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i'm currently using the stock jelly bean 4.3 build and i'm not satisfied with it due to poor battery .i need a custom ROM that drastically improves the battery providing a full day of usage with 3g mobile data always on . i hear that installing custom ROM will degrade camera performance since the image processing algorithms get lost ,it it true ? is there any custom ROM that provides best battery life ,good call quality ,decent loud speaker(atleast similar to the stock one) and the same camera performance offered by the stock ROM
That would be great if custom rom had all you need,
But reality is that it doesn't at the moment
Yes camera quality on custom ROM is not as good as stock MIUI, also same with speakers
But you can improve battery life, heating issues, etc with proper selection of custom ROM and KERNEL
STOCK MIUI:-
1)Better Camera
2)LOUD speaker o/p
CUSTOM ROMS+KERNEL:-
1)Better battery
2)Better RAM manegment+Multitasking
3)Less heating
4)Updated Android Experience
BANG that THANKS button
at the end i ended up with the stock ROM jelly bean 4.3 since camera is very important for me . to prevent the overheating and battery issues i rooted the phone and underclocked the cpu to 1.2ghz with minimum frequency as 384mhz. may be this will help the phone to get the best of both worlds
Anyways there is a win
BTW the camera on custom ROM is not trash,its good.Stock camera has some edge over it that's it.
Anyways u should give a try to custom ROM sometime later(For me lollipop is much better than Jellybean) give a try,you can always revert back to stock if not satisfied.Your wish,use the one which gives more satisfaction
BANG that THANKS button
is the cm11 4.4.4 ROM in stable state ? i mean the most less bugs because this phone is my daily driver and i dont need it to fail on any occasions
Yes its stable I used it few months ago,CM12.1 that I'm currently using is also stable
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the word i mean stable is no bugs . i know that still lollipop is under development . my xperia l is getting official cm 12 and there are bugs with it . that's why i'm asking whether the cm11 is super stable with no bugs
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the word i mean stable is no bugs . i know that still lollipop is under development . my xperia l is getting official cm 12 and there are bugs with it . that's why i'm asking whether the cm11 is super stable with no bugs
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Unofficial cm11 r26 is the last update for kitkat from the armani group and is considered to be quite stable. I think battery life should be at least ok if not good. CM12.1 r4 has poor battery life at the moment. Miui v50 is supposed to give reasonably good battery life so try it if you haven't yet.
You can install the miui camera on cm11 or 12.1 but you don't have the option to save to sdcard or the HDR options but it works. I don't think the processing algorithms are any different since its the same program.
Yes, Camera in CM11 and CM12 is not as good as Stock. Especially video recording blinks when trying to focus which is a dealbreaker for some.
Well,If we consider that stock camera is 10/10 , CM11 would be 8/10.The same goes for speakers.I don't understand why the music,from youtube or music player is not that loud,and when the phone rings,it's like he ate a powerfull speaker
I used cm11 for a long long time and now I kinda regret that I updated to miui v6.The good thing about cm11 is that you decide what to keep,what to delete,battery is good,ram management is great,phone doesn't heat like crazy.
In the end , we don't have a custom rom or a stock rom which has it all.I remember I was very happy on miui v5 with some thermal config and root acces.thinking to revert back to that,I remember i switched because i got bored.
Marius Cristian said:
Well,If we consider that stock camera is 10/10 , CM11 would be 8/10.The same goes for speakers.I don't understand why the music,from youtube or music player is not that loud,and when the phone rings,it's like he ate a powerfull speaker
I used cm11 for a long long time and now I kinda regret that I updated to miui v6.The good thing about cm11 is that you decide what to keep,what to delete,battery is good,ram management is great,phone doesn't heat like crazy.
In the end , we don't have a custom rom or a stock rom which has it all.I remember I was very happy on miui v5 with some thermal config and root acces.thinking to revert back to that,I remember i switched because i got bored.
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I did a few test camera shots and found that the CM11 camera performs quite similarly to the miui camera. I was hard pressed to tell the difference btwn both apps except through from pixel peeping. Is there a scenario like HDR where the miui camera performs significantly better (8 vs 10) as you say?
Miui v5 has that 1gb zram thing which puts some lag, fast overheating due to 1.6Ghz max clock and has that sms bug which I didn't like. I could reduce the clockspeed after rooting but I still the 2 other issues and miui is too bloated for 1Gb ram.
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I did a few test camera shots and found that the CM11 camera performs quite similarly to the miui camera. I was hard pressed to tell the difference btwn both apps except through from pixel peeping. Is there a scenario like HDR where the miui camera performs significantly better (8 vs 10) as you say?
Miui v5 has that 1gb zram thing which puts some lag, fast overheating due to 1.6Ghz max clock and has that sms bug which I didn't like. I could reduce the clockspeed after rooting but I still the 2 other issues and miui is too bloated for 1Gb ram.
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First things first,the HDR doesn't even work in CM11.
Then,the ram management is decent,all you have to do is to strip down the rom a little(remove all bloatware,the security thing,don't use sync and don't let all your apps notify you,use notifications just for what you need.Greenify is also a good option after you did all those things.In MIUI V6,when you use the phone a little,like browsing for couple of minutes,or use camera,or facebook and so on,when you click on home button,an message appears " Just a sec " and after 2-3 seconds the launcher appears.Also,multitasking is bad in MIUI v6.I mean you open facebook for example,you click on a link and gets you in browser and then when you come back to facebook it doesn't starts from where you left it,it loads again.In miui v5 at least I could open 3-4 apps and use multitasking properly.
About sms bug,I have no clue what you're saying.
The heating isn't an issue,of course if it's not underclocking the cpu too much and the phone lags.Just flash a better thermal config from xda and there'll be no issues.
In conclusion,this phone will always lack something.It's cheap and that says it all.However,the building quality is great,I've dropped it couple of times,few times even without case and I couldn't see a scratch.The camera is amazing,including the video one.The performance,well,it comes at a cost.Either you reduce performance and keep the cpu cold,or you choose to play great games,but the phone will heat up.Honestly,I used an samsung galaxy s5,not mine,but played with it a little,and it heats up pretty bad too.So...enjoy your redmi 1s.
^pretty much sums it.
Could you please guide me towards a thermal config for stock ? Will i need to flash a kernel or a governor?
Thanks
Marius Cristian said:
First things first,the HDR doesn't even work in CM11.
Then,the ram management is decent,all you have to do is to strip down the rom a little(remove all bloatware,the security thing,don't use sync and don't let all your apps notify you,use notifications just for what you need.Greenify is also a good option after you did all those things.In MIUI V6,when you use the phone a little,like browsing for couple of minutes,or use camera,or facebook and so on,when you click on home button,an message appears " Just a sec " and after 2-3 seconds the launcher appears.Also,multitasking is bad in MIUI v6.I mean you open facebook for example,you click on a link and gets you in browser and then when you come back to facebook it doesn't starts from where you left it,it loads again.In miui v5 at least I could open 3-4 apps and use multitasking properly.
About sms bug,I have no clue what you're saying.
The heating isn't an issue,of course if it's not underclocking the cpu too much and the phone lags.Just flash a better thermal config from xda and there'll be no issues.
In conclusion,this phone will always lack something.It's cheap and that says it all.However,the building quality is great,I've dropped it couple of times,few times even without case and I couldn't see a scratch.The camera is amazing,including the video one.The performance,well,it comes at a cost.Either you reduce performance and keep the cpu cold,or you choose to play great games,but the phone will heat up.Honestly,I used an samsung galaxy s5,not mine,but played with it a little,and it heats up pretty bad too.So...enjoy your redmi 1s.
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If the only difference btwn the miui vs cynogen/google camera quality (8 vs 10) is HDR, then custom rom users aren't doing so bad.
The SMS bug affects numbers where the country code ends in a "0" and some sms's cannot be replied from the messaging app depending on how a phone number is stored in the contacts list (whether it contains the country code or not). Its a big problem and the bug report is still open. According to Xiaomi theres no easy fix.
Having the max cpu clock set to 1.6Ghz means the phone heats up far more quickly. And manufacturers whose phones use the same cpu only clock it to 1.4Ghz. Thats why CM's default speed is set to 1.4Ghz as well.
Enjoy your redmi 1s too.
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^pretty much sums it.
Could you please guide me towards a thermal config for stock ? Will i need to flash a kernel or a governor?
Thanks
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Here's the link.Choose whatever you like.Remember to use it only on stock miui v5.I haven't tested it on miui v6,but it's not necessary,as miui v6 doesn't have this issue.
So I am switching to the One + 5T, I am coming from the Axon 7. I have alot of reading to do to catch up to current activity. I am curious if someone could assist on what to do and what not to do to quickly optimize my experience with this device. Are there certain update to do and not to do to avoid getting to a point of no return? I am not new to romming and unlocking the potential of devices.
On devices previously, it was better not to do certain updates due to locking yourself out of certain features and abilities that rooting and flashing custom roms provides. Mostly I would like to know what not to do, as I will read through all tutorials and instructions to find what best works for me. I would like to get the device I will be using daily up to speed.
Are there kernels that are better than others for battery like without compromising performance?
I read that 'codename phoenix' is the only ASOP with full OEM camera functionality, Is this still true as where I rad that could easily be dated with all the support for this device?
Any guidance or answers are greatly appreciated. To this device I am a noob, but not to the helpful community atmosphere XDA can provide
Thanks and Kind Regards,
Fellow enthusiast.
+1 for OP.
Wondering also what are possible benefits and drawbacks of using custom/modded version of kernel?
I couldn't get the OOS portrait mode to work on codename phenoix. In my experience codename phenoix had the worst camera experience. Every app like Snapchat and instagram had camera bugs and other ROMs don't. I also recommend flash kernel on any ROM. Rock stable and fast AF . there's always a way to get back to 100% stock and locked bootloader. I have net heard of a fully hard brick that couldnt be fixed. So go for it, even if u stay on OOS then later choose to go custom roms.
I'm on custom ROMs using gcam v6 beta. Its way better than OOS cam. I'm using the HDR front cam fix and I have the pixel 2 portrait mode on front and rear. Way better than OOS portrait but only work on human faces. U can also use this on OOS but with the fix it breaks face unlock
I'm in the same situation here, I'm getting my OP5T tomorrow and I've been reading XDA non-stop for a week trying to figure out the differences between the popular ROMs and Kernels so I know where to start.
So far I've come to the conclusion that Flash Kernel (for custom Roms or OOS) and RenderZenith (for OOS Stock only) are probably the best kernels around if you want performance and stability. Franco Kernel would be for saving more battery probably sacrificing performance.
And for stable ROMs (I don't care too much about customization, I just want stability and performance) either Omnirom or Liquid Remix.
Of course that it's really hard to judge without even being able to try them first and just reading lots of comments about each one, so I think I'll start with these first and see what happens. I've also seen many people recommending Resurrection Remix.
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I'm in the same situation here, I'm getting my OP5T tomorrow and I've been reading XDA non-stop for a week trying to figure out the differences between the popular ROMs and Kernels so I know where to start.
So far I've come to the conclusion that Flash Kernel (for custom Roms or OOS) and RenderZenith (for OOS Stock only) are probably the best kernels around if you want performance and stability. Franco Kernel would be for saving more battery probably sacrificing performance.
And for stable ROMs (I don't care too much about customization, I just want stability and performance) either Omnirom or Liquid Remix.
Of course that it's really hard to judge without even being able to try them first and just reading lots of comments about each one, so I think I'll start with these first and see what happens. I've also seen many people recommending Resurrection Remix.
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Tbh u just need to get them and try them all. I was like you. I made my mind up, that I would stick to RR when I got it. But I've tried most of the ROMs now, and tbh they are really similar in features wise. Some have little bits and pieces which make you stay. For example on cr droid u can customise the alert slider to toggle auto rotate and force rotation off etc.
Some ROMs lagged for me, some had delays when waking the screen, some didn't have proximity check when in pocket. Its up to you. Personally. Any time i'm on a custom ROM, I just flash , flash kernel because I know its amazing and lag free.
Ive been using Cr droid with flash kernel for weeks bug free with flash kernel for weeks.
I spent like one morning. Downloading all the ROMs, wiping and flashing them all without gapps so the install Is quick and just go through and looking at everything. U will be suprised how similar lots of them are. Its the little things that I look for.
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Tbh u just need to get them and try them all. I was like you. I made my mind up, that I would stick to RR when I got it. But I've tried most of the ROMs now, and tbh they are really similar in features wise. Some have little bits and pieces which make you stay. For example on cr droid u can customise the alert slider to toggle auto rotate and force rotation off etc.
Some ROMs lagged for me, some had delays when waking the screen, some didn't have proximity check when in pocket. Its up to you. Personally. Any time i'm on a custom ROM, I just flash , flash kernel because I know its amazing and lag free.
Ive been using Cr droid with flash kernel for weeks bug free with flash kernel for weeks.
I spent like one morning. Downloading all the ROMs, wiping and flashing them all without gapps so the install Is quick and just go through and looking at everything. U will be suprised how similar lots of them are. Its the little things that I look for.
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Thanks for your reply!
I'm thinking the first days I'll keep OOS and maybe flash "Flash Kernel" or "RenderZenith" since apparently it gives the smoothest experience and then I'll start flashing ROMs. I really like the idea of ROMs with OTA updates like LineageOS which I currently have on my Moto G4 Plus because then I don't have to continuously check the forums to see if there is an update available, do you know of any other custom ROM that does this? Also, when you update a ROM, do you have to flash the kernel again each time?
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Thanks for your reply!
I'm thinking the first days I'll keep OOS and maybe flash "Flash Kernel" or "RenderZenith" since apparently it gives the smoothest experience and then I'll start flashing ROMs. I really like the idea of ROMs with OTA updates like LineageOS which I currently have on my Moto G4 Plus because then I don't have to continuously check the forums to see if there is an update available, do you know of any other custom ROM that does this? Also, when you update a ROM, do you have to flash the kernel again each time?
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Yeah the custom kernel needs to be reflashed. So the ota will update but u will still need to flash a kernel which to me defeats the purpose of an ota. So I just manually do it. Also kernels get updated often too. OK what I recommend. As soon as u get the phone. Unlock the bootloader and install magisk. And stay stock for a while. Try out the camera (I miss the OOS cam with that awesome 4k stabilisation) but gcam is better for the rest. And then try custom kernels. I didn't really notice much difference on oos with custom kernels but on aosp I noticed it fly.
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Yeah the custom kernel needs to be reflashed. So the ota will update but u will still need to flash a kernel which to me defeats the purpose of an ota. So I just manually do it. Also kernels get updated often too. OK what I recommend. As soon as u get the phone. Unlock the bootloader and install magisk. And stay stock for a while. Try out the camera (I miss the OOS cam with that awesome 4k stabilisation) but gcam is better for the rest. And then try custom kernels. I didn't really notice much difference on oos with custom kernels but on aosp I noticed it fly.
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Awesome! And one last question if you don't mind, I'm pretty sure the phone will come with Android 7.1.2 and my understanding is that the latest OOS version contains Oreo. After hearing about all the bugs Oreo brought, should I stay in Nougat for now or is it safe to upgrade to Oreo? I don't mind staying in Nougat for now if it means I'll have better battery life and/or stability.
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Awesome! And one last question if you don't mind, I'm pretty sure the phone will come with Android 7.1.2 and my understanding is that the latest OOS version contains Oreo. After hearing about all the bugs Oreo brought, should I stay in Nougat for now or is it safe to upgrade to Oreo? I don't mind staying in Nougat for now if it means I'll have better battery life and/or stability.
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I'm using OOS 5.0.4 completely stock Android 8.0.0 which is the latest official version there is (to my knowledge) and I haven't experienced a single bug.
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Awesome! And one last question if you don't mind, I'm pretty sure the phone will come with Android 7.1.2 and my understanding is that the latest OOS version contains Oreo. After hearing about all the bugs Oreo brought, should I stay in Nougat for now or is it safe to upgrade to Oreo? I don't mind staying in Nougat for now if it means I'll have better battery life and/or stability.
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Oneplus last nougat update was 7.1.1 and the Oreo update for me has less bugs for me and has better battery life. Custom kernels can fix battery life ?. Wouldn't recommend to stay on nougat. Everyones on the Oreo train
TBH i feel that the stock OS is fine performance and battery wise and there is not much point rooting and installing a custom ROM unless you want even more customization than what OOS gives u
I think you're better off running the stock ROM (8.0 or 8.1) and stock kernel first on any new device, at least for a few days, to get a baseline. After that try different kernels and/or ROMs if you're not satisfied with stock.
Unless you have the stock experience you've nothing to compare custom mods to.
And to be frank, OOS is a pretty awesome AOSP mod anyway and any difference a kernel is going to make is in the margins.
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I think you're better off running the stock ROM (8.0 or 8.1) and stock kernel first on any new device, at least for a few days, to get a baseline. After that try different kernels and/or ROMs if you're not satisfied with stock.
Unless you have the stock experience you've nothing to compare custom mods to.
And to be frank, OOS is a pretty awesome AOSP mod anyway and any difference a kernel going to make is in the margins.
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^ this
I bought this phone a month ago and still using till now. After trying all stock and custom roms, I have my own choice, just simple, stock 5.0.4 rom (or beta 5 rom) + your favorite kernel (up to you) + stock camera mod (it's a must if you need better quality photos) + magisk (for camera mod) = stable daily use for me.
I have been using for over a week and I think it's going better with time, so far so good now, average 8 hrs SoT (15% bettery left) within 50+ hrs is about the same as my old Mate9, still less than custom rom 1 hr SoT but no problem for me (the phone comes with Dash charger). I also use Xposed with GB that's why I dont need custom roms anymore.
lemonade747 said:
I bought this phone a month ago and still using till now. After trying all stock and custom roms, I have my own choice, just simple, stock 5.0.4 rom (or beta 5 rom) + your favorite kernel (up to you) + stock camera mod (it's a must if you need better quality photos) + magisk (for camera mod) = stable daily use for me.
I have been using for over a week and I think it's going better with time, so far so good now, average 8 hrs SoT (15% bettery left) within 50+ hrs is about the same as my old Mate9, still less than custom rom 1 hr SoT but no problem for me (the phone comes with Dash charger). I also use Xposed with GB that's why I dont need custom roms anymore.
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Can you link which camera mod has there's a few knocking around it's it the gcam
Thanks
sutty86 said:
Can you link which camera mod has there's a few knocking around it's it the gcam
Thanks
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Here you are:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5/themes/mod-oneplus-camera-jpg-quality-to-100-t3714595
the title is for Oneplus5 but it's working well with 5T also, no problem so far. I used to use Gcam but after days I realized that it's not much better than stock mod cam. In addition, gcam shutter speed is slower than stock mod cam and it lacks of many feature from the stock one. I can say with stock mod cam, OP5T photo quality is better than my Mate9 right now, Im sure for that. (with original stock cam, it's the worst but with stock mod cam, it's much better than many cams out there, no more noise and grain in low light)
I've just come from mate 9 , bought a view 10 last week , really pissed at the camera/video lack of eis makes it unusuable.
Received 5t a few hours ago flashed beta and took some snaps video and I'm impressed
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Already missing ir blaster
Trust me i have been user of OP3 and now op5t ..OOS is best out there and if you wanto to go swing and unlock bootloaderOOS+Franco is lethal ..you can also use xXx no limits available on OP 5 forums or any other OOS based custom roms
lemonade747 said:
I bought this phone a month ago and still using till now. After trying all stock and custom roms, I have my own choice, just simple, stock 5.0.4 rom (or beta 5 rom) + your favorite kernel (up to you) + stock camera mod (it's a must if you need better quality photos) + magisk (for camera mod) = stable daily use for me.
I have been using for over a week and I think it's going better with time, so far so good now, average 8 hrs SoT (15% bettery left) within 50+ hrs is about the same as my old Mate9, still less than custom rom 1 hr SoT but no problem for me (the phone comes with Dash charger). I also use Xposed with GB that's why I dont need custom roms anymore.
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What module are you using in magisk
I have tried Pie roms but they are not as stable as Oreo. Especially in games like PUBG where there are glitches.
Anyone else on a stable Oreo rom? Which rom and why? (Do mention Android version to avoid confusion.)
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I have tried Pie roms but they are not as stable as Oreo. Especially in games like PUBG where there are glitches.
Anyone else on a stable Oreo rom? Which rom and why? (Do mention Android version to avoid confusion.)
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I'm on bootleggers 3.0 last oreo build with derp 2.8 Kernel i tried almost all ths oreo ROMs and this one is my favorite , you should try it once :good:
yes,
I am using Cardinal AOSP and pretty much happy with this ROM ! :fingers-crossed:
you can try it
Yaps i still on orea , i have tried most of pie rom available for our device but all of them has some kind of glitches and not enough customization as in oreo ,so i will stay in oreo untill pie rom as stable as oreo and has enough customization.
yep, still using aosip oreo rom, it's the first rom i flash after unlocking bootloader, pretty much stable for my daily use
I'm still on AOSiP Oreo, pretty much since I've bought the phone back in June (used RR for some 10 days maybe), and have briefly tried Pixel Experience, but back when it just came out.
Oreo roms are still more stable than Pie, although for my kind of usage I could even go for Pie, but I don't want to give up Xposed just yet.
It would be nice to have another update for Oreo roms with updated blobs, but I guess exactly 0 devs share this opinion so there's that.
@Cirra92
What"s wrong with AOSP PIE roms ? I"m using PE right now. Apart from "not perfect" standby battery drain, broken manual network selection, broken 5GHz hotspot and that time when MIUI camera refused to record a video (fixed it by rebooting the phone) there isn"t much to complain about. PIE roms seems stable to me
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@Cirra92
What"s wrong with AOSP PIE roms ? I"m using PE right now. Apart from "not perfect" standby battery drain, broken manual network selection, broken 5GHz hotspot and that time when MIUI camera refused to record a video (fixed it by rebooting the phone) there isn"t much to complain about. PIE roms seems stable to me
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Well I didn't state anywhere that they are unstable, I have just said that Oreo roms are still more stable which means more refined and bugs (mostly, or at least the major noticeable ones) ironed out. You have named couple of bugs already, there are also couple of bigger ones, not supported SD card formats, unstable network handoffs (4G->3G->2G), some roms have WiFi bugs. And that's normal, count in the time put in Oreo roms, and on the other hand Pie roms, as with each major Android release, new bugs arrive, some harder to fix, some easier.
And another note I want to make (mentioned in previous post) that for my particular usage, Pie roms are probably suitable enough, though it depends when will I decide to switch and give up on GravityBox and XInsta (mainly the latter).
Pie roms are certainly getting polished, and are already daily driver material for most people, but still, not everyone.
Revolution OS in combination with latest Deep Kernel.
Perfect for me. Smooth, no lags, fast and awesome battery life
Hi peeps
My wife have note 5 pro and she tired of miui..
Please suggest a stable and daily driver ROM with good standby back up.. Where everything works..including volte.. We use jio only..
She cannot keep changing ROM for trial.. I cannot change my phone with her and try as I have z2 and don't want note 5 pro..???
Can be Oreo as well..
Please help??????
Lineage OS or Pixel Experience
I recently switched to LOS 16 from Xiaomi.EU. The ROM is quite smooth and stand by time is excellent. Also, it comes with MIUI camera and Cam 2 API enabled out of the box. In case she doesn't need much of customisation, then you can definitely use this as a daily driver. I have the 29/09 build ( post with 30 sept) version.
I've also used PE Plus in the past which is also another stable option with great battery standby.
The only important thing I find in LOS is it allows me to use ViLTE (Video) using Jio SIM, the last time I checked in PE, it wasn't there. Make sure you check it if you need it.
I bought a 2nd hand (mint) white Nexus 7 2013 last year in March.
Soon after I had a bad flash it was soft bricked, I can get into recovery and get fastboot to work etc, but NRT won't work to restore it, so I put it in a drawer and forgot about it.
I got it out today and would like to get it working, it seems it is possible and I will give it a good go later on
My question is, I remember it being quite laggy on YouTube and in general. Is this still true? Or will it be perfectly okay on a custom rom/kernel?
I really only want it for YouTube and Netflix and maybe the odd web browsing session. No games or intensive apps!
Thanks
Update - Got it back up and running. On fully stock 6.0.1 now. Not quite sure what my best bet is for a custom rom. I ideally want reasonable performance when scrolling and the battery not to be completely awful.
Is there a go-to for this device for stable, reliable performance? It won't be used all the time, maybe an hour or so a day for watching YouTube or a Netflix show. Maybe scrolling through some news apps if I get bored. My smartphone is a Pixel 2XL, so I know the performance won't be anything like that, so it won't replace my phone for most of my tasks.
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Update - Got it back up and running. On fully stock 6.0.1 now. Not quite sure what my best bet is for a custom rom. I ideally want reasonable performance when scrolling and the battery not to be completely awful.
Is there a go-to for this device for stable, reliable performance? It won't be used all the time, maybe an hour or so a day for watching YouTube or a Netflix show. Maybe scrolling through some news apps if I get bored. My smartphone is a Pixel 2XL, so I know the performance won't be anything like that, so it won't replace my phone for most of my tasks.
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I've been using Unlegacy Android plus ElementalX kernel since last November. See this post for my feedback and some pro tips
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=80842805&postcount=542
The only drawback is that you'll need an older version of the Netflix app (just search for "Netflix" in the ROM thread) because Widevine L1 (which is a requirement for FullHD support in newer versions of Netflix) is only supported in the stock 6.0.1 ROM as well as custom ROMs based on 6.0.1. That older version of Netflix does not check Widevine level—BUT also does not support offline saving for later viewing.
If this is an issue for you, just stay on 6.0.1
PS If you decide to use ElementalX kernel, DO NOT UPDATE it past version 7.00!
Version 7.02 is for LineageOS only and will screw up GUI big time.
You can try this rom:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-7-2013/development/rom-t3569067
No battery drain. :good:
I was going to flash Pixel Experience ROM last night, but had some issues...
I flashed the latest TWRP via fastboot and it was successful and booted into TWRP fine, but then bootlooped when I restarted the system? I then booted back into TWRP, loaded up the ROM I chose and tried to flash that, which gave me Error 7 I believe and did not work. So I left it at that and will reflash stock 6.0.1 tonight and maybe try an older version of TWRP? Not sure why it bootlooped the first time.
Can I go straight to 9.0 from 6.0.1? Not sure why it wouldn't flash the Pixel Experience ROM.
Edit- I installed version 'twrp-3.3.1-0-flo.img 8.8M 2019-05-19 16:27:52 EDT'
The verson of the rom I installed was the pure experience 'plus' version on the download page. Maybe that was my mistake? I am going to try a Nougat rom tonight to see how that works first before committing to 9.0 +
I flashed aosp extended 7.1.2 but YouTube is still very slow.
Will this be the case for every rom and kernel?
I'm now on Pure Nexus 7.1.2 it seems very good really, much quicker than stock.
YouTube was still slow, so I just created a shortcut to the browser version which is much smoother.
Overall really enjoying having a small tablet again.
I'd buy one with up to date spec in a heartbeat
gman88667733 said:
I was going to flash Pixel Experience ROM last night, but had some issues...
I flashed the latest TWRP via fastboot and it was successful and booted into TWRP fine, but then bootlooped when I restarted the system? I then booted back into TWRP, loaded up the ROM I chose and tried to flash that, which gave me Error 7 I believe and did not work. So I left it at that and will reflash stock 6.0.1 tonight and maybe try an older version of TWRP? Not sure why it bootlooped the first time.
Can I go straight to 9.0 from 6.0.1? Not sure why it wouldn't flash the Pixel Experience ROM.
Edit- I installed version 'twrp-3.3.1-0-flo.img 8.8M 2019-05-19 16:27:52 EDT'
The verson of the rom I installed was the pure experience 'plus' version on the download page. Maybe that was my mistake? I am going to try a Nougat rom tonight to see how that works first before committing to 9.0 +
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If you get error 7, you need repartition.
System partition is too small for this rom.
gman88667733 said:
I flashed aosp extended 7.1.2 but YouTube is still very slow.
Will this be the case for every rom and kernel?
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Unfortunately, 720p60 will be slow anyway, but you can use NewPipe to watch 720p60/1080p60 videos in 1080p30. Check post #3 above for the link to my post with detailed feedback and tips.
Moreover, I do recommend Unlegacy Android plus ElementalX kernel. With a mild overclock (again, details are in my post mentioned above) the tablet becomes WAY smoother.
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gman88667733 said:
I flashed aosp extended 7.1.2 but YouTube is still very slow.
Will this be the case for every rom and kernel?
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MarviXDA said:
You can try this rom:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-7-2013/development/rom-t3569067
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Is there any kernel for this ROM that allows for both overclocking CPU/GPU and undervolting CPU?
I didn't mean the video playback was slow. The scrolling in the app was slow, very stuttery
gman88667733 said:
I didn't mean the video playback was slow. The scrolling in the app was slow, very stuttery
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Well then you need a ROM/kernel combo that will make it possible to overclock the CPU.
I use YouTube Vanced/Newpipe and scrolling is okeyish there after a mild CPU/GPU overclock.
m00nlighter said:
Unfortunately, 720p60 will be slow anyway, but you can use NewPipe to watch 720p60/1080p60 videos in 1080p30. Check post #3 above for the link to my post with detailed feedback and tips.
Moreover, I do recommend Unlegacy Android plus ElementalX kernel. With a mild overclock (again, details are in my post mentioned above) the tablet becomes WAY smoother.
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Is there any kernel for this ROM that allows for both overclocking CPU/GPU and undervolting CPU?
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while the battery holds a charge of 3 days, I see no reason to waste time on such searches. There will be a task - I will decide.
gman88667733 said:
Update - Got it back up and running. On fully stock 6.0.1 now. Not quite sure what my best bet is for a custom rom. I ideally want reasonable performance when scrolling and the battery not to be completely awful.
Is there a go-to for this device for stable, reliable performance? It won't be used all the time, maybe an hour or so a day for watching YouTube or a Netflix show. Maybe scrolling through some news apps if I get bored. My smartphone is a Pixel 2XL, so I know the performance won't be anything like that, so it won't replace my phone for most of my tasks.
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My Nexus 7 is on stock 6.0.1 with Elemental X kernel using all stock settings and it still runs like a champ I use it more than my s9 plus for watching YouTube and other streaming apps I would say the Nexus 7 is definitely still usable.
Tmzdroid said:
My Nexus 7 is on stock 6.0.1 with Elemental X kernel using all stock settings and it still runs like a champ I use it more than my s9 plus for watching YouTube and other streaming apps I would say the Nexus 7 is definitely still usable.
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Does yours lag when scrolling on YouTube? Even on Pure Nexus ROM mine will lag a lot when scrolling and takes forever to load my subscription page.
gman88667733 said:
Does yours lag when scrolling on YouTube? Even on Pure Nexus ROM mine will lag a lot when scrolling and takes forever to load my subscription page.
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No there is no lag when scrolling on youtube.
Tmzdroid said:
No there is no lag when scrolling on youtube.
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How bizarre...
So to confirm, you are on stock 6.0.1, the last update from Google and all you did was flash EX kernel on top of it?
Did YouTube lag when scrolling on fully stock? It lags for me no matter what I've tried so far
gman88667733 said:
How bizarre...
So to confirm, you are on stock 6.0.1, the last update from Google and all you did was flash EX kernel on top of it?
Did YouTube lag when scrolling on fully stock? It lags for me no matter what I've tried so far
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Yes it runs sweet as the only trouble I ever had with my Nexus was when the screen stopped autorotating and was acting up so I used the following fix using a strip of foam and it's been perfect ever since. I also applied some tape to the wider silver ribbon cable along the top edge of the battery as shown in the pictures.
It might be worth trying these fixes on your tablet.
Tmzdroid said:
Yes it runs sweet as the only trouble I ever had with my Nexus was when the screen stopped autorotating and was acting up so I used the following fix using a strip of foam and it's been perfect ever since. I also applied some tape to the wider silver ribbon cable along the top edge of the battery as shown in the pictures.
It might be worth trying these fixes on your tablet.
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And it runs quickly on the YouTube app? I find mine runs fine when opening YouTube on a web browser, but the app is the slowest app I have ever used on it.
Tmzdroid said:
My Nexus 7 is on stock 6.0.1 with Elemental X kernel using all stock settings and it still runs like a champ I use it more than my s9 plus for watching YouTube and other streaming apps I would say the Nexus 7 is definitely still usable.
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With a mild overclock in ElementalX kernel (CPU to 1728 MHz and GPU to 450 MHz), the UI is way smoother than at stock frequencies.
However I switched to Unlegacy Android to enjoy more recent security updates as well as updated ElementalX kernel (it's 7.00 for Oreo ROMs).