Hi together,
I tried to uninstall some bloat ware from my Moto G5. I tried some System App removers, but after an update some Apps (e.g. Chrome) appeared in my app drawer again...
Does anyone know, what causes this behavior?
After that I used a simple file browser to delete the Chrome folder and the Maps folder from the file system. I rebooted and Maps was still in my App drawer... But I was able to deinstall it. I was really happy until I tried to open Acrobat reader, because it crashed after a few seconds. Similar K9-Mail: It started properly, but if I tried to open a mail, the app crashed.
Could anyone explain this strange behavior?
Greetings
Cylone
PS: I have stock firmware with all security updates and Magisk v16
PPS: I restored my backup this day, what caused a bootloop. The only way I saw to fix this was to flash the stock firmware... Now I have back all my bloat Ware and Gapps
Just install a debloated stock rom, flash it as you would a regular rom: https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5/development/rom-debloated-optimized-t3722396
Exanneon said:
Just install a debloated stock rom, flash it as you would a regular rom: https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5/development/rom-debloated-optimized-t3722396
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Well, that's it. First thing I read on this thread is: I left Chrome only because of WebView, if you delete it remember to download Android WebView, otherwise everything will crash.
As I wrote, I removed Chrome without installing Android WebView. This had to cause the crashes.
Thank you very much Exanneon!
You're welcome even though I'm not the one who suggested to install WebView, however I still do recommend installing a debloated stock rather than staying on regular stock, I mean you already have twrp so there's nothing to lose, you can always make a backup of your regular stock and try out the debloated one.
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You're welcome even though I'm not the one who suggested to install WebView, however I still do recommend installing a debloated stock rather than staying on regular stock, I mean you already have twrp so there's nothing to lose, you can always make a backup of your regular stock and try out the debloated one.
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I tried the debloated ROM and I really like it. Only a few Apps Further I removed Chrome, but WebView was disabled. I was not a able to find it in the Apps overview. So I was not able to activate it...
My quick and dirty solution was to delete WebView, install it from Playstore again and move it to system/app. Last step seems to be necessary.
So are you going to stick to the debloated option or just the regular stock?
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So are you going to stick to the debloated option or just the regular stock?
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Yes, I will keep running the debloated ROM. It's working without any problems :good:
Good choice ?
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see #5 for problem
Hi guys,
so after quite some time with custom Roms I decided to go stock again as somehow I don't need root at all. Well, that's not true. I miss AdAway.
As there is no possibility to root the stock rom, is there ANY AdBlocker that works on Lollipop? AdBlock Plus doesn't (yet).
Why did you say there is no possibility to root the stock rom ?
I'm running Stock ROM, rooted and AdAway running fine.
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Why did you say there is no possibility to root the stock rom ?
I'm running Stock ROM, rooted and AdAway running fine.
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How do you root the stock rom? I couldn't find out how.
Can I root without losing my data?
fBx said:
How do you root the stock rom? I couldn't find out how.
Can I root without losing my data?
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Flash twrp recovery and root through the recovery. It'll ask you when you reboot the system if you want to root it
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Huh. Didn't know it was THAT straightforward and I've been flashing my phones for years.
Well. I flashed TWRP and SuperSU 2.46, succeeded. But Adaway and Adfree don't work correctly. They block the ads but only until you reboot, then it's reverted, kinda like with a tethered jailbreak on iPhones.
What am I doing wrong here? Also the block is not like on KitKat - there it was really blocked, really removed, here only the images of the ads are removed but you still see the space they were supposed to be.
I also used a system app removal tool that also didn't work although it shows success. It just removes the installed data like updates.
When I delete apps manually via ES Explorer, they just reappear at the next reboot.
Root Checker says root is fine but it isn't supposed to behave like that and undo my changes.
What's wrong? Do I need another kernel maybe? As I said I went back to stock completely and updatet through to L.
I believe I got whats causing the issue.
After deleting a system app and rebooting, I got a message saying that the phone was restored from an "unnormal behaviour". Does Lollipop bring some kind of system restore point that just automatically restores itself when "weird" things like host file alteration happens? If yes, how do I get rid of that?
This phone has always had system files protected since KitKat. You need a kernel mod to delete system apps.
Don't know why the ad blockers aren't working. Adaway is working fine for me on stock US Dev Edition rooted. You said you are using Adaway and AdFree? Are you actually using both at the same time? maybe they are interfering with each other?
No I meant it happens with both. Only use adaway now. They work but after a reboot the adblock is gone and I need to apply it again. In fact, AdAway says it's deactivated and AdFree says it's already up to date but ads show anyway and I need to install the fix again to get rid of them.
Can you maybe point me to a kernel mod? Would want to get rid of some bloatware.
Maybe I should try installing xposed and see if it's gone after a reboot.
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Can you maybe point me to a kernel mod? Would want to get rid of some bloatware.
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The thread is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2701816
But unfortunately, flar2 hasn't had the time to update for LP. A user posted the kernel module in Post #210, but a subsequent user said it doesn't work. Custom ROMs have write protection disabled, as does Dev Edition stock ROM.
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No I meant it happens with both. Only use adaway now. They work but after a reboot the adblock is gone and I need to apply it again. In fact, AdAway says it's deactivated and AdFree says it's already up to date but ads show anyway and I need to install the fix again to get rid of them.
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Odd, as mentioned, I've used AdAway for quite some time now, and don't have these issues.
Yes, very odd indeed. Well, if I don't get it sorted out somehow I might as well switch to Viper or some other close to stock custom Rom again, or make it Dev like you.
Things are getting worse, in 1 of 2 cases AdAway spits an error at me when trying to apply the fixes and the phone just reboots and undos everything. It's like some protection from rooting or changing anything although I am rooted. I don't understand it. I can't possibly be the only one having problems with root on Stock Lollipop
This is really annoying me. I think I'm better of just installing a custom rom and setting the phone up again, will cost me an hour but at least I'm done with the bugs.
Yup, decided to jump the gun, wipe and install ViperOne and now everything works as I wanted it to. AdAway stays active and working.
fBx said:
Yup, decided to jump the gun, wipe and install ViperOne and now everything works as I wanted it to. AdAway stays active and working.
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Interesting. I wonder if Adaway is dependent on the system write protection being disabled. I wouldn't normally suspect that, and only thinking of it since you mentioned the system write protection issue as well.
On the other hand, its the only difference I can think of between my phone and yours that would matter. I am on stock rooted Dev Edition, which apparently does not have the system write protection enabled by default.
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Interesting. I wonder if Adaway is dependent on the system write protection being disabled. I wouldn't normally suspect that, and only thinking of it since you mentioned the system write protection issue as well.
On the other hand, its the only difference I can think of between my phone and yours that would matter. I am on stock rooted Dev Edition, which apparently does not have the system write protection enabled by default.
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I also assume that's the reason. I've never been on a stock rom since I don't know when, but figured that actually I only wanted AdAway which would normally not require a custom rom per se... but as it didn't really work in the end (and also other root-requiring stuff), I went back to custom again. Well, it's not that it's that difficult to wipe the phone occasionally and set up a clean custom rom to get it back to perfect performance. Gonna go with it.
Tried the slap fix. Checked cpu z and my sensors look normal but I'm not sure really what they should look like. Tried turning rotation off then rebooting then turning back on. I have xposed, I saw another forum where someone said they disabled something in xposed to fix it but they didn't say what. Any help is greatly appreciated. I've done the dev conversion and rooted.
Have you uninstalled any apps (especially using Titanium Backup)?
Trying to uninstall Facebook or Instagram using Titanium Backup broke screen rotation for me. Manually deleting the app folders in /system/app/ was fine, though.
blindmanpb said:
Have you uninstalled any apps (especially using Titanium Backup)?
Trying to uninstall Facebook or Instagram using Titanium Backup broke screen rotation for me. Manually deleting the app folders in /system/app/ was fine, though.
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I did uninstall both of them with tb. And like the smart person I am I made no backup. Help?
Edit: Would installing from the app store fix it?
Edit:Edit: I tried, it didn't work. What can I do?
Is there a place I can download the apks from the stock image? I have the stock incremented one installed from here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/not...nt/firmware-safe-upgrade-to-lollipop-t3313224
Would that even fix this issue?
It's not so much the apps themselves that's the issue, apparently TB deletes some system libraries that affect screen rotation.
The easiest/safest thing to do would be to reflash one of the safe upgrade options and re-root the phone. Deleting most apps with TB seems to be safe, but manually delete Facebook & Instagram.
Glad to hear the cause of this issue has been narrowed down to the uninstall of Insta and Facebook from system apps. Do you know if it's still safe to disable these apps by using something like Root App Disabler?
This worked for me. Dont flash , just copy the file in the zip to where it needs to go and reboot. It should be fine. Ofcourse make a backup in case.
MeltedMarshmallow said:
Glad to hear the cause of this issue has been narrowed down to the uninstall of Insta and Facebook from system apps. Do you know if it's still safe to disable these apps by using something like Root App Disabler?
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I have disabled Facebook and Instagram using Titanium Backup and later manually deleted the apps from /system without affecting screen rotation.
The only issue appears to be using Titanium Backup to uninstall them.
I, too, have this problem with Jasmine v7.0. I have deinstalled facebook via TB and now screen rotation no longer works. I tried the libgnustl_shared.so fix but that does not seem to work for me as screen rotation is still broken. If anyone has another idea I am willing to give it a try. Otherwise I think I may re-flash Jasmine and manually remove facebook.
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Is there a place I can download the apks from the stock image? I have the stock incremented one installed from here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/not...nt/firmware-safe-upgrade-to-lollipop-t3313224
Would that even fix this issue?
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I would try a dirty flash of the exact version of the ROM you're using. It should reinstall the missing programs without messing much else up.
mlcampbe said:
I, too, have this problem with Jasmine v7.0. I have deinstalled facebook via TB and now screen rotation no longer works. I tried the libgnustl_shared.so fix but that does not seem to work for me as screen rotation is still broken. If anyone has another idea I am willing to give it a try. Otherwise I think I may re-flash Jasmine and manually remove facebook.
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If you can't find anything else that works, wiping and re-flashing with Jasmine 7.0 definitely does. I flashed + deleted facebook quite a few times before I realized it was causing the screen rotation bug. It's tedious, but it will get rid of the problem.
Seems like facebook deletion via TB is not the only way to break screen rotation. I did a test and deleted several apps via TB (but left facebook installed) and I cannot pinpoint exactly which one broke rotation I can confirm that screen rotation did stop working. Therefore it seems that the best route altogether would be to delete apps manually instead of using TB to do so.
ammar1514 said:
This worked for me. Dont flash , just copy the file in the zip to where it needs to go and reboot. It should be fine. Ofcourse make a backup in case.
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I'm running Jasmine V7, MM. Can you please tell me what ROM your fix worked for. I tried downloading, copy pasting "libgnustl_shared.so" to correct folder (mine was missing). Then, battery out/ reboot -didn't work. Other Note: I don't think I can dirty flash my ROM in the traditional sense as Jasmine V7 was only released in backup form. I would have wipe and to do fresh install. (This would suck as it mine is heavily modified) -THX!
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I'm running Jasmine V7, MM. Can you please tell me what ROM your fix worked for. I tried downloading, copy pasting "libgnustl_shared.so" to correct folder (mine was missing). Then, battery out/ reboot -didn't work. Other Note: I don't think I can dirty flash my ROM in the traditional sense as Jasmine V7 was only released in backup form. I would have wipe and to do fresh install. (This would suck as it mine is heavily modified) -THX!
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Use the file in this thread . http://forum.xda-developers.com/not...-screen-rotation-fix-libgnustlshared-t3408140
I believe this is for MM and the one I posted before is for lollipop
YESSSS!!!!
ammar1514 said:
Use the file in this thread . http://forum.xda-developers.com/not...-screen-rotation-fix-libgnustlshared-t3408140
I believe this is for MM and the one I posted before is for lollipop
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This worked for me. Dont flash , just copy the file in the zip to where it needs to go and reboot. It should be fine. Ofcourse make a backup in case.
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YESSSSS!!!!
Thank you!!!
...worked on my VZW Note 4 running 6.0.1
Threw this together. A simple aroma-based debater for the OP5. If anyone wants something more added, just let me know...
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=673368273298973644
dustintinsley said:
Threw this together. A simple aroma-based debater for the OP5. If anyone wants something more added, just let me know...
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=673368273298973644
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more info please..
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gershee said:
more info please..
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A debloater for OnePlus 5 (really any OxygenOS, but I only have OP5 now). Allows for removal of a lot of pre-installed apps. All apps are user selected. Can trim down and remove unused apps.
Hi,
I tried it with new OOS 4.57 and did not delete any Gapp
For system apps related to Oneplus like logskit and so on, it was ok and working like a charm.
tokecin said:
Hi,
I tried it with new OOS 4.57 and did not delete any Gapp
For system apps related to Oneplus like logskit and so on, it was ok and working like a charm.
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Interesting comment as my long time debloat app System app remover (ROOT) wasn't able to remove Gapps apps (Google Music, Google Movie/TV) either. I'm trying to make /system room for installing V4ARISE but after this latest OTA there is not enough /system space left.
In fact that's why I'm looking at this debloat method. I wonder if the issue you observed is why the app I'd previously used no longer works. Unless I find something better I'll likely try Titanium Backup's uninstall method but I was looking for a way to batch clean up which I suspect would need to get done after every OTA.
EDIT: Using Titanium Backup to backup then uninstall worked. I removed Duo (~20Mg) to recovery the space I needed.
3DSammy said:
Interesting comment as my long time debloat app System app remover (ROOT) wasn't able to remove Gapps apps (Google Music, Google Movie/TV) either. I'm trying to make /system room for installing V4ARISE but after this latest OTA there is not enough /system space left.
In fact that's why I'm looking at this debloat method. I wonder if the issue you observed is why the app I'd previously used no longer works. Unless I find something better I'll likely try Titanium Backup's uninstall method but I was looking for a way to batch clean up which I suspect would need to get done after every OTA.
EDIT: Using Titanium Backup to backup then uninstall worked. I removed Duo (~20Mg) to recovery the space I needed.
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I am using also Titanium Backup for Gapps but freezing them rather than un-install.
Today, I tried deeper aroma script and I can uninstall every bloatware less Gapps (Chrome, Gmail,...)
Hey
Anyone having Problems with deinstalling the system apps too?
I am successfully rooted and tried to deinstall YouTube/maps/chrome etc., but the always come back after reboot.i am trying with titanium backup, magisk debloat and magisk App systemizer, but no matter which way I choose.. The result ist always the same...
As I understood, system apps are on read-only partition, so it's near impossible to get rid of them. I managed to remove them usind adb, but I think it's not permanent solution.
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Anyone having Problems with deinstalling the system apps too?
I am successfully rooted and tried to deinstall YouTube/maps/chrome etc., but the always come back after reboot.i am trying with titanium backup, magisk debloat and magisk App systemizer, but no matter which way I choose.. The result ist always the same...
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Try this one: https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-uninstall-apps-t3776235/amp/
Open the link in a browser.
When you uninstall an app, you may need to try a couple of times, but it does go away.
Other solution is to freeze the app with TiBackup. Almost the same, the apps even stay frozen after an update.
morback said:
Other solution is to freeze the app with TiBackup. Almost the same, the apps even stay frozen after an update.
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Yes... Did this too. But sadly it is not a solution for YouTube-vanced...
Agree with all fronts. Very annoying. I'm hoping that titanium is able to fix this issue soon
freemannhp said:
Try this one: https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-uninstall-apps-t3776235/amp/
Open the link in a browser.
When you uninstall an app, you may need to try a couple of times, but it does go away.
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Thank you very much it worked at the second attempt ?
As the titles says, I want to completely remove the stock launcher (like it never existed) and install some other launcher (as if this was the only and stock launcher).
Bascially, This thread explains the problem in details.
I am on custom rom and rooted so I want to know how to make any launcher (lets say Lawn chair 2) stock/native from scratch and completely remove the stock one.
regedit12345 said:
As the titles says, I want to completely remove the stock launcher (like it never existed) and install some other launcher (as if this was the only and stock launcher).
Bascially, This thread explains the problem in details.
I am on custom rom and rooted so I want to know how to make any launcher (lets say Lawn chair 2) stock/native from scratch and completely remove the stock one.
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That is actually very hard, I personally like the pixel launcher on my custom roms and sometimes it doesn't work right. I always recommend switching first to see if the launcher works fully. Than since your rooted use magisk system debloater module off the manager. If you're on Android 11 than I don't know normally it doesn't read the partition layouts properly and doesn't work but you can try it. They need to update it for Android 11 but with the super partitions it makes it very difficult.
regedit12345 said:
As the titles says, I want to completely remove the stock launcher (like it never existed) and install some other launcher (as if this was the only and stock launcher).
Bascially, This thread explains the problem in details.
I am on custom rom and rooted so I want to know how to make any launcher (lets say Lawn chair 2) stock/native from scratch and completely remove the stock one.
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Yeah you could get rid of it via Root. There is a good app on the Play Store called something like System App Remover/Uninstaller? You could also try Magisk Modules!
dreamytom said:
Yeah you could get rid of it via Root. There is a good app on the Play Store called something like System App Remover/Uninstaller? You could also try Magisk Modules!
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That app doesn't work right anymore at least not on Samsung one ui. I don't know on Chinese manufacturers like Xiaomi. But everything with the system partition is different now. It basically doesn't matter if you're rooted you can't touch otherwise it bootloops. I would recommend making a twrp backup first than try whatever you like.
what about using adb? have you try using adb to uninstall it?
I someone managed to uninstall the stock launcher and install lawn chair 2 as native but in the process, i lost home navigation gestures, 2 button and 3 button navigation options.
Had to reinstall the rom all over again
regedit12345 said:
I someone managed to uninstall the stock launcher and install lawn chair 2 as native but in the process, i lost home navigation gestures, 2 button and 3 button navigation options.
Had to reinstall the rom all over again
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Yikes. Yeah yesterday I was almost going to say, be careful when uninstalling system apps. Its worth mentioning that the latest MIUI doesn't support Gestures on Third-Party Launchers, but you probably already know that.
Instead of clean-flashing, It may have been possible to dirty-flash the same ROM (with same version), to get Stock Launcher back without losing /data
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Yikes. Yeah yesterday I was almost going to say, be careful when uninstalling system apps. Its worth mentioning that the latest MIUI doesn't support Gestures on Third-Party Launchers, but you probably already know that.
Instead of clean-flashing, It may have been possible to dirty-flash the same ROM (with same version), to get Stock Launcher back without losing /data
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I did dirty flash first. Neither the launcher came back nor the gestures. Then google kept crashing since I didn't flash gapps knowing it is dirty flash so i don't need to flash gapps. All gapps started crashing and didn't work. So I flashed gapps but they still kept crashing so I said "fk it, i'll clean everything".
You have to systemize the app (you need root to do this). I wouldn't recommend deleting the stock launcher just incase your new launcher breaks
Try oneplus launcher magisk module.
Works well, looks well.
ptr21 said:
Try oneplus launcher magisk module.
Works well, looks well.
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Wait, does it work on MIUI? Does it include "Recents"?
No luck with MIUI, gestures wont work.
It includes recents. Lots of settings.