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Disappointed by the LG Nexus 5X specs and price ... is the LG G4 still worth buying?

As the title says, I am really disappointed by the N5X price in Europe compared to the specs. Is the LG G4 still worth buying it?
Is the LG overlay acceptable? (This is the only thing which really holds me off buying the G4 at the moment, because I really love stock Android)
Is LG offering some stock Android experience? (like HTC did)
How fast the software updates get released?

theliquid said:
As the title says, I am really disappointed by the N5X price in Europe compared to the specs. Is the LG G4 still worth buying it?
Is the LG overlay acceptable? (This is the only thing which really holds me off buying the G4 at the moment, because I really love stock Android)
Is LG offering some stock Android experience? (like HTC did)
How fast the software updates get released?
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This decision is really up to what features you find value in. I love my G4 and you would have to decide if you want a phone that has removable battery and expandable storage to say have fingerprint scanner and the latest OS. These phones are different in a lot of ways.
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I picked up the G4 the day it came out,so I've had a good few months with it. Definitely no regrets. Coming from Samsung, it's a much less intrusive version of Android..... Than say... Touchwizz. It could benefit from extra features for battery saving mode like on the Sony or SAMSUNG, but it easily lasts me a day.
One of the best cameras, used it on my recent trip Italy, if you are into photography... You can have a lot of fun.
With every phone you will find +/-, but sure you can probably get a good deal on aG4, making it a real phone to consider.
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theliquid said:
As the title says, I am really disappointed by the N5X price in Europe compared to the specs. Is the LG G4 still worth buying it?
Is the LG overlay acceptable? (This is the only thing which really holds me off buying the G4 at the moment, because I really love stock Android)
Is LG offering some stock Android experience? (like HTC did)
How fast the software updates get released?
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I can answer one of those questions: the overlay is acceptable, because 99.5% of the time I don't see it because I use the camera/browser/gallery/app of choice, instead of playing with the settings. That might be different in your case, but since you asked I thought I'd answer.

Hell! I'd recommend the G4 over their 6P! For that European price, I'd 100% recommend the G4 over it!!! No doubt about it! You can get the G4 for 420 euros! The 6P will be 650 and I still think the G4 will compare just as well Or even better in the camera department and battery life. Nexus' aren't known for battery life. Neither is the LG, but hey! ...

theliquid said:
As the title says, I am really disappointed by the N5X price in Europe compared to the specs.
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what about the P variant ?
was a bit disappointed with the 5X specs too. with only 2gb, what reason is there to upgrade from the nexus 5 ?
Is the LG G4 still worth buying it?
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Not for you, for a lot of non-purists, yes.
Is the LG overlay acceptable? (This is the only thing which really holds me off buying the G4 at the moment, because I really love stock Android)
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exactly. will not mix with 'Hello Kitty'
Is LG offering some stock Android experience? (like HTC did)
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there is the sense mod if you are rooted. but this available for any android.
How fast the software updates get released?
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no where as fast as you would get on nexus. they come in time though.

I'm also looking at ordering the G4 after the disappointment of the 5X, but it looks like LG will always gimp Nexus devices so it won't compete with their own flagship.
LG seems to be the only manufacturer left that give all the choices for users, even Samsung is going Apple direction.
I find LG interface to be much more bearable than Samsung which to me personally is unusable. This is helped by the fact of on-screen buttons. But I'm just waiting for CyanogenMod availability.
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eksasol said:
I'm also looking at ordering the G4 after the disappointment of the 5X, but it looks like LG will always gimp Nexus devices so it won't compete with their own flagship.
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Then you are not a typical nexus user. You are interested in nexus only because updates are regular and this keeps the value of your device up.
You really prefer to have the extra 'features' every non nexus device offers.
So is this the same as the OP or not.
LG seems to be the only manufacturer left that give all the choices for users, even Samsung is going Apple direction.
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some would say they have exceeded apple in terms of build and quality with their offerings this year.
But I'm just waiting for CyanogenMod availability.
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if you don't need the camera...

Actually Dxomark already tested the new nexus and it came 2nd, after the galaxy s6, beating lg g4 with 1 point. Oops.
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neflictus said:
Actually Dxomark already tested the new nexus and it came 2nd, after the galaxy s6, beating lg g4 with 1 point. Oops.
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86 in photo and 79 in video for both but one has 84 points and G4 83 points, anyways DxoMark just sucks, a french reviewer... never in low light

I'm disappointed in the 5x because of the faux look of dual front speakers when in reality one is just an earpiece speaker, nothing more and lack of qi charging, and same outdated storage options. Really don't care about the lack of RAM, not like I can tell a difference going from the G4 to nexus 5, though all of it is hard to justify at $380 when you pay $20 more and get 3gb of ram, a 5.7 inch 2k screen, and an SD slot by choosing a moto x pure edition. 5x specs would be fine with nexus 4 pricing tiers
To answer your question if you're a purist like me, LG UX will drive you bonkers. So much stuff they changed just to be different that doesn't really have a purpose. I like it overall OK but have already decided I'm going back to a nexus or a moto next year. Also the memory leak is in full effect on it as LG has written 5.1.1 off as "too minor to even bother with" which means it won't get fixed until you get marshmallow which probably won't be until 2016
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neflictus said:
Actually Dxomark already tested the new nexus and it came 2nd, after the galaxy s6, beating lg g4 with 1 point. Oops.
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That was quick but the most interesting scores are the N6P is top for texture in stills beating the S6 & G4 and beating both again for Noise by 4 points.
I think the comparisons of N6P against S6/G4 are going to be interesting, hard as it might be to believe, expect the N6P shots to look slightly better in details than the S6/G4. How to counter that ? reduce to 12MP on both, now noise & details will look sharper and the difference will be hard to tell. Still, this is an achievement for the N6P. The 6S+ did not get there. The Z5 did.
In terms of video stabilisation its a good ten points behind the G4 so jerky video.
12MP and 1/2.3" rear camera.
The big catch is that there is no OIS in either N5X or N6P, pretty shocking considering N5 & N6 had it. Go to the trouble to make a good camera and then leave out OIS. Seriously WTH!!!! So like the Z5 except the Z5 will have more features ootb. You better have good handholds a la xperia or M9 to get clear low light shots with these nexii.
What will the camera interface be like, google camera has always been very limited. 3rd party cams will be essential. And then we will find out just how slow the shutter gets to.
They left out wireless charging on both ! ok, i get it that morotola is crap at wireless charging but LG already nailed it with the 5, two years ago.
Course for those who want sd & removable battery, software is not going to be able to fix

I've just returned my LG G4 to get the Nexus 5x.
I loved the G4's camera but the bloatware, bluetooth issues, buggy smart unlock, constant notifications of "NFC may drain battery" when using my car dock, the big when you put it on charge, the bing when it finishes charging, the bing when you turn it on, the bing when you turn it off.... it stopped being an enjoyable device to use and it was all because of what LG had done to Android.
So I'm going back to stock android. Originally I was going to wait for a G4 AOSP or Cyanogen rom but with the announcement of the fantastic Nexus 5x camera I decided to make the move while I still could..
The feature list is cut down compared to the G4 but it is stuff I am not so concerned with. I've not used expandable storage since moving to use Google music, Photo, Docs, Keep and Drive. I've never used wireless charging, and I don't game on my phones so I am not worried about the 1gb less of ram, especially when my Nexus 4 uses nearly 1GB of ram less than the LG G4 when idling.

I got the G4 after trying almost all other phones out there. I had Z3, HTC One M9, S6, Nexus 6, Iphone 6, and now G4 and the G4 blows them all away.
It is quicker than the others, has no memory or multitasking issues contrary to some minor views in this thread, the bluetooth, 4g and wifi work perfectly, smart lock works fine too, the camera beats all of the other phones I owned, and the battery life is equal to if not better than all at 5 Hours SOT at 60% screen brightness.
The new google launcher is AWFUL so wanting that is just nonesense, and the LG launcher has replaced Nova for me, because it's just as customisable.
Nexus fans won't want it though because they want Stock = Boring, and prefer the boring look to a decent camera and features. Anyone expecting the new Nexus devices to actually have decent real world camera is praying to the wrong gods.

I have no memory leak issues with my Verizon model, and love 95% of this phone.
Coming from a Nexus/Moto X background, I find LG's ui decent and mostly easy to use. There are 2 or 3 little annoyances in how settings are accessed, but Nova Launcher fixes most design issues - an icon pack and new screen layout, plus gestures to shortcut to the settings I use most.
I world consider rooting to clean up the other small issues, but I'm a regular Android Pay user do I'm holding off until that all shakes out.
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G4 should be compared to 6p. 5x is mid range.
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Im a huge nexus fan ive owned all of them from the first HTC to the last motorola. I bought the g4 blindly to test the non nexus waters and this phone has blown me away especially after the updates and the camera is super amazing and no nexus can or will beat it. Dont get me wrong ill probably grab the new nexus 5 based on stock so i can have fun rooting and putting custom roms on it, but besides having cutting edge software it will be my secondary phone and ill stick with my g4 for everyday use. To be honest im a crack flasher and it feels good to not have that urge with my g4, i got root and thats all i needed to get rid of some things and add xposed to tweak it a bit. Very happy with my g4 and will likely get the g5 when it drops.
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theliquid said:
As the title says, I am really disappointed by the N5X price in Europe compared to the specs. Is the LG G4 still worth buying it?
Is the LG overlay acceptable? (This is the only thing which really holds me off buying the G4 at the moment, because I really love stock Android)
Is LG offering some stock Android experience? (like HTC did)
How fast the software updates get released?
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Hello, I bought the G4 for about a month and it has no problem till now. Everything is OK. The body design is a little bend and quite comfortable playing with the phone. But the price is a little bit expensive for me. I was impulsive to buy it. Fortunately it performs well overall.

ambervals6 said:
G4 should be compared to 6p. 5x is mid range.
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no, because G4 and 5X share same hardware.

theliquid said:
As the title says, I am really disappointed by the N5X price in Europe compared to the specs. Is the LG G4 still worth buying it?
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Yes. In terms of hardware, it's about even up. And the G4 also offers a miniSD slot, exchangeable battery, and nice back covers. Only possible drawback might be the battery live, probably mostly thanks to the G4's insane resolution.
Is the LG overlay acceptable?
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I don't like the LG icons, but that can be easily changed by using a different launcher like Nova. Also, the colors for toast messages and quick settings are a bit bright (cyan). And the mobile data protocol (LTE, G3, ...) is displayed as own icon instead of small text in the reception bar icon. Most of the rest can easily be ignored or even be disabled in the settings.
But a lot of this (and more) can be modified even without unlocking the bootloader. You can flash rooted ROMs via the cable firmware update screen, and then use FlashFire to flash other ZIP updates like Xposed or themed variants (warning: very slow...).
With the European H815 version, you can also unlock the bootloader, but you'll lose warranty, and it can't be unlocked. But it'll allow you to flash "more AOSP" ROMs. (Official CM12 is work in progress, but there's an inofficial port available.)
How fast the software updates get released?
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Android M at least has been announced for the G4. I guess it's hard to tell even by LG's developers, as it depends on the changes made by Google.
But then, the changes made since Android 4.1 aren't that impressive anyway IMHO, and several recent updates had some teething troubles, so maybe it's not so bad to wait a bit longer...

Is it still worth getting

Hello mates,
for the past weeks I probably watched every G4 video and read every review. Since it's really hard for me to get the V10 with supported LTE bands (Germany) and I'm kinda getting impatient, I'm thinking about getting the G4.
So my general question is:
Is it still worth it or should I get another device/wait for V10/G5/or whatever?
Thanks in advance
Kay

Get it. The V10 is too big and i'm not sure whether that design will endure. V10 v2 might be better.
G5, nobody knows what it will be like. G3 owners were so so about G4. I bet G4 owners will be the same with the G5. V10 has not tempted too many G4 owners to switch.
Since you are in germany you get the option of unlocked bootloader which people in other markets are still waiting for.
What else are you comparing with ? seems like LG only
What is your current device.

One Twelve said:
Get it. The V10 is too big and i'm not sure whether that design will endure. V10 v2 might be better.
G5, nobody knows what it will be like. G3 owners were so so about G4. I bet G4 owners will be the same with the G5. V10 has not tempted too many G4 owners to switch.
Since you are in germany you get the option of unlocked bootloader which people in other markets are still waiting for.
What else are you comparing with ? seems like LG only
What is your current device.
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Hey thanks for your reply. I'm currently using an HTC One M7 and it's still running perfectly fine, but I feel like moving on. Preferably something with a fingerprint scanner.. I know the G4 doesn't have one but it offers this great camera I fell in love with. I'm really obsessed with LG now, since HTC only produced crap for the past months. And I can't wait for MWC 2016 :crying:
There is another device that caught my eye, the Gigaset ME pro. They just released the ME without pro, which means the pro will probably released next year .. Oh and then of course the Honor 7.

Kay2daCee said:
Hey thanks for your reply. I'm currently using an HTC One M7 and it's still running perfectly fine, but I feel like moving on. Preferably something with a fingerprint scanner.. I know the G4 doesn't have one but it offers this great camera I fell in love with.
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The only remaining contender that may challenge the G4's camera is the lumia 950. If you don't care too much about video then v10 isn't important.
I'm really obsessed with LG now, since HTC only produced crap for the past months. And I can't wait for MWC 2016 :crying:
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This is the thing, the m10 is most likely going to have a SD 820. If it improves from the A9 camera which is good, then HTC will have come of age in the camera department.
if you like to play intensive games then the 808 is going to lag a little. if you don't care about heavy games, 808 is pretty good.
There is another device that caught my eye, the Gigaset ME pro. They just released the ME without pro, which means the pro will probably released next year .. Oh and then of course the Honor 7.
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For fingerprint scanners, make sure they are using generation 2. The first gen isn't as good.
Not heard of these devices, price wise the G4 is competitive, is branded. You never know with these chinese ones.
The Huawei mate S has OIS, the honor & gigaset's do not.

Get it.

LG will only use OLED displays for its V series of smartphones

https://www.xda-developers.com/lg-only-use-oled-displays-v-series-smartphones/
the reason LG used LCD on the G7 ThinQ was because the G series is more mainstream than the V series.
The company wants to include more premium specifications in the V series because of its niche nature.
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ChazzMatt said:
https://www.xda-developers.com/lg-only-use-oled-displays-v-series-smartphones/
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If I'm not mistaken the v30 has a LED display?
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raver445 said:
If I'm not mistaken the v30 has a LED display?
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OLED, starting with the 2017 V30. This phone and all future LG V phones will have OLED.
Whereas the just-announced 2018 G7 goes back to LCD, like the early 2017 G6.
People thought once LG started using OLED (late 2017), all their flagship phones would have it.
Or that since new G7 has LCD, that OLED was just an experiment for V30.
This article explains their strategy to differentiate between the two flagships, G and V.
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I have always been a fan of Samsung, I have been buying subsequent releases of Note. But I wanted to have the best audio on the market and I bought the V30.
And I must say - that my next phone will be V40 ! The battery holds 2 days, nothing hangs, does not jam. And I thought LG was crap ...
It's not true! The best phone I ever had!

I might get the G7, if they give T-Mobile the 6GB with 128 storage. My only reason is that I actually prefer LCD over OLED.
Unless LG makes the next V series a little better in the OLED department, I can't see myself going for it again.
Plus I like the idea of the fingerprint sensor and power button being seperate. That notch is just sad but it's better than the extreme edge of the Galaxy line that I can't even hold properly!
I can't do anything until December, so we'll see what is around then.
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Septembersrain said:
I might get the G7, if they give T-Mobile the 6GB with 128 storage. My only reason is that I actually prefer LCD over OLED.
Unless LG makes the next V series a little better in the OLED department, I can't see myself going for it again.
Plus I like the idea of the fingerprint sensor and power button being seperate. That notch is just sad but it's better than the extreme edge of the Galaxy line that I can't even hold properly!
I can't do anything until December, so we'll see what is around then.
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It would be nice if TMobile gets that version but it's unlikely unfortunately. OLED issues aside V30 is still pretty good but the G7 is nice too, just don't like that smaller battery.
I wish TMobile was getting the V35 honestly, everything the G7 has in a much better looking package in my opinion.

More probably they don't think they can hit the production/quality requirements for the G7 and V30/S/V35 to all run POLED. Their quality's pretty crap even only making enough for one model. I personally had to return two V30's for screen color issues.

Thinking whether to buy LG G7 ThinQ or wait for V40 (a V20 User)

Hello Everyone,
I am fan of LG and using LG V20 currently. I have used Optimus Black, G, G3 in the past years and I could not leave LG for many reasons. So here is my question. Will it be good if I buy G7 now or shall I wait for LG V40? Most importantly I am from India and If I buy G7, I will get G7 with Quad DAC.
I am not sure why G7 released with Oreo 8.0 not 8.1 (New Software upgrade center team wont have time to give 8.1 to latest flagship??)
As far as the early reviews I like G7 for the below features.
1. 16 MP wide angle CAM and AI enabled Primary CAM
2. 18:9 display, Brightest screen with 1000 Nits.
3. Obviously latest SD845
I don't like G7 for the below
1. QC 3.0 charger in the box even though phone supports 4.0
2. Less battery compared to V20 and V30
3. Hybrid Sim slot. V20 has dedicated slot.
Biggest reason why I can think of skipping G7 and wait for V40
Hope V40 will come with Android P since in a month or so my V20 will have 8.0. so buying G7 wont make any difference I think

krk2krk said:
Hello Everyone,
I am fan of LG and using LG V20 currently. I have used Optimus Black, G, G3 in the past years and I could not leave LG for many reasons. So here is my question. Will it be good if I buy G7 now or shall I wait for LG V40? Most importantly I am from India and If I buy G7, I will get G7 with Quad DAC.
I am not sure why G7 released with Oreo 8.0 not 8.1 (New Software upgrade center team wont have time to give 8.1 to latest flagship??)
As far as the early reviews I like G7 for the below features.
1. 16 MP wide angle CAM and AI enabled Primary CAM
2. 18:9 display, Brightest screen with 1000 Nits.
3. Obviously latest SD845
I don't like G7 for the below
1. QC 3.0 charger in the box even though phone supports 4.0
2. Less battery compared to V20 and V30
3. Hybrid Sim slot. V20 has dedicated slot.
Biggest reason why I can think of skipping G7 and wait for V40
Hope V40 will come with Android P since in a month or so my V20 will have 8.0. so buying G7 wont make any difference I think
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G7 has no 18:9 aspect ratio i think its around 19,5:9 (i think this doesnt matter, i think your were relating to small bezels i guess)
The other Pros seem legit.
About the cons:
I would not care so much about the charger.
I would suggest to wait for reviews here in the forum and youtubers to judge the battery. I think it will be similar to the S8. (people will argue that they claim the screen is 30% more efficient and that it has 2 generations newer SoC but at the end of the day, your have an octacore flagship SoC and a 1000nit bright screen... this is sucking all batteries dry dont fool yourself. especially if you buy the phone for the bright mode and the high performance (you mentioned that these are important to you) there is no reason in arguing that the battery life will be any good. from what i heard the boost is 3min maximum because the phone overheates after that... you can guess that its the battery overheating since its draining so fast. this is bad for battery lifetime in general as well as battery life througout the day)
I am not sure what your mean with the sim card slot. But if you need 2 sim cards, i guess you will have to manage with the 64/128 gig of storage. i think thats enough for most people.
I dont think that the V40 will arrive with Android P. I think it will take them longer. The V30 did not arrive with Oreo as far a i know.
I belive though that the Price will drop rapidly. The G6 was 700 Euros in Germany and 2 months later already it was down to 450 Euros. You dont need to know anything about Euros to see that the price dropped significantly in a short period of time. If you wait for the V40, you can decide for yourself what is the better phone but when it arrives the G7 will probably be down to 60% of its starting price.

0alfred0 said:
G7 has no 18:9 aspect ratio i think its around 19,5:9 (i think this doesnt matter, i think your were relating to small bezels i guess)
The other Pros seem legit.
About the cons:
I would not care so much about the charger.
I would suggest to wait for reviews here in the forum and youtubers to judge the battery. I think it will be similar to the S8. (people will argue that they claim the screen is 30% more efficient and that it has 2 generations newer SoC but at the end of the day, your have an octacore flagship SoC and a 1000nit bright screen... this is sucking all batteries dry dont fool yourself. especially if you buy the phone for the bright mode and the high performance (you mentioned that these are important to you) there is no reason in arguing that the battery life will be any good. from what i heard the boost is 3min maximum because the phone overheates after that... you can guess that its the battery overheating since its draining so fast. this is bad for battery lifetime in general as well as battery life througout the day)
I am not sure what your mean with the sim card slot. But if you need 2 sim cards, i guess you will have to manage with the 64/128 gig of storage. i think thats enough for most people.
I dont think that the V40 will arrive with Android P. I think it will take them longer. The V30 did not arrive with Oreo as far a i know.
I belive though that the Price will drop rapidly. The G6 was 700 Euros in Germany and 2 months later already it was down to 450 Euros. You dont need to know anything about Euros to see that the price dropped significantly in a short period of time. If you wait for the V40, you can decide for yourself what is the better phone but when it arrives the G7 will probably be down to 60% of its starting price.
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Thanks for taking your time and reply to the post. I will surely wait for some weeks to get more reviews and then decide.
Btw why do you think V40 wont come with Android P, I got V20 with Nougat before anyother device with latest android in that period.

0alfred0 said:
The G6 was 700 Euros in Germany and 2 months later already it was down to 450 Euros.
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How much does V30 cost now in DE after half year and how big is it's price loss?
krk2krk said:
Hello Everyone,
I am fan of LG and using LG V20 currently. I have used Optimus Black, G, G3 in the past years and I could not leave LG for many reasons. So here is my question. Will it be good if I buy G7 now or shall I wait for LG V40?
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I'm eager to buy G7, in my case it probably would be 128/6Gb variant. I'm tired waiting for specbump, 845 seems to be lots better over 820 in V20. I'm sitting on V20, too. As for V40 it's too long to wait, and still I'm almost sure it'll have same 845 , same 6Gb and only difference might be OLED, just tad bit better quality than V30. Is it worth waiting another 6 month? IDTS, I don't think so.
Probably MI7 or 1+6, U12 will be some overwhelming devices, and I'd prefer one of them to G7, anyway G7 won't appear until June
If until June Youtubers will show some major problems with G7 I'll then retreat and buy V30 or Pixel2XL instead and then happily wait for V40

V30 is like 500€ on Amazon right now, started at 900€ last December, arrived pretty late. By that time nobody wanted to buy it lol they just take too long to make it available in Europe. Like 3 months after presentation.

0alfred0 said:
By that time nobody wanted to buy it lol they just take too long to make it available in Europe. Like 3 months after presentation.
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Whatever. Like if LG had made it available in September on Europe Amazon somebody would've bought it for 900 €. No. Nobody. It would lay on shelves the same until price eventually dropped to 400 €

On your reason for waiting for the V40 as it might support dual sim AND a separate SD card slot, I don't think it will. The V30 ThinQ has the same configuration as the LG G6/G7 (https://www.gsmarena.com/lg_v30s_thinq-9090.php), so you give up SIM 2 for the SD card. I thought I was going to be disappointed when I got my dual SIM G6 because of this, but I wasn't. I keep both SIMs in full time, and as @0alfred0 said, I have enough memory on the phone and don't really need it anyway.

@krk2krk you bought g7 bro? Am interested if we can unlock the bootloader of Indian version. Or what version is that we are getting? Any idea

There is a lot I like about this phone. Great sound, good screen and decent brightness with a loud speaker. Be prepared for bad battery life. LG just doesn't optimize well. My HTC u11 has the same size battery and getting 7 hours sot was normal. I once got 9 hours sot.
I just purchased a battery case which adds 4700 mah to the existing 3000. Now I can run at max brightness and max resolution.

fernando sor said:
. Now I can run at max brightness and max resolution.
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Does resolution even effect this phones battery?

fernando sor said:
Be prepared for bad battery life. LG just doesn't optimize well. My HTC u11 has the same size battery and getting 7 hours sot was normal. I once got 9 hours sot
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That's wrong. U11 had 835 SoC which is much more cooler and energy efficient than 845 which is hot and power hungry. U11 is suited to compare with LG V30, V30 had same battery life to U11 because same SoC
And also U11 had much less bright screen, with max brightness around 350nit, MAX. G7 in daylight boosts to 1000nit, while U11 will keep 350 only. Because of that U11 will show better battery life, you just may keep your G7's brightness at 80% without auto on to keep its brightness at 350-400nits. If you turn autobrightness in G7 on than it'll suck juice very quicker than U11

krk2krk said:
Hello Everyone,
I am fan of LG and using LG V20 currently. I have used Optimus Black, G, G3 in the past years and I could not leave LG for many reasons. So here is my question. Will it be good if I buy G7 now or shall I wait for LG V40? Most importantly I am from India and If I buy G7, I will get G7 with Quad DAC.
I am not sure why G7 released with Oreo 8.0 not 8.1 (New Software upgrade center team wont have time to give 8.1 to latest flagship??)
As far as the early reviews I like G7 for the below features.
1. 16 MP wide angle CAM and AI enabled Primary CAM
2. 18:9 display, Brightest screen with 1000 Nits.
3. Obviously latest SD845
I don't like G7 for the below
1. QC 3.0 charger in the box even though phone supports 4.0
2. Less battery compared to V20 and V30
3. Hybrid Sim slot. V20 has dedicated slot.
Biggest reason why I can think of skipping G7 and wait for V40
Hope V40 will come with Android P since in a month or so my V20 will have 8.0. so buying G7 wont make any difference I think
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I recommend waiting for the V40 as it will be a better device with much better features. Especially battery life will be better as it will be equipped with an OLED panel

dieselhazza said:
I recommend waiting for the V40 as it will be a better device with much better features
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It'll cost at minimum $950 at least until Christmas

Ashish.akc said:
@krk2krk you bought g7 bro? Am interested if we can unlock the bootloader of Indian version. Or what version is that we are getting? Any idea
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Nope Bro. I decided to go with V40.

dieselhazza said:
I recommend waiting for the V40 as it will be a better device with much better features. Especially battery life will be better as it will be equipped with an OLED panel
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I am waiting for V40 currently. I hope people seen the leaked render of V40 and it has 5 cameras. I am really looking forward to buy a phone with latest Android now. I am sure that G7 will get 9.0 next year.
Billy Madison said:
It'll cost at minimum $950 at least until Christmas
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G7 released in India for 570$ and I hope LG now understand well about getting customers who buy their flagship phone. so V40 will come around 600$ in India.

krk2krk said:
G7 released in India for 570$ and I hope LG now understand well about getting customers who buy their flagship phone. so V40 will come around 600$ in India.
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Around Summer '19? Yeah. You know that G7 is a half-year old phone? So it's selling for $600 everywhere around the world

Billy Madison said:
Around Summer '19? Yeah. You know that G7 is a half-year old phone? So it's selling for $600 everywhere around the world
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Agree but waiting for few months to get a flagship for 600$ is good right

Waiting for few months till summer '19 means you get 8 months old not so top flagship phone. It isn't very smart idea, is it?

krk2krk said:
Agree but waiting for few months to get a flagship for 600$ is good right
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Of course. I'm too still waiting for price drop of G7. What I mean is just that lg is not selling G7 in India cheap. From the start. It's about time to announce V40 and price for G7 dropped to 600 so LG are starting to bring g7 on not so rich markets.
BTW is G7 sold in India "made in India" also? As I've read V30 had been assembled in India,probably V40 will be too

Billy Madison said:
Of course. I'm too still waiting for price drop of G7. What I mean is just that lg is not selling G7 in India cheap. From the start. It's about time to announce V40 and price for G7 dropped to 600 so LG are starting to bring g7 on not so rich markets.
BTW is G7 sold in India "made in India" also? As I've read V30 had been assembled in India,probably V40 will be too
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You are right on that.

It's lonely up here - V50 - will you come?

LG has a present for you...
UPDATE:
Here is what to expect if you head for V50!
Sound quality increased by 5-10% over G7, don't know how much over v30.
RCS messages from Google fully working.
Stellar battery life ~9 hours with some heavy usage - for example downloaded and uploaded today via wifi and lte around 15 GB, one software update, and some 4K60FPS with super steady mode enabled - around 20 min total movies, some photos, 2 hours of tidal with Bluetooth ldac and screen off, the rest for websurfing and YouTube.
Stellar cameras. Best out there. Tested VS note 10 plus and p30pro. P30pro is a big s... t, except in zoom
Stellar display. My wife has regular s10 and V50 is better. Same blacks, same VIVID COLORS, but WAAAAY better WHITE.
Camera software has so many settings, not gimmicks. Really nice video editing software.
Nice design. Those cameras under glass are so sexy.
5G
Really nice Haptic vibrator.
Better boom box speaker compared with g7
Each mobth I got an update. 2 on July, one on August in fact
What else!? TV app and more functions that I didn't had on G7.

4 me? nice

Looking to get some devs over to the v50?

It's a perfect phone. Feel free to ask anything. I can give you feedback.

Stuckurface said:
Looking to get some devs over to the v50?
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kinda

Not even launched in India

Inerent said:
LG has a present for you...
Ask if interested.
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What exactly are you going on about?
And, you do realize (hopefully) that this is the LG V30 subforum, right? Right?

Inerent said:
kinda
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First you gotta fix LGs marketing ... especially in Europe... V50 is available at ... what? 2 or 3 carriers (in whole europe).
Otherwise no normal shop even has it, only thing i find (in shops from germany/austria/uk/poland via price comparison site) is an offer from ebay for 900€.

Inerent said:
LG has a present for you...
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What, a free phone or something?
Not really interested in any of the 1st generation "5G" phones.

Other than the European dual screen version which v50 is Bootloader unlockable?

lg v50
is it better than v30

Just buy an lg g8
Better price available triple cameras (in europe) and offer the same features as the v50 just if you want DUAL DISPLAY or 5G just waiiiiiiiiiiitttt and throw 200$ for extra nothing

Alibaba0101 said:
Other than the European dual screen version which v50 is Bootloader unlockable?
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Nope. But this phone is so perfect. RCS working. 9 hours SOT, excelent dac and amp, etc
Cameras crushing note 10 and p30 pro, except on zoom. Tested myself.
Amazing display
Our forum is empty...:crying:

Inerent said:
Nope. But this phone is so perfect. RCS working. 9 hours SOT, excelent dac and amp, etc
Cameras crushing note 10 and p30 pro, except on zoom. Tested myself.
Amazing display
Our forum is empty...:crying:
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V60 is coming in couple of months.
https://www.androidcentral.com/lg-v60
With the V50 appearing to be a flop, LG's trying its hand again with the V60. The V60 is expected to be announced during IFA 2019, and this is everything we know about the phone so far.
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That will be better "5G" phone and better cameras. But I'm still holding onto my V30+.

I hope the V70 (not a typo) won't have a notch or any sort of cut in the screen and keeps the headphone jack. In that case it will be my next phone... in 4 years after i'm done with my V30

Blueice87 said:
I hope the V70 (not a typo) won't have a notch or any sort of cut in the screen and keeps the headphone jack. In that case it will be my next phone... in 4 years after i'm done with my V30
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Yeah, I'm waiting until the notch fiasco goes away.
And I still want headset jack, just because.
But next year (2020) will be V70, and that will be 3 years since 2017 V30, not 4 years...
I kept my last phone 3 years, so I can do it again.
I have a mint 2018 V35 but it's still in the box. Rooted V30+ is my daily phone.

ChazzMatt said:
Yeah, I'm waiting until the notch fiasco goes away.
And I still want headset jack, just because.
But next year (2020) will be V70, and that will be 3 years since 2017 V30, not 4 years...
I kept my last phone 3 years, so I can do it again.
I have a mint 2018 V35 but it's still in the box. Rooted V30+ is my daily phone.
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I think you're already set for a few years. The V35 is like the perfect upgrade after a V30

V30 has RCS, VoLTE and Wifi Calling too. My LTE speeds on Sprint are 200 Mbps. Right now there is no incentive for me to upgrade to a battery hogging 5G phone especially with all the health concerns.

ChazzMatt said:
Yeah, I'm waiting until the notch fiasco goes away.
And I still want headset jack, just because.
But next year (2020) will be V70, and that will be 3 years since 2017 V30, not 4 years...
I kept my last phone 3 years, so I can do it again.
I have a mint 2018 V35 but it's still in the box. Rooted V30+ is my daily phone.
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Why not use the v35 though and keep current v30 as backup? It has better specs

tech_infinity said:
Why not use the v35 though and keep current v30 as backup? It has better specs
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Because overall, my V30+ is better.
V35 is only 64GB internal memory, while my V30+ is 128GB. (The only V35+ was sold in Brazil, and I cannot get it over the internet. Even if I could, they want about $1,200 for it.) Yes, I have microSD card, but I like using internal memory better when possible.
V35 rooting very hard, there's no do-it-yourself. Unless there's something I'm not aware of, you have to ship your phone off to some other country or let someone remote in and hack your phone. I bought it when @runningnak3d was intently working on a root method, but his life focus changed and he no longer does that.
There's a older version of TWRP for V35 -- but no one seems to be using it. No reports it works with Pie. People who do root either can't install TWRP due to no fastboot or just don't seem to be using it. There's no devs over there working on it.
If just wanted to run a non-rooted phone with the same internal memory I had back in 2014 (64GB Moto Quark), yes it's a great phone.
My current phone has 128GB internal memory (plus my microSD card), is rooted. I have all the tweets and mods that I want. Anxious V30 module gives me updated camera features, plus dual speaker mode. With Xposed, I have the status bar icons I want. I have call auto recording, lots of other stuff. I see no reason to change right now.
I'm keeping the V35, of course -- and at some point may be my wife's "new" phone. I was just hoping for something as good as my V30+.
I waited 3 years between my 2014 Moto Quark and the 2017 LG V30, and I can wait another 3 years.