pie for a few months now and I can't go back. It's way better. Even used to the asymmetrical back button. Really wish I could decrease the height of it though.
Chronzy said:
I was the same initially, but I've been using the gesture nav on pie for a few months now and I can't go back. It's way better. Even used to the asymmetrical back button. Really wish I could decrease the height of it though.
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I don't mind using the nav bar but I just hope Nova Launcher or a custom ROM allows the switching of the back button to the right side of the home button.
just downloaded Hyperion Launcher on my 2xl.
It's interesting as it has features from several different launchers, including nova.
It's brand new and is a little buggy (very little so far) but I think I'm going to play with it for a day or 2.
I didn't purchase the pro version, which is expensive (sort of) at 3.99, but I might if it continues to interest me tomorrow.
As a previous Nova Launcher user for for a few years now, do you guys recommend I get used to Google's default launcher before using Nova again?
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As a previous Nova Launcher user for for a few years now, do you guys recommend I get used to Google's default launcher before using Nova again?
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I personally don't like the lack of options with the stock launcher. With my OG Pixel XL I recently turned on the gesture navigation and have been getting used to it while still using Nova Launcher.
bsg411 said:
I don't mind using the nav bar but I just hope Nova Launcher or a custom ROM allows the switching of the back button to the right side of the home button.
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If I understand you correctly, this is currently possible without root using custom navigation bar. Latest Pie, assume it should work on 3 XL as well, or at the least should be updated to do so shortly, the dev is excellent with updates.
uicnren said:
If I understand you correctly, this is currently possible without root using custom navigation bar. Latest Pie, assume it should work on 3 XL as well, or at the least should be updated to do so shortly, the dev is excellent with updates.
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Is custom navigation bar an app or a setting within nova launcher?
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Is custom navigation bar an app or a setting within nova launcher?
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It's an app.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=xyz.paphonb.systemuituner&hl=en_US
I kinda prefer the OnePlus gestures because you don't have to give up any space at all for navigation. It's ironic to me that all this effort is being expended on getting a little notched screen real estate when doing away with the nav bar area gives you the same amount of usable screen real estate without a notch covering a large chunk of what you just gained. I mean if you're going to have the horrid notch in the name of more screen real estate why not also grab the wasted space at the bottom of the screen while you're at it?
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I kinda prefer the OnePlus gestures because you don't have to give up any space at all for navigation. It's ironic to me that all this effort is being expended on getting a little notched screen real estate when doing away with the nav bar area gives you the same amount of usable screen real estate without a notch covering a large chunk of what you just gained. I mean if you're going to have the horrid notch in the name of more screen real estate why not also grab the wasted space at the bottom of the screen while you're at it?
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At a guess I'd say there are some design restraints that affect all Android devices. THAT may be one of them. Specifically, constraints to maintain interoperability between independent developers apps running on Android. Start messing with the navigation menu too much, there's no telling what you are going to break.
Of course, it being Google, maybe they have some idea of what they are going to break and chose not to maketh with the breaking...
Possible, I don't know enough about it to poke at the nuts and bolts of it. With OnePlus you can have it either way at that tap of a button, maybe it was a toggle? My understanding was you could do this with Pie also and just go back to the nav bar if you wanted up until this device. With OnePlus it didn't in any way affect the phone or apps that I have except the launcher. I've got the pay Action and Nova and both of those have gestures you can use which can conflict with the nav gestures. Action in fact put out a beta update that made it so a swipe up from the bottom opened the app drawer and that couldn't be changed which completely broke the OnePlus gestures which also swipe up from the bottom. Cred to those guys, I sent an email about it and it was fixed within a few days so that you could turn that off. Not sure how many sent such an email but it was nice to see the quick response regardless. I guess where I'm going is I can see how it could conflict with something, but it shouldn't be too much from what I've seen; nothing a developer worth his salt wouldn't sort out quickly.
Using stock launcher currently, as swipe right isn't working for me using Nova. Hoping this will be fixed soon.
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Using stock launcher currently, as swipe right isn't working for me using Nova. Hoping this will be fixed soon.
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Swipe right works for me on Nova Prime. Are you doing it along the nav bar?

Nova Launcher

As much as I want to use Nova Launcher, it's just not as smooth and quick as the stock Pixel Launcher. Anyone else feel this way? At the same time, I have a love/hate relationship with Pixel Launcher because I love having the icon unread notification numbers on Nova as well as being able to change the home screen grid size. In the end, though, Nova is just not as quick loading apps and the app drawer.
I agree Google isn't making it easy to use another launcher on Pixel phones. It's a shame.
Nova is definitely not as smooth as the Pixel launcher. But Nova has so many advantages for me that I'll take its options over overall smoothness any day.
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I agree Google isn't making it easy to use another launcher on Pixel phones. It's a shame.
Nova is definitely not as smooth as the Pixel launcher. But Nova has so many advantages for me that I'll take its options over overall smoothness any day.
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Same here.
U guys can use one plus launcher, one UI launcher and a custom pixel launcher as well with More customizations. There's a thread on telegram.
Action Launcher does pretty much everything Nova can do and it does everything stock pixel launcher does too. Including copying from recents screen and using Android 10 gestures.
Launchers can add the ability to work correctly on Pixels, Google opened up the ability for 3rd party launchers in December, Action Launcher is only one I know of that can do it without using quickstep or magisk.
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Action Launcher does pretty much everything Nova can do and it does everything stock pixel launcher does too. Including copying from recents screen and using Android 10 gestures.
Launchers can add the ability to work correctly on Pixels, Google opened up the ability for 3rd party launchers in December, Action Launcher is only one I know of that can do it without using quickstep.
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The ones I'm referring to don't require quickstep either, just flash in magisk
shooterlgk said:
The ones I'm referring to don't require quickstep either, just flash in magisk
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Action Launcher doesn't require magisk.
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Action Launcher doesn't require magisk.
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Fully aware, just providing more options
I keep seeing these threads where at least one person claims Nova doesn't work correctly. Last year, I would have agreed... but I've been using Nova for months and I have forgotten about any drawbacks if there are any. The only differences I remember are a couple animations and the recents menu doesn't have suggestion icons? (which never suggested apps I wanted to use, so I don't miss it)
What's the smoothness that people are complaining about? The animations run as fast as my finger pushes things around... Is it just the quality and type of animations? If so, I want functionality far over such things. Having to use substratum/magisk to customize the Pixel Launcher was way worse than recreating my layout in Nova. If only things like TeslaUnread were still officially supported... but Google likes killing off useful things.
Feel free to help me understand what I'm missing.
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I keep seeing these threads where at least one person claims Nova doesn't work correctly. Last year, I would have agreed... but I've been using Nova for months and I have forgotten about any drawbacks if there are any. The only differences I remember are a couple animations and the recents menu doesn't have suggestion icons? (which never suggested apps I wanted to use, so I don't miss it)
What's the smoothness that people are complaining about? The animations run as fast as my finger pushes things around... Is it just the quality and type of animations? If so, I want functionality far over such things. Having to use substratum/magisk to customize the Pixel Launcher was way worse than recreating my layout in Nova. If only things like TeslaUnread were still officially supported... but Google likes killing off useful things.
Feel free to help me understand what I'm missing.
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Nova says in the settings that Google has not made it possible for Nova to use Android 10 gestures correctly. Google has made it work, but Nova hasn't been updated to allow it yet.
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Nova says in the settings that Google has not made it possible for Nova to use Android 10 gestures correctly. Google has made it work, but Nova hasn't been updated to allow it yet.
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In my opinion, the warning is wrong. Back when I first got my phone, like half of the gestures didn't quite work. Now everything works for me.
At Nova's homescreen...
Swipe from side: Isn't triggered because you can't go back from home. Just flips pages.
Swipe from bottom: Opens app search. I'm not sure if the gesture is doing this or Nova is.
Swipe from bottom & hold: Opens recents.
Swipe from corner: Shows assistant overlay.
Everything basic works. I don't have palm swipe screenshots enabled.
My issue with Nova is the delay going back to the home screen. I can't immediately open another app. I always have to wait an extra second or click on app twice before it opens. I want the full pixel experience and it seems that Nova doesn't always deliver on it. I do occasionally go back to it until I get annoyed with my first statement.
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Honestly, I've never noticed this. I guess I go home before I know what I want to click on and so I'm never quick enough to see it.
The way it's acting, it reminds me of a paused activity that needs to refresh when the app gets restored. I tried to disable battery optimization for Nova, but it didn't help. I'm not sure how to solve that.
I tried the same test on my old phone and pressing the home button actually does nothing for a split second, then Nova shows and responds immediately. But when you gesture, you want it to happen immediately... not a split second later. So in that way, Android 10 and Nova do the sensible thing and shows the paused activity.
shooterlgk said:
U guys can use one plus launcher, one UI launcher and a custom pixel launcher as well with More customizations. There's a thread on telegram.
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Can you provide a link please?
I was using Nova Launche a lot of time ago! let's going to check how does it works now!
I have no reason to use any other launcher than pixel launcher. It works just as I need.
not sure what the hoo-blah is. I have been using Nova prime beta with no issues. No problems returning home... No speed issues. The warning that is in there is talking about the gesture navigation system wide not inside the launcher. So this means you have to use the classic 3 button method to navigate (back, home, recent). IMHO this does not affect the experience at all. Definitely prefer Nova and the customization over the stock launcher. :good:
Edit:Actually just changed the nav settings and Nova is working with new gestures.
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not sure what the hoo-blah is. I have been using Nova prime beta with no issues. No problems returning home... No speed issues. The warning that is in there is talking about the gesture navigation system wide not inside the launcher. So this means you have to use the classic 3 button method to navigate (back, home, recent). IMHO this does not affect the experience at all. Definitely prefer Nova and the customization over the stock launcher. :good:
Edit:Actually just changed the nav settings and Nova is working with new gestures.
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I just switched back to Nova from Lawnchair on both my S20+ and Pixel 4XL. Nova works beautiful now and Nova Google Companion works with dark mode.
I'm on Android 11 Beta and am running Nova with no problems with gestures at all. For some reason on 10 they were not working as smooth and I would get some lag going back to the home screen. On 11, those problems have seemed to disappear.
While that's true, the closing app animation is not there and feels weird. ( Using gesture navigation )

Question Recent app not working with 3rd party launcher.

I have tried various lauchers and all of them seem to have this same issue. When on home sceen I can't access recent apps with any 3rd party laucher. Is this a issue with my particular device? I am pretty sure it is no bug from the launcher as i have tried various launchers all of them have this same issue. Is there a fix for this as I don't like samsungs stock launcher.
Edit: The recent app window is working but has a delay of like 2seco ds
Anyone with the fix for this?
One UI is the best launcher to use on a Samsung.
What are the problems you have with it?
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One UI is the best launcher to use on a Samsung.
What are the problems you have with it?
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There is no problem with the launcher. I am used to vertical scrolling and stock like feel as i had a 6t. I want a similar experience here. One UI might be the best but point is I can't change is due to this recent app bug.
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There is no problem with the launcher. I am used to vertical scrolling and stock like feel as i had a 6t. I want a similar experience here. One UI might be the best but point is I can't change is due to this recent app bug.
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May need to wait for the 3rd party launchers to be updated.
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I have tried various lauchers and all of them seem to have this same issue. When on home sceen I can't access recent apps with any 3rd party laucher. Is this a issue with my particular device? I am pretty sure it is no bug from the launcher as i have tried various launchers all of them have this same issue. Is there a fix for this as I don't like samsungs stock launcher.
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I use Nova and Recent apps works. One thing I did notice was, if I debloat (i.e. disable) OneUI Home then recent apps dont work on Nova launcher.
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There is no problem with the launcher. I am used to vertical scrolling and stock like feel as i had a 6t. I want a similar experience here. One UI might be the best but point is I can't change is due to this recent app bug.
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For me, the recent apps are working and I'm on the stock OS One UI!
Nova launcher works for recent apps. But the gesture is not as fluid as it would be with the stock launcher. Try using good lock app and customize with one handed operation.
What do you mean by 'customize with one handed operation'? What does that have to do with the gesture?
Donnie Sins said:
What do you mean by 'customize with one handed operation'? What does that have to do with the gesture?
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That's what it does, uses swipe gestures from R/L sides to control multiple user selected functions including navigation and apps.
blackhawk said:
That's what it does, uses swipe gestures from R/L sides to control multiple user selected functions including navigation and apps.
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Thanks! Tried it since my message yesterday, and it works good.
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Thanks! Tried it since my message yesterday, and it works good.
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You're welcome. It's a great app especially suited to nest in the curve of the screen. The curved screen starts to make sense...
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You're welcome. It's a great app especially suited to nest in the curve of the screen. The curved screen starts to make sense...
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I have the S22 base model, but I understand what you mean.
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I have the S22 base model, but I understand what you mean.
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That might be for the better; the S22U screens seem to be breaking rather easily from short drops.
Unix_smit said:
There is no problem with the launcher. I am used to vertical scrolling and stock like feel as i had a 6t. I want a similar experience here. One UI might be the best but point is I can't change is due to this recent app bug.
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What launcher are you using? I'm using Microsoft Launcher and the Recent Apps function works fine.
Recent apps are working but there is a delay in opening the window on all 3rd party lauchers!

Question Task Bar with Nova Laucher

Does the task bar works with alternative launcher?
Thank you
That's a great question! As a Nova launcher user here for over a decade I'd love to know as well because the task bar looks to be great for multi tasking on this device. A game changer, TBH.
If not, this may be the first time since like the SII, I use an Android device without Nova. Time will tell, I guess.
Nova could be updated to co-exist, but I wouldn't hold my breath now as they were bought out.
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That's a great question! As a Nova launcher user here for over a decade I'd love to know as well because the task bar looks to be great for multi tasking on this device. A game changer, TBH.
If not, this may be the first time since like the SII, I use an Android device without Nova. Time will tell, I guess.
Nova could be updated to co-exist, but I wouldn't hold my breath now as they were bought out.
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The taskbar is really a game changer! Got the phone friday, and I use the taskbar far more than I thought I would.
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The taskbar is really a game changer! Got the phone friday, and I use the taskbar far more than I thought I would.
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Can you please install Nova Laucher and tell us if the task bar is working?
Thank you very much in advance
Fold 3 user here awaiting my Fold 4 this week. Have the same question as I use Nova on my F3. I'm sure I'd miss the Nova features if I fall back to stock launcher (starting with custom icons per app).
The F3 has a dock that can sit pinned along the right hand side of the screen (which I never use) which works with Nova -- I'm hoping the new 12L inspired bottom dock works the same way (e.g. launcher independent).
I friend confirm that it works!
it works but it take the icons from the touchwiz and they do not appear and disappear, they are always fixed, I will try tomorrow with mine
Let us know how it goes. Another user on Reddit said there bar was never there with the Niagra launcher.
Unfortunately the task bar works very badly with Nova
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Unfortunately the task bar works very badly with Nova
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Yeah, I found out that as well. It was rather buggy. So for now, I have stopped to use the taskbar feature.
Because i'm not giving up Nova Launcher for the taskbar feature .
Doesn't work at all on mine, the Task bar switch is disabled if not using the Samsung home.
It seems to be associated with the launcher set as default - it it isn't Samsung One UI Home - the taskbar doesn't show.
I'm using Lightning Launcher - and this is the behavior - so not per se associated with Nova.
Anyhow - I'm experimenting with it now - what I've settled on doing - as I'd like to use the taskbar - is:
- leave One UI set as default home
- write a script in Tasker to switch to Lightning Launcher immediately once the One UI home is activated
Alternatively - maybe we could find a remapper for the home-software-button press - which would switch to a desired app instead of bringing you to One UI. This might work.
I'll be investigating it. If anyone knows of a remapper along the lines mentioned above - please hint. Maybe this would be the easiest way...
So it works with Tasker - if you create a Profile - select the OneUI Home activity there and choose to open the desired launcher - it's allright.
Most of the time then - when you press home, the OneUI home will flash briefly before Tasker switches it to - in my case Lightning Launcher. But it's bearable.
So in principle, Lightning is my home launcher now - via the above workaround, and the taskbar works with all the apps etc. - that's nice. :O)
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So it works with Tasker - if you create a Profile - select the OneUI Home activity there and choose to open the desired launcher - it's allright.
Most of the time then - when you press home, the OneUI home will flash briefly before Tasker switches it to - in my case Lightning Launcher. But it's bearable.
So in principle, Lightning is my home launcher now - via the above workaround, and the taskbar works with all the apps etc. - that's nice. :O)
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I'll guess this is not possible to do with 'Bixby Routines' or 'MacroDroid' ?
Tom-Helge said:
I'll guess this is not possible to do with 'Bixby Routines' or 'MacroDroid' ?
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Don't know - I use Tasker.
I've set up my ZF4 with stock launcher. Very challenging to erase all the muscle memory of 10 years of Nova just for the Taskbar...grrr
I use Edge for multitasking on my Note 20. Just dragging an app gives me two screens. Same as on my tab6
Does Edge still exist on the z 4?
mickliq said:
I've set up my ZF4 with stock launcher. Very challenging to erase all the muscle memory of 10 years of Nova just for the Taskbar...grrr
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All that swiping that I learned Nova on my Note 20. Will not change that for the taskbar, I think.
However... I never played longer than 1 minute with Folds
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I use Edge for multitasking on my Note 20. Just dragging an app gives me two screens. Same as on my tab6
Does Edge still exist on the z 4?
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Yes!
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Yes!
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Great. If (if) i buy a Fold 4 I can do multitasking with Nova.

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