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Laza Zcell NFC 3800 mah Battery

I ordered one of these batteries on Thursday and it arrived on Saturday. It shipped from Indiana and I am in Chicago so your shipping times may vary. It was $19.99 on Amazon and I did not buy the case although I still might.
I have been running AllStars V5 since the day after it went up.
Day one:
Decent packaging definitely something I could see at a store. The battery itself is heavy, heavier I think than two stock batteries. The back cover is solid plastic with a rubberized coating on it. It still slips around on a table but feels very good in my hand. The extra bulk of the battery and case make my phone easier to grip and combined with the weight makes the phone feel much more substantial almost more well built. I was a little worried about the speaker as the back sits about centimeter further away from the speaker than the old one did, but the new cover has a sort of resonator chamber built in to direct the sound to the speaker grill. I might be imagining it but the internal speaker sounds a little better with the new cover. I do feel that the rubberized coating is going to wear off over time but we will see.
Installed battery at on one in the afternoon. Came with 76% charge. Used it normally the first day and at about 3 am it still had over 40% charge. Ran it down the rest of the way playing angry birds and using a flashlight app. Total time 16 Hours 6 Minutes. Quite awesome.
Day Two:
Pulled the phone off the charger at 2 PM with 100% charge. Set screen to always stay on and used phone to stream music over WiFi using a combination of Pandora, Songza and Google Music. Phone remained this way until 10:30 PM when I got off work. Phone still had 50% charge. Once home I ran the battery down the rest of the way using a flashlight app. Total run time 12 hours 57 Minutes. Equally awesome.
Days three and Four:
Pulled phone off charger at 1 PM. A few short calls some texts about an hours worth of streaming music. Nothing crazy. 65% as of 11:26PM. I am not going to charge it untill it dies.
Total run time 1 Day 13 Hours 58 minutes. Light usage as I was busy upgrading my MacBook to Mountain Lion & Windows 8 and my PC to Windows 8.
Day 5:
Phone died while I was sleeping and I was only able to charge it for a few hours before work. It is currently sitting at 45 %. I am planning on seeing if this gets me through the work day without any more charging.
Update:
I've fallen into the habit of charging my phone every other night. I really do not use my phone too terribly heavily. Anyhow last night was a charge night. Today I only got 12 hours of use. By use I mean pandora for the 7 hours of work and travel too and from work and some browsing of flip board here and there. If it fails again we will see how this companies RMA service is.

Do u have any real life pics of ur phone with battery on. Also i guess u gonna be caseless
I was looking at the case and it does really not protect that good. If u look at front screen shot u can see the silver from the top of phone and the bottom. But i will order the battery

I have this battery as well with the standard back and I have been thinking about a case but as of right now its been a pleasure to use. When I had the nexus extended battery I was worried about battery life. Last year my family and I too a family trip 3 states south from where we live and on that journey my phone roamed the majority of the time killing my battery life. With this battery, if we have to make that trip again then I feel confident that it will survive the trip with easy. I am a heavy user with all my radios on all the time and I get around 12 hours with 33% left average so I would recommend this battery pack its worth the money
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I have this battery too. It has worked well for me. I no longer have to charge twice a day.
There was also a case available on ebay which isnt very good but offers some protection for the phone. I have been unable to find any alternatives.
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How does the ratio of on time compare to screen time with all your test?

HTC One Battery Extender Case?

So the battery life absolutely sucks on my One. If I start using it at 8am its dead by 5 pm. And that's just normal usage like surfing the web over WiFi, playing games (candy crush, dots, angry birds space,) maybe watching a few short videos over WiFi and the occasional text message. I have a battery saver app and I can see that it helps but I guess there's only so much it can do,Z so I want to get one of those cases that has an external battery built in. I have a few questions.
1. Does anyone here use one of these? Please give your input.
2. What's the best one? I've done a little research and found that the i-Blason and Mophie ones seem to be most popular. They're both a bit pricey.
3. How do they work? Does the phone just start directly using the external power after you switch it on, or does it just charge the internal battery?
4. Can these things have any kind of adverse effects on the internal battery from odd charging voltage or anything like that?
5. Do they actually extend your battery time as advertised? I'd be happy with getting two full days out of a single charge and some of these things are advertised as extending it by more that 1.5x. It seems like if the external battery is just charging the internal battery it would be a bit less efficient than if it were directly powering the phone. Does that make sense? It just seems like there couldn't possibly be a direct conversion of 2300 mAh from one battery to completely charge another 2300 mAh battery.
I hope that wasn't too confusing. Personally, I can't wait until lithium-sulfur batteries are in all our electronic devices (potentially 4x energy density.) Google it. Sounds promising.
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JGress said:
So the battery life absolutely sucks on my One. If I start using it at 8am its dead by 5 pm. And that's just normal usage like surfing the web over WiFi, playing games (candy crush, dots, angry birds space,) maybe watching a few short videos over WiFi and the occasional text message. I have a battery saver app and I can see that it helps but I guess there's only so much it can do,Z so I want to get one of those cases that has an external battery built in. I have a few questions.
1. Does anyone here use one of these? Please give your input.
2. What's the best one? I've done a little research and found that the i-Blason and Mophie ones seem to be most popular. They're both a bit pricey.
3. How do they work? Does the phone just start directly using the external power after you switch it on, or does it just charge the internal battery?
4. Can these things have any kind of adverse effects on the internal battery from odd charging voltage or anything like that?
5. Do they actually extend your battery time as advertised? I'd be happy with getting two full days out of a single charge and some of these things are advertised as extending it by more that 1.5x. It seems like if the external battery is just charging the internal battery it would be a bit less efficient than if it were directly powering the phone. Does that make sense? It just seems like there couldn't possibly be a direct conversion of 2300 mAh from one battery to completely charge another 2300 mAh battery.
I hope that wasn't too confusing. Personally, I can't wait until lithium-sulfur batteries are in all our electronic devices (potentially 4x energy density.) Google it. Sounds promising.
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1. I don't use these so I can't comment on this.
2. The iBlason and Mophie are the only ones available that I have ever seen. The Mophie being the higher quality (materials not necessarily battery life) of the two but also twice the price.
3. The phone will use the battery cases charge first then once that is drained use the phones internal battery. However if your phone battery isn't fully charged and you plug a charged case into it, it will charge the phone.
4. It's a good question and I'm not 100% sure. If you use it properly it shouldn't cause any major issues. Using it "properly" meaning your phone has full charge when it is paired with case so that the case isn't charging the phone. That being said, the damage is no different than someone constantly charging and discharging their phone in short bursts rather than using it until it's dead (or as close to possible) and then fully charging. The big thing to be aware of is that the damage caused is simply a reduced battery capacity and usually isn't big enough to notice during the life span of the phone (1 to 2 years).
5. Yes they do. Some of the claims may be a little higher than life experience, but nothing drastic. It litterally adds a second battery to your phone, so it IS going to extend the battery life quite noticeably.
One thing though, I have had my HTC One for a month or so now and have kept it stock, occassionally trying custom roms, but always going back. I have consistently been able to get over a full days use with WiFi always on, GPS always off, brightness always on auto, and I have exchange synced and set to push notifications. I am constantly checking email and texting for work as well as browsing the internet and Google Currents. I also have the power saver turned on. A full day use for me being from 8am to around 12am.
I think either something is wrong with your phone, you are playing too many games, or some setting or service is draining your battery. I would post your battery usage here for some to inspect. And it might be a good idea to uninstall the batter saver app, they usually don't make any huge dent on battery life that can't be done without the app, since most rely on a polling service that runs in the background and eat up battery life themselves. Just make sure your sync settings are reasonable (not every 5 minutes), turn off GPS and only turn it on when needed, don't turn on WiFi unless you need it, turn off 4G unless you need it (switch to CDMA only in mobile settings), enable eco mode (power saver that throttles CPU based on usage), and make sure brightness is set to auto or a medium to dim setting.
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Mostly right. I'll toss out though that cases have different current outputs-- the mophie cases will output at a high enough rate to cause a phone to register as being on AC. the i-Blason case charges at about a third of that rate, meaning that it'll trickle charge your phone/reduce power consumption rate, but it won't outright charge unless you're not using it.

JGress said:
So the battery life absolutely sucks on my One. If I start using it at 8am its dead by 5 pm. And that's just normal usage like surfing the web over WiFi, playing games (candy crush, dots, angry birds space,) maybe watching a few short videos over WiFi and the occasional text message. I have a battery saver app and I can see that it helps but I guess there's only so much it can do,Z so I want to get one of those cases that has an external battery built in. I have a few questions.
1. Does anyone here use one of these? Please give your input.
2. What's the best one? I've done a little research and found that the i-Blason and Mophie ones seem to be most popular. They're both a bit pricey.
3. How do they work? Does the phone just start directly using the external power after you switch it on, or does it just charge the internal battery?
4. Can these things have any kind of adverse effects on the internal battery from odd charging voltage or anything like that?
5. Do they actually extend your battery time as advertised? I'd be happy with getting two full days out of a single charge and some of these things are advertised as extending it by more that 1.5x. It seems like if the external battery is just charging the internal battery it would be a bit less efficient than if it were directly powering the phone. Does that make sense? It just seems like there couldn't possibly be a direct conversion of 2300 mAh from one battery to completely charge another 2300 mAh battery.
I hope that wasn't too confusing. Personally, I can't wait until lithium-sulfur batteries are in all our electronic devices (potentially 4x energy density.) Google it. Sounds promising.
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1. I've used one for about 2 days. I returned it. It works well and the Mophie definitely feels of high quality and feels great in hand. However it makes the sleek device very big and bulky.
2. I would recommend the Mophie purchased at your local corporate carrier store, reason being is that usually your carrier will offer a 1 yr warranty on a premium case like this. However if you break or it shows ridiculous wear and tear they wont. I cannot comment on I-Blason's warranty. Although I think the Mophie is perhaps more expensive. Some carrier offer discounts based on employer's of the account owner. So that might help get the case cheaper.
3. See comment below
4. Usually since they're molded directly to fit your device, most manufacturer's will accommodate the OEM's requirements. But the Mophie charges as fast as it would if you had plugged it into an AC charger.
5. This question is a bit more confusing for me to answer. All I can say is that if they advertise a 100% charge then that means they're matching the mAh capacity of the device. (Ex. phone model has a 2000mAh battery internal and the case advertises 100%, then that means the external battery is also rated at 2000mAh.) So in reality if you're expecting a complete 100% charge while your device is still on, then no, you may get from 1% up to 70-90% depending on how much you're using it while its charging.
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3. The phone will use the battery cases charge first then once that is drained use the phones internal battery. However if your phone battery isn't fully charged and you plug a charged case into it, it will charge the phone.
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This is not entirely true. Because the Mophie has an on/off switch. So if the case is set to off, it'll use the internal battery first, then you need to switch the battery case to on to begin charging the internal battery. It is entirely possible to use the phone till it completely shuts down when it run out of juice and the Mophie have a full charge.
It uses the same charger as the phone itself so the case never has to come off, however even if the switch is set to off it'll charge both items at the same time.

adamjamess said:
1. I've used one for about 2 days. I returned it. It works well and the Mophie definitely feels of high quality and feels great in hand. However it makes the sleek device very big and bulky.
2. I would recommend the Mophie purchased at your local corporate carrier store, reason being is that usually your carrier will offer a 1 yr warranty on a premium case like this. However if you break or it shows ridiculous wear and tear they wont. I cannot comment on I-Blason's warranty. Although I think the Mophie is perhaps more expensive. Some carrier offer discounts based on employer's of the account owner. So that might help get the case cheaper.
3. See comment below
4. Usually since they're molded directly to fit your device, most manufacturer's will accommodate the OEM's requirements. But the Mophie charges as fast as it would if you had plugged it into an AC charger.
5. This question is a bit more confusing for me to answer. All I can say is that if they advertise a 100% charge then that means they're matching the mAh capacity of the device. (Ex. phone model has a 2000mAh battery internal and the case advertises 100%, then that means the external battery is also rated at 2000mAh.) So in reality if you're expecting a complete 100% charge while your device is still on, then no, you may get from 1% up to 70-90% depending on how much you're using it while its charging.
This is not entirely true. Because the Mophie has an on/off switch. So if the case is set to off, it'll use the internal battery first, then you need to switch the battery case to on to begin charging the internal battery. It is entirely possible to use the phone till it completely shuts down when it run out of juice and the Mophie have a full charge.
It uses the same charger as the phone itself so the case never has to come off, however even if the switch is set to off it'll charge both items at the same time.
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I was not aware they had an on off switch, that would change the way the phone handles the device and give you a bit of flexability in how you use it, which is good.
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adamjamess said:
This is not entirely true. Because the Mophie has an on/off switch. So if the case is set to off, it'll use the internal battery first, then you need to switch the battery case to on to begin charging the internal battery. It is entirely possible to use the phone till it completely shuts down when it run out of juice and the Mophie have a full charge.
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I wonder if it would use the case battery first if you turned it on when both are 100% charged. Everywhere I've read, people seem to use them to charge the phone after the battery gets low. It would be great if the phone would just draw power from the case until it dies and flip over to the phone battery. I feel like that would keep the phone battery more healthy by avoiding inconsistent charging. If you're constantly killing the phone battery and using the case to recharge to less than 100%, then killing it again... it just seems like that would be bad for the battery.
Thanks everyone for the input! Keep it coming!

JGress said:
I wonder if it would use the case battery first if you turned it on when both are 100% charged. Everywhere I've read, people seem to use them to charge the phone after the battery gets low. It would be great if the phone would just draw power from the case until it dies and flip over to the phone battery. I feel like that would keep the phone battery more healthy by avoiding inconsistent charging. If you're constantly killing the phone battery and using the case to recharge to less than 100%, then killing it again... it just seems like that would be bad for the battery.
Thanks everyone for the input! Keep it coming!
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Good question. My thoughts would be that the phone would only draw enough to keep topped off. So I guess if the switch is left to the on position the whole time you would get the desired effect of draining the external pack first. But I would guess that doing that would reduce the efficiency of the case somehow.
In the end whether your constantly killing and charging your battery no matter to 90% or 100% with the case or A.C. charger, doing it more often will kill your battery either way. Given lithium ion batteries are way more forgiving than the old cadmium based ones that built up a memory of sorts.
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To keep the battery healthy in a phone, make sure you charge to 100% each time. You don't need to fully drain battery, it's actually healthier to go from 50% to 100% than 1% to 100%.
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pewpewbangbang said:
To keep the battery healthy in a phone, make sure you charge to 100% each time. You don't need to fully drain battery, it's actually healthier to go from 50% to 100% than 1% to 100%.
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So if my phone only gets down to about 40% each night before I plug it in to charge all night I'm ok? In the back of my head I'm always wondering if I need to drain it all the way sometime.

Philmize said:
So if my phone only gets down to about 40% each night before I plug it in to charge all night I'm ok? In the back of my head I'm always wondering if I need to drain it all the way sometime.
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You are fine, it's better to not drain the battery all the time. It lasts longer if there's charge left. You just have to make sure your fully charging to 100% and not charging only to 70% or something like that. This is how lithium batteries work in all devices, laptops etc...
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And either way you wouldn't notice the loss in capacity until you at least 2-3 years out.
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So I've been thinking about this a lot over the past few days and I have something else i want to throw out there...
If you have your phone plugged in to a charger while at full charge, you can use it all you want and it will never go below %100. Does this mean that it's completely drawing power from the charger, or is it still drawing power from the battery, which is just constantly being topped off? Because I know I can completely remove the battery from my laptop and as long as it's plugged in to the charger, it will continue to function just fine.
If the phone is drawing 100% power from the charger, doesn't that mean that it would do the same for one of these battery extender cases?
Like I said before, I think that would be a lot more efficient that just using the case to recharge your phone's battery after it gets low. This way you sort of cut out the middle man.

BTW... I found that there was a weather app that I think was constantly trying to access my location even though I have location services turned off. I now get a good 10 hours of battery life with moderate usage. Still want a battery extender case. 2 full days would be awesome.

HTC battery life DOES suck compared what it can do because you are not going to buy a phone like this if you wont chat/text/call/email/play games alot. Mine lasts 10-15hours (usualy 2.5-3hours screen time and NEVER more than 3) and thats annoyng because its ok if im just ordinary home-work-home rezime but if i need to go out of the city for lets day 2-3 days - im screwed and allways must think about charging.
I have overlooked everything nothing wrong with the phone - the battery is just too small.
i keep wifi ,gps and bt off if i dont need them but my phone ofcourse syncs everything (thats the point of a smartphone - to be connected!) and i play often also.

JGress said:
So I've been thinking about this a lot over the past few days and I have something else i want to throw out there...
If you have your phone plugged in to a charger while at full charge, you can use it all you want and it will never go below %100. Does this mean that it's completely drawing power from the charger, or is it still drawing power from the battery, which is just constantly being topped off? Because I know I can completely remove the battery from my laptop and as long as it's plugged in to the charger, it will continue to function just fine.
If the phone is drawing 100% power from the charger, doesn't that mean that it would do the same for one of these battery extender cases?
Like I said before, I think that would be a lot more efficient that just using the case to recharge your phone's battery after it gets low. This way you sort of cut out the middle man.
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Nope its being topped off, phones are all about maximizing space in the phone, it would require more wiring for the motherboard to be able to draw power directly from the micro usb port as well as the battery. For example, my Samsung phones can be plugged in but if I take the battery out the phone turns off.
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I got this one - all day w/o charging w very heavy usage. Traveling w/o signal - 2-3 days no charge. Makes the phone bigger and you can't see the gorgeousness of the phone, but it protects it all around and it lets those 4 cores and crazy display to do its job w/o dying on you fast.
This guy sells them for $20. Have seen them in other sites for $70-130. Same exact model.
http://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/e1140...&exe=10013&ext=100025&sojTags=exe=exe,ext=ext

InterFace86 said:
HTC battery life DOES suck compared what it can do because you are not going to buy a phone like this if you wont chat/text/call/email/play games alot. Mine lasts 10-15hours (usualy 2.5-3hours screen time and NEVER more than 3) and thats annoyng because its ok if im just ordinary home-work-home rezime but if i need to go out of the city for lets day 2-3 days - im screwed and allways must think about charging.
I have overlooked everything nothing wrong with the phone - the battery is just too small.
i keep wifi ,gps and bt off if i dont need them but my phone ofcourse syncs everything (thats the point of a smartphone - to be connected!) and i play often also.
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You just don't know how to manage wakelocks. Do some reading. Mine lasts almost 2 days with 5 hours screen on time.
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1. I have the i-Blason black.
As a Case
Pros: Great volume controls, Black matches the black HTC One and the black earbud plug, kickstand, central USB plug.
Cons: Thick, Gets Warn when plugged in
3. There's a button that turns charging from the case on or off. Phone will be like it's externally charging.
4. The i-Blason is a lower current charging, so there's a warning that pops up. I think it's not harmful.
5. Extends, yes. But >1 day, no. Well, if you're not using the phone, yes, > 1day. What I do is I let it charge the phone when I'm not near a usb plug and it gets < 80%, then i let it trickle back to 100% in about an hour. It automatically stops charging the phone at 100%.

Learn how to manage your phone guys. Track down the offenders instead of buying these battery packs and other nonsense.
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Battery Life Discussion

Please discuss your battery life here.

Figured it out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGNEgDGvFr4
From 2:45 it had 69%
to 7:19 it had 64%
so around 1% PER MINUTE when it use!!!!

Well, I hope the battery is 500-600 mHa. That would give the 360 about a 2 day and a bit life between charging. I just wish Motorola would release the specs!!!!

Smartwatches are going to seriously need the ability to generate power from the motion of wearing them. Or an internal nuclear-decay power source. I really like the 360, but think we may still be a generation early on low-power screens and chips to be able to make a thin watch that will last for 3 to 5 days, which would be ideal.

I would rather have quick and easy charging than 2 day life. I would much rather have a smaller/thinner watch than one that can go for three days for no reason (we have electricity in our house!). Why would you not charge it at night? The only scenario I can think of is if you forget by accident or don't seat it in a charger properly. A day charge while you **** shower and shave fixes that better than a bigger battery you have to lug around the other 364 days a year.
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Note10.1Dude said:
Smartwatches are going to seriously need the ability to generate power from the motion of wearing them. Or an internal nuclear-decay power source. I really like the 360, but think we may still be a generation early on low-power screens and chips to be able to make a thin watch that will last for 3 to 5 days, which would be ideal.
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Smartwatches are tough with screens on such a small device its hard to get enough battery to power it for long. This kinetic energy idea would really be brilliant I don't know what the conversions would be but I mean my watch that I have now runs only on kinetic energy, granted theres no display but it has to provide some energy no? Maybe a combo of a battery, kinetic, and solar power could give smartwatches the extra juice they need?

bbish937 said:
This kinetic energy idea would really be brilliant I don't know what the conversions would be but I mean my watch that I have now runs only on kinetic energy, granted theres no display but it has to provide some energy no?
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Forget kinetic, if by kinetic you mean the wrist movements. It's not even remotely possible to use. There are some variations that could work:
http://www.thinkbiologic.com/reviews/2010/09/wired-review-reecharge
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/332999904/the-siva-cycle-atom-powering-your-life-one-pedal-a
http://www.ippinka.com/blog/big-rig-charge-your-laptop-by-exercising/
Wireless charging stations spreading to shop counters, restaurants, coffee houses stand a better chance.
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Smartwatches are going to seriously need the ability to generate power from the motion of wearing them.
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It's going to take a while. A really long while. Very, very long. Have a look at regular watches, not mechanical, but kinetically charged quartz. How long did that take to develop? 18 years, at Seiko, and not long after, Citizen just overtook the tech with solar charging. Quartz watches are incredibly frugal. Quartz, an amazing achievement that took at least 30 years to develop for the wrist, and to industrialize. Trivialized today, but when it happened it was amazing. For a while there was also tech that used the body's chemistry to charge the batteries, but it wasn't really competitive, not even for frugal quartz watches. What we call smartwatches are in a different league though, microcomputers, with processors, radios, colorscreens... which are just beginning to be able to last a couple of days of battery power. Being small enough to fit on a wrist is an incredible development in and of itself. Kinetic charging from the wrist - run a marathon and your smartwatch, through a kinetic charger, would last perhaps a few seconds, not enough to even boot up. So kinetic, good luck.

The following article states that the moto 360 will have a battery life of around a week - with wireless charging.
http://www.theverge.com/2014/7/15/5903241/i-saw-a-moto-360-this-morning
If this is the case, and as per the article - it states that the moto 360 will have more improvements before release - I'd be happy with the 1 week battery life!

I think the week without charging is if you keep screen off. Every demo I have seen the screen is automatically off and when they wake it the screen turns on.

I doubt I will have any issues with battery life with the 360. The way that this is meant to be used is mainly as a watch. Lift your arm, check the time and you're done. You can also check the weather, but how often do you really do that? The other thing that having this on your wrist will do is provide very quick access to notifications. When I'm in a meeting at work, and my phone vibrates in my pocket. Now I wonder if it's worth it to pull my phone out in front of everyone, unlock the screen, pull down my notification and read it. that's a lot of steps just to see if it's important and potentially distracting to the meeting. With the 360, I get a vibrate, and smoothly lift my wrist as if to check to the time, and the notification will be right there and i'm done.
People shouldn't be using their smartwatch to brows the internet, type, or do anything other than a quick glance, in my opinion. In most cases, you will want to just pull your phone out for productivity purposes.
Anyways, I'm not even the least bit worried about battery life. I just want it now!!

A good idea would be to house power source in the straps.

Note10.1Dude said:
Smartwatches are going to seriously need the ability to generate power from the motion of wearing them. Or an internal nuclear-decay power source. I really like the 360, but think we may still be a generation early on low-power screens and chips to be able to make a thin watch that will last for 3 to 5 days, which would be ideal.
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See I don't understand this...why do people need 3-5 day battery life? Your phone doesn't last that long...so why would a device that basically DEPENDS on it?

hotleadsingerguy said:
See I don't understand this...why do people need 3-5 day battery life? Your phone doesn't last that long...so why would a device that basically DEPENDS on it?
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Coming from a pebble -
It's actually quite nice to use the alarm on the watch. It vibrates and wakes you up (quite well, I might add), without waking up the person next to you.
Having to take the watch off to charge kind of loses that ability.
Having a custom charger, I prefer not to bring the charger around with me, lest it get lost/broken (in which case you're kind of screwed).
So it's very nice to be able to top off on friday, and then do whatever on the weekend (camp, out of town, whatever) without worrying about losing power.
Phones are a different beast, since everyone has a microusb cable. (kind of).
And a side worry - if you can just 'get through' a full day and then need to charge - what happens when the battery starts to degrade, like all batteries do?
Going from one full day to less than a full day is totally unacceptable since it's a custom charger. Going from multiple days to less is tolerable.
I'd say nobody NEEDS 3+ days. But let me tell you - I sure will miss it.

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A good idea would be to house power source in the straps.
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No, thank you. Every watch I've owned, the strap is the first thing to fail.If there's no standard, user-replaceable strap, I'm not buying your smartwatch.

The verge said that it last only 12Hrs, less if heavy used.
WSJ said it has to be charged twice a day.
Root cause of the bad battery life might be the fact that it uses a discontinued TI processor, the fact that Android Wear is having on resources and that it has only 320mah, for reference thr LG G watch has 400mah.
Suddenly I don't want it anymore. My Gear fit last from 3 to 5 days depending on usage.

I agree 12 hours.... glad it did not go on sale in Canada.
Average day 6 am to 11 pm .....

Guys....the battery life I am seeing so far is horrible! I took it out of the box at 18%. It started to update and got so low it told me to charge. Wouldn't do anything until I charged it. I let it get to 35% and started again. After the update and finally getting connected to my phone...it's at 14% again. I tried to use it and it's sooooo laggy. I just rebooted it again to see if there was something going on. It's sitting on charger at 13%.

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Guys....the battery life I am seeing so far is horrible! I took it out of the box at 18%. It started to update and got so low it told me to charge. Wouldn't do anything until I charged it. I let it get to 35% and started again. After the update and finally getting connected to my phone...it's at 14% again. I tried to use it and it's sooooo laggy. I just rebooted it again to see if there was something going on. It's sitting on charger at 13%.
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This is making me regret dropping the $265 I did on it

EVOme said:
Guys....the battery life I am seeing so far is horrible! I took it out of the box at 18%. It started to update and got so low it told me to charge. Wouldn't do anything until I charged it. I let it get to 35% and started again. After the update and finally getting connected to my phone...it's at 14% again. I tried to use it and it's sooooo laggy. I just rebooted it again to see if there was something going on. It's sitting on charger at 13%.
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Similar issues here. Trying to pair with phone and getting the watch setup it, I went from 32% to 16% very quickly. Charging now to full and will see how it lasts from full charge. Maybe just requires some conditioning?

At the rate the battery is draining I have a hard time believing I could get 8hrs on a charge. I turned the ambient feature off to conserve battery. It disconnects from phone while it's charging. Well, doesnt get notifcations while charging.
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She's at 70%. Will let you guys know tonight now the battery does from full. Not sure why no other watch battery is like the Gear. My Gear 2 lasted at least 4 days on a charge.

sudden battery life swan dive on both of my newer hwatches

i have both a silver and black hwatch, neither of which are more than a few months old. ive had a hwatch using the same mostly black watch face and the same brightness and tilt to wake settings since 11/2015 so im pretty familiar with my battery. normally at the end of a day im at 40% or so, 25% if its been a really long 18-20h day. plenty of battery to never worry about having to get it to a charger mid-day, even if i got out after my 12h shift at work. last wed i was wearing my black watch and leaving said 12h shift and noticed my face was dark, and my battery saver was on because i was only at 9%. didnt think much of it, every now and then i have a hiccup and a simple power cycle and full charge fixes it. but the next day my silver one also was struggling to make it through a non-work day. i hadnt made any recent changes or installed any new apps. the fairly terrible wear battery stats listed watch idle highest at around 7-8%, followed by screen, daily tracking and up at 1-3% each. i dont use the daily tracking app, but there doesnt appear to be a way to disable it, so no new pattern changes. my pixel did upgrade to oreo on 8/21, but i had no issues that day or the next. figured a factory reset may be in order, so i reset the black hwatch but the same problems persist. im not usually getting quite down to battery saver by the end of the day, but i definitely need to put it on the charger as soon as i get home and today my silver watch did run all the way down kind of out of nowhere, since it didnt come off the charger until around 10am and was at 15% by 10-1015pm. any thoughts?

They are simply useless watches!
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i have both a silver and black hwatch, neither of which are more than a few months old. ive had a hwatch using the same mostly black watch face and the same brightness and tilt to wake settings since 11/2015 so im pretty familiar with my battery. normally at the end of a day im at 40% or so, 25% if its been a really long 18-20h day. plenty of battery to never worry about having to get it to a charger mid-day, even if i got out after my 12h shift at work. last wed i was wearing my black watch and leaving said 12h shift and noticed my face was dark, and my battery saver was on because i was only at 9%. didnt think much of it, every now and then i have a hiccup and a simple power cycle and full charge fixes it. but the next day my silver one also was struggling to make it through a non-work day. i hadnt made any recent changes or installed any new apps. the fairly terrible wear battery stats listed watch idle highest at around 7-8%, followed by screen, daily tracking and up at 1-3% each. i dont use the daily tracking app, but there doesnt appear to be a way to disable it, so no new pattern changes. my pixel did upgrade to oreo on 8/21, but i had no issues that day or the next. figured a factory reset may be in order, so i reset the black hwatch but the same problems persist. im not usually getting quite down to battery saver by the end of the day, but i definitely need to put it on the charger as soon as i get home and today my silver watch did run all the way down kind of out of nowhere, since it didnt come off the charger until around 10am and was at 15% by 10-1015pm. any thoughts?
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Unfortunately my new H W2 Classic (bought only 20 days ago) battery life is about 4-5 hours when worn on hand, ADO ON, WiFI OFF, Brightness 3, Wrist Gestures OFF, Tilt to Display is ON.
At these same settings when i place the watch on my table, it will last for less than 6 hours and I wake up to a watch running on fumes!
I am returning it as I read so many people have done so with defective batteries, MOST certainly.
Good luck finding someone willing to share any real useful info, AS no one seems to know what the heck is happening!
Personally, I think these watches are CHEAPLY BUILT.
MY SMASUNG GEAR S3 IS NOT MUCH BETTER EITHER, though it is supposed to be KOREAN!!!
I am really disappointed with these HUGE names who fail to make a simple watch! TAKE A LESSON FROM APPLE! Limited functionality but even their Model 2 (which I have) does more than these watches and with real battery life that lasts at least a day!
Now, we wait for Apple to make their watches run on Android!
One thing to note, as I am writing this response I noticed the Power Usage on my watch increased 3% by Google Play Services and my battery dropped from 83% to 79% in about 3 minutes! Sure at this rate I will have no power in about an hour and a half! Could it be Google Play Services killing these watches?!

I've always had fantastic battery life on my original until the last few months

Question Questions for Google Pixel 6 Users specifically

Hi everyone I just wanted to know from the Google Pixel 6 owners/users specifically.
How hot does the Google Pixel 6 get? Is it unbearable to hold in your hand when it gets too hot.
Is the texture of the phone slippery?
How long does the battery last? Would it get you through a full day?
What’s your overall experience using your Google Pixel 6 day to day? (The UI)

1. Hottest i have seen mine is 45c but it was in direct sunshine which exacerbates heating tremendously. It has never been unbearable to hold but if you are somewhere that is very hot (im in the UK where we think 20c is a hot summers day) I'd imagine its going to get rather toasty.
2. Like a bar of wet soap on national see how slippy you can make a bar of wet soap day.
3. I've never run flat in a days use no matter what i have done and i have never had the battery saver kick in.
4. Great.

I know mine has been hot because I have one of my battery apps set to warn me when it gets over a certain temperature. But I use mine in an OtterBox Defender so I don't know how hot it would actually feel against my hand. Mine usually gets hot when I'm both actively using the phone in some fashion, and either charging or have the phone plugged into the car so running Android Auto (when I'm stopped and in Park, if it's not obvious ).
Again, I use the OtterBox Defender - however for the short period of time I didn't have a case on the phone back in late October and November, I didn't have any problems with the phone slipping in my hands. To contrast, the Samsung Note 10+ (loved the hardware, hated the software) was so slippery that on both my couch-side and bed-side tables, I would lay the phone down fully and seemingly securely on either of them and many multiple times in a few minutes I would hear the phone fall to the floor. The Samsung also slipped out of my hand multiple times, but luckily nothing ever broke. I did have mine out of a case for longer because it was when COVID started and it was tougher to find a good deal on the OtterBox Defender.
50% of my battery usually lasts me 24 hours. I never fast charge my phone, I only let the battery get down to 25%, and I have my rooted phone set to stop charging at 75%. That 50% range normally lasts me all day. Even with that root charge limiter, I never charge my phone while I'm sleeping, either.
Overall I'm happy with the UI on the Pixel 6 Pro. I do use Nova Launcher Prime, as I always do.

jintogens said:
Hi everyone I just wanted to know from the Google Pixel 6 owners/users specifically.
How hot does the Google Pixel 6 get? Is it unbearable to hold in your hand when it gets too hot.
Is the texture of the phone slippery?
How long does the battery last? Would it get you through a full day?
What’s your overall experience using your Google Pixel 6 day to day? (The UI)
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1. Depends on many variables (e.g. ambient temperature) and users experience. People have reported it does run hot and others have reported it doesn't. Personally, my phone has never gotten so hot that it is unbearable to hold in your hand (I do use a case).
2. Yes, extremely slippery.
3. Again, this is very much dependent on how the user uses their phone, what apps they have installed and running in the background, etc.. I can easily get through a whole day with the way I use my phone and the apps, etc. I have installed.
4. Great

Hi,
1. I'm using the Google case and rarely feel the heat. Historically, it only went warm when the room temperature is warm as well.
2. As above, I'm using the case and it's never slippery to my mind.
3. The way I'm using it (Reddit, Twitter, YT, Twitch, browsing, I can tell you I never make it through the day without charging at least once.
According to AccuBattery, my average screen on time is 8h and 40minutes (though I have my phone set to charge to 90% max).
I wouldn't mind much charging it but the fact the charging is VERY slow, I'm considering changing it despite the pretty pictures it can take (coming from op6t).
EDIT : When travelling, I always have my external battery with me, due to the phone never making the full day (9-5pm) [no intense use].
4. UI wise is as good as on my op6t (oxygen), using Nova prime on both.
Bests,
Starcom