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Hi guys,
so after quite some time with custom Roms I decided to go stock again as somehow I don't need root at all. Well, that's not true. I miss AdAway.
As there is no possibility to root the stock rom, is there ANY AdBlocker that works on Lollipop? AdBlock Plus doesn't (yet).
Why did you say there is no possibility to root the stock rom ?
I'm running Stock ROM, rooted and AdAway running fine.
ckpv5 said:
Why did you say there is no possibility to root the stock rom ?
I'm running Stock ROM, rooted and AdAway running fine.
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How do you root the stock rom? I couldn't find out how.
Can I root without losing my data?
fBx said:
How do you root the stock rom? I couldn't find out how.
Can I root without losing my data?
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Flash twrp recovery and root through the recovery. It'll ask you when you reboot the system if you want to root it
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Huh. Didn't know it was THAT straightforward and I've been flashing my phones for years.
Well. I flashed TWRP and SuperSU 2.46, succeeded. But Adaway and Adfree don't work correctly. They block the ads but only until you reboot, then it's reverted, kinda like with a tethered jailbreak on iPhones.
What am I doing wrong here? Also the block is not like on KitKat - there it was really blocked, really removed, here only the images of the ads are removed but you still see the space they were supposed to be.
I also used a system app removal tool that also didn't work although it shows success. It just removes the installed data like updates.
When I delete apps manually via ES Explorer, they just reappear at the next reboot.
Root Checker says root is fine but it isn't supposed to behave like that and undo my changes.
What's wrong? Do I need another kernel maybe? As I said I went back to stock completely and updatet through to L.
I believe I got whats causing the issue.
After deleting a system app and rebooting, I got a message saying that the phone was restored from an "unnormal behaviour". Does Lollipop bring some kind of system restore point that just automatically restores itself when "weird" things like host file alteration happens? If yes, how do I get rid of that?
This phone has always had system files protected since KitKat. You need a kernel mod to delete system apps.
Don't know why the ad blockers aren't working. Adaway is working fine for me on stock US Dev Edition rooted. You said you are using Adaway and AdFree? Are you actually using both at the same time? maybe they are interfering with each other?
No I meant it happens with both. Only use adaway now. They work but after a reboot the adblock is gone and I need to apply it again. In fact, AdAway says it's deactivated and AdFree says it's already up to date but ads show anyway and I need to install the fix again to get rid of them.
Can you maybe point me to a kernel mod? Would want to get rid of some bloatware.
Maybe I should try installing xposed and see if it's gone after a reboot.
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Can you maybe point me to a kernel mod? Would want to get rid of some bloatware.
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The thread is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2701816
But unfortunately, flar2 hasn't had the time to update for LP. A user posted the kernel module in Post #210, but a subsequent user said it doesn't work. Custom ROMs have write protection disabled, as does Dev Edition stock ROM.
fBx said:
No I meant it happens with both. Only use adaway now. They work but after a reboot the adblock is gone and I need to apply it again. In fact, AdAway says it's deactivated and AdFree says it's already up to date but ads show anyway and I need to install the fix again to get rid of them.
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Odd, as mentioned, I've used AdAway for quite some time now, and don't have these issues.
Yes, very odd indeed. Well, if I don't get it sorted out somehow I might as well switch to Viper or some other close to stock custom Rom again, or make it Dev like you.
Things are getting worse, in 1 of 2 cases AdAway spits an error at me when trying to apply the fixes and the phone just reboots and undos everything. It's like some protection from rooting or changing anything although I am rooted. I don't understand it. I can't possibly be the only one having problems with root on Stock Lollipop
This is really annoying me. I think I'm better of just installing a custom rom and setting the phone up again, will cost me an hour but at least I'm done with the bugs.
Yup, decided to jump the gun, wipe and install ViperOne and now everything works as I wanted it to. AdAway stays active and working.
fBx said:
Yup, decided to jump the gun, wipe and install ViperOne and now everything works as I wanted it to. AdAway stays active and working.
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Interesting. I wonder if Adaway is dependent on the system write protection being disabled. I wouldn't normally suspect that, and only thinking of it since you mentioned the system write protection issue as well.
On the other hand, its the only difference I can think of between my phone and yours that would matter. I am on stock rooted Dev Edition, which apparently does not have the system write protection enabled by default.
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Interesting. I wonder if Adaway is dependent on the system write protection being disabled. I wouldn't normally suspect that, and only thinking of it since you mentioned the system write protection issue as well.
On the other hand, its the only difference I can think of between my phone and yours that would matter. I am on stock rooted Dev Edition, which apparently does not have the system write protection enabled by default.
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I also assume that's the reason. I've never been on a stock rom since I don't know when, but figured that actually I only wanted AdAway which would normally not require a custom rom per se... but as it didn't really work in the end (and also other root-requiring stuff), I went back to custom again. Well, it's not that it's that difficult to wipe the phone occasionally and set up a clean custom rom to get it back to perfect performance. Gonna go with it.
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Hey all, I have the GOOD app for my corp email, and it now checks for root, and boots me everytime I try to install it. I had off and on problems with my Nexus S with that, but I figured it was on their end as it would work fine for a few weeks.
Anyway, I cannot get it to open with my rooted SGS3. I am stock ROM, just rooted. Do I have to live in a stock world now if I want work email on my phone (which I kinda have to have). No way to hide that from that app?
If I do, what is the best way to unroot without losing all my apps and data? I dont think I can use ti backup on a non-rooted phone.
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Hey all, I have the GOOD app for my corp email, and it now checks for root, and boots me everytime I try to install it. I had off and on problems with my Nexus S with that, but I figured it was on their end as it would work fine for a few weeks.
Anyway, I cannot get it to open with my rooted SGS3. I am stock ROM, just rooted. Do I have to live in a stock world now if I want work email on my phone (which I kinda have to have). No way to hide that from that app?
If I do, what is the best way to unroot without losing all my apps and data? I dont think I can use ti backup on a non-rooted phone.
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Not sure if it will work but you can try using supersu. You can set GOOD to deny root and disable notifications. Might work?
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Hey all, I have the GOOD app for my corp email, and it now checks for root, and boots me everytime I try to install it. I had off and on problems with my Nexus S with that, but I figured it was on their end as it would work fine for a few weeks.
Anyway, I cannot get it to open with my rooted SGS3. I am stock ROM, just rooted. Do I have to live in a stock world now if I want work email on my phone (which I kinda have to have). No way to hide that from that app?
If I do, what is the best way to unroot without losing all my apps and data? I dont think I can use ti backup on a non-rooted phone.
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Inside superuser app you can swype to the right and click temporary unroot... Not sure if this works but its worth a try...
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Inside superuser app you can swype to the right and click temporary unroot... Not sure if this works but its worth a try...
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Didn't think of that. Unfortunately no go.
Any other thoughts on either returning to stock with my apps/settings, it tricking the app?
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This must be a setting your company can adjust, because we use GOOD at my work, and it's working for me, on top of a totally custom, rooted ROM. My Good for enterprise version is 1.9.1.220
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Hey all, I have the GOOD app for my corp email, and it now checks for root, and boots me everytime I try to install it. I had off and on problems with my Nexus S with that, but I figured it was on their end as it would work fine for a few weeks.
Anyway, I cannot get it to open with my rooted SGS3. I am stock ROM, just rooted. Do I have to live in a stock world now if I want work email on my phone (which I kinda have to have). No way to hide that from that app?
If I do, what is the best way to unroot without losing all my apps and data? I dont think I can use ti backup on a non-rooted phone.
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coorsleftfield said:
This must be a setting your company can adjust, because we use GOOD at my work, and it's working for me, on top of a totally custom, rooted ROM. My Good for enterprise version is 1.9.1.220
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How about voodoo OTA rootkeeper, you can temp. unroot run app and simply reroot
Try this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1815070. Sounds perfect.
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Has anyone had any luck using tasker to rename/remove superuser (or supersu) on the launch of a specific app like this one that checks for root, and then auto restore root after tasker sees the app close?
(Yes I know tasker requires root to work but I'm asking if there has been some type of hack or mod to allow tasker to carry out root functions when it temporarily loses super(su/user))
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Neckberg said:
Hey all, I have the GOOD app for my corp email, and it now checks for root, and boots me everytime I try to install it. I had off and on problems with my Nexus S with that, but I figured it was on their end as it would work fine for a few weeks.
Anyway, I cannot get it to open with my rooted SGS3. I am stock ROM, just rooted. Do I have to live in a stock world now if I want work email on my phone (which I kinda have to have). No way to hide that from that app?
If I do, what is the best way to unroot without losing all my apps and data? I dont think I can use ti backup on a non-rooted phone.
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Any luck ? My company is not going to change the root policy so I eather have to avoid it or ...
what about the stock email app?
If you would be willing to use the stock app you could always try this http://db.tt/b6Svh2HB . Figured its worth mentioning
Hey!
I was faced with the very same issues using Good for Enterprise. The workaround I've used is:
- flash Siyah Kernel (S3 1.7 RC1, i think)
- setup dual boot with a couple ROMs (PA and Omega in my case).
- remove root on one of the ROMs and reboot
- boot into the unrooted ROM and install Good from scratch (and not via Titanium)
- thank the developers who came up with these fantastic ROMs and kernels on a daily basis
Good luck! Pun intended .
The way we do it is through a script that disabled root - it essentially renames su items the app looks for.
We also had to change permissions to disabled on GOOD for RECEIVE_BOOT_COMPLETED and READ_CALL_LOG
He then made two apk's in tasker that
A) Runs the disable root script and opens GOOD
B) Run the enable root script and opens SU as assurance that we have SU back
Now, there may be an easier way to run GOOD, but this works for us.
I'm running CM10. I believe he's running another JB rom.
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The way we do it is through a script that disabled root - it essentially renames su items the app looks for.
We also had to change permissions to disabled on GOOD for RECEIVE_BOOT_COMPLETED and READ_CALL_LOG
He then made two apk's in tasker that
A) Runs the disable root script and opens GOOD
B) Run the enable root script and opens SU as assurance that we have SU back
Now, there may be an easier way to run GOOD, but this works for us.
I'm running CM10. I believe he's running another JB rom.
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My dependency on GOOD is the only think keeping me from moving from stock to CM10. Could you share the script and apks that let you run GFE?
gnja can you share the script?
Here you go. GFE and root happy again.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2040163
somebody doing hardwork to make this happen. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2040163
personally its too cumbersome for me, so i opted for a fully stock 2nd device which i already have.
it can also be an excuse for buying a new phone, and making your existing phone revert back to full stock just for the purpose.
or maybe buy a cheap used but decent & certified phone like Xperia Arc for the purpose.
I received the notification to update this morning to 4.4, however the update started to apply, it kicked it out with a suspected root error. Before applying the update, I had already uninstalled Xposed and unrooted my phone, so I am not sure what set off the root checker. I was wondering what my options were at this point. I know I can flash back to stock, but I would like to avoid this if at all possible. Are there any alternatives, or will I be forced to flash back to stock?
Thanks in advance for your help.
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I received the notification to update this morning to 4.4, however the update started to apply, it kicked it out with a suspected root error. Before applying the update, I had already uninstalled Xposed and unrooted my phone, so I am not sure what set off the root checker. I was wondering what my options were at this point. I know I can flash back to stock, but I would like to avoid this if at all possible. Are there any alternatives, or will I be forced to flash back to stock?
Thanks in advance for your help.
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I'm having exactly the same issue. I used the one click root method and have unrooted using full unroot in SuperSu.
But it appears full unroot per SuperSu is not enough? I tried root checker in Play Store and it says I am not rooted.
When I run the install it takes a long time to download and gave 0x13e error after the reboot while upgrading.
I also tried the LG PC Suite but it says my phone has the most current version, that is weird...
This OTA seems to be very picky as I was able to update in January 2014 fully rooted....
I wonder if I need to flash the IOT and go through the hassle of reinstalling all apps and config....that's a lot of hassle...
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I'm having exactly the same issue. I used the one click root method and have unrooted using full unroot in SuperSu.
But it appears full unroot per SuperSu is not enough? I tried root checker in Play Store and it says I am not rooted.
When I run the install it takes a long time to download and gave 0x13e error after the reboot while upgrading.
I also tried the LG PC Suite but it says my phone has the most current version, that is weird...
This OTA seems to be very picky as I was able to update in January 2014 fully rooted....
I wonder if I need to flash the IOT and go through the hassle of reinstalling all apps and config....that's a lot of hassle...
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It is very strange but if I try update recovery it says my battery does not have enough charge. (but battery is at 100%).
I even bought a new battery. I did disable carrier iq spying service before I unroot.
Do I have to enable carrier iq spy in order to upgrade?
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It is very strange but if I try update recovery it says my battery does not have enough charge. (but battery is at 100%).
I even bought a new battery. I did disable carrier iq spying service before I unroot.
Do I have to enable carrier iq spy in order to upgrade?
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Your phone needs to be 100% stock in order for OTA updates to work. This means:
no custom recovery (CWM, TWRP, etc)
all bloatware must be present
you can't be rooted
all system services must be like stock (this includes carrier IQ, so yes, it needs to be reenabled).
If you can't get the OTA to update after fixing everything, try flashing this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2760895
This IS the ATT stock ROM, but mildly debloated. The creator only debloated things that could be installed via the Play Store though (like Google Music, Newstand, Books, etc), so there isn't anything like the remote app or something missing.
I flashed this version because I'm too lazy to try and return my phone to pure stock just to get the OTA and then have to reflash root and a custom recovery. Too much work for me.
EDIT: I'm not too sure what's going on with your recovery... I hope someone else can answer that for you.
The easiest thing to do is just flash the 4.4.2 Rom found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2760895
This route saves allot of time having to flash back to pure stock, wait for your phone to receive the update again, and your phone taking forever to download said update.
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If you can't get the OTA to update after fixing everything, try flashing this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2760895
This IS the ATT stock ROM, but mildly debloated. The creator only debloated things that could be installed via the Play Store though (like Google Music, Newstand, Books, etc), so there isn't anything like the remote app or something missing.
I flashed this version because I'm too lazy to try and return my phone to pure stock just to get the OTA and then have to reflash root and a custom recovery. Too much work for me.
EDIT: I'm not too sure what's going on with your recovery... I hope someone else can answer that for you.
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Thanks a lot. This is my wife's phone so she'd rather not to update if a data wipe is required. She's actually quite happy with 4.1.
Anything extra would only be a "good to have". I think I'll keep it on 4.1 until she switches to another phone.
I did download the slightly customized stock rom so that it could be updated in the future.
In fact, I still have stock recovery and the only reason I rooted was to disable carrier iq because it was doing funny things with the GPS, very annoying.
There is no other way to disable carrier iq without rooting...unfortunately...
View92612 said:
Thanks a lot. This is my wife's phone so she'd rather not to update if a data wipe is required. She's actually quite happy with 4.1.
Anything extra would only be a "good to have". I think I'll keep it on 4.1 until she switches to another phone.
I did download the slightly customized stock rom so that it could be updated in the future.
In fact, I still have stock recovery and the only reason I rooted was to disable carrier iq because it was doing funny things with the GPS, very annoying.
There is no other way to disable carrier iq without rooting...unfortunately...
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If you flash that ROM over her current stock ROM, it should act just like an OTA update and replace the JB OS with the KK OS. It should also replace JB version Google apps with KK ones too.
If you decide to do this, you will need to do 3 things:
1) Make a backup just in case, but then copy the backup to your PC
2) Backup the internal SD to a PC and then format the internal storage. (see *2 below as to why)
3) After the flash, you will need to install the apk from the following thread and use it to install a Kitkat compatible CWM. If you don't while in recovery at any time, you may get stuck in what's called the Recovery Bootloop. Basically, every time you try to reboot the phone into the system (whether from a powered off state or from recovery), you will always go back to recovery.
The only bad thing about this recovery is that it can't read external SD cards, so anything you want to flash/backup will need to be stored on internal storage.
*2) Kitkat uses a different directory system for internal storage. If you were to not wipe the internal SD and managed to get the OTA working, it would wipe the drive for you automatically (which means all your data would be gone!).
However, with this flashable stock ROM, what will happen instead, is that all your data will remain, but will be hidden from view/access. If you have root, you can get it and move it, but it's a pain. Otherwise, your files are hidden from you, yet the system reads X amount of your internal storage as being occupied by "Miscellaneous" files, yet shows that nothing is there.
So just backup the files, then format the internal storage (which will leave her apps alone) before updating. Then flash that ROM and then copy the files back over.
All this is up to you and your wife as to whether or not you deem it to be worth the effort.
Is anyone else getting prompted for a system update? I'm rooted so I don't want to install. Update is 154.6 MB.
UPDATE: DO NOT install the update if you don't have stock recovery. You will end up in a boot loop.
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Lol I just created a thread myself! I am rooted and custom rom so I am totally waiting.
i just got it too, it said android update but I'm not entirely sure what it's for
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Is anyone else getting prompted for a system update? I'm rooted so I don't want to install. Update is 154.6 MB.
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I also did, I am on sky rom and it probably won't work, but I don't want to try to install it.
Well its quite a small update at 154 mb
Installed update
Hey guys I just installed the update and it broke my root :cyclops:
Were you able to root again?
Apparently it's D85110m update. So it's updating from D85110c to m. The person that I saw that updated hadn't rooted so no clue on the rooting thing.
Count me in the group with system update notification. I got rid of it by installing xposed module GravityBox, going under status bar settings - ongoing notification blocker - Google Play services (picture looks like that of update) - reboot.
I don't know what other notifications this may block, but for now, it gets rid of that. Also of note, I would NOT take the OTA. Usually it breaks root and/or bootloops you.
HELP
So in my half awake brilliance, I installed the update. My phone is now boot cycling to the TWRP recovery. Any ideas?
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Were you able to root again?
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I haven't tried to re-root yet. I was rooted with stump root earlier. Stump root doesn't work again because it thinks that my phone is already rooted. I'm going to do some light battery tests before trying to root again, this time with purple drake.
Maybe i might restore the slimkat alpha and hide there until this gets sorted out
I decided not to update to fear my bootloader/root so I tried to extract this with file manager and kept crashing. I can only post the name of the file but above users are correct contains 10m from 10c hopefully devs can find out exactly what's in the update. b1847cae892006ffa11c6822a408fe8528142a54.D85110c_00-D85110m_00_update.zip
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So in my half awake brilliance, I installed the update. My phone is now boot cycling to the TWRP recovery. Any ideas?
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I would try and follow this guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2818667
Wonder if i could do a restore and keep wifi off so it won't download
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I would try and follow this guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2818667
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Will this reset the phone? Will I lose all data?
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Will this reset the phone? Will I lose all data?
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I believe so yes. But if you are truly bootlooping, I don't believe you have many (if any) other choices than wiping clean and starting fresh.
I'm all stock so I upgraded.
It is in fact D85110m
I've only had it up and running for a few minutes and I already noticed two things.
- There is a slider feature added to the lock screen to instantly open the camera.
- I didn't think the phone was sluggish or laggy out of the box but I immediately could tell it runs smoother now with transitions between screens/apps. e.g. There used to be a bit of lag when opening the Recent Apps. Not anymore.
We'll see how it goes.
The IR blaster works better for me now. I guess the update made it more powerful somehow.
if you have twrp installed or have modified /system you should not take this OTA. if on twrp things will get weird(as evidenced above..) and if removing/modding any default files in /system the zip will most likely fail.. as it checks for all original files first before the OTA update gets patched in.
as for the twrp issue.. I can only assume that it's due to the update/phone expecting stock recovery... and not getting it. there are flags set in the phone that tell the phone what mode to boot into... since you dont have stock recovery the phone is confused. check out this thread - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2451696
the fota and misc partitions are tied to this... try to zero out fota first. if that alone doesnt let you out of twrp... you may need to wipe misc. be sure to backup any partition to computer(dont just save on phone sdcard.. never know when it could get wiped..) before erasing anything.
as for this update(10m)... anyone taking it should be careful that the bootloader/downgrades have not been locked/blocked. I'll be waiting for others to take that risk first before even considering taking the ota.
*update* can confirm update is safe.. bootloader is not locked.. still rootable.
as for root... I doubt purple drake is blocked.. but is possible. I'm very sure Stump is still available as an option(tho app may need update).
if you got the update and dont want to take it.. and want the notification gone you should be able to use a file explorer to delete the update zip from the the /cache directory... as well as rename the LGFOTA.apk file in /system to LGFOTA.apk.bak.
I can also confirm that disabling OTA updates in the hidden menu works. the moment I set it back to "on" (i set mine to off day 1) and rebooted the update came in.
d851 hidden menu > wlan test > ota setting > off > reboot (if you have been notified of an available update do NOT reboot until you have deleted the ota zip first)
Figured I would start here in my device thread before trying the SuperSU thread.
Anybody have issues with SuperSU since the last few updates ago?
SuperSU does not even open. Root-dependent apps do not open. Titanium sits there at the initial screen "asking for root rights" until I kill the app. AdAway does not open... just goes right to a black screen until I kill the app. AdAway seems to work though, as my web surfing does not have ads.
I've also tried manually going in and applying the latest update via (philz) recovery.
Would I be safe to roll back to an older version of SuperSU?
Mods... if you're going to gun the thread, please at least point me in the right direction as I did search, but did not find anything related to recent issues on the Note 2 for SuperSU.
TIA for help and suggestions.
Oh yeah its still sitting in the play store. I lost root the last couple updates ago. I had to re flash my rom and start over.
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Oh yeah its still sitting in the play store. I lost root the last couple updates ago. I had to re flash my rom and start over.
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As part of my search, I did see Chainfire mention in his "fix" thread that some apps like wanam can cause issues. Of course, I have xsposed installed, so that could be the issue.
Do you (or did you) also have xsposed installed as well?
I have tried older versions of SU, uninstalling via philz then redownloading from Play - which now tells me the binaries are out of date and can't be done by SU, and I need to re-root.
Think I might try one of the other SuperUser apps "just to see how it works", or if it does.
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As part of my search, I did see Chainfire mention in his "fix" thread that some apps like wanam can cause issues. Of course, I have xsposed installed, so that could be the issue.
Do you (or did you) also have xsposed installed as well?
I have tried older versions of SU, uninstalling via philz then redownloading from Play - which now tells me the binaries are out of date and can't be done by SU, and I need to re-root.
Think I might try one of the other SuperUser apps "just to see how it works", or if it does.
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For me, I just reflashed the ROM I was running at the time and that resolved it. Of course seeing that the update was " fixed" I attempted it and lost root again. I then did the same as before, wiped and relashed. I didn't do clean installs either time. Just wiped caches and reflashed. That sucks if you have to re-root. I mean, it's easy and all but it shouldn't have to be done.
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Before attempting any drastic measures (i.e., full wipe and reinstallation of the ROM), try this. This trick usually works for me.
Open your Application Manager, and locate your SuperSU application. Turn it off (i.e., click the "Turn Off" button). It may prompt you that updates are about to be uninstalled; that's ok. Download "BETA-SuperSU-v2.25.zip" and verify the MD5. Reboot into recovery and flash this file. Reboot and re-enable the SuperSU application from the Application Manager (it will be easy to find this time - scroll all the way over to the right, under "Turned Off"). Open SuperSU and it should let you reinstall the binaries.
Recently I've inexplicably lost root a number of times, and the above method has fixed it for me every time.
DJ_Barcode said:
Before attempting any drastic measures (i.e., full wipe and reinstallation of the ROM), try this. This trick usually works for me.
Open your Application Manager, and locate your SuperSU application. Turn it off (i.e., click the "Turn Off" button). It may prompt you that updates are about to be uninstalled; that's ok. Download "BETA-SuperSU-v2.25.zip" and verify the MD5. Reboot into recovery and flash this file. Reboot and re-enable the SuperSU application from the Application Manager (it will be easy to find this time - scroll all the way over to the right, under "Turned Off"). Open SuperSU and it should let you reinstall the binaries.
Recently I've inexplicably lost root a number of times, and the above method has fixed it for me every time.
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Thanks for the try. Did not work though.
Looks like I just need to re-flash the ROM.
My problem was odd. Before I discovered the aforementioned trick, I'd re-root with Chainfire or Kingo. I'd reboot, and my device would be rooted. But those two methods have an additional payload - they flash the stock recovery. So I'd ODIN the Philz Touch recovery back to the device, reboot, and root would be gone. Never figured out what was going on.
Yup. Issues with new version. Only last 2 or three updates.
They seemed to be perfectly fine with cm12 though.
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Thanks for all of the input.
After doing a full wipe, and then re-loading Classic Stock 4.4.2, life is good again! Back to running awesome for a few weeks now.
Having said that, I did want to follow-up and ask others what current version of SuperSU you are on. As of right now, I am still on v2.01 (which is what was packaged with the ROM) and have not updated yet. Only other versions of SuperSU I have zips downloaded for are: 2.25 from post above, 2.36, and 2.37.
Any suggestions or confirmations on which newer/more recent versions will not bork my root status? Or which versions to definitely stay away from trying to use?
Thanks, and I appreciate any help and suggestions!
lennykravitz2004 said:
Thanks for all of the input.
After doing a full wipe, and then re-loading Classic Stock 4.4.2, life is good again! Back to running awesome for a few weeks now.
Having said that, I did want to follow-up and ask others what current version of SuperSU you are on. As of right now, I am still on v2.01 (which is what was packaged with the ROM) and have not updated yet. Only other versions of SuperSU I have zips downloaded for are: 2.25 from post above, 2.36, and 2.37.
Any suggestions or confirmations on which newer/more recent versions will not bork my root status? Or which versions to definitely stay away from trying to use?
Thanks, and I appreciate any help and suggestions!
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The actual issue is not superuser or the updates. The issue is 4.4.2 and the original way we (ROM devs) had to implement superuser.
There are two routes to take to keep from losing root. The easiest for most users is to turn off auto updates and not to update superuser (app or binaries). The second is more difficult for the average user. Do a complete removal of superuser and install the latest.
I suggest the first way for everyone. It is simple and fool proof.
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The actual issue is not superuser or the updates. The issue is 4.4.2 and the original way we (ROM devs) had to implement superuser.
There are two routes to take to keep from losing root. The easiest for most users is to turn off auto updates and not to update superuser (app or binaries). The second is more difficult for the average user. Do a complete removal of superuser and install the latest.
I suggest the first way for everyone. It is simple and fool proof.
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As always, thanks for your response. Your recommendation is what I've been doing, just wanted to follow-up on this and see if there was anything else I needed to consider or change as well.
My main concern was to make sure I was not going to run into any "big" issues (especially security) by staying on current version. Thanks for explaining where the issue really lies on this too. I'm obviously not a dev, however I do want to understand what is exactly going on and responses like yours always provide that type of info. :good: Thank you.
And, FWIW, using "fool proof" to describe a process only makes me more curious (and no, not in that way) about your suggestion. :laugh:
Now I HAVE to find out more about that option... (only after some of the best BBQ in all of the land - Sugarfire BBQ in STL )
jlmancuso said:
The actual issue is not superuser or the updates. The issue is 4.4.2 and the original way we (ROM devs) had to implement superuser.
There are two routes to take to keep from losing root. The easiest for most users is to turn off auto updates and not to update superuser (app or binaries). The second is more difficult for the average user. Do a complete removal of superuser and install the latest.
I suggest the first way for everyone. It is simple and fool proof.
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How do you disable auto update of binary on SuperSU? I keep seeing it in the notification bar, very annoying.
Device Info: Sprint Galaxy Note 2 Running rooted stock Android 4.4.2. (chainfire auto root using odin)
Wifi only unit. I have no sprint contract purchased it used (I'm new to customizing android- I have flashed an old palm pda, but only via guidance)
Situation: Rooted the unit and have customized it as mine
1. No custom backup and would like to do that
2. Do not like all the bloatware apps
3. Now a system update has been downloaded asking to install (I've not okayed it)
So please help me with each of these
1. Please point me in the direction of best way to take a backup of existing rom ( I do have philz downloaded, but I'm not sure about how to ?
2. Would that deal with the persistent update request? Would it be good to update?
3. and then the bloatware removal, should I use an app that removes system apps? ( I have titanium, but I'm not good at knowing which apps to touch and not to touch) Thanks in advance and no I'm not in a hurry as yet.
Hi,
I will have your thread moved to your device section so the experts who own your device can help you.
Good luck!
Point to links please
If someone doesn't want to tackle this whole question I'd just appreciate links on how to step by step. I'd appreciate any help at all, I'm just a bit fearful of bricking the device, but if the instructions are clear I can definitely do this.
The first is issue is backup that is my priority at the moment. The second is whether to install the update or not and how to get rid of the nag. thanks
Not sure about backing up the ROM itself... but what I do is just back up the apps with Titanium and then re-load the apps (or just data) when I have to re-install my ROM like I did a couple of weeks ago. Prior to the Note II, I had an HTC Hero (stop laughing) and would do nandroids for that device. Don't know that you need that for Samsung devices, but somebody may be better to explain than I am.
ETA: here's an article on creating a nandroid, FWIW
http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/what-is-a-nandroid-backup-and-how-exactly-does-it-work/
If you are rooted, I don't know that the persistent update will actually apply/install. I'm on Classic Stock 4.4.2 and I also had the same nag. Here's a link on how to disable the update nag. This is what I did, as my phone would not apply the update so I just disabled the persistent reminder using the steps below.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2442207
With respect to removing system apps, not sure I can offer much direction other than to suggest removing obvious apps (maybe like the Sprint Zone app) and then just doing a search on each app that looks like you can/want to delete or uninstall. Probably a bit time consuming, however, I am not aware of a "bloatware list" or anything which outlines safe-to-remove apps.
Much appreciated Lenny
When I did the root, I didn't really want a custom rom, just stock with root. Now that I've used titanium backup and have removed the install update nag- I'm set for a while!
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Much appreciated Lenny
When I did the root, I didn't really want a custom rom, just stock with root. Now that I've used titanium backup and have removed the install update nag- I'm set for a while!
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You might also look at adding a free version of BusyBox (I use stericson's, and jrummy also has one out there).
Also might want to look at an install of AdAway, which you'll need to install manually (not available from the Play Store). You don't have to install the whole F-Droid package, you can download only the AdAway apk if you want.
https://f-droid.org/repository/browse/?fdid=org.adaway
One last piece of info, you may want to turn off automatic updating for apps, as the SuperSU app can have problems after an update and you might have to re-root your phone. Here's what I ran into.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=58955076&postcount=10
lennykravitz2004 said:
You might also look at adding a free version of BusyBox (I use stericson's, and jrummy also has one out there).
Also might want to look at an install of AdAway, which you'll need to install manually (not available from the Play Store). You don't have to install the whole F-Droid package, you can download only the AdAway apk if you want.
https://f-droid.org/repository/browse/?fdid=org.adaway
One last piece of info, you may want to turn off automatic updating for apps, as the SuperSU app can have problems after an update and you might have to re-root your phone. Here's what I ran into.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=58955076&postcount=10
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Thank you! I've side loaded adb adblock is adaway better? I use App Ops to turn off specific things within each app such as location finding, I like MW apps manager to add more apps to the multiwindow feature., and I've turned off most apps auto update, but some apps I've left auto update. I've just turned off auto update on super user -- even though, I've not yet experienced any major issues as yet.
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Thank you! I've side loaded adb adblock is adaway better? I use App Ops to turn off specific things within each app such as location finding, I like MW apps manager to add more apps to the multiwindow feature., and I've turned off most apps auto update, but some apps I've left auto update. I've just turned off auto update on super user -- even though, I've not yet experienced any major issues as yet.
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Don't know if adb adblock is better - I've never used it. Didn't see you mention a couple of these things when you said you were "all set for awhile", so I was just trying to offer a few other things to consider and look into. Sounds like you're already on the ball though!
Personally, I'm happy with stock. Big reason for me to root was getting rid of ads. I've tried some of the other ROMs but I've always come back to the stock look and feel. I've had the device since about 1 week after it came out in Fall 2012. Of course, I am also on my third one since I totaled two other ones. I absolutely love it, and am in no hurry to upgrade (if possible). Hope you enjoy it as I have... lots of good stuff from devs here!