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Why do these manufacturers insist on putting magnets in a case that holds a gps device with magnetic compass?! This completely throws off the compass heading and probably affects navigation too. The Incipio kickstand case is pretty nice, even if it does add a little too much bulk. I may just write the company and request a replacement case that does not have magnets, or otherwise try to remove the magnets myself.
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Well I'm about to get a case for mine, had been looking at one with magnets... Thanks for this thread, I wasn't aware magnets would cause such problems. One would assume that case manufacturers know what they are doing... geez.
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Well I'm about to get a case for mine, had been looking at one with magnets... Thanks for this thread, I wasn't aware magnets would cause such problems. One would assume that case manufacturers know what they are doing... geez.
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There is definitely a good chance that the magnets would interfere with the compass. Incipio replied and offered to exchange the case for one of their other ones, but I really like their folio case even if it's a bit thick. You are right though, the manufacturers need to be more aware that putting magnets in a tablet case is a big no-no! I don't know how much an inaccurate compass reading would affect navigation, but it does affect initial heading position when you get a gps fix. The compass in the xoom works really well though and doesn't always need calibrating like some others. Yet in a car with all that metal it can still throw the compass off..... I am just debating on attempting to remove the magnets from the case or just leaving it alone.
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Yeah it's really hard to find a good case that doesn't use magnets... I still haven't decided which one to get because of that lol.
One question came to me earlier - are you sure that the Xoom has a magnetic compass at all? I really don't know, when I first read your post it made sense, but now that I think about it - isn't the compass simply using two consecutive GPS positions (i.e. "1 second ago" + "right now") to determine the vector / direction of travel?
Apart from that, I'm not questioning the effect of magnets on computer hardware in general. I don't think that a magnet as tiny as the ones they build into cases could have any ill effect on hardware though.
It would be great if someone could chime in who has made an experience (good or bad) with a magnetic case - or maybe shed some more light on this...
Has anybody tried the tetrax mounts yet with their galaxy nexus? Before I purchase one I'm curious of two things.
1. How well does the the magnet stick to the battery door since the battery cover is textured? I have an extra cover that I'll use simply for this.
2. Does the magnet interfere with the NFC and/or screen at all?
In case your not sure what I'm referring to:
http://store.tetrax.us/xway-line/fixway
I have used this on other phones, including my G2, MyTouch 3G and G1 and it worked very well on all those phones. However, due to the textured back on the Galaxy Nexus, the metal button that stick to the battery door does not stay on. I have tried replacing the double sided tape with stronger automotive 3M tape, but that doesn't work either. It'll stay on for a little while and come back off. The only solution would be to find a battery door that is smooth.
I can't answer if it interferes with NFC or the screen, but it shouldn’t. If anything, it might interfere with the magnet on the compass, but that has not been the case with my other phones.
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I have used this on other phones, including my G2, MyTouch 3G and G1 and it worked very well on all those phones. However, due to the textured back on the Galaxy Nexus, the metal button that stick to the battery door does not stay on. I have tried replacing the double sided tape with stronger automotive 3M tape, but that doesn't work either. It'll stay on for a little while and come back off. The only solution would be to find a battery door that is smooth.
I can't answer if it interferes with NFC or the screen, but it shouldn’t. If anything, it might interfere with the magnet on the compass, but that has not been the case with my other phones.
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So you've actually tried it on the GNex and it don't stick very well? Did you by chance try holding it on there for several hours with a strong clamp or anything? I really want one of these but worried it's a waste of money with this phone
I have actually tried it, but not with a clamp. Just following the regular directions. On my other phones, it created a very strong bond and it takes a lot of effort to remove. With the Nexus, it stays on the first couple of times you mount it, but that's about it. It's not an issue with the weight, as the G2 feels twice as heavy as the Nexus, especially with an extra capacity battery. It's the texture on the battery door. It almost feels like it has a Teflon coating.
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I have actually tried it, but not with a clamp. Just following the regular directions. On my other phones, it created a very strong bond and it takes a lot of effort to remove. With the Nexus, it stays on the first couple of times you mount it, but that's about it. It's not an issue with the weight, as the G2 feels twice as heavy as the Nexus, especially with an extra capacity battery. It's the texture on the battery door. It almost feels like it has a Teflon coating.
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Would you mind holding up one of the magnets to the battery door and test out the NFC to see if it interferes with it (if you have the ability to). This is my main question as I could always put the magnet on a case I guess.
Thanks!
I don't have another NFC device to try it right now, but my brother has the Nexus S and I can try it when I see him later tonight. The magnet doesn't go on the battery door though. What you stick on the battery door is just a piece of metal. The actual magnet is on the device that you mount to your dash or vent, so unless you plan on using NFC while it's on your dash, it should not interfere.
Plus, NFC uses low power radio frequency to transfer information (similar to Bluetooth). It does not use magnets. The only thing in the phone that could be affected would be the compass, as it finds your relation to magnetic North. Even then, I'm sure the compass works through software and is not an actual magnet, as it has never affected GPS. As a matter of fact, I have 2 Tetrax products, the one that mounts to the dash, which I have in my car, and the one that you attach to the vent for when I use a rental on trips for the sole purpose of Navigation. As you can imagine, I was very disappointed when I could not get the metal button to stick. I might have to try it with a case also.
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I don't have another NFC device to try it right now, but my brother has the Nexus S and I can try it when I see him later tonight. The magnet doesn't go on the battery door though. What you stick on the battery door is just a piece of metal. The actual magnet is on the device that you mount to your dash or vent, so unless you plan on using NFC while it's on your dash, it should not interfere.
Plus, NFC uses low power radio frequency to transfer information (similar to Bluetooth). It does not use magnets. The only thing in the phone that could be affected would be the compass, as it finds your relation to magnetic North. Even then, I'm sure the compass works through software and is not an actual magnet, as it has never affected GPS. As a matter of fact, I have 2 Tetrax products, the one that mounts to the dash, which I have in my car, and the one that you attach to the vent for when I use a rental on trips for the sole purpose of Navigation. As you can imagine, I was very disappointed when I could not get the metal button to stick. I might have to try it with a case also.
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Awesome so yea I don't think it'll interfere because I was thinking the part you stick to the back of the phone is magnetic, but if your saying it's not all should be well. Either way I went ahead and ordered it yesterday anyway so I'll figure out a way to get it to stick to either the door or a case. Thanks for your insight!
Nope, it's just a metal button. It actually comes with 4 or 5 different ones of all sizes and styles.
I have this installed on my nexus, I put the mount on my dash and the NFC sticker on my knob for the ac that get covered up. Everytime I put my phone on the mount, the nfc changes it to car mode, volume up, full brightness and launches sirius xm radio...works very well, sometimes I have to move it a bit to get to read the nfc, but thats only cause i have the nfc a little too far at the bottom of the phone and it mounts at a slight angle, not due to any interference at all. I have NFC chips all around and never have problems reading them at all, probably a good idea not to mount the metal chip right in the middle of the battery area, just in case. I also used a clamp to hold it on for about 3 or 4 hours and has had little trouble sticking to the texture.
I have had a few incidents if I pull off the phone, rather than slide it off the backing will actually unclip a single clip.
@ejkeebler what do you mean by NFC stickers all around? Did you make stickers to automatically change your settings on your phone? That's brilliant! How did you do it?
I might also have to try a clamp. I don't really want to put a case on my phone.
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@ejkeebler what do you mean by NFC stickers all around? Did you make stickers to automatically change your settings on your phone? That's brilliant! How did you do it?
I might also have to try a clamp. I don't really want to put a case on my phone.
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I also have NFC stickers everywhere. have them when I walk in the front door of my house, one in my office at work, one in each vehicle, one in my wallet LOL. They are awesome. Set them to change settings or do tasker tasks and you can rewrite over them if you ever want to change anything. One of the best phone features I've ever used. That's why i was concerned about the magnets interfering with the NFC!
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I also have NFC stickers everywhere. have them when I walk in the front door of my house, one in my office at work, one in each vehicle, one in my wallet LOL. They are awesome. Set them to change settings or do tasker tasks and you can rewrite over them if you ever want to change anything. One of the best phone features I've ever used. That's why i was concerned about the magnets interfering with the NFC!
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Where can I get / how do I 'program' these NFC Stickers?? This sounds awesome.
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Where can I get / how do I 'program' these NFC Stickers?? This sounds awesome.
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A quick search came up with this: http://www.tagstand.com/
Seems like this could open up a whole line of fun options. Would love to hear how others have done it, though.
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Where can I get / how do I 'program' these NFC Stickers?? This sounds awesome.
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www.tagstand.com to purchase the tags. Tell him DCoy82 sent you! The 30mm ultralight c circle NDEF formatted seem to be the only ones I've bought that work with the nexus so far.
Once you get them you can download program called NFC Task Launcher off the market to program them.
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www.tagstand.com to purchase the tags. Tell him DCoy82 sent you! The 30mm ultralight c circle NDEF formatted seem to be the only ones I've bought that work with the nexus so far.
Once you get them you can download program called NFC Task Launcher off the market to program them.
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That is so awesome. This is my first phone with NFC so I'm barely starting to learn all the cool things that you can do with it. I tried Android Beam for the first time with my brother on Tuesday and it works great, though I wish you could beam other things such as pictures. By the way, the metal button does not interfere with NFC. I will let them know that you recommended me. Thank you!
If your interested in NFC, here's a few spots that got me started
http://androidforums.com/nexus-s/336155-what-do-you-use-nfc-tasker.html
http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/weekend_project_make_your_own_nfc_tags.php
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnqmyNEQPq0&feature=email&email=comment_reply_received
and the tags I bought were from here:
http://tagsfordroid.com/tags/Home.html
I got them cause i liked the having the android on them, i think they are a tiny bit less expensive elsewhere, and these are a little thicker than I'd like (like a puffy sticker, about the same thickness of a penny) but you can get many in other places.
by itself i'm not sure nfc task launcher does it for me, but in combination with tasker, it's ridiculous how much can be done....would still love to see what others have come up with.
I love those stickers with the Android! Thanks for the links. I will need to read up on it more. I am definitely interested. This is a lot more exciting stuff then what Google showed off at the I/O last year!
Thats a good idea. Being in IT, we have dead Hard Drives laying around that have awesome magnets in them. They're real slim. I bet I could superglue one to my nexus's battery cover for under the TPU case that would hold. They're thin so it might not screw with the case (but it might).
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I got them cause i liked the having the android on them, i think they are a tiny bit less expensive elsewhere, and these are a little thicker than I'd like (like a puffy sticker, about the same thickness of a penny) but you can get many in other places.
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Yeah, it looks like it's $8 for 2. I just picked up 5 over at tagstand.com for the same price and found 10 for $13 over at http://buynfcstickers.com.
Hopefully you guys are all having good experience with the guy at tag stand. His customer service was great for me and I'll definatley be going back there in the future.
Oh and by the way, I got my new tetrax magnet set in today and not having any issues with the magnet at allowing necessary nor with the metal part sticking to the stock battery door. Only real issue so far is you have to slide it off just right or the battery door just pops off the nexus lol. Highly recommend though!
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is there a way to put a cell phone strap on the Galaxy Nexus?
(anything short of drilling an actual hole on the Galaxy Nexus, of course! )
For me, i attached a charm around my phone's case between the camera and secondary microphone holes. Its nice since it doesn't force you to undo the charm whenever you are pulling out the battery door out =] all you do is remove the case and presto!
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is there a way to put a cell phone strap on the Galaxy Nexus?
(anything short of drilling an actual hole on the Galaxy Nexus, of course! )
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If you have one of the many Androidified Cruzer Lite case (with embossed Andy on the back) there's provision for a cell phone strap on one of the top corner.
There's no loop for a strap because it's not a clam shell phone, and nothing could be worse for the screen than precariously dangling it from your wrist/hip/purse to get banged around by whatever your body comes into contact with when you're walking around.
That's a $500 phone that you're considering hanging off of your body for the world to see, held on by a single strap. It's smaller than a purse, making it easier to steal, and worth more than most people make in a week. Think about that for a moment.
But if you're really that interested, case manufacturers often sell cases that come with a loop for attaching a strap. Google it.
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There's no loop for a strap because it's not a clam shell phone, and nothing could be worse for the screen than precariously dangling it from your wrist/hip/purse to get banged around by whatever your body comes into contact with when you're walking around.
That's a $500 phone that you're considering hanging off of your body for the world to see, held on by a single strap. It's smaller than a purse, making it easier to steal, and worth more than most people make in a week. Think about that for a moment.
But if you're really that interested, case manufacturers often sell cases that come with a loop for attaching a strap. Google it.
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But all other Samsung smartphones have strap holes..... The Galaxy Nexus seems to be the only exception.
I would just duct tape it to my hand.
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Here's how I use mine. I have sweaty hands :/
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Here's how I use mine. I have sweaty hands :/
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I assume you simply drilled a hole in the case, right? Looks good... I'll get a hard case for my Galaxy Nexus and do the same.
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I assume you simply drilled a hole in the case, right? Looks good... I'll get a hard case for my Galaxy Nexus and do the same.
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nope, that hole is for the 2nd mic or whatever it is..
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I assume you simply drilled a hole in the case, right? Looks good... I'll get a hard case for my Galaxy Nexus and do the same.
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If you get one of the cruzer lite cases as stated above, you dont have to drill or use a hole that it wasnt meant for. It has it on the upper right (if your phone's screen is facing you) corner.
As I am new here, I am not allowed to post links... Anyway, I saw a nice post by a guy in Japan with his brand new Docomo Galaxy Nexus. And in one of the pictures, you can see where he attached a strap to the small screw in the upper right hand corner above the SIM card.
If you search for "GALAXY NEXUS SC-04D で今日やった作業" you might be able to find it....
Hope this helps.
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As I am new here, I am not allowed to post links... Anyway, I saw a nice post by a guy in Japan with his brand new Docomo Galaxy Nexus. And in one of the pictures, you can see where he attached a strap to the small screw in the upper right hand corner above the SIM card.
If you search for "GALAXY NEXUS SC-04D で今日やった作業" you might be able to find it....
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that's pretty interesting, i'm just scared the case might pop off.
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There's no loop for a strap because it's not a clam shell phone, and nothing could be worse for the screen than precariously dangling it from your wrist/hip/purse to get banged around by whatever your body comes into contact with when you're walking around.
That's a $500 phone that you're considering hanging off of your body for the world to see, held on by a single strap. It's smaller than a purse, making it easier to steal, and worth more than most people make in a week. Think about that for a moment.
But if you're really that interested, case manufacturers often sell cases that come with a loop for attaching a strap. Google it.
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I think the fact of it being a $500.00 phone is why the OP wants a strap. I have never thought that they were solely for carrying the phone around, but to keep it from hitting the deck if it slips out of your hand while in use. Kind of the same way wii controllers have a strap to prevent you from impaling your TV.
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I think the fact of it being a $500.00 phone is why the OP wants a strap. I have never thought that they were solely for carrying the phone around, but to keep it from hitting the deck if it slips out of your hand while in use. Kind of the same way wii controllers have a strap to prevent you from impaling your TV.
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or you know... the op is a hipster like me that wants a cookie dangling from the phone.
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or you know... the op is a hipster like me that wants a cookie dangling from the phone.
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Mmmmm.... cookies
Here is my case desing. Is there anyone who can make this case available on the market
i like the idea..
Isn't there anybody who owns or knows someone owns a case manufacture company.
I don't want anything except a sample case.
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I like the design also so here's a bump. BUMP!
I would buy one if someone were to make these.
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Here is my case desing. Is there anyone who can make this case available on the market
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Great concept, flawed product.
#1- The flap will be loose, so it needs to be secured. Best way is for a Magnet link.
#2- Placing your cards on the outer side means more chance of opportunistic theft
#3- Even adding one credit card will make the case thicker. Its usually not a problem, but since they will be "stacked" the inner side will get thicker in some areas and not in others.
This creates a loose "touch point" of the inside flap and the screen.
(eg/ Apple's Smart Cover, imagine the middle being quite thick and the borders shallow - it wouldn't touch properly).
I do like the idea of combining your phone + wallet into one package, but its not really theesable. Firstly, it will make the NOTE too bulky, and its already stretching out some pockets. Secondly, the amount of storage is low on the package. A wallet will hold more contents.
I personally have a skinny wallet with a ~3 credit cards and half-dozen business cards and ofcourse paper money. I place it in my ass pocket, phone goes alone to front right pocket... I tend to multitask easiest this way.
Would've got this but, I don't like leather and I want a pouch where my phone slides out, not stuck to the case. Also, no room for a usb host cable.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Genuine-Lea...699739?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item2571d6e91b
no one volanteer to produce this case ?
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no one volanteer to produce this case ?
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you need to network with Chinese / European case producers.
Just ring them up
Gonna set up a business?
You can find similar onTaoboa or extremedeals thought. http://www.squidoo.com/extreme-deals-from-china
or in this forumthread, tip use pc browser, to many pages
http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/samsung-user-group-136/galaxy-note-accessories-3490829-2.html
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Hello folks,
Long-time lurker here and I post before you today with small request - help me help you help me design a better dock!
I'm currently developing a modular multi-device charging stand and the issue I need help with is devices being used with protective cases.
I would be very grateful if you guys could take this quick poll and if you feel like it, provide a little bit of detail about your dock and/or case usage.
The stand is just about ready - I'm just finalising the device dock designs, then it's the initial prototype and if all goes well I will have some
preview models out for an early review (if anyone would like to review one please PM me and I'm sure we can work something out) and I shall post a little showcase here as well.
Many thanks in advance guys and gals!
Hmmm, it seems my Forum-Fu is weak - is there a way to edit a poll? Or would a Mod be kind enough to add two more options to the list?
"Yes. I'm thinking about a dock." and "No. I'm thinking about a dock."
Thanks again!
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Hmmm, it seems my Forum-Fu is weak - is there a way to edit a poll? Or would a Mod be kind enough to add two more options to the list?
"Yes. I'm thinking about a dock." and "No. I'm thinking about a dock."
Thanks again!
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case save my screen a lot of time
I never use a case on my phone. Hated the thought of taking a nice slim phone and making it bulky. I just never drop it, not that difficult.
Definitely a case is a must for me.I have dropped and bumped my phone 2 or 3 times and the case did the job for me.Without a case I imagine my phone would have been just a broken toy and also by the way even having a good case adds to peace of mind since it adds a little protection value.
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A case is important to me. I work hard for my money and will not take a chance on breaking it. For those that "never" drop their phone, good for you. As far as "ruining" the look of my sleek phone, I couldn't care less about bulk and changing the look of it. I'm not a kid that likes to show off, I'm an older man that uses a phone as a tool, not a show toy. Besides, some cases do actually look good.
Sometimes
I usually use a case when out and about but prefer to take it off whilst at home
Here in Mexico, most phone owners use a case (i.e tpu, silicone, hard plastic) because when don't have insurance plans like you do in U.s. Thus making it cheaper to buy a case ($4 - 8) than to pay for another phone or fix it.
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I usually use a case when out and about but prefer to take it off whilst at home
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That's OK if you use an easy-off/on case, but some of use those 2 piece hybrids that are a pain to take off and put back on.
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vikernes7 said:
Here in Mexico, most phone owners use a case (i.e tpu, silicone, hard plastic) because when don't have insurance plans like you do in U.s. Thus making it cheaper to buy a case ($4 - 8) than to pay for another phone or fix it.
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Most people I know here in the US don't have insurance on their phones, so having a good case is just as important here as in mexico. Plus, paying $8 a month for insurance is pretty expensive. That's almost $100 a year. No thanks. I'd rather spend $25-35 once for a good heavy duty case and have it for the life of the phone.
I use urban armor gear case. Would be interested in stand for charging multiple devices at once.
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I don't one and I wont get one. Just be careful. And it looks ugly tough.
Thanks for all the feedback guys. I've decided, at the risk of fragmentation, I'm going to give buyers the option of either a cased or caseless version of a devices cradle to attach to the dock - it's already going to be tailored to meet individual device needs, I may as well go all the way and offer this too.
As a follow up question:
The stand is currently aiming to support one tablet and one phone charging and displaying on the stand with the possibility of charging 2 extra devices at the same time - one would be resting on the legs of the stand (with small extrusions on the feet to stop the device slipping - this may not be able to fit every device but currently anything ~13cm in length should be fine), and one lying on your desk underneath.
Would people be interested in the option (depending on the size of the base stand) of an additional phone dock in place of a tablet dock? (Or if you're using a larger stand the option of an additional tablet dock? Subject to feasibility of course.)
Many thanks for the replies everyone, I'll be sending the initial design to be 3D printed Monday or Tuesday!
Sometimes the phone can fall to the floor. A simple case of rubber, even pleasant, when you take the phone in hand.
I agree
wolfen69 I think if I had a case like that I would just leave it on. I want a metal case eventually! That would be awesome!
Metal case will protect your device screen when it falls down, but not sensitive sensors, i guess. I'm currently using Samsung S-View case and i am pleased with it. :good:
A case ruins the beauty of my Lumia
But its better to stay safe
Just for the record: I bought my girlfriend some rubber case for her moto g. She bought her phone since it's launch on November and we weren't able to find a case for that model here in Mexico.
She had dropped her phone a couple times without a case, and the phone back got some marks and scratches. Now she had put the case on and dropped her phone in the middle of a street without noticing. When we ran down the street searching for her phone, we found that a car had ran over it, leaving tire marks on the lime green case. To our surprise, both phone and screen were intact, thus, we think a case is the best investment you can do when buying a new phone
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I usually don't use a case. It was designed the way it is and should be in the form as is. Unfortunately I use an extended battery and hacked up my original back to my GN2 so I can't even go back to the original feeling of the phone.
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Leather
My tablet is always protected by a simple and cheap leather case