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[Q] It's time for me to buy a new phone

Hey guys.
After so many years I've been with Samsung, it's time to leave them, I really can't stand my Note 3 any more guys (I'm still on 4.4.2 Android)
I was looking for a new phone and I found this device which looks amazing, with excellent specification, good camera, battery life, and clean OS without any crap or anything and the best thing is the price! only 622.39$ for 128GB damn son!
So I decided I'd buy the phone soon but first I have questions I'd love you to help me with
1. How many screen hours do you have? (heavy/basic use)
2. How is the camera? (Rear and front camera) also, I've seen some good reviews about her on youtube but I saw in the official forum of the device bad reviews about her after the last update 5.0.4. how bad is it? ( I don't care about 4K.. just 1080p)
3. things that I should do after I get the phone? better rom or something?
4. is there any bad thing that I should know?
5. Do you recommend the device? If yes/no, explain why
Thank you and please don't tell me to wait for 1+ 6
(I really hate my note 3 guys.. can't stand it anymore)

I had the Galaxy S7 for awhile. I was a Samsung fanboy back in the captivate to S3 days, back when bootloaders were unlocked. With my S3, I was always flashing ROMs that were closer to stock Android. Samsung's flagship phones are beasts, but Samsung's stock ROM just kneecaps the hardware (there truly is no reason for lag when I'm light use). Then the 2013 Moto X came out. No longer was I compelled to flash a ROM that was close to stock, I already had a phone close to stock. Not to mention the extras Motorola (before Lenovo) added to the Moto X made the user experience much more immersive, and did it well. Long story short, Lenovo **** the bed with the 3rd gen Moto X, I couldn't live with an LCD screen, and went back to Samsung soley for the screen. I was then fixed into the horror that is TouchWiz (I don't care what Samsung calls it these days). The OnePlus 5T has brought back, for me, those days with my first Moto X. Sure, it doesn't fit in the hand like the Moto X, but it's curved edges aren't uncomfortable. The screen is just enough. I never notice a difference in sharpness between my S7 and 5T unless I'm trying. I do miss the camera from the S7. Though, with a reasonable amount of effort, this phone can produce wonderful pictures.
That is all.

beefgoat said:
I had the Galaxy S7 for awhile. I was a Samsung fanboy back in the captivate to S3 days, back when bootloaders were unlocked. With my S3, I was always flashing ROMs that were closer to stock Android. Samsung's flagship phones are beasts, but Samsung's stock ROM just kneecaps the hardware (there truly is no reason for lag when I'm light use). Then the 2013 Moto X came out. No longer was I compelled to flash a ROM that was close to stock, I already had a phone close to stock. Not to mention the extras Motorola (before Lenovo) added to the Moto X made the user experience much more immersive, and did it well. Long story short, Lenovo **** the bed with the 3rd gen Moto X, I couldn't live with an LCD screen, and went back to Samsung soley for the screen. I was then fixed into the horror that is TouchWiz (I don't care what Samsung calls it these days). The OnePlus 5T has brought back, for me, those days with my first Moto X. Sure, it doesn't fit in the hand like the Moto X, but it's curved edges aren't uncomfortable. The screen is just enough. I never notice a difference in sharpness between my S7 and 5T unless I'm trying. I do miss the camera from the S7. Though, with a reasonable amount of effort, this phone can produce wonderful pictures.
That is all.
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SGS3 was my first smartphone and I love it but hate so much the bootloaders + TouchWiz, I flash so many roms and stuff
Then I bought the Note 3, damn the phone was so good in the first few months and I flashed one room and delete almost every samsung bootloaders or cancer ****, the phone went from bike to airplane. but.. still had lags and problems like I wrote
and now I'm want to leave Samsung for good and go to oneplus

The screen is still a big thing for me. After nearly a decade of staring at an OLED display, LCD displays simply don't cut it.

Being a Samsung Galaxy S8 user in the past, now using OP5T. I can say that the battery life is incredible. With moderate usage im getting 7.5hrs of screen on time. Yes i must say that moderate usage meaning normal day to day usage with no or very little gaming.
Coming to screen quality its superb. The sharpness and the color reproduction is fantastic. Talking about the camera, im not satisfied firstly because of the fact that the front camera doesnt have portrait mode. Second the rear camera takes shaky or blurry images in moderate lighting condition. In daylight, it will give you awesome photos but when you come to indoor situation, it will tend to produce noise and also the camera produces blurred shots. Lack of filters and some basic options in the camera app.
The UI is super fast. After using this device, you will feel like every other android phone is damn slow. Its so fast.
Now talking about whether you should buy or not. Yes you should buy as this is one hell of a beast in every aspect except the camera. But only buy the 8gb variant if you want 128gb internals not because of the extra ram as the 2gb extra ram doesnt make any difference in performance. Hope i answered all of your questions.

I also shifted to the 5t from Samsung. The phone is good, leaving the camera ofcourse. But there are many flaws which I am finding these days like Samsung Health doesn't work in this phone(you can ignore this point if you didn't use it), wifi hotspot stops when you use the call, getting wideline l1 is a mess as the service centres don't know a thing about it, accepting the call downwards still a mess for me(you can ignore this point too). The screen is good but not as good as Samsung ofcourse. Considering the 6 will have a notch and they will launch a 6t few months later, get a s8+ in the same price. It will have a slot for the memory card too, better camera, better screen, water & dust resistant. Cheers.

I'm coming from a Samsung S4 that replaced a Samsung S2, and I'm very happy that I did.
This was the best battery and performing Smartphone that I have.
I'm experiencing with very heavy usage like lots of hours watching YouTube videos I have 9 to 10 hours of screen on time, for more light usage never less than 7 Hours screen on time.
The camera is it weakness, but it's not that bad at all.

A70 or S10+??

Hi,
I wanted to buy s10+ but then i saw A70 on the internet, I just liked and thought that I will be okay for me. I mostly use Instagram, whatsapp, music, youtube (sometimes). what I want is it to last long. and just want my phone to be fast. also I am not a big fan of smart phone camera. So what you think. Will A70 be worth buying with my usage for around 2 years.
Thanks

My cons and pros.
Pros:
Excellent non-edge screen while still having minor bezels.
Superb battery life.
Fast daily usage.
Cons:
Poor nighttime camera.
Bottom firing speaker is weak and tinny sounding.
Like most in-screen fingerprint readers it is a bit slow to unlock.

Only con for me is Finger Print scanner
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Camera quality is not that good. Missing lot of options mainly stabilization etc..
Sound is week. Speaker volume should be 85% or more to listen clearly and only one speaker which is at bottom.
doesn't play 4k video only 1080 60fps. (may be because of mid range phone)
one ui is like for kids.
check for other options also instead of spending huge amount on s10+ as well.

naurez_aasi said:
Hi,
I wanted to buy s10+ but then i saw A70 on the internet, I just liked and thought that I will be okay for me. I mostly use Instagram, whatsapp, music, youtube (sometimes). what I want is it to last long. and just want my phone to be fast. also I am not a big fan of smart phone camera. So what you think. Will A70 be worth buying with my usage for around 2 years.
Thanks
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Since you don't care much for the camera, save yourself several hundreds of bucks and go for the A70: bigger screen, bigger battery. At least, that's what I go for if I was in your shoes.

Should be fine
naurez_aasi said:
Hi,
I wanted to buy s10+ but then i saw A70 on the internet, I just liked and thought that I will be okay for me. I mostly use Instagram, whatsapp, music, youtube (sometimes). what I want is it to last long. and just want my phone to be fast. also I am not a big fan of smart phone camera. So what you think. Will A70 be worth buying with my usage for around 2 years.
Thanks
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I recently purchased the A70 n its a good phone. Hasn't lagged at all n is snappy too.
Just like u i use my phone primarily for social media consumption. The battery's great. I do play some games on it like gods of rome, asphalt 8 n they haven't lagged at all. Can't say anything about camera quality cause i dont take photos n simply put i just don't have any interestin details n stuff. If i can make out the objects in the photo then that's all i need from the phone. So according to me the phone is great. I would recommend buying it. If all u do is social media then s10 is an overkill n a waste of money.

naurez_aasi said:
Hi,
I wanted to buy s10+ but then i saw A70 on the internet, I just liked and thought that I will be okay for me. I mostly use Instagram, whatsapp, music, youtube (sometimes). what I want is it to last long. and just want my phone to be fast. also I am not a big fan of smart phone camera. So what you think. Will A70 be worth buying with my usage for around 2 years.
Thanks
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I you don't care that much about camera quality you can't go wrong with A70 considering the huge difference in price.

Toyota Or Lexus?
IMO.. The Answer Is Simple..
If you can afford to get the S10+.. That's what you purchase.
The A70 is a Good Phone.
The S10 / S10+ is a "Flagship Phone"
It will get the Major Updates Faster and Longer from Samsung.
It will get FAR MORE Developer Support over the long haul from Some of the Elite-Recognized-Developers here on XDA.
It will have Greater Resale Value.. AND Trade-In Value over the next 2 years if you choose to upgrade.
The Exynos 9820 ( if that is what's available to you in your region ) is not quite on par with the Snapdragon 855.. but it's still going to have the ability to play more graphic intensive games, run HDR-10+ etc.. as we move into the 2020's.. you'll be glad you have that extra horsepower to handle not just today's entertainment.. but tomorrows entertainment as well.
You can find video comparisons of the A70 vs S10+ and Exynos 9820 vs Snapdragon 855 on youtube.
If you are counting your pennies.. A70
If you want the best.. S10 / S10+ OR.. The Incredible OnePlus 7 Pro.. Which will get TREMENDOUS Developer support.
Never Be Afraid To Buy The Best.. In The End.. It Will Give You The Most Satisfaction..

ssurampu said:
Camera quality is not that good. Missing lot of options mainly stabilization etc..
Sound is week. Speaker volume should be 85% or more to listen clearly and only one speaker which is at bottom.
doesn't play 4k video only 1080 60fps. (may be because of mid range phone)
one ui is like for kids.
check for other options also instead of spending huge amount on s10+ as well.
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Can you give me other options?

naurez_aasi said:
Can you give me other options?
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Get the Huawei Mate 20X. It's a beast

Yes mate 20x, I waited so long for that but still not available in Pakistan.
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I;d get the OnePlus 7 Pro if I wanted to spend that much but I don't see the need. The A70 does what I need for much less.

Nizamani said:
Yes mate 20x, I waited so long for that but still not available in Pakistan.
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Can you tell me hows your A70 going. I heard there are issues with touch.

I don't have touch issues but touch screen is so sensitive, I can use my a70 with headphones wire , also bezels are so small that you unintentionally touch screen with palm of hand , I don't have any ghost touches.
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Is the A70 worth it?

It seems that this phone has a lot of issues and problems that are constantly being ignored or not cared about by Samsung.
Is this phone worth it, or am I better off selling it and buying an A50 which seems to have the attention of Samsung? Because The A50 has gotten so many updates compared to the A70 that is still on Security patch level: May.

I've had an A70 for about a month now and it's one of the best phones I've ever had. Battery averages at two days, screen is bright and always legible in bright sunlight, phone is fast and smooth. Fingerprint unlock used to be crap but updates have made it work ok. Face recognition is good. Camera is pretty good - again it's improving with updates.
I think it's the best phone for the price.

I'm really happy with mine but yeah the fingerprint reader isn't the best but it's still a great phone

Have not had any problem with this phone. To be honest, worth every Penny I paid for it.

At the moment I don't have one as my contract is due for an upgrade in October. But I as usual I have been doing research about this device and I must say the pro out weighs the cons by a mile. All the you tube reviews from unboxing to month on reviews are all positive. I am even overlooking the A80 as the A70 offers so much more for my money. Stick to your phone bud. You are in the teething phase now

I have been using a V30 and S8+ for the last year (1 was a personal device and the other as work phone). Performance on both phones was identical, with the key differences being the camera (better on the v30) and the ergonomics (v30 won this as well). Most recently I purchased the A70 and have been using it as my daily driver for the last 2 weeks or so. I have the A70 setup exactly the same way as both the V30/S8+. Same apps, settings, etc. I can say from a performance point of view, I have not missed the V30/S8+ at all. The A70 runs the same apps without any noticeable performance difference. I am not a huge gamer but there are a few that are always installed on my phones.. and they run the exact same on the A70, as they did on the S8+/V30. I haven't seen a difference in load times, or graphics and performance has been the same. Camera quality is pretty good. I thought Id miss the wide angle from the V30 but the A70 has it as well. Front camera on the A70 is much better than both the S8 and the nearly useless front cam on the v30. Battery life is fantastic. I get 2 days usage from the A70, whereas the S8+ gave me 1 day. Audio quality to my ears is the same. That is a lot considering the A70 runs on the SD675 and the V30/S8+ on the SD 835. The display is crisp and what you expect from a samoled. I would say yes, the phone is def worth it. Removable storage, huge battery, fantastic 1080p display, BT 5.0. and great performance. This phone has met all my expectations.. and I am glad I bought this rather than an s10+ which is more than double the cost of this phone.

Hello,
As Stillriza I used a S8+ (for 2 years). I now have the A70 since 1.5 months. The fingerprint unlock is good since last software update (when it is difficult I honestly have an explication such as finger is just coming out of water, long pressure on the finger...).
The 32Mp camera is good outside by day but the quality decreases when the light is decreasing (much worse than the camera of the S8+).
I haven't notice any slowdons on apps compared to S8+.
The screen has a lower resolution than the S8+ one but bigger. It is really not visible and it is very good and effective in the sun.
I will keep this "pocket computer" for a long time. I think it really worth its price.
For that price

i owned the phone before, if you want my advice: forget samsung and go for xiaomi mi 9t (redmi k20) as i did, you will not regret it.

Yes i'm totally happy with my a70, not a perfect device but exceeded my expectations by miles
I will list cons only here:
1-white colour has a tint to it, but no problem may be the amoled nature or my calibration
2-prefer stock android, but one ui is so good
3-no twrp or easy root and custom roms yet, but i will wait
4-no stereo speakers, but the included speaker is loud enough
other than than all are pros not cons

I like it. it's not perfect but it has better native apps than most phones I've owned.
fingerprint sensor is nearly impossible to get to work
but the phone has a night mode for its settings. has a great onboard keyboard. it has its own app store, theme store.
File explorer is very usable. I'm off 3rd party apps for the most part.
The music app is super fast to load the artworks. Sees most artworks. takes 48 hours but indexed my 300GB music and loads entire list (all have artworks) in real time. Really imperfect but very fast, great music app by Samsung.
Then there is the RAM Memory optimizer under settings; device care; then memory button. On other phones I have had lately, this can take a long time. Have to go in apps in settings and do each one individually.

My phone gets 1 bar of signal strength less than my other phones but despite that I love this phone.
Fingerprint reader performance is livable. (A sweaty thumb on glossy glass is prone to cause difficulties with finger print reading, even on Iphones. So I can deal with it. - Try storing fingerprint data with a wet finger? Seems to have helped.)
The camera with the G-cam app is very good, and even so I still find myself using the Samsung camera app more often for its features and the polish of the app. - The panoramic shot is a full 360 degrees and better than my Iphone7. I like the hyperlapse and slowmotion. HOwever, this phone is definitely not a camera phone and won't take steady videos.
The native file explorer app and video player app are great.
The 20:9 aspect ratio is perfect for phones. You get so much usable real estate and yet a slimmer form factor that is much more practical for one handed use and for keeping in your pockets.
I love the ONE UI interface. I have it navigation bar set to invisble and I'm using gestures.
Compared to my previous phone it's thinner as well and feels great. It does not feel like a cheap phone at all. It feels solid and well produced.
I have the one in white. Paid $370 for it.

I got the samsung a70. I like the phone's 6.7 inch display. But the aspect ratio makes it a bit narrow. That's why I'm thinking about getting the huawei mate 20x which has a 7.2 inch screen. Do you think I should stay with this phone or buy the mate 20x?

kruc Ire said:
fingerprint sensor is nearly impossible to get to work.
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Register 3 fingerprints of the same finger and it'll work seamlessly.

ok. I may try that. I have already but for some reason I deleted the first two or three, hoping one clear one.
Hey look at this RAM management screenshot. Whisked away Youtube's 150MB mess and a bunch of others.

Which one shuld i buy?
alsartawi said:
i owned the phone before, if you want my advice: forget samsung and go for xiaomi mi 9t (redmi k20) as i did, you will not regret it.
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I am dueling between the A70 and the Mi9T, what made you change and how has been your experience with Mi 9T compared to the A70?

dieqohc said:
I am dueling between the A70 and the Mi9T, what made you change and how has been your experience with Mi 9T compared to the A70?
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the only thing better in a70 is the battery and a little bit the screen colors "but with ugly notch"... as for performance, camera..etc the mi9t is a superb phone.

alsartawi said:
the only thing better in a70 is the battery and a little bit the screen colors "but with ugly notch"... as for performance, camera..etc the mi9t is a superb phone.
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Seems like the Mi9T doesn't have an SD slot?

I have my A70 for a good amount of time to speak about it.
I really like the device. It's fast, reliable and it was a surprise to me that it can hold two sim cards and a microSD card at first. I remember that I was astornished by it's beautiful, shiny back, but that's a personal prefference. I only found 3 problems with this phone that gladly doesn't bother me that much.
Starting with the back, it's really, REALLY easy to scratch it. Mine, even if it was in the case, have some scuffs on the back. It's plastic, not as much resistable as the glass is, but I was aware of that when I was buying it. Kinda shame.
Secondly, the bezels are very small and I have big hands so sometinmes I touch the screen when I don't want to or being aware of. A bigger case like one of those armor cases should fix my issue, but that adds to the size of the phone which, I am not sure if I want right now.
Lastly, the cursed fingerprint scanner. It doesn't work all the times, but the updates seems to give it a bit of speed and accuracy, failed attempts to read out the fingerprint significantly decreases.
Overall. I think the phone is worth the money but again, that's my perspective.

Awangarde said:
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Overall. I think the phone is worth the money but again, that's my perspective.
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I own the a70. But I'm thinking of switching to the huawei mate 20x which has a 7.2 inch screen. Do you think its worth buying the mate 20x and selling the a70 for half an inch inch difference in screen size?
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3 months since I bought this awesome phone. I have no regrets. Biggest pros are 2 sim + sd card simultaneously and the huge 4500 mah battery

Overall love

Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the Samsung Galaxy S11, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the Samsung Galaxy S11 is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

I love my S20U no matter what they said.
The only things that still bother me to this day are the price, the focusing issue in low-light (with the telephoto sensor and with the main camera, shooting closely to the object), the lack of 90 hz option, the palm rejection feature, and the dull colour options.

I love my S20 Plus 5G. Coming from S8 Plus, s20 is a logical "evolution". Pretty similar but better in many small things.

Coming from a S9+ I feel that the S20 Ultra is not worth the asking price.
The camera might be better on paper but picture quality (panoramas in particular) and perception of performance (Chrome tends to hang for a few seconds every now and then) are a downgrade.
The big screen is nice and having an optical zoom is a decent add-on as well, but these aren't features unique to this phone.
When taking into account that this is the very high end offering of Samsung, I am left to wonder whether I should have skipped this year's phones.

Camera software needs sorting to sharpen pictures but otherwise a great phone

Had the phone for about a month and I absolutely love everything about my S20 ultra except for focus on the main lens.

The phone camera is horrible. My 7 year old phone takes better pictures. I have not seen an update that improves the quality. Unfortunately, it degrades the phone to the level of a 10 year old phone or possibly the level of the first phone that came out with a camera, however many years ago was that. I bought it for the memory and additional application processing capacity but little did I know it does not come with a camera, the one installed is worthless.

What about the S20 Plus? I read Ultra was the one to have focus issues.

It absolutely does and it is useless as a camera.

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It absolutely does and it is useless as a camera.
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But the S20+ is good right?

Droid9684 said:
But the S20+ is good right?
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Focus issues were with the ultra; my s20+ has perfect focus and takes great pics.

Before the A12 OneUI 4 update, I actually hated this phone because of the barrage of issues I had with it on A11, especially battery life and camera performance. Now with A12, I like this phone more than I did when I initially bought it. I like watching movies on my phone, and A12 added a new feature where you can watch AV1 encoded videos, which is really nice! Overall, this phone is great besides battery life if you're a heavy user.

S20U have big software problem?

Hi to all
I watch so many YT videos about camera comparison and see so many bad things about S20U camera. Is that because still camera software in beta or it is just what S20U is?
I watch S20U vs:
- Note 10 Plus,
- Huawei P40 Pro,
- Xiaomo Mi10,
- Iphone 11 Pro
And yes S20U have new big camera sensor but still they are no big improvements in night shoot's, astophotography, zoom, night videos, portret and etc.. And every phone have better camera in most situation. Whats wrong with S20U? Will Samsung fix this with software updates?
All the best

Not quite sure how you think most phones have a better camera but from someone who ACTUALLY has an S20U I can tell you this camera is fantastic. And with every update will continue to get better and better.
Feel free to not purchase it though. It isn't for everyone.

FinalBossJay said:
Not quite sure how you think most phones have a better camera but from someone who ACTUALLY has an S20U I can tell you this camera is fantastic. And with every update will continue to get better and better.
Feel free to not purchase it though. It isn't for everyone.
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Come on now. You know that's not exactly true. This phone has pretty serious camera issues, from poor optics to focus problems, etc. It's not a terrible camera, but it is not worth the price tag. Samsung has to do a lot more work on the software side to make it better. I've had the phone since launch and while updates did improve things, it still falls short compared to other flagships. Both iPhone 11 Pro and Pixel 4 take better photos (I have those phones too), as does Note 10+ in most cases (I have it too for comparison). With that said, it is possible to take good photos with the S20 Ultra, so it's not all bad.

If anyone bought the Ultra Solely for the camera then that was Dumbassville! Other than the camera however The 120hz screen rocks, 5g works good depending on your coverage area. It's also a speedy phone. At least my US Unlocked 512gb version is. But if your buying the phone expecting a mobile photography studio like Samsung is hyping in their ads you can forget that BS now because that's what it is. Just plain BS! That is not to say the cameras can't take good pictures or the software won't get better. It just means if your expecting a DSLR or Wonder Miracle camera on a phone it ain't happening. There is a reason those $10,000 DSLR lenses take great night time photos and cost so much. You will never achieve that quality on a phone camera.

I'm one of the few people who buys phone not for the camera but making receiving calls, YouTube media consumption social networking camera is bottom of the list.
I think the camera and video is brilliant and better then most flagship. Its good for an average consumer use for expert photographers not to sure as don't know enough. The good thing is most of us aren't experts.
I prefer the s20 plus as its slimmer and has less protruding camera. Its better buy then huawei as g services are missing and better software and screen. Better then oppo due to mainly software and less curved screen. Oppo could have been my choice were it not for the curved screen. I hate that, most overrated and wasted tech.
Thats my rant and impression of Samsung s20.

Paul_Deemer said:
If anyone bought the Ultra Solely for the camera then that was Dumbassville!
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That would make more sense than paying 17% more for a 6% larger screen. The battery is also 11% larger, but the plus is also lighter and thinner, especially at the camera bump. The cameras are the most significant difference between the two, it would only make sense for that to be the main motivating factor in paying the premium (especially considering the plus is tending to get marked down more).

Paul_Deemer said:
If anyone bought the Ultra Solely for the camera then that was Dumbassville! Other than the camera however The 120hz screen rocks, 5g works good depending on your coverage area. It's also a speedy phone. At least my US Unlocked 512gb version is. But if your buying the phone expecting a mobile photography studio like Samsung is hyping in their ads you can forget that BS now because that's what it is. Just plain BS! That is not to say the cameras can't take good pictures or the software won't get better. It just means if your expecting a DSLR or Wonder Miracle camera on a phone it ain't happening. There is a reason those $10,000 DSLR lenses take great night time photos and cost so much. You will never achieve that quality on a phone camera.
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The camera is literally the one reason to go for the Ultra vs. the Plus. Screen and battery size difference are insignificant in this decision, so no, Samsung does need to step up and make the Ultra worthy of its name. With that said, I am not expecting DSLR quality. I have a 5D Mark IV and some very high end lenses and know the difference. However, matching or beating the Pixel 4 series or the iPhone 11 Pro shouldn't be a problem for the camera setup on the Ultra, except Samsung botched the implementation badly.

isko01 said:
Hi to all
I watch so many YT videos about camera comparison and see so many bad things about S20U camera. Is that because still camera software in beta or it is just what S20U is?
I watch S20U vs:
- Note 10 Plus,
- Huawei P40 Pro,
- Xiaomo Mi10,
- Iphone 11 Pro
And yes S20U have new big camera sensor but still they are no big improvements in night shoot's, astophotography, zoom, night videos, portret and etc.. And every phone have better camera in most situation. Whats wrong with S20U? Will Samsung fix this with software updates?
All the best
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Agree with you.
Pay 1400$ for S20U
- BATTERY not good than 11 pro max or oppo find x2 or p40 pro
- Exynos 990 so bad ( ex 990 < kirin 990 < sd 865)
- Camera can not take the moment well as iphone or other phone. Can't focus well, but photo and video day light is ok.
- screen ok but oppo find x2 pro's screen are better
Sorry for my bad english.
:silly:

About Camera:
Have S20 Ultra hardware that can improve with software? Or should I go for Mi 10?
Thank you