TWRP+SuperSU, TWRP+Magisk, or Custom ROM? - Samsung Galaxy S9 Questions & Answers

Last year, I bought my first ever Android - a Galaxy S7 Snapdragon. Unfortunately, I soon learned that without root & Titanium, Android provides no way to do a proper/complete backup (i.e. SmartSync doesn't backup any app data, & Helium backs up some but misses many - WhatsApp, LINE, Viber, etc). Thus I returned the S7, took a brief hiatus, & am now eagerly awaiting the arrival of a brand new Exynos S9
I wanted to ask for any quick advice as to the "suggested" approach for rooting, so I can hit the ground running as soon as this thing arrives. As I understand it, there are 3 main approaches:
1) Install TWRP, stick with the stock Samsung ROM & flash SuperSU
2) Install TWRP, stick with the stock Samsung ROM & flash Magisk
3) Install TWRP, flash a custom ROM that's already rooted
Between 1 & 2, my understanding is that Magisk is preferable to SuperSU as it essentially accomplishes the same thing but without necessarily blocking OTA updates or some financial applications from working. True? So is there even any reason to consider #1? If not, any insight as to choosing between #2 vs (any specific custom ROMs)?
My long-term priorities are simply for the phone to run as well as possible, with as little maintenance as possible (i.e. as far as ease of getting security updates goes). I'm not really into lots of customization, experimenting, etc - I'd prefer to just get something up & running, stable, & stick with it. I will be using T-Mobile though, so I guess in either case I'll need to install this to get WiFi calling & VoLTE working. Also, I want to make sure that whichever root solution I choose, it can coexist with Secure Startup (the S7 Snapdragon's root couldn't, which was a dealbreaker for me).
Any insight would be greatly appreciated. The phone arrives Tuesday, I can't wait to get started!

As soon as you flash twrp your not going to get OTA updates nevermind root.
sent from my Pixel 2 XL or Note FE

Unfortunately i made a silly mistake, i wiped the EFS partition of my G960FD once rooting the device while not having any backup for it
i tried flashing official rom, combined roms, cutoms roms; but always, i have the same problem "unknown IMEI and Baseband"
even, i tried to use ODIN Nand Erase All and installing new fresh official rom and also, have the same problem
is there any recommendations, please?

hanymedic said:
Unfortunately i made a silly mistake, i wiped the EFS partition of my G960FD once rooting the device while not having any backup for it
i tried flashing official rom, combined roms, cutoms roms; but always, i have the same problem "unknown IMEI and Baseband"
even, i tried to use ODIN Nand Erase All and installing new fresh official rom and also, have the same problem
is there any recommendations, please?
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Samsung repair centre

*Detection* said:
Samsung repair centre
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They asked me to pay 400$ for replacing the mother board
that's why i asked for having any solution

hanymedic said:
They asked me to pay 400$ for replacing the mother board
that's why i asked for having any solution
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when you say combined roms do you mean the factory binary firmwares? because if flashing the combination firmware/factory binary followed by the usual rigmarole factory reset, nd reflash official fw doesnt work you could try rebuilding the partition using adb shell (root access needed for this though)
https://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/general/fix-drk-dm-verity-factory-csc-serial-t3422965
this link isnt for the s9 smg960f but it did work for me when trying to solve the same issue on the sm-g950f,
anyway hope this helps in some way

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Is rooting stable/easy/updatable Samsung Note 2

I bought the new Samsung Note 2 (N7105). I have a few issues though, for example the home dock (where internet, phone, app drawer and etc are) can't be changed in Australia (rang up Samsung to confirm) only way to fix this is to root and change internal settings. I decided to download and install Nova Launcher which fixed this issue. The next issue is voice searching, also disabled in Australia. As well as Telstra bloatware and other things I'd rather have off the phone which I can't uninstall.
I still want to be able to update my phone through Samsung Kies and have no ill effects on the phone (custom roms are neat, but I'd like to stay stock for the moment whilst I am still learning the phone).
Any suggestions would be appreciated, thank you
Bumping this thread up after 15 hours, would anyone know if it is possible once rooted to os sideload with ubuntu?
You don't have to flash custom ROM, I didn't either - simply because I don't need and don't think the quality is as good as original Samsung. But you could always flash unrooted stock ROM, or stock ROM and root. Just use ROM for other region (i.e. UK) that doesn't have such limitations. You won't be able to use OTA, but flashing is realy super-easy once you do it and there is fantastic dr. ketan guide (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1896696) so there's no way to mess something up.
dalanik said:
You don't have to flash custom ROM, I didn't either - simply because I don't need and don't think the quality is as good as original Samsung. But you could always flash unrooted stock ROM, or stock ROM and root. Just use ROM for other region (i.e. UK) that doesn't have such limitations. You won't be able to use OTA, but flashing is realy super-easy once you do it and there is fantastic dr. ketan guide (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1896696) so there's no way to mess something up.
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Is it the same for the n7105, looks like a nice guide should i use the us version since it shouldnt have any restrictions? Thank you.

Which of these two possibilities is better for installing updates on a rooted phone?

Hello. I'm coming from a old windows mobile phone and just got my first Android device "Samsung Galaxy S4 mini GT-i9195" and obviously i'm loving it.
Still being a newbie to Android i already did a bit of advanced stuff (at least for a novice android user) like installing CWM Recovery and rooting the phone in order to be able to install apps on and external SD card.
But a new question arose: What about new Android updates, can i still install them without loosing root or even worse, damaging the phone?
After searching a bit on google i came up with two possible and contraditory possibilities which are:
-Yes, and afterwards i would only need to restart the phone in CWM mode and reapply the zip root file i used previously;
-No, it will likely mess the phone and i should wait 1 or 2 weeks for a updated rooted rom and "install" that instead.
So, i'm a bit confused here, what would be more advisable?
I suggest to make a nandroid backup, then try a custom rom from the dev forum.
There are 4.4.4 kikat roms for our beloved S4 mini, and i dont think samsung will go further.
Envoyé de mon GT-I9190
rick6 said:
-Yes, and afterwards i would only need to restart the phone in CWM mode and reapply the zip root file i used previously;
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...... if, as has been said, you ever get an update. An update certainly will not damage the phone.
You certainly won't have to wait for anything. I agree with zlaz, flash a new ROM such as Carbon - you get regular updates and great support here on XDA (whichever ROM you try).
Custom ROMs like CarbonRom (see the development section) is the way to go for this phone I would say. But if you wanna stay on stock and if we would get an update, Samsung probably wont let you install it via the usual OTA or Kies method, because your device is flagged as "Modified" after flashing a custom recovery (you can see this in the about this device section in the settings). You would still be able to flash the update manually with Odin, but you will then probably have to reroot it.
LanderN said:
Custom ROMs like CarbonRom (see the development section) is the way to go for this phone I would say. But if you wanna stay on stock and if we would get an update, Samsung probably wont let you install it via the usual OTA or Kies method, because your device is flagged as "Modified" after flashing a custom recovery (you can see this in the about this device section in the settings). You would still be able to flash the update manually with Odin, but you will then probably have to reroot it.
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That's 100% true, I don't remember now exactly when your phone say, that it is modified and you can't update - moment you search for update in it or moment you try to download update that it has find.
Samsung oryginal software is not that greate anyways
Thank you all for the replies.
I think i got what i wanted with your awnsers, i just need to dig a bit more about the avaiable roms what what i can get from them. At the moment i'll keep my s4 mini as it is for a while longer i guess.
As for warranty i get something while booting up saying "Set warranty Bit: Kernel", but that seems to be what you normaly get when root a stock rom.

frequent phone call interruptions, Samsung GT-I9192, 4.4.2 (S4 min dual sim)

Hi,
I am sadly no mobile expert and need your kind support. Since over half a year I have 2 problems
very frequent phone call interruptions
much lower battery life time
My phone/sim provider in Germany are Vodafone and Congstar. But I do not think its related to them.
All the trouble started after a certain upgrade to newer versions of Android OS, but can't remember when this exactly started. Then the battery life went down significantly and I get those annoying interruptions in phone calls up to 3-4 times in a ~15 minute call. Its so bad .. What could you recommend to me ?
Is there a better image downloadable, maybe fallback to older version ?
Or is it possible to fallback to the version in ROM ? I fear side effects and unfixed system holes by this.
Thanks for any help !
BR
Moin,
I highly recommend you to switch to CyanogenMod. I took the switch to CM right after i bought my GT-I9195 and all I can say I've never expirenced such problems either on Vodafone nor O2. ATM I'm still at CM11 as this is rock stable and battery life is quite good, ~2-3 days depending on usage
Just follow this steps and you've got nothing to worry about.
1. install custom recovery
2. take a full backup of your current system + SD Card just for the case...
3. install CM11 for your phone + pico OpenGAPPS
4. flash the latest Modem EUR region for your phone right after
5. use it for a few days without any Custom kernel and a minimum of installed apps
6. if your not satisfied restore the backup from step 2.
Sounds simple...it is indeed.
Regards / Grüße
DonQ
DonQuichotte said:
Moin,
I highly recommend you to switch to CyanogenMod. I took the switch to CM right after i bought my GT-I9195 and all I can say I've never expirenced such problems either on Vodafone nor O2. ATM I'm still at CM11 as this is rock stable and battery life is quite good, ~2-3 days depending on usage
Just follow this steps and you've got nothing to worry about.
1. install custom recovery
2. take a full backup of your current system + SD Card just for the case...
3. install CM11 for your phone + pico OpenGAPPS
4. flash the latest Modem EUR region for your phone right after
5. use it for a few days without any Custom kernel and a minimum of installed apps
6. if your not satisfied restore the backup from step 2.
Sounds simple...it is indeed.
Regards / Grüße
DonQ
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1st of all you talk about your GT-I9195 model which is a normal S4 mini, but I have the DUAL SIM version.
Thanks but I want to stay with the normal SW train, I installed CM on a S3 1y ago and I didn't like the look and feel. So CM is not an option for me.
Besides my preferences, if I look at this article its nice to see, that there is progress for the DUAL SIM version but there are still known issues like stuttering problems and of you look down further the auther doesn't intend to create a CM official version out of it, so it looks more like a "hack" than something which is further supported by CM. Looks like an ALPHA SW and a one way road to me. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2790789
So .. other ideas ?!
Hello,
One point before flashing: your knox is 0x0 ? 1st flash result 0x1 and warranty lost.
Choice is to flash and try to solve this problem by yourself but lost the warranty or see with samsung support what they can do, but after 1st flash there is no coming back.
Kralisec said:
Hello,
One point before flashing: your knox is 0x0 ? 1st flash result 0x1 and warranty lost.
Choice is to flash and try to solve this problem by yourself but lost the warranty or see with samsung support what they can do, but after 1st flash there is no coming back.
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I have no clue about knox. I am using the smartphone with a private and a company SIM.
But there are is company deployed SW on the smartphone. Also e-mail is pure private.
I only use DUAL SIM for the purpose of being able to make company phone calls with the company SIM.
Is there no way to get rid of 4.4.2 ? I remember the phone has been sold with 4.2.x.
Is there no 4.2 stored somewhere on the phone which can be reactivated ? At least then I could check, wheter it runs more stable and whether battery life is then better. But in fact I have no Kies backup, as I hate this bloated software.
Knox information : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Knox
more important: at the end, e-fuse part: "This information may be used by Samsung to deny warranty service"
Kralisec said:
Knox information : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Knox
more important: at the end, e-fuse part: "This information may be used by Samsung to deny warranty service"
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Is somebody able to explain to me in easy words, what this all now means to me ?
Does this mean, I can't do a downgrade without loosing any kind of warranty ?
Should this be the case, I assume I am stuck n the 4.4.2 path and can only hope for vendor support (Samsung).
So shall I open a case with Samsung and hope that they fix the issue should it be a SW related issue ?
In short: if you flash using odin or heimdall for the 1st time you will loose your warranty.
Samsung update is merged inside rom, it's not something you can just uninstall.
I don't know if usual samsung tool let you downgrade to a previous version
(this time without knox issue since it's pure samsung way to update)

[HELP] Note 4 N910P looking for 6.0 firmware incl recommendations to download

Good day all. I have rooted my Sprint Note 4 N910P (just to remove the bloatware) and did not get the 6.0 update. The error message from my phone's system update states to "...use Samsung Smart Switch to update using my computer".
However, I find that Kies is the most preferred method, if not all (aside from Odin), used to update to 6.0 via computer.
Could I get some feedback on which method is best and where would I get the 6.0 firmware as I have found a few but don't know how reliable these are in trying to avoid any problems.
Much thanks in advance.:good:
Smart Switch has replaced KIES as far as Samsung is concerned. It is a Samsung preferred way to update a phone, but I don't know if it will like a modified device. I think it has an emergency recovery mode that will do it.
Reivaj1803 said:
Good day all. I have rooted my Sprint Note 4 N910P (just to remove the bloatware) and did not get the 6.0 update. The error message from my phone's system update states to "...use Samsung Smart Switch to update using my computer".
However, I find that Kies is the most preferred method, if not all (aside from Odin), used to update to 6.0 via computer.
Could I get some feedback on which method is best and where would I get the 6.0 firmware as I have found a few but don't know how reliable these are in trying to avoid any problems.
Much thanks in advance.:good:
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I'm gonna keep this brief as I'm assuming since you have a rooted device that you somewhat know the basics of what your doing.
I personally would start fresh.
First completely back up your phone.
Second Then download Odin and the current stock Rom from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-sprint/general/stock-tar-odin-flashable-t3250864 (If you want Stock Rom)
Or you can use this to download Rom from Samsung http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-s/general/tool-samfirm-samsung-firmware-t2988647
Third Flash Rom and root and debloat by which ever way you did before. (Assuming Titanium Backup)
I am by no way an expert and there might be a better way but I like having clean installs. Just make sure to research anything you don't know or are unfamiliar with.
Here's super su thread I use for Root: http://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/supersu/2014-09-02-supersu-v2-05-t2868133
Always give thanks to Devs and threads.
As I stated this are just brief outline of steps I would take. Hope it helps. Good day sir!
Root, Twrp, flash ApocalypseX_MM 8.1.0 and Kernel Flashpoint 4.3 beta.
So far no problem and running smooth with best battery life

Question Fold 3 Issues after Android 12 update

Hi everyone,
My Fold 3 started showing wierd sympotoms after Abdroid 12 update however I thought they might get fixed with the next upgrade. Last night I received Android 13 upgrade but to my surprise the issues with my phone stayed same.
My phone is official, no rooting or bootloader unlocking. Knox tripping is 0x0. The same result is shown by the Diagonostics in Members app.
My employer needs me to install work profile that this phone is not allowing and throwing an error saying I have a custom OS. I cannot boot into the bootloader from the recovery menu and getting a smart select error. Moreover I cannot login to Samsung Pay (stuck at fingerprint authrized) and Samsung Pass (Currently not available error: 162)
I have added all the possible screen shots for ready reference.
Can you please advise as what can I do to fix this annoyance! Many thanks in advance
try reflash latest official rom with full data erase
AndrOmega said:
try reflash latest official rom with full data erase
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Thx for ur reply. I tried doing this already. Situation remains same.
It isn't Maas360 that you are trying to install by chance?
imapfsr said:
It isn't Maas360 that you are trying to install by chance?
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I am not aware of Maas360!
Can anyone with knowledge help as I need to setup my office profile urgently. My second phone is acting up...
If your phone is not modified in any way, then I would go straight to Samsung. Someone here might be able to help, but in cases like this, Sammy might be your best bet.
Its not modified however Samsung wants to change the mother board and charge big as its out if warranty.
Thats the reason I turned to the community as I have got many issues fixed from the wonderful people that Sammy wanted to charge otherwise.
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