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Is the OnePlus the best phone for ROM flashing addicts?

I'm seriously considering getting the OnePlus 3. I notice they give the ROM on their website, it's near stock Android, based on Cyanogenmod and (I believe) it doesn't have a warranty killswitch like Motorola or Samsung, etc. It makes it pretty easy to try other roms and just go back doesn't it?

Pretty much, yeah.

oxygen and cyanogen are both based on AOSP but oxygen isnt based on cyanogen i think.

yep

Yes, indeed it is the best phone for modding lovers!

First thing I did when I got this phone was unlock it flash a kernel overclock it and install a custom ROM lol

To some extent is true unless you feel the smoothness of Oxygen OS + Camera . I have tried almost all ROMs out there but I kept getting back to OOS.
I won't blame custom ROMs for camera ( waiting for camera blobs ) but for the smoothness. If you're ​like me , I bet you won't be flashing custom ROMs regularly.
You can flash Franco kernel for great battery life on stock , you can't do on others. Plus few customization mods on stock are a delight like changing clock positions , adding backgrounds to quick setting panel , and a 4 row panel!

yes absolutely, just as always u have to read and be careful... but yes it is so easy to unlock bootloader, root and custom recovery and has great dev support

shubhaemk said:
To some extent is true unless you feel the smoothness of Oxygen OS + Camera . I have tried almost all ROMs out there but I kept getting back to OOS.
I won't blame custom ROMs for camera ( waiting for camera blobs ) but for the smoothness. If you're ​like me , I bet you won't be flashing custom ROMs regularly.
You can flash Franco kernel for great battery life on stock , you can't do on others. Plus few customization mods on stock are a delight like changing clock positions , adding backgrounds to quick setting panel , and a 4 row panel!
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I think you might be confused here: stock OOS doesn't have features like change clock position or adding background to QS panel.
If you are speaking about flashable mods, well, that would fall within phone modding again.

Giocarro said:
I think you might be confused here: stock OOS doesn't have features like change clock position or adding background to QS panel.
If you are speaking about flashable mods, well, that would fall within phone modding again.
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Yes, but it won't fall under ROM flashing as the title asks.
I just gave him ways to customize OOS , cause if he wants to stick to stock and want custom ROM customization , not fully though ... Still 20% customization are possible.

shubhaemk said:
Yes, but it won't fall under ROM flashing as the title asks.
I just gave him ways to customize OOS , cause if he wants to stick to stock and want custom ROM customization , not fully though ... Still 20% customization are possible.
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shubhaemk said:
To some extent is true unless you feel the smoothness of Oxygen OS + Camera . I have tried almost all ROMs out there but I kept getting back to OOS.
I won't blame custom ROMs for camera ( waiting for camera blobs ) but for the smoothness. If you're ​like me , I bet you won't be flashing custom ROMs regularly.
You can flash Franco kernel for great battery life on stock , you can't do on others. Plus few customization mods on stock are a delight like changing clock positions , adding backgrounds to quick setting panel , and a 4 row panel!
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Yes but I was referring more to people (like me) who like to try new ROMs just for fun, not necessarily because something's missing on their devices. But thanks for the tips though!

Yes it is I learning every time new new thing when ever I flashing new ROM every 3 days i am become addicted to flashing new ROMs and finding new features. Right now I am using vertexos ROM with render kernel beta(pelt) variant it is really very neat ROM with fantastic kernel. Battery discharge is seriously amazing when I am using any application or ideal time discharge, seriously amazing.

Right now yes

This is the first phone where i didn't even bother to try a custom ROM. Stock OOS is working great out of the box minus some WiFi issues with my repeater.

abhibnl said:
This is the first phone where i didn't even bother to try a custom ROM. Stock OOS is working great out of the box minus some WiFi issues with my repeater.
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I agree I stuck with OOS too instead of going cyanogenmod, stock is great

YES!!

I'd say yea. Considering it boot loader unlocks like a Nexus and has recovery.. I got this first thing I did was flash AICP then as I went along I thought I'd give stock a try. Or rather a modified stock (freedomOS) and ever since I've tried going back to AICP RR etc but it just made me want to go back to stock. So my advice. Before you go flashing all the non stock roms. Give stock a chance or a stock based Rom. And browse the mod forums for the device. There's a lot of stock mods. The one plus team made it a point to add some minor features that make sense into the rom but it still feels like AOSP with some minor differences. The shelf is literally the only way I keep my life in order. If you want me to go more in detail feel free to pm me I'll answer any questions
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You can always make backups and go back and forth. I do indeed like the stock ROM, but it doesn't support OSM and being able to theme apps, as well as system, is something I like. Right now, I am running AOSP-Extended.

About to recieve a OnePlus 3. Anything I should need to know?

I bought this device today.
I got it because I wanted to get into custom ROMs/Root.
Is there anything I need to know about this phone that will be helpful? Tips & Tricks?
Also I hear talk of Lineage OS vs Oxygen. Which is better and why? (Please don't be LINEAGE OF COURSE FTW, I want reasons. Couldn't find that anywhere)
Should I chose Oxygen beta 8.0, or the Lineage beta for 8.0?
Coming from an LG V10 (AT&T) where I couldn't modify it for ****, and broke after a little over a year (LG Bootloop issue)

ZVNexus said:
I bought this device today.
I got it because I wanted to get into custom ROMs/Root.
Is there anything I need to know about this phone that will be helpful? Tips & Tricks?
Also I hear talk of Lineage OS vs Oxygen. Which is better and why? (Please don't be LINEAGE OF COURSE FTW, I want reasons. Couldn't find that anywhere)
Should I chose Oxygen beta 8.0, or the Lineage beta for 8.0?
Coming from an LG V10 (AT&T) where I couldn't modify it for ****, and broke after a little over a year (LG Bootloop issue)
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The ROM you want to use can only be your decision based on what features you want for example if you want loads of tweaking features then I'd suggest resurrection remix and for the very latest android version then oxygen OS or lineage 8.0 both are good in their own ways you'd have to check the description to see which suits your needs , one big tip I can give you though is to always use the latest blu_spark recovery because its been modified to support a variety of ROMs and if your a flashaholic like me then always perform a nandroid backup before switching ROMs its simple advice but can save you loads of time if you don't like the ROM you've chosen and obviously before trying to unlock the bootloader via adb then enable developer options and enable OEM unlocking (some people forget) good luck and enjoy this wicked phone...

Xceeder said:
The ROM you want to use can only be your decision based on what features you want for example if you want loads of tweaking features then I'd suggest resurrection remix and for the very latest android version then oxygen OS or lineage 8.0 both are good in their own ways you'd have to check the description to see which suits your needs , one big tip I can give you though is to always use the latest blu_spark recovery because its been modified to support a variety of ROMs and if your a flashaholic like me then always perform a nandroid backup before switching ROMs its simple advice but can save you loads of time if you don't like the ROM you've chosen and obviously before trying to unlock the bootloader via adb then enable developer options and enable OEM unlocking (some people forget) good luck and enjoy this wicked phone...
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Ah ok thanks for that blu_spark bit, I was just gonna stick with stock kernel, but now I am seeing the benefits of custom ones.

ZVNexus said:
Ah ok thanks for that blu_spark bit, I was just gonna go TWRP since that's all I have heard about, I got drawn in by the LG V10 by marketing, sucked so now going towards a phone that will last. Not having to rely on AT&T for updates is a surefire way to get that.
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I had an LG G4 , great phone but I too suffered the bootloop problem and LG did nothing to refund me so no more LG phones for me , p.s please leave a thumbs up on my posts if I've helped I truly appreciate it and if you need any more help just come back to this post and quote my message and I'll help as best I can ...

ZVNexus said:
I bought this device today.
I got it because I wanted to get into custom ROMs/Root.
Is there anything I need to know about this phone that will be helpful? Tips & Tricks?
Also I hear talk of Lineage OS vs Oxygen. Which is better and why? (Please don't be LINEAGE OF COURSE FTW, I want reasons. Couldn't find that anywhere)
Should I chose Oxygen beta 8.0, or the Lineage beta for 8.0?
Coming from an LG V10 (AT&T) where I couldn't modify it for ****, and broke after a little over a year (LG Bootloop issue)
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Flash Zenity RR as soon as you get a chance! It's an awesome ROM.

ZVNexus said:
Ah ok thanks for that blu_spark bit, I was just gonna stick with stock kernel, but now I am seeing the benefits of custom ones.
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Xceeder was talking about recovery, not kernel. Since this phone is new for you, certain idiosyncrasies of this phone must be learnt. One of them is the recovery. Ofcourse official TWRP is there but it will not work with many custom ROMs. One of the best recoveries for this phone is made by bluspark who is well-known for his kernels. It is that recovery which Xceeder was talking about. I also use the same.
As regards ROMs, apart from what Xceeder stated, if you are satisfied with a smooth and battery friendly ROM, I can recommend VertexOS. But it will not have any bells or whistles. Another battery friendly and smooth ROM with some tweaks built-in is PureFusion. Both these I have used. But if you need many tweaks, go with Xceeder's recommendations. As he said, ROMs are a personal choice and what I like, you may not. So read about a few, flash a few and finalise.
Advance wishes for a happy experience.

tnsmani said:
Xceeder was talking about recovery, not kernel. Since this phone is new for you, certain idiosyncrasies of this phone must be learnt. One of them is the recovery. Ofcourse official TWRP is there but it will not work with many custom ROMs. One of the best recoveries for this phone is made by bluspark who is well-known for his kernels. It is that recovery which Xceeder was talking about. I also use the same.
As regards ROMs, apart from what Xceeder stated, if you are satisfied with a smooth and battery friendly ROM, I can recommend VertexOS. But it will not have any bells or whistles. Another battery friendly and smooth ROM with some tweaks built-in is PureFusion. Both these I have used. But if you need many tweaks, go with Xceeder's recommendations. As he said, ROMs are a personal choice and what I like, you may not. So read about a few, flash a few and finalise.
Advance wishes for a happy experience.
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Ah ok only reason I said kernel was because [kernel] was the first thing that came up when I typed in blu_spark.

Regular TWRP vs Codeworkx

My 5T will be arriving today (coming from the Moto X Pure Edition...just under 2 years old. Yucky!) and I'm reading about rooting. ADB/oem unlocking/fastboot/etc. are familiar territory for me. I just wanted to make sure of something quick: I saw the guide saying to get Codeworkx TWRP, but I also see TWRP has a dumpling recovery image. I'm kind of thinking regular TWRP is fine, but I'm always careful when unlocking bootloader/custom recovery/rooting. I figured I'd ask just to be sure.

The official TWRP has always had issues with encryption on this device. Basically it's been behind the curve on updates. Last I heard it's gotten better, but it's generally still recommended to use Codeworkx or Blu's version. Personally I'm using Codeworkx.
[RECOVERY][dumpling] TWRP 3.2.3 by codeworkx

Blu seems to be more updated at the moment and has Amoled, and Treble support for 5.1.5.
Not sure if codeworkx has amoled and treble...
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5t/development/kernel-t3706295
DOWNLOAD KERNEL ZIP and RECOVERY
https://forum.xda-developers.com/devdb/project/?id=21949#downloads
twrp-3.2.3-x_blu_spark_v9.85_treble-op5_op5t.img works really nice for me on 5.1.5

Thanks for the replies! :highfive: I went with blu's version and have had no problems. I think I read somewhere (I can't find it agian, obviously...) that for a nandroid backup all screen lock safety has to be removed or encryption will prevent a restore. Would this be accurate? There's a lot of new stuff I'm trying to get used to with my 5T, coming from a closer to stock Android MXPE, especially the world of encryption. I wanted to try out some custom ROMs and wanted to make sure if I didn't like it I could restore to OOS easy. Apologies if there's a guide somewhere on the 5T forums...I've had this for 2 days now. Love it.
Another question about custom ROMs; are they as snappy as OOS? Every other Android phone I've had sacrificed speed for customization with custom ROMs. I miss the closer to stock Android look, but it's no deal breaker. I also really miss the option to make the volume buttons only control media. I tried Gravitybox for Oreo (Magisk + Systemless Xposed), but it wouldn't work.

@Moppusan with experience anything is just as snappy as anything else...
I deblot OOS and run microG on it, then if you know your way around Kernels, you can stick in EX Kernel Manager, or Kernel Adiutor and tweak up the stock kernel and get it smoother, or faster, overclock, get real crazy... RenderZenith seems like a nice kernel for OOS, it's a newer kernel version with newer features that seem to perform over stock.
It seems like, if OnePlus gave us a newer kernel version then we could have some nice newer kernel features in a stock kernel. OOS 5.1.5 is on 4.4.78 So maybe the next release of OOS will see a nicer more up to date version... Maybe some one running the latest beta can tell us what version it's on?
I'm getting ready to put up a guide, hopefully in a few weeks about doing the debloating and microG on OOS.
Remember OOS is a Custom Rom, from OnePlus...

@DoR3M3, well...yeah that is another way to look at it. OOS being a custom ROM.
I'm probably in the intermediate level of Kernel knowledge. I bought the pro/premium/donate/whatever-he-calls-it version of Kernel Adiutor and have read plenty of guides on cpu/gpu governors, hot plugs, over/underclocking, input boost, voltage, storage...governors?, net congestion and blah blah blah. I think the only thing that's really over my head is the tunables for the cpu governors. I've just found settings other people have tested and try it myself.

It would be great seeing such a guide ! Was thinking about a journey into the mirco land but my laziness holds me back :/

Moppusan said:
@DoR3M3, well...yeah that is another way to look at it. OOS being a custom ROM.
I'm probably in the intermediate level of Kernel knowledge. I bought the pro/premium/donate/whatever-he-calls-it version of Kernel Adiutor and have read plenty of guides on cpu/gpu governors, hot plugs, over/underclocking, input boost, voltage, storage...governors?, net congestion and blah blah blah. I think the only thing that's really over my head is the tunables for the cpu governors. I've just found settings other people have tested and try it myself.
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OOS is a Custom ROM, the only difference is that OnePlus is a manufacture, and because of Google's licensing, has to include the Gapps. But, I wonder if OnePlus can put up OOS for download on their site, that is GappsFree, now that would be nice!
If you're not running Linux and you are into Android, I highly recommend it. Of course there are things specific to Android, but it comes from Linux and running Linux makes the journey easier.
AlMustansir said:
It would be great seeing such a guide ! Was thinking about a journey into the mirco land but my laziness holds me back :/
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I'm still working on it, been typing away on it today. Also added in an extra section for the Privacy Geeks, I figured out how to do the Play Store anonymously for getting paid apps...

DoR3M3 said:
OOS is a Custom ROM, the only difference is that OnePlus is a manufacture, and because of Google's licensing, has to include the Gapps. But, I wonder if OnePlus can put up OOS for download on their site, that is GappsFree, now that would be nice!
If you're not running Linux and you are into Android, I highly recommend it. Of course there are things specific to Android, but it comes from Linux and running Linux makes the journey easier.
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I've tried Linux many times and I just can't get into it. The biggest drawback is the lack of serious DAWs (Digital Audio Workstations, if you didn't know) and gaming support (I don't think my PC could handle running anything smoothly through Wine).

Moppusan said:
I've tried Linux many times and I just can't get into it. The biggest drawback is the lack of serious DAWs (Digital Audio Workstations, if you didn't know) and gaming support (I don't think my PC could handle running anything smoothly through Wine).
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If you need to be on Windows all the time, then run a VM like VirtualBox and run Linux on it, or dual boot Linux/Windows...

Moppusan said:
I've tried Linux many times and I just can't get into it. The biggest drawback is the lack of serious DAWs (Digital Audio Workstations, if you didn't know) and gaming support (I don't think my PC could handle running anything smoothly through Wine).
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Well, Steam play can run many games with almost same performance than on windows.

bleepsake

I've been a member since my first ever android device, HTC Wildfire Mini. I've rooted and installed custom ROMs since back then. Ever since grabbing my self a Pixel device I felt all my needs were catered for, until now.
I miss managing my standby time battery using Greenify and a custom kernel. Not that I don't get great standby time on my phone currently but I feel the itch to get tweaking again. haha oh I miss Viper4Android
I was wondering:
1. Can I still have root access and use Google Pay/mobile banking apps?
2. Xposed framework, is that still a thing? haha I used to love those little tweaks.
3. ROMs, what's everyone using?
4. I've not used Magisk before, can anyone point me in the right direction?
Thanks,

bleepsake said:
I've been a member since my first ever android device, HTC Wildfire Mini. I've rooted and installed custom ROMs since back then. Ever since grabbing my self a Pixel device I felt all my needs were catered for, until now.
I miss managing my standby time battery using Greenify and a custom kernel. Not that I don't get great standby time on my phone currently but I feel the itch to get tweaking again. haha oh I miss Viper4Android
I was wondering:
1. Can I still have root access and use Google Pay/mobile banking apps?
2. Xposed framework, is that still a thing? haha I used to love those little tweaks.
3. ROMs, what's everyone using?
4. I've not used Magisk before, can anyone point me in the right direction?
Thanks,
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Welcome Back!
1. Yes, google pay and most banking apps work but I believe it depends on what bank you use. (I use Chase)
2. Xposed is questionable at best for the moment, at least for Pie. It's still in beta for 8.1 and, as far as I know, Rovo89 hasn't mentioned any development in that regard
3. Personally, I prefer stock. I use elemental kernel, magisk modules and substratum.
4. Magisk is simple enough to use, but some have had issues since Pie. To get a general idea of how magisk works, start here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-2-xl/development/2017-11-6-root-pixel-2-xl-t3701176

bleepsake said:
I've been a member since my first ever android device, HTC Wildfire Mini. I've rooted and installed custom ROMs since back then. Ever since grabbing my self a Pixel device I felt all my needs were catered for, until now.
I miss managing my standby time battery using Greenify and a custom kernel. Not that I don't get great standby time on my phone currently but I feel the itch to get tweaking again. haha oh I miss Viper4Android
I was wondering:
1. Can I still have root access and use Google Pay/mobile banking apps?
2. Xposed framework, is that still a thing? haha I used to love those little tweaks.
3. ROMs, what's everyone using?
4. I've not used Magisk before, can anyone point me in the right direction?
Thanks,
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1. I personally don't use any banking apps for making payments but from doing some reading it seems most will work as long as you don't have the Xposed framework installed.
2. It is a thing up to Oreo. It is still in beta for Oreo, however when I used it I had no issues. It felt stable as far as I'm concerned. However, it did slow down my device a bit and I also found alternate apps for the Xposed mods I used.
3. I'm on Liquid Remix and I love it! HavocOS is really great too. I've been a long time Flash kernel user, but now that is EOL. I have now switched to Kirisakura.
4. You just need to download the Magisk zip from the official thread and flash it in recovery. After you reboot you'll see the Magisk Manager app and it's pretty straightforward and self-explanatory at that point!

So my phone is now rooted. Is is worth flashing a rom or keeping it as is?

Usually I root just to get access to certain apps and to install a HOSTS file. My Mi max 3 is rooted but for those of you that are also flashing roms for this phone is it really worth it? Is root enough to enjoy the phone? Seems to me you'd lose many features by using custom roms. Especially three finger swipe for screenshot. Unless some roms have that?
Also, does flashing a custom rom get ride of that aggressive Android battery management? All the battery apps have their sessions segmented up into sections so it's hard to understand just how much SOT you are getting and so on.

DelphinusMinor said:
Usually I root just to get access to certain apps and to install a HOSTS file. My Mi max 3 is rooted but for those of you that are also flashing roms for this phone is it really worth it? Is root enough to enjoy the phone? Seems to me you'd lose many features by using custom roms. Especially three finger swipe for screenshot. Unless some roms have that?
Also, does flashing a custom rom get ride of that aggressive Android battery management? All the battery apps have their sessions segmented up into sections so it's hard to understand just how much SOT you are getting and so on.
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Just enable Camera2API and install GCAM. You are good to go!

Thank you, I have Gcam already but forgot to enable Camera2API.

DelphinusMinor said:
Usually I root just to get access to certain apps and to install a HOSTS file. My Mi max 3 is rooted but for those of you that are also flashing roms for this phone is it really worth it? Is root enough to enjoy the phone? Seems to me you'd lose many features by using custom roms. Especially three finger swipe for screenshot. Unless some roms have that?
Also, does flashing a custom rom get ride of that aggressive Android battery management? All the battery apps have their sessions segmented up into sections so it's hard to understand just how much SOT you are getting and so on.
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It depends on what you want to do. There are many custom roms available all with different features.
Personally i find it to be worthwile, because it gets rid of all bloatware and other preinstalled software one might not want (battery drain/privacy/security).
Many custom roms have plenty of customization options, that includes gesture control.
there is an app for everything of course (say analyzing battery life and SOT), but i find it to be better if functionality works with the rom in the first place.
Figure out what you want (and absolutely do not want) out of your rom, and i'm fairly certain there will be a custom rom for you.

I have installed a custom rom already but i think that at this point no rom can match the fluidness of miui in our phone. There are some touch issues etc.
Also i would like to ask if anybody feels this way, i am thinking to revert back to miui

tisfomic said:
I have installed a custom rom already but i think that at this point no rom can match the fluidness of miui in our phone. There are some touch issues etc.
Also i would like to ask if anybody feels this way, i am thinking to revert back to miui
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I will have access to my bootloader this week, and will try out different roms. Will let you know.
Currently looking at AEX, crdroid and aosip as first candidates.

I have been using aosip for 4 months now, its pretty solid, and was the first nongsi rom for our phone. I look forward to your opinion since yours will be more fresh than what i can recall as difference.