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Chance of root for 51.1.4.1?

Hi,
I thought about rooting my firetv and while checking the firmware version I noted that this thing apparently updates itself without asking... (I didn't use it for a while and thought it might still be on a rootable firmware).
I now took some precautions and blocked the update servers to prevent any further updates. But yeah, I'm on a firmware version that currently is unrootable and was wondering: Is there any chance someone will root this firmware? Are there any people actively working on finding exploits on the firetv or are they happy with their already rooted devices?
Regards,
Hidden

Hidden92 said:
Hi,
I thought about rooting my firetv and while checking the firmware version I noted that this thing apparently updates itself without asking... (I didn't use it for a while and thought it might still be on a rootable firmware).
I now took some precautions and blocked the update servers to prevent any further updates. But yeah, I'm on a firmware version that currently is unrootable and was wondering: Is there any chance someone will root this firmware? Are there any people actively working on finding exploits on the firetv or are they happy with their already rooted devices?
Regards,
Hidden
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To be honest, depend on what use you have for the FireTV, root is not necessary unless you want to do more than just use XBMC/Kodi. About people finding root for FireTV, you just have to wait. Most devs are busy porting Lollipop to old phones. Once somebody has free time, a root will be found for the FireTV. This is not the Apple TV 3rd generation, which is in root limbo for almost 3 years already.

i'd be doubtful on someone ever finding a software root for the fireTV specifically, there really isnt anyone actively developing anything for the FTV except rbox, if it gets rooted via software again.. its going to be an exploit developed for a different phone that just happens to work on the Firetv i bet.

Towelroot was developped after a bounty was set-up... maybe we could try the same thing ? I would find it ok to reward someone (and maybe amazon would see we want root / USB access...)

ChriKn said:
Towelroot was developped after a bounty was set-up... maybe we could try the same thing ? I would find it ok to reward someone (and maybe amazon would see we want root / USB access...)
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there was a bounty already.. it was paid out to jcase for root in the early days.. he chose to keep it private.. its possible towelroot was based on that same exploit but i dont know myself. Root on the newest firmware wont do much but allow you to enable USB support. Any custom recovery or custom firmware will not be possible with the current stuff we have available from rbox so i doubt anyone is going to put in too much effort into finding a new exploit.

nhumber said:
there was a bounty already.. it was paid out to jcase for root in the early days.. he chose to keep it private.. its possible towelroot was based on that same exploit but i dont know myself. Root on the newest firmware wont do much but allow you to enable USB support. Any custom recovery or custom firmware will not be possible with the current stuff we have available from rbox so i doubt anyone is going to put in too much effort into finding a new exploit.
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The root jcase had was a vulnerability in Android. Towelroot was a vulnerability in the kernel.
*IF* there ever is a new software root method for the FireTV, I would probably start up my work with Safestrap again. I did manage to get it somewhat working before I abandoned it for the bootloader unlock method.

vi6s said:
To be honest, depend on what use you have for the FireTV, root is not necessary unless you want to do more than just use XBMC/Kodi. About people finding root for FireTV, you just have to wait. Most devs are busy porting Lollipop to old phones. Once somebody has free time, a root will be found for the FireTV. This is not the Apple TV 3rd generation, which is in root limbo for almost 3 years already.
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rbox said:
The root jcase had was a vulnerability in Android. Towelroot was a vulnerability in the kernel.
*IF* there ever is a new software root method for the FireTV, I would probably start up my work with Safestrap again. I did manage to get it somewhat working before I abandoned it for the bootloader unlock method.
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rbox. Thats interesting. I wanted to give my parents a rooted device as the one I gave them was rooted but not blocked with updates. Therefore I purchased another one from amazon for 69 and thankfully got lucky. If root come out, then I'll have an extra as a backup.
With Root, there are a few things I personally like.
1. Google Play. Can buy emulators
2. Google Music
3. Power Options on Xbmx.
Currently I believe there is a hardware rooting method that has been released.

Forgive my ignorance...but I just bought a Fire TV yesterday with the hopes of being able to play movies off of my external HD by rooting it, installing XBMC, and side loading Stick Mount. What sort of options do I have now that I'm stuck on 51.1.4.1?

GNEXUZ said:
Forgive my ignorance...but I just bought a Fire TV yesterday with the hopes of being able to play movies off of my external HD by rooting it, installing XBMC, and side loading Stick Mount. What sort of options do I have now that I'm stuck on 51.1.4.1?
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Wait for root...
If you hook that drive up to another computer, you can probably share it from there. Without root, the FireTV USB is useless for storage.
I recently picked up a rootable FireTV from a local BestBuy, so they are still out there in the USA.

the fire tv i just got from amazon the other day was rootable it was on 51.1.01 so i would say if the one u have isnt rootable to return it and get another. make sure to block the updates so it wont update when u turn it on.

[Q] Verizon update and root access

I downloaded the Verizon update yesterday and it brought a question to mind. I am just curious about this. I do not have the DE, just the retail version. I assume in order to do the update as downloaded, the update had to somehow have root access. What makes the update so special it can achieve root access and many brilliant people can't? Is there something in the update that allows root access? If there is, what is so special about it that it couldnt be somehow extracted and used for other purposes? I have no knowledge in this area and am wondering if someone knows the answer.

bdraulston said:
I downloaded the Verizon update yesterday and it brought a question to mind. I am just curious about this. I do not have the DE, just the retail version. I assume in order to do the update as downloaded, the update had to somehow have root access. What makes the update so special it can achieve root access and many brilliant people can't? Is there something in the update that allows root access? If there is, what is so special about it that it couldnt be somehow extracted and used for other purposes? I have no knowledge in this area and am wondering if someone knows the answer.
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very elaborate signed keys. When the update comes from the phone, the phone is coded to look for specific signed authentic keys that gets created when samsung\verizon makes an update file. If the file is modified the update will fail because the keys wont match. A developer may be able to explain it in greater detail, but that's the tidbit i gathered

Certifi-Gate: Posibility for root? Only on Fire OS 5?

Hi everybody,
I'm new here and I'm not such a big export, so please don't get too mad with me for maybe being stupid.
I newly acquired a Fire TV Box. I first I was a bit annoyed that USB mount wasn't possible on stock, but then I heard that the newest update fixes that. So I updated to 51.1.6.2
Well, USB mount works now but only for FAT32 which is okay but not very convenient. So I started to look for root possibility and found out that on my version (and probably even on original FW) root is only possible by accessing eMMC through a hardware mod. While I might manage to solder that stuff I would prefer a software solution.
So today I read about the new-ish Certifi-Gate exploit and how an app on Play Store managed to do root funcunality on stock rom:
h***://***.zdnet.com/article/certifi-gate-is-alive-well-and-hiding-in-android-devices/
This article mentions that this is only possible on Android 5 API. Is that true? I didn't read about that in any other article.
Maybe it's possible to create an app along the lines of Recordable Activator that just installs the su binary and grants root access?
Maybe this in only possible on Fire OS 5 Dev Preview? But maybe it's possible to get root there and then downgrade to the more stable pre-rooted 51.1.6.2 Fire OS 3?
As you can see I have a lot of questions. Maybe somebody can enlighten me or even help setting this up.

Got an Amazon Fire TV 4K - Shall I update? What version is the best for me?

Hey guys,
we had a nice Fire TV 4K sale here in Germany and so I got that little box. However, now I am a bit confused and I hope that you could help me out.
Shall I update the box?
I learned that I need to root the Box in order to be able to connected my external HDD that is formated with NTFS. That is because originally the Fire TV does not support NTFS. I also learned that getting root is still possible with the newest two fireware versions but way more complicated because you need a A-to-A USB cable.
Of course I could block updates and just root the firmware that is currently installed. But I learned that Kodi is way better integrated into the interface of the newer firmwares. Is it possible to root the old firmware, do an OTA update and still have root on the newest firmware?
Since there are several firmwares out there. Is there any best firmware version that you recommend?

wohltat said:
Hey guys,
we had a nice Fire TV 4K sale here in Germany and so I got that little box. However, now I am a bit confused and I hope that you could help me out.
Shall I update the box?
I learned that I need to root the Box in order to be able to connected my external HDD that is formated with NTFS. That is because originally the Fire TV does not support NTFS. I also learned that getting root is still possible with the newest two fireware versions but way more complicated because you need a A-to-A USB cable.
Of course I could block updates and just root the firmware that is currently installed. But I learned that Kodi is way better integrated into the interface of the newer firmwares. Is it possible to root the old firmware, do an OTA update and still have root on the newest firmware?
Since there are several firmwares out there. Is there any best firmware version that you recommend?
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not sure if this will help.
http://www.aftvnews.com/everything-you-need-to-know-about-usb-storage-with-the-amazon-fire-tv/

You could go with either the latest 5.0.5.1 or with 5.0.5. I personally use 5.0.5 because I like using Firestarter to access all my sideloaded apps. Until Firestarter is officially updated by the programmer, you could use Firestopper which has been updated to work on 5.0.5.1.
I also wirelessly transfer movies to my external hard drive which is an NTFS drive so that I can have HD video. I have use the Kingroot method and the USB cable method. I'd also recommend aftvnews.com for guides as they are a great resource (especially for windows users). I also have guides for Mac users over at marksmods.com

How can I install the 5.0.5, I am still on the 5.0.3.1 and I guess the 5.0.5 would be better for me (used it on my aftv stick before) autoupdates will probably lead me to 5.0.5.1, which I try to avoid due to firestarter and sky go

shaDNfro said:
How can I install the 5.0.5, I am still on the 5.0.3.1 and I guess the 5.0.5 would be better for me (used it on my aftv stick before) autoupdates will probably lead me to 5.0.5.1, which I try to avoid due to firestarter and sky go
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http://www.aftvnews.com helped me a lot. You root with kingroot, install recovery, install prerooted 5.0.5.1. Just follow their instructions.

wohltat said:
http://www.aftvnews.com helped me a lot. You root with kingroot, install recovery, install prerooted 5.0.5.1. Just follow their instructions.
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Thx for your reply, I checked that page. But what I really want is the following:
I am currently under 5.0.3.1 original and I want to have 5.0.5 (not 5.0.5.1), but without root! (SkyGo does not run on rooted devices, if it detects root).
I could perform OTA update --> would lead me to 5.0.5.1
What I really want is a way to push the official 5.0.5 to my aftv (best withoug kingrooting, due to the fact you need a full whipe, wich may also then give problems to my sky go accounts, which are limmited).
Is there some way to get an official rom, which I then can push via adb or put it on my aftv, that the aftv detects it and installs it ?
(I can still block the ota update after I am on 5.0.5)...
Bests,
shaDN

Is no one providing the original rom? However, in order to install it, you would need to root and install a recovery first anyways. Just instead of installing a prerooted rom you would install a not rooted one.

hmm, there must be a way to place an update somewhere on the aftv, that the aftv recognizes it as an official update and install it...

just installed 5.0.4, then 5.0.5 then unplugged lan and blocked updates
I love the new update routine

Trying to root Toshiba 4k Amazon Fire TV

I have been searching around, and most of the exploits that I have found are either for different devices, or they are for older versions of the FireTV.
After trying Towelroot, the only other option that I can think of is Magisck root. I can push the app onto the device with adb, and get the zip installed, but I would like to make sure that my device will not brick after doing this. If it does brick, is there any stock firmware that I can flash on this TV that is confirmed to be working?
My FireTV home version is 6.0.4.3, and my Fire OS version is 6.2.4.2 if that helps anything.
I appreciate any and all replies. Lastly, I have considered Kingoroot, but from what I have read, they install adware with the root, but I am not certain as I have not rooted a phone in about a year or so, and I am sure that things are slightly different when installing to something like a TV.
I think that I can load a patched ROM through fastboot since I can connect to the TV, but I would like to make sure that I am doing this the most efficient way possible, and at the very least I hope that this can serve as help to people who also bought this TV and are looking to root it.

I dont think there are any exploits to root any of the fire TV's and more. No one is making customs roms or rooted updates. Even if you find a root, you can never get any updates. ADB Sideloading Apps works well on all devices though.