[S9/S9+] Auto-Brightness flickers in dark environments - Samsung Galaxy S9 Questions & Answers

Hello!
Can you guys test the auto-brightness in dark environments?
My screen flickers shortly before the auto-brightness function find the best brightness.
Unfortunately, I can´t make a video, because this is the only phone I have.
The screen don´t flicker everytime, only when the auto-brightness go under 20% and stops shortly before.
Is it a hardware issue, the new update or the software total. I have the S9+ since yesterday.

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Backlight Flickering

Guys how are you doing? I'm having a strange issue with my phone, i've searched the forum about it but couldn't find anything about it other than a couple of messages without any conclusion. This problem is mostly noticeable when having the screen in minimum brightness, it's like the backlight flickers a bit. If writing an SMS for example, whenever you press a keyboard key the screen flickers (it's very faint but noticeable). Also, when you open any app, it's like the brightness goes up a bit and down again, it's a very strange issue. Is anyone having this problem? Seems to be a software glitch because if you leave the phone in a static screen, that doesn't happen. It's updated to the latest fw version btw, it always happened.
To make it clear (and if anyone wants to try it), this happens with auto brightness, and the slider set to the minimum in a dark condition, whenever the brightness is medium/high at least i can't notice it.

Autobrightness issue

Hi all, despite 3.2.6 update which has improved auto brightness performance, is still quite far from being good.
The problem is when the phone is unlocked directly under light or in bright environment. After moving to darker environment the display doesn't dim by itself. It has to be turned off and on to successfully adapt. But in opposite way, it works. When turned on in dark, it adapts correctly after going to the light.
It has to be issue within OOS, because on customs roms (cm,aosp based) autobrightness works perfectly. Maybe it is weird but it's bothering me quite a lot
Is there any way how to fix it? Other then install lux, which breaks ability to give permissions due to overlay error.
capt_f0r3st said:
Hi all, despite 3.2.6 update which has improved auto brightness performance, is still quite far from being good.
The problem is when the phone is unlocked directly under light or in bright environment. After moving to darker environment the display doesn't dim by itself. It has to be turned off and on to successfully adapt. But in opposite way, it works. When turned on in dark, it adapts correctly after going to the light.
It has to be issue within OOS, because on customs roms (cm,aosp based) autobrightness works perfectly. Maybe it is weird but it's bothering me quite a lot
Is there any way how to fix it? Other then install lux, which breaks ability to give permissions due to overlay error.
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According to Carl Pie, OnePlus messed up initially on the auto brightness. However, they have rectified it and the current stock implementation is as follows: when you move to a brighter area and unlock the screen, the screen immediately adjusts for the light making the display brighter. But when you move to a darker area, the adjustment is not immediate but it will darken slowly. This is intentional. After moving to a darker area, leave the screen on for sometime and check whether it darkens. If even after some time it doesn't, then it is an issue.

Adaptive Brightness Issues

With adaptive brightness on my screen frequently (every 20 seconds or so) changes brightness slightly even when the ambient light isn't changing. It's very annoying when reading and most noticeable with light backgrounds.
Is this a common issue or does it sound like I have a defective sensor?
dmacarth said:
With adaptive brightness on my screen frequently (every 20 seconds or so) changes brightness slightly even when the ambient light isn't changing. It's very annoying when reading and most noticeable with light backgrounds.
Is this a common issue or does it sound like I have a defective sensor?
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Same here.
So annoying I had to turn adaptive off.
Seems to be when I move, probably changing sensor and it's too sensitive. My head mush change/reflect light on sensor
Anyway it's so distracting that I can't use adaptive brightness, except when pitch dark I can set to 0% adaptive to have lowest light output
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Yep, reminds me of a disco strobe light!
No issues here. I actually think the brightness swing is much better than the OG Pixel XL. I can just leave the setting at 50%. On the OG XL I'd have to turn the brightness down in the living room with lighting from 1 lamp and a tv because it'd be burning my retinas.
I installed Lux Dash and disabled "adaptive brightness" and let Lux handle it. You can go into the profile editor for Lux and setup different presets for different levels of light, you can also adjust the min and max allowed brightness and even setup how you want it to adjust brightness (fade, only set on unlock, dynamic, etc)
It has really made this screen amazing and even helps with battery because most the day my screen doesn't go above 15-20%
AndrasLOHF said:
No issues here. I actually think the brightness swing is much better than the OG Pixel XL. I can just leave the setting at 50%. On the OG XL I'd have to turn the brightness down in the living room with lighting from 1 lamp and a tv because it'd be burning my retinas.
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I've been fine here with the Adaptive Brightness too. Doesn't change too often at all for me.
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I installed Lux also and that did the trick. I assume the sensor is fine since Lux uses it with no problem. It's odd that some of us are having problems and others aren't but it doesn't seem to be a sensor issue.
Having this same issue any solution?
Mzzyhmd said:
Having this same issue any solution?
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I'm curious but how exactly is it reacting for you? Are you just sitting in bed with the lights on and it's still adjusting up and down the brightness? Cause that's what I'm doing right now and it hasn't fluctuated at all. If I put it on the bedside table it'll brighten up and when I pick it up it dims but that's it.
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Yeah that's too much fluctuations don't you think I mean on my iPhone x or any other iPhone that I have have used so far I never could tell that the adaptive brightness was on but this device does it in an obvious way and way too frequently that im not sure anymore if this is what it's supposed to do I chatted with a Google agent and they forced quit ambient service thing from system apps and I think that still didn't resolve the issue. I will pop up in a vz store tomorrow and check out if their display devices are doing the same
Mzzyhmd said:
Yeah that's too much fluctuations don't you think I mean on my iPhone x or any other iPhone that I have have used so far I never could tell that the adaptive brightness was on but this device does it in an obvious way and way too frequently that im not sure anymore if this is what it's supposed to do I chatted with a Google agent and they forced quit ambient service thing from system apps and I think that still didn't resolve the issue. I will pop up in a vz store tomorrow and check out if their display devices are doing the same
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I'm curious to hear what the tell you. Lux has helped me a lot bit I still notice it. To be fair I think I only notice in a dim or dark room with the TV on but this is the first phone I've used where it's noticeable to me. I'm also wondering if this is how it's supposed to work or if there's something wrong with my phone.
Mzzyhmd said:
Yeah that's too much fluctuations don't you think I mean on my iPhone x or any other iPhone that I have have used so far I never could tell that the adaptive brightness was on but this device does it in an obvious way and way too frequently that im not sure anymore if this is what it's supposed to do I chatted with a Google agent and they forced quit ambient service thing from system apps and I think that still didn't resolve the issue. I will pop up in a vz store tomorrow and check out if their display devices are doing the same
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What I described was too much? Sounds appropriate to me. If there's extra light on the phone, I want it to get brighter. If that light goes away, I want it to get dimmer. Now if it was happening with no light changing then I would be annoyed. I keep it at 29% with Adaptive Brightness on and it's not too dark in outside light and not too bright in pitch dark.
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I'm having the same issue. I'm on my second Pixel 2 XL so I don't think it's a sensor problem. I only notice it in lower lighting but it's really annoying when it happens. Haven't seen this issue on any other phone. Im trying out Lux now and set it to only adjust when waking up. There were similar issues when Lux was set to Dynamic.
Ever since Google thought they knew better than everyone else and got rid of auto brightness for adaptive brightness, it's been trash for me. I CONSTANTLY have to raise it in dark rooms and lower it in bright rooms. AKA, I might as well turn it off because I'm manually adjusting it every time anyway.
All in all, it's terrible.
Hobox10 said:
Ever since Google thought they knew better than everyone else and got rid of auto brightness for adaptive brightness, it's been trash for me. I CONSTANTLY have to raise it in dark rooms and lower it in bright rooms. AKA, I might as well turn it off because I'm manually adjusting it every time anyway.
All in all, it's terrible.
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You know Adaptive Brightness is a mix of manual and auto brightness right? I remember auto brightness actually having the issues you're describing because there was no way to adjust it if it was set. If you have Adaptive Brightness on high enough, it should be bright enough in dark and bright situations. I believe people's issues are that it adjusts too often or the opposite, it's too dark in light rooms and too bright in dark rooms.
EeZeEpEe said:
You know Adaptive Brightness is a mix of manual and auto brightness right? I remember auto brightness actually having the issues you're describing because there was no way to adjust it if it was set. If you have Adaptive Brightness on high enough, it should be bright enough in dark and bright situations. I believe people's issues are that it adjusts too often or the opposite, it's too dark in light rooms and too bright in dark rooms.
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Yeah I know it's supposed to be a mix somewhat. It's supposed to match the setting you set to whatever the surrounding brightness is relative to your brightness setting.
That's exactly WHY it's trash in my opinion though. It's a flawed methodology. I don't want it matching my setting relative to anything. I want it low in the dark and bright in bright rooms or the sun to be legible and not more. It tries to do some meet-you-in-the-middle garbage and it just doesn't work well.
Hobox10 said:
Yeah I know it's supposed to be a mix somewhat. It's supposed to match the setting you set to whatever the surrounding brightness is relative to your brightness setting.
That's exactly WHY it's trash in my opinion though. It's a flawed methodology. I don't want it matching my setting relative to anything. I want it low in the dark and bright in bright rooms or the sun. It tries to do some meet-you-in-the-middle garbage and it just doesn't work well.
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I found the threshold for the lowest brightness in pitch dark with Adaptive Brightness on to be 29%. That should be dark enough in dark rooms and outdoors it's readable to me. What percentages have you been trying?
Mines doing the same thing. Did anyone work out whether it was hardware?
I used a sensor app to see what light was reporting, and it was stable. I can only assume it's a bug.
For those who aren't sure - if the screen is on, and not moving, without any changes to ambient or direct light, every 20 or so seconds the screen will dim to a warmer colour, and then 20 seconds later will brighten to a whiter colour.
superbestfriends said:
Mines doing the same thing. Did anyone work out whether it was hardware?
I used a sensor app to see what light was reporting, and it was stable. I can only assume it's a bug.
For those who aren't sure - if the screen is on, and not moving, without any changes to ambient or direct light, every 20 or so seconds the screen will dim to a warmer colour, and then 20 seconds later will brighten to a whiter colour.
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Yeah I had a feeling that's what people might be experiencing.
To add on to this thread, this is also occuring on my gen 1 Pixel.
Ever since I upgraded to 8.1 the adaptive display will brighten/darken while the phone is sitting still in a constantly lit room.
I also appear to have lost much of the granularity in the brightness selecting bar. The first 25% or so is as dim as it goes, and only after that does it begin to alter the brightness. Previously it would begin around 10% on the bar.
Additionally, the logic behind adaptive brightness seems to have gotten worse. I previously left my brightness setting always in the same place, and no matter where I was it was either dim enough (at night) or bright enough (during the day).
Real unhappy with this update.

Screen flickering issue

A couple weeks ago, I noticed that my screen would flicker when it was below about 50% brightness and that it would stop flickering when above 50%. I now have a problem where the screen is flickering and I cannot adjust the brightness which seems to be stuck at 0%. I can just barely see the brightness slider and when i raise it, the brightness remains the same. I don't use adaptive brightness btw and I am also on Android 9 still. Has this happened to anyone else/ does anyone have any solutions?
Kenny1609 said:
A couple weeks ago, I noticed that my screen would flicker when it was below about 50% brightness and that it would stop flickering when above 50%. I now have a problem where the screen is flickering and I cannot adjust the brightness which seems to be stuck at 0%. I can just barely see the brightness slider and when i raise it, the brightness remains the same. I don't use adaptive brightness btw and I am also on Android 9 still. Has this happened to anyone else/ does anyone have any solutions?
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Never updated to android 10 myself and not experienced that issue. I just leave my brightness settings on auto. Hope your issue is some weird software bug rather than hardware related.

Question Auto brightness bugged

Is anyone having issues with auto brightness, jumping up and down every few seconds? Im currently sat in a dimly lit room with the TV on and my screen keeps changing brightness levels every few seconds, if I pull down the notification area I can see the slider jumping about. I'm guessing the phone is reacting to the TV changing brightness levels as the picture changes but it seems way too sensitive.
Yeah known issue afaik. I'm hoping it gets resolved on an update
rosso22 said:
Is anyone having issues with auto brightness, jumping up and down every few seconds? Im currently sat in a dimly lit room with the TV on and my screen keeps changing brightness levels every few seconds, if I pull down the notification area I can see the slider jumping about. I'm guessing the phone is reacting to the TV changing brightness levels as the picture changes but it seems way too sensitive.
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One of the fixes in the November update was "Improvements for auto-brightness response in certain lighting conditions.".
I think auto brightness has always been an issue with Pixels. Its a feature I always turn off at this point
rosso22 said:
Is anyone having issues with auto brightness, jumping up and down every few seconds? Im currently sat in a dimly lit room with the TV on and my screen keeps changing brightness levels every few seconds, if I pull down the notification area I can see the slider jumping about. I'm guessing the phone is reacting to the TV changing brightness levels as the picture changes but it seems way too sensitive.
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Yeah it is up and down like a brides nighty when the light it low on mine, it isn't smooth like it was on my Pixel 5. It feels a bit like the sample rate needs a longer delay because just an increase in brightness on my TV can send my Pro brightness shooting up, the adaptive display needs to wait a few seconds before acting.
MrBelter said:
Yeah it is up and down like a brides nighty when the light it low on mine, it isn't smooth like it was on my Pixel 5. It feels a bit like the sample rate needs a longer delay because just an increase in brightness on my TV can send my Pro brightness shooting up, the adaptive display needs to wait a few seconds before acting.
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Yeah my pixel 5 and 4a 5G never had this issue (same room and lighting conditions) its crap we have to pay to be beta testers nowadays, guess we will have to wait for another "fix" in next update.
crucialcolin said:
I think auto brightness has always been an issue with Pixels. Its a feature I always turn off at this point
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Should we really have to turn things off, considering the cost of this phone? Throw in a case and charger and your over £900 in for this phone, everything should work out of the box without having to turn off features.
It's horrible. When I sit at night in a dark room watching TV, it seems to react to the TV and jump all over the place. Never had this on a phone before. Why can't Google get auto brightness right? It's ridiculous.
Personally, I've always preferred Pixel's handling of auto-brightness to that of my recent Note 10+. I thought Samsung's auto-brightness didn't adapt very well (besides the dimmest not being as dim as the Pixel when using in the dark).

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