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So my phone died when I was out to dinner. Get home, throw it on my old LG charger rated at 0.7A
30 minutes later I turn the phone one, 45% battery. Hour later, green LED is on, phone is full.
Is this normal?
Mindspin_311 said:
So my phone died when I was out to dinner. Get home, throw it on my old LG charger rated at 0.7A
30 minutes later I turn the phone one, 45% battery. Hour later, green LED is on, phone is full.
Is this normal?
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let it die, charge it while its off till 100 then wipe batt stats and then turn it o
A drop of Chuck Norris's semen was placed on Android OS. We now have CyanogenMod.
What will that accomplish? I have never really understood what wiping the battery stats will do. Does it just make your charge reading more accurate?
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What will that accomplish? I have never really understood what wiping the battery stats will do. Does it just make your charge reading more accurate?
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Yeah that's really all it can do.
Are you asking because you think it too too long? Or too quick? That seems average to me.
sitlet said:
Are you asking because you think it too too long? Or too quick? That seems average to me.
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Too quick, I figured a full charge took at least 3-4 hours
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Too quick, I figured a full charge took at least 3-4 hours
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Maybe for a NiMH battery back in the day.
My extended battery was at 5% when I put it on the charger. About 2 hrs later, the green light went on. According to the battery monitor widget, it was not fully charged - voltage was 3.9xxV, not 4.2xx, and the current was still at 800-900 mA. I left it on the charger for another 90 min. Current wave form began to look like this - /\/\/\/\. I knew it was as charged as it was going to be at this point. Voltage was also at 4.20x V.
For a regular battery, 90min sounds about right, depending on what level of charge you started with.
my 3500 charges in an hour.
with my 1.5a charger
Is everyone really getting the 50% charge in 30 mins? It feels like I am getting about 1% per 1 min of charge time on average. Not sure if that is normal or I have a defect somewhere? Also, is fast charging safe to use for every charge session or is it meant to be used once in a while for emergencies? Thank you.
yes my phone will go from zero to 100% in an hour no problem when using charger that came with phone
oneandroidnut said:
yes my phone will go from zero to 100% in an hour no problem when using charger that came with phone
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Really? Did it charge like that from the very beginning or did it take a few charges to get to that speed? I think it takes me like 1.5-2 hrs from real low to full charge with fast charge enabled.
burntrat said:
Really? Did it charge like that from the very beginning or did it take a few charges to get to that speed? I think it takes me like 1.5-2 hrs from real low to full charge with fast charge enabled.
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yup and as long as i can remember it has always done it. It goes stupid fast. went from 30% to full in under 40 mins thing flies
oneandroidnut said:
yup and as long as i can remember it has always done it. It goes stupid fast. went from 30% to full in under 40 mins thing flies
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Were all your fast charges with the phone on or off?
burntrat said:
Were all your fast charges with the phone on or off?
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phone on
Hmmm... I am on day 14 with the phone. Wondering if I should return it to vz....
burntrat said:
Is everyone really getting the 50% charge in 30 mins? It feels like I am getting about 1% per 1 min of charge time on average. Not sure if that is normal or I have a defect somewhere? Also, is fast charging safe to use for every charge session or is it meant to be used once in a while for emergencies? Thank you.
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I used to get those insanely fast charge times; however, recently my phone has been charging slower (with fast charging on). Not only that, but, for some reason, the original wall adapter stopped working twice now. The first time it freaked me out because I thought my phone was messed up, but it turned out that everything was working except the adapter. Then later, I found out that if I reboot my phone with the adapter plugged into the wall, the charger will magically start working again! This worked for one or two charges. Today, I found that my phone was, again, charging extremely slow. Not only that, but my phone stopped charging after around 50% and the adapter is broken once more. I've tried the reboot thing three times and it didn't work again T: So now I'm kind of worried my phone might be defective?
Has this happened to anyone else with charging issues?
JippleStar said:
I used to get those insanely fast charge times; however, recently my phone has been charging slower (with fast charging on). Not only that, but, for some reason, the original wall adapter stopped working twice now. The first time it freaked me out because I thought my phone was messed up, but it turned out that everything was working except the adapter. Then later, I found out that if I reboot my phone with the adapter plugged into the wall, the charger will magically start working again! This worked for one or two charges. Today, I found that my phone was, again, charging extremely slow. Not only that, but my phone stopped charging after around 50% and the adapter is broken once more. I've tried the reboot thing three times and it didn't work again T: So now I'm kind of worried my phone might be defective?
Has this happened to anyone else with charging issues?
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I haven't ran into anything like that yet. Who is your carrier? Maybe you can take in your charger and battery to get it replaced? Can you try charging with a different quick charging phone or something to narrow down if it's the phone or charger's fault?
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I haven't ran into anything like that yet. Who is your carrier? Maybe you can take in your charger and battery to get it replaced? Can you try charging with a different quick charging phone or something to narrow down if it's the phone or charger's fault?
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Although I am fairly certain that my issue was the wall adapter portion of the charger, I just found it strange that the fast charging function failed to work properly around the same time when my wall adapter started to fail. Hopefully I am right and nothing else was wrong, but I thought that I would say something in-case I was wrong
As for getting it replaced... I bought my Verizon Note 4 at BestBuy off-contract and when I went there, they claimed to not have any in stock. They never really bothered to ask if I wanted to replace it even though I brought all my receipts and junk so I just took that as I wouldn't be getting a replacement haha :crying:
If anything I'll probably end up just buying another fast charger from samsung later, but for now slow charging is fine I guess. The fast charging did make both my device and charger hot, so maybe that was the problem?
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I do not have any other quick charging devices (to my knowledge), but the wall adapter - combined with various other cables - continued to fail with my other phones as well.
I also say about a hour for a full change
mrgigabyte2002 said:
I also say about a hour for a full change
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Weird, I need like 1.5 hrs to get from 15% to full on fast charge and about 1.75 hrs for 15% to full on slow charge.
i timed my 1st charge. 57 min from 0 to 100. phone turned on and screen off.
Yep, to me that's the best feature. No more battery switching.
I even bought the Verizon vehicle charger with fast charge, and it works just as quick
big70tom said:
Yep, to me that's the best feature. No more battery switching.
I even bought the Verizon vehicle charger with fast charge, and it works just as quick
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Do you know if it's safe to use fast charge for every charge up? If it shortens battery life over time, I'd like to know this now and only use fast charge sparingly.
Yes. It shortens battery life. By using the only charger they give you, you essentially cut your battery life in half. It's a conspiracy by Samsung and the makers of the materials used the batteries
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Yes. It shortens battery life. By using the only charger they give you, you essentially cut your battery life in half. It's a conspiracy by Samsung and the makers of the materials used the batteries
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Whoa..it cuts it down that much? Where did you read about this?
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Whoa..it cuts it down that much? Where did you read about this?
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Pretty sure that was sarcasm. I'm less sure about your comment, though. ;P
I read it in American Android, first December issue. They did a study. Only way to avoid the battery dissipation was if you only used the fast charger at night, and Sundays after noon, but before 1pm PST. fascinating article. It's amazing what a group of students at Yale who love Android can actually accomplish.
I think I can work around that charging schedule. I am also going to subscribe to that magazine now.
Anyone else notice that with the supplied charger charging ins't what it should be. My iPhone 5 charged almost twice as fast as this phone. I find it kind of annoying. I did order one of these chargers hoping that solves the issue.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HPTU00E/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
The supplied charger is charging rapidly no doubt.
I guess not less than 1% per minute - particularly when below 70%..
jauhien said:
The supplied charger is charging rapidly no doubt.
I guess not less than 1% per minute - particularly when below 70%..
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No its not. Especially when your using the phone and its on 5% plugged in. Takes forever to reach 6%.
I'm having literally no issues with charging from dead to 25% in about 15 minutes. 2 hours to 100% im very happy with the speed of charging and this is using my m8 charger as the m9 one is still sealed in box.
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MattMJB0188 said:
No its not. Especially when your using the phone and its on 5% plugged in. Takes forever to reach 6%.
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I went with this one and it working like a champ, 30% to 100% in 50 min
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00QTJZ3D0/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I've been using the GS4 charger, with a high output cable. The Samsung charger is 1.5A where the HTC m8/m9 charger is 1.0A
the supplied charger is definitely giving 1.5 amps to mine. charges up pretty quick. with a quickcharge 2.0 charger it's crazy fast to charge.
One thing to note is it will take a faster charge the lower the battery level is, which means more heat. if you're also gaming with it, you could be bumping against the battery charging cutoff temperature. I only ever saw this happen on my Tegra HOX+. IIRC HTC has the notification LED blink in alternating green and orange/red when this happens. I'm guessing you would have mentioned temperature in the OP if this was the case, but I figured I'd bring it up.
gonzo237 said:
The Samsung charger is 1.5A where the HTC m8/m9 charger is 1.0A
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Just spread your arm, pick whether HTC M8 or M9 charger, and read upon it.. 8)
Both M8 and M9 chargers are - 1.5 Ampere.. furthermore both handhelds are charging fast - otherwise if the cable is a problem..
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Just spread your arm, pick whether HTC M8 or M9 charger, and read upon it.. 8)
Both M8 and M9 chargers are - 1.5 Ampere..
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Sorry, meant it was 1.5a for HTC and 2.0a for the Samsung one. Didn't have them on hand to check.
iPhone 5 battery is 1,440 mAh... M9 battery is 2,840 mAh. 50% charge of Iphone battery doesn't equal 50% charge of M9 battery, in terms of charge time.
I believe the rate of charging to decrease while you use it to prevent the phone from overheating. (My M8 does this as well)
My stock charger is fast, and my quick charge 2.0 is crazy fast.
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No its not. Especially when your using the phone and its on 5% plugged in. Takes forever to reach 6%.
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If you are using your phone and charging at the same time, it will take longer to charge....
as someone who had a nexus 6 with turbo charging. this is bad. charging is so slow.
joetang97 said:
If you are using your phone and charging at the same time, it will take longer to charge....
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I got a qualcomm 2.0 charger and now its super fast.
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I got a qualcomm 2.0 charger and now its super fast.
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Yeah, this. I got an HTC Rapid Charger 2.0 for it just to be sure since I knew with certainty it's Quick Charge 2.0. In retrospect perhaps not the best move considering I'm essentially incentivising HTC for not including one in the box from the get go, but whatever.
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No its not. Especially when your using the phone and its on 5% plugged in. Takes forever to reach 6%.
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Yup i got the same issue gonna take me 6-11hrs to charge and its very slow charging
I had a similar problem to OP. The second night I had my phone I plugged it in at 11 pm with about 5% battery left and went to bed. At 5:15 the next morning (6 hours later) it was only at 85%. I can't tell if there's still a problem or I just think there is because I'm paranoid about it now. I haven't run my battery down that low since, and looking at the charge current with Ampere seems somewhat inconclusive. I may have to run it down and then keep an eye on it while charging to see what's going on.
Something IS wrong with SOME M9 phones (I think)
I have one of the "bad" ones. Mine takes hours and hours to charge, whether on the cable and plug that came in the box, or on any others that I have around - some I know are 2 Amps. I think there is something seriously wrong with some of these phones, based on what I am reading in this thread, and on my own example. I have had my M9 for just a few days.
I'd like to post a follow up to this thread after having the phone for a couple of weeks now.
I've had several occurrences where my phone didn't fully charge overnight. The worst was a few days ago, I plugged it in at 5% and the next morning (6-8 hours) it was at 1%, it actually lost charge. I noticed before unplugging it so I looked at the history in Battery Widget Reborn and it showed the battery level just slowly dropped from 5% to 1% without any jumps or dips. The battery icon at the top of the screen showed it was charging but it died at that point so I didn't get a chance to open Ampere.
I think it's the charger (and/or the cable) that came with the phone. I've tried several other chargers that have all worked reliably:
- The QuickCharge 2.0 charger that came with my wife's S6 charges my phone really fast.
- I have a Kmashi external battery that also seems to charge it relatively quickly.
- Two older chargers that are several years old (both rated 5 volts at 0.7 amps) charge it from around 30% to full in 3-5 hours.
At first I thought it might have been a wakelock problem, but the battery has been dropping so slowly when the phone is just sitting in my pocket that I'm confident now that it's not wakelocks. I don't know if HTC is likely to send a replacement, but I'm going to stop into the Verizon store that I got the phone from to see if they'll replace it.
Gilligan
My phone is also odd when charging.
Half of the time it takes 6 hours or more to charge. If I look at GSAM battery monitor it shows a charge current of around 350mA. If I then unplug the charger and reconnect after 15 seconds I get over 1300mA charging current, most of the time. (It takes GSAM a while to show an accurate reading). Occasionally it will take a few tries to get it right. Once I get a good reading over 1300mA the phone will charge in 1.5 hours like it should.
Something very buggy about this phone's charging circuit. I get the same behaviour with all chargers and cables, even my battery bank.
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Anyone else notice that with the supplied charger charging ins't what it should be. My iPhone 5 charged almost twice as fast as this phone. I find it kind of annoying. I did order one of these chargers hoping that solves the issue.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HPTU00E/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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I use a 2A tablet charger from my hp touchpad. Charges from dead to 100% in 45 minutes.
Hi guys,
For those having the A70, does the "Super Fast Charging" feature work for you ?
With the original provided charger (with the "Super Fast Charging" logo on it), I need 3 hours to go from 9% to 100%.
So that is 1% every 2 minutes...
I do not consider this a "Super fast". I think it is "Decent" but would not go above that...
For me, this a severe disappointment... Unless of course I am doing something wrong
Anyone else can share his results for Super fast charging here ?
Regards.
Your phone must have an error. Mine lasts about 1:20 to charge from about 15% to 100%.
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Your phone must have an error. Mine lasts about 1:20 to charge from about 15% to 100%.
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Hi,
Thanks a lot for your answer.
The phone... or the charger maybe ?
Is there something to enable to have that "Super Fast Charging" ?
Or something to not disable ?
If I can solve battery drain (not really lasting as I expect) and this, I will think again about keeping the phone.
So far, it's more a non keeper
Regards.
NexusPenguin said:
Hi,
Thanks a lot for your answer.
The phone... or the charger maybe ?
Is there something to enable to have that "Super Fast Charging" ?
Or something to not disable ?
If I can solve battery drain (not really lasting as I expect) and this, I will think again about keeping the phone.
So far, it's more a non keeper
Regards.
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Hello . Do you charge it with the screen closed? Only then fast charging works! IF yes then something is wrong with either the cable or the charger .You could also try a factory reset !
Pe3ball said:
Hello . Do you charge it with the screen closed? Only then fast charging works! IF yes then something is wrong with either the cable or the charger .You could also try a factory reset !
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Hi,
Thanks for the info => Super Fast Charging only with display off ?
So if I leave "Always On" it will not work ?
Maybe that is why...
Anyways, I did as you suggested : I have done a full factory reset, and I have installed the bare minimum of Apps.
We will see about battery drain an battery charging.
I'll keep you posted.
Best regards.
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Go to Device Care then Battery then the three dots on top right then Settings then make sure "Fast cable charging" is enabled
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Go to Device Care then Battery then the three dots on top right then Settings then make sure "Fast cable charging" is enabled
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Hi Sufyan3D,
Thanks a lot for that info...
I've made sure that the fast charge is enabled.
So far, the device is still at 100% so I can't say if the problem is "solved", but I'll make sure to report if now it charges as it should
And also about battery drain...
Regards.
That's correct! OK check it now and tell us! No battery drain, this thing is a beast! Keep us posted!
Pe3ball said:
That's correct! OK check it now and tell us! No battery drain, this thing is a beast! Keep us posted!
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Hi,
So far, I cannot tell about the Fast charge.
But the phone is almost idle (really gently used) with "Always on" enabled.
It's been idle since about 3hours and battery is at 98%.
I consider this a rather good result.
Hope it'll stay as it is once I install all my apps...
If not, I'll try to track the culprit for the high battery drain.
Regards.
I have same problem, after reading your post, I drained my battery to 9% and charge, it so slow while charging.
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It's pretty fast just over a hour and near full charge from 20% , pretty solid so far took it of charge at 7am and at 7:30pm still on 54% and been on it all day taking photos /slow mo vids web browsing the norm and still going strong!! [emoji2]
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Hi guys,
Well I think it is confirmed that my phone has a problem.
The battery drain is more than acceptable.
I drove my kid to school yesterday. It is a 80 minute trip to go there and come back.
While I drove her, I used the A70 as a GPS whilst it was connected to car audio with Bluetooth.
Battery drain in 80 minutes was a little less than 10% which is quite good I think...
Then I played a bit with the phone and went to bed.
This morning it still had 84% battery.
So that is about 2% battery drain overnight.
Not stellar but acceptable.
So I decided to hook it up.
The battery panel reports "Fast charging plugged in".
But after 40 minutes, I am still at 98% charge.
That means 40 minutes to get 10% battery.
I am aware that the last 10% are the longest, but still... 40 minutes for 10% ?
I will test with another charger to see if it is the phone or the charger...
Regards.
NexusPenguin said:
Hi guys,
Well I think it is confirmed that my phone has a problem.
The battery drain is more than acceptable.
I drove my kid to school yesterday. It is a 80 minute trip to go there and come back.
While I drove her, I used the A70 as a GPS whilst it was connected to car audio with Bluetooth.
Battery drain in 80 minutes was a little less than 10% which is quite good I think...
Then I played a bit with the phone and went to bed.
This morning it still had 84% battery.
So that is about 2% battery drain overnight.
Not stellar but acceptable.
So I decided to hook it up.
The battery panel reports "Fast charging plugged in".
But after 40 minutes, I am still at 98% charge.
That means 40 minutes to get 10% battery.
I am aware that the last 10% are the longest, but still... 40 minutes for 10% ?
I will test with another charger to see if it is the phone or the charger...
Regards.
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Download a free app called "Ampere" from the Play Store, to measure your charging current. Plug the phone into the charger then open the App to get the measurements. Post your result here and compare with other A70 owners.
App shows that my charging current is around 1100mah (with the 25w charger)
I landed here as I was surprised how slow my A70 was to charge. It takes around 3 hours to get from 15% to full, using the included Samsung 3A charger & original cable. Ampere shows the current trickling in at around 850mA. Super Fast Charging is enabled. My previous phone was a Xiaomi Mi 8 Lite which charged at around 2A according to Ampere.
PS I found this link which suggests most of the fast charging happens early in the cycle https://www.sammobile.com/2019/05/02/how-fast-is-samsung-25w-super-fast-charging
The Charger is rated at max 2.77 amps and 9 volts for fast charging. It will vary through the charging cycle though. Towards the end, above 80%, the charging will slow. How long does it take from 15% to 80% and what is the measurement in the middle of that?
GavCity said:
The Charger is rated at max 2.77 amps and 9 volts for fast charging. It will vary through the charging cycle though. Towards the end, above 80%, the charging will slow. How long does it take from 15% to 80% and what is the measurement in the middle of that?
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Will need to measure that the next time I charge it as it's now at 100%! How long does yours take from 15 to 80%?
dwl99 said:
Will need to measure that the next time I charge it as it's now at 100%! How long does yours take from 15 to 80%?
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I've never tested it. I have fast charge turned off. I charge my phone over night. The battery lasts me all day every day.
Samsung A70 Failed!!
I think A70 is failed in all fields.
No porper GCam. And now batteries.
My device getting charged in around 4 hours with original cable and charger.
Now I think I invest 27k in wrong item. OnePlus 7 or realme 3 pro was far better than A70.
It's just name Samsung, nothing else. Blank box with tag of Samsung. Really disappointing with this.
Sorry to fans of Samsung devices. But I don't like this. After 2011 (Samsung Galaxy Y s5360), I think Samsung is better nowadays but I was wrong. I will never buy Samsung phone again.
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I think A70 is failed in all fields.
No porper GCam. And now batteries.
My device getting charged in around 4 hours with original cable and charger.
Now I think I invest 27k in wrong item. OnePlus 7 or realme 3 pro was far better than A70.
It's just name Samsung, nothing else. Blank box with tag of Samsung. Really disappointing with this.
Sorry to fans of Samsung devices. But I don't like this. After 2011 (Samsung Galaxy Y s5360), I think Samsung is better nowadays but I was wrong. I will never buy Samsung phone again.
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I am not facing such issues in my device. Regarding development, for a device like a70, development is always slow. We have the source codes available. The only thing missing is developers onboarding to support the device. If at least 1 dev puts the kernel and device source codes and tree in github, I bet development will start soon after.
GavCity said:
The Charger is rated at max 2.77 amps and 9 volts for fast charging. It will vary through the charging cycle though. Towards the end, above 80%, the charging will slow. How long does it take from 15% to 80% and what is the measurement in the middle of that?
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I took some readings with Ampere during a charge:
0 mins 8% battery 4050mA
30 mins 38% battery 1060mA
60 mins 52% battery 1050mA
90 mins 66% battery 1020mA
120 mins 81% battery 1080mA
150 mins 91% battery 1000mA
180 mins 100% battery
So 3h from nearly empty to full which is not exactly fast. Is this in line with what others get?
Hi all,
occasionally I see my 7 months old Pixel 3a XL can't hold battery power from 11% down. Switches off very fast, abnormally fast. Then if I power it and start it then keeps on restarting until battery level is higher than 5-6%
I use the original charger only. Sometimes it appears, some it does not and I can see it discharges as expected.
I try to keep my battery within 40-100% full and discharge it very rarely to 0%.
Anyone facing those abnormalities? Can't think of connected events - updates, etc ....
Cheers
p.s. after last night happening again, charged the phone from 0% to 86% (phone was off during charge), turned on on 86% and left over night on the shelf. Usually drains 2-3%, this morning it dropped from 86% to 62%. All connections off, nothing unusual shown in the battery usage stats...
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Hi all,
occasionally I see my 7 months old Pixel 3a XL can't hold battery power from 11% down. Switches off very fast, abnormally fast. Then if I power it and start it then keeps on restarting until battery level is higher than 5-6%
I use the original charger only. Sometimes it appears, some it does not and I can see it discharges as expected.
I try to keep my battery within 40-100% full and discharge it very rarely to 0%.
Anyone facing those abnormalities? Can't think of connected events - updates, etc ....
Cheers
p.s. after last night happening again, charged the phone from 0% to 86% (phone was off during charge), turned on on 86% and left over night on the shelf. Usually drains 2-3%, this morning it dropped from 86% to 62%. All connections off, nothing unusual shown in the battery usage stats...
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That's pretty weird
My 3a xl (about the same age as yours) doesn't use more than 10% max when left overnight. Are you using AOD or anything?
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@Skittles9823 nothing beside stock Android and apps that I've used forever. Strange is that it's occasional - also occassional is initial drain from 100% to 92%.
Maybe its time to flash it - nothing suspicious is shown in batt stats
I use the fast charger that came with it. Not sure how it affects battery life long term. I try to keep it 100% to 40% usually and not charge it if not necessary..
TodNex said:
@Skittles9823
I use the fast charger that came with it. Not sure how it affects battery life long term. I try to keep it 100% to 40% usually and not charge it if not necessary..
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I think popular wisdom is that both fast charging and in particular charging to 100% are not kind to the battery's longivety. Divided opinion about the effect of discharging to low percentages. Personally I charge to between 70 and 80% unless I know I'm going to need more capacity. 3a XL has a bigish battery, which helps. I recharge most nights but only to 70-80%. End of day I usually end up between high 40's and low 30's charge.
I manually set all apps I don't actually need to run in background to 'restricted' background use.
I charge mine up to a 100% often, when using it heavy.. I never heard of charging a battery to 100% being bad for it, unless you believe everything that is told or should I say sold to you.. Sounds like a faulty battery. If still under the 1 yr usual warranty I would have it replaced. I have drained mine down to less than 20% and still never experience any issue that OP state.
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I never heard of charging a battery to 100% being bad for it
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Some research references in here
https://accubattery.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/210224725-Charging-research-and-methodology
https://accubattery.zendesk.com/hc/...-Cycle-Life-Modeling-of-Lithium-Ion-Batteries
Also Apple have actually introduced a feature to stop/postpone 100% charging when the phone thinks it's not required. Would be good if we had similar/more control for Android.
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT210512
WibblyW said:
Some research references in here
https://accubattery.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/210224725-Charging-research-and-methodology
https://accubattery.zendesk.com/hc/...-Cycle-Life-Modeling-of-Lithium-Ion-Batteries
Also Apple have actually introduced a feature to stop/postpone 100% charging when the phone thinks it's not required. Would be good if we had similar/more control for Android.
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT210512
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I'm still not sold on the idea that charging a battery to 100% is bad.. But thanks for those links.
doubledragon5 said:
I'm still not sold on the idea that charging a battery to 100% is bad.. But thanks for those links.
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It's actually true. Lithium Ion batters degrade over time, the speed of which, depends on the amount of battery cycles they go through (0-100% and vice versa). Others have done the research and the math and found that generally a 20% to 80% and vice versa charge seems to be the best for longevity.
Personally I charge to 100 but try to charge my phone when it gets to 20-30%.
Sent from my Pixel 3a XL using XDA Labs
doubledragon5 said:
I'm still not sold on the idea that charging a battery to 100% is bad.. But thanks for those links.
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Evidence and research is there. Of course you don't have to believe it. It's your phone, your battery, your money
WibblyW said:
Evidence and research is there. Of course you don't have to believe it. It's your phone, your battery, your money
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So very true my phone my money. In all my years of using cell phones, I think I have actually replaced a battery once because it went bad.
Thank you all for the links and the inputs!
One more symptom - when is very low like this morning - 1% and put it in charger - phone shuts off.
I will keep the battery in 40-80% for the future and limit the drain below 40%. I tried to charge it slow with USB - took me like 6-7 hours...
How long it takes you from zero to 100% with the stock charger - looks very fast to me - 0% to 67% in 35 mins
I personally tried to research and could not find what is worse for these batteries - number of cycles (obvious less when used below 40%) or the low capacity usage ?
TodNex said:
Thank you all for the links and the inputs!
One more symptom - when is very low like this morning - 1% and put it in charger - phone shuts off.
I will keep the battery in 40-80% for the future and limit the drain below 40%. I tried to charge it slow with USB - took me like 6-7 hours...
How long it takes you from zero to 100% with the stock charger - looks very fast to me - 0% to 67% in 35 mins
I personally tried to research and could not find what is worse for these batteries - number of cycles (obvious less when used below 40%) or the low capacity usage ?
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The included charger is a fast charger, good for headlining how fast it charges, not so great for the battery. I just use a 'standard' (Anker) USB charger.
Jury's out on if deeper discharge is bad, but it's the number of complete cycles (0-100% counting as 1). So 40 - 80% is 0.4 of a full cycle, and you're not stressing the battery so much by taking it to 100%. Many folk here replace their phones frequently enough not to be bothered by all this - if they sell it when 20% of the battery capacity's gone, that's fine.
I've observed the behaviour and few things made me question myself...one time I can see 13% battery and palying Youtube just shutdown the phone. Put it into charger and started showing 4% as initial charge.
There was another time when using Viber video shutdown in 23% but can be overheat or software bug.
I try to keep it these days above 40% charge but still use the supplied charger till I buy new slower one.
TodNex said:
I've observed the behaviour and few things made me question myself...one time I can see 13% battery and palying Youtube just shutdown the phone. Put it into charger and started showing 4% as initial charge.
There was another time when using Viber video shutdown in 23% but can be overheat or software bug.
I try to keep it these days above 40% charge but still use the supplied charger till I buy new slower one.
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The good news is that this phone seems to be pretty easy to repair and a battery replacement could very well be a good option for you, especially since you wouldn't be compromising any water resistance or anything