Has anyone try the google camera app on the zenfone 2 ? I've heard pictures might be better
It depends. If you're on CM13, it's better because the Marshmallow version of Google Camera's pretty good, but on the other hand the Marshmallow version of Google Camera is broken with video so it kind of varies. If you're still on stock ROM, then I would recommend Camera FV-5. It's a pretty nice camera.
It depends really. You see the Google Camera that you can download from the PlayStore installs a different version of the app for every version of android that you're running, it also gives certain features that only Nexus phones can utilize. So if you're running stock ZenUI running Lollipop, then i can't say for sure of the quality improves a lot, but if you're running on a custom ROM, then i think it does have a difference. Personally, i'm running ReusrrectionRemix and the image quality is just great.
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Is there any good CM/AOSP based roms that has a good camera quality like in MIUIv7/ColorOS based roms? There is huge difference on the quality in stock rom. I even used the ColorOSCamera Port but the quality is bad. Thanks.
HI,
Unfortunatly I have never encountered a better camera quality than on ColorOS, all pictures taken from CM based or AOSP based rom are blurry etc or low light even after using a CM HAL Mod or the ColorOS camera app.
I beleive that if you want to have such picture quality you'll need to stay on ColorOS or to try on Spectrum Project (that is still at its early stage)
Is it a case of driver support? If so, then no camera app would work well. I've wondered this and it is one reason I kept ColorOS.
Have you tried Camera FV-5
Default Camera App of Xiaomi Redmi Note 5/Pro is not bad!
But when another apps using camera (such as facebook, google Duo...), the picture quality is realy bad? i khow it doen't/isn't because of sensor'quality!
So How to imporve App Camera?
Tks
I always try to take photos with the camera app and then share to other apps, rather than take from within Facebook, hangouts, Viber, WhatsApp, etc. Most of those apps will still compress the image a bit also, so better starting with the best quality image, ie straight from the actual camera app itself.
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gsmyth said:
I always try to take photos with the camera app and then share to other apps, rather than take from within Facebook, hangouts, Viber, WhatsApp, etc. Most of those apps will still compress the image a bit also, so better starting with the best quality image, ie straight from the actual camera app itself.
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But it takes many time and inconvenience. Can any one replace default csmera API for app with better one?
dynamic503 said:
But it takes many time and inconvenience. Can any one replace default csmera API for app with better one?
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You can't change what API an application uses, some apps take advantage of camera2 api. If any of the ones your using do and you haven't enabled camera2 api with magisk or either i think it's a build.prop edit, then there likely to be defaulting to camera1 api that's my guess at least.
This assumes your using a custom rom, i'm not sure if camera2 api is enabled by default with MIUI or if it requires root.Your primary camera app can take advantage of binary, blobs drivers that the third party apps may not necessarily benefit from, no perfect solution try it and see.
gsmyth said:
I always try to take photos with the camera app and then share to other apps, rather than take from within Facebook, hangouts, Viber, WhatsApp, etc. Most of those apps will still compress the image a bit also, so better starting with the best quality image, ie straight from the actual camera app itself.
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Alister. said:
You can't change what API an application uses, some apps take advantage of camera2 api. If any of the ones your using do and you haven't enabled camera2 api with magisk or either i think it's a build.prop edit, then there likely to be defaulting to camera1 api that's my guess at least.
This assumes your using a custom rom, i'm not sure if camera2 api is enabled by default with MIUI or if it requires root.Your primary camera app can take advantage of binary, blobs drivers that the third party apps may not necessarily benefit from, no perfect solution try it and see.
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I have enabled camera api2 already. For google camera. The pic quality is very good. But how can another camera app can use that camera driver?
dynamic503 said:
I have enabled camera api2 already. For google camera. The pic quality is very good. But how can another camera app can use that camera driver?
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I've asked this type of thing before, and had a few developers try to answer it it's messy. The idea is Samsung, LG, Xiaomi every manufacturer has there own default rom.
They call theirs stock, that's their version of stock, it's customised only AOSP is truly stock, but the manufacturers versions of their "own" stock roms include a binary also referred to as binary, blobs, it's pretty much a closed source driver each manufacturer makes so their default camera looks amazing.
A general idea is replacing stock rom from any manufacturer with any that isn't based of their "own" stock rom isn't going to include their camera driver as it's closed source, so developers can't use it, they can get the cameras working but they don't look great compared to stock with binary. Lots of people avoid custom roms lineage os aosp ect for this reason video calls, all apps using the camera look terrible.
Two exceptions google open sources there camera drivers and oneplus might be some rare others, in these cases camera quality is expected to be the same while using lineage os or aosp.
I'm not 100% sure if all apps use camera1 and camera2 api if you try look for whatsapp or google duo i couldn't confirm it for them, snapchat uses camera1 api instagram uses camera2 api, but maybe some apps don't benefit from camera2 api at all i'm unsure.
I also tried asking if google camera ports, look better on stock roms that have the binary driver from companies, compared to lineage os ect that don't have it, but that's unclear as even tho i'm 100% sure the binary from manufacturers benefit there own made camera apps, i'm not 100% if the binary benefits all third party apps, but i guess it does, as that's likely the reason all apps look worse moving away from stock roms.
Google camera ports may look great on roms without, the binary as they simply make use of camera2 api which doesn't really require anything from the closed source driver, which would explain why everyone raves about google camera ports on lineage os ect been great, before camera 2 api never saw people been overly impressed about camera apps with missing binary drivers.
Are you on MIUI or something else? you did say the stock camera app not google camera looks good and everything else looks worse, if your still on MIUI then maybe they don't have a binary or simply one that only effects there own camera app, you mentioned the camera lens quality also it's mostly software driver optimisations per individual app ect influencing it's quality.
You asked how to make other apps use google cameras driver, well google camera is benefiting from camera2 api that isn't a driver at all, however it is a requirement similar aspect to a driver it's up to each app developer if there going to make there, application benefit from camera1 api or camera2 api or not at all, so you cant force apps to use it when the developer of that app never implemented camera2 api to begin with, you enable camera2 api for google camera because custom roms and lots of phones don't have it enabled at all. Some phones sold from stores have camera2 api enabled out of the box.
I do actually wish there was a way to fix this, as i've thought about this myself, i did ask a question here about the same type of thing you can read it if you like.
https://android.stackexchange.com/questions/200073/stock-os-vs-custom-proprietary-camera
also this the different levels of camera2 api supported depending on your phone
https://www.androidexplained.com/camera2-api-support/
the only other idea, i have is if the rom you use lets you choose the stock camera app to use and you change that to google camera and whatever, but i'm sure that's wishful thinking as when you do a video call an app will likely default to it's own camera even if you do that, but couldn't hurt to try it i guess!
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I've asked this type of thing before, and had a few developers try to answer it it's messy. The idea is Samsung, LG, Xiaomi every manufacturer has there own default rom.
They call theirs stock, that's their version of stock, it's customised only AOSP is truly stock, but the manufacturers versions of their "own" stock roms include a binary also referred to as binary, blobs, it's pretty much a closed source driver each manufacturer makes so their default camera looks amazing.
A general idea is replacing stock rom from any manufacturer with any that isn't based of their "own" stock rom isn't going to include their camera driver as it's closed source, so developers can't use it, they can get the cameras working but they don't look great compared to stock with binary. Lots of people avoid custom roms lineage os aosp ect for this reason video calls, all apps using the camera look terrible.
Two exceptions google open sources there camera drivers and oneplus might be some rare others, in these cases camera quality is expected to be the same while using lineage os or aosp.
I'm not 100% sure if all apps use camera1 and camera2 api if you try look for whatsapp or google duo i couldn't confirm it for them, snapchat uses camera1 api instagram uses camera2 api, but maybe some apps don't benefit from camera2 api at all i'm unsure.
I also tried asking if google camera ports, look better on stock roms that have the binary driver from companies, compared to lineage os ect that don't have it, but that's unclear as even tho i'm 100% sure the binary from manufacturers benefit there own made camera apps, i'm not 100% if the binary benefits all third party apps, but i guess it does, as that's likely the reason all apps look worse moving away from stock roms.
Google camera ports may look great on roms without, the binary as they simply make use of camera2 api which doesn't really require anything from the closed source driver, which would explain why everyone raves about google camera ports on lineage os ect been great, before camera 2 api never saw people been overly impressed about camera apps with missing binary drivers.
Are you on MIUI or something else? you did say the stock camera app not google camera looks good and everything else looks worse, if your still on MIUI then maybe they don't have a binary or simply one that only effects there own camera app, you mentioned the camera lens quality also it's mostly software driver optimisations per individual app ect influencing it's quality.
You asked how to make other apps use google cameras driver, well google camera is benefiting from camera2 api that isn't a driver at all, however it is a requirement similar aspect to a driver it's up to each app developer if there going to make there, application benefit from camera1 api or camera2 api or not at all, so you cant force apps to use it when the developer of that app never implemented camera2 api to begin with, you enable camera2 api for google camera because custom roms and lots of phones don't have it enabled at all. Some phones sold from stores have camera2 api enabled out of the box.
I do actually wish there was a way to fix this, as i've thought about this myself, i did ask a question here about the same type of thing you can read it if you like.
https://android.stackexchange.com/questions/200073/stock-os-vs-custom-proprietary-camera
also this the different levels of camera2 api supported depending on your phone
https://www.androidexplained.com/camera2-api-support/
the only other idea, i have is if the rom you use lets you choose the stock camera app to use and you change that to google camera and whatever, but i'm sure that's wishful thinking as when you do a video call an app will likely default to it's own camera even if you do that, but couldn't hurt to try it i guess!
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Thankyou very much. But sad. Because many cheaper phone have better facebook messenger video call quality.
dynamic503 said:
Thankyou very much. But sad. Because many cheaper phone have better facebook messenger video call quality.
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Your welcome, hmm what phones have you seen with better video call quality on facebook messenger? i assume you have compared to more expensive phones.
That just becomes confusing, since for example just because a bunch of apps use camera2 api doesn't mean they will all be the same, software optimisations determine if it looks better or worse.
I would have assumed facebook's software was exactly the same for each phone it has been put on, unless it's simply the case these cheaper phones your speaking of are benefiting from a closed source driver, and for some crazy reason xiaomi phones don't have a binary for it, guess i'll look into that at some point.
Now that i've got this phone, yes xiaomi's camera app in particular is very good photo quality, better then any camera app i've seen on any custom rom very adjustable.
Worth noting i installed lineage os that had the xiaomi's default camera included in the rom i compared the quality to when i was using stock camera on miui itself, i couldn't see any differences in picture quality, which suggests to me perhaps xiaomi's camera isn't using any closed source driver, binary at all and it's quality is simply optimisations and the fact there's no binary driver is why there other apps look worse.
Just guessing at this point, but that's about the only scenario i think makes sense.
Just remembered there's a new thing called Project Treble the note 5 pro can upgrade to be treble compatible i have the note 5 ai so i got treble out of the box the crux is, if you flash a rom well a treble rom is called a GSI, generic system image a benefit of this, if it allows you to keep the vendor partition untouched while using custom roms, the vendor partition is where the closed source driver is and does mean a custom rom can use those drivers as they haven't been removed.
So it would mean custom roms with good camera/videos of course Treble is so new, so who noes if that's working properly yet! and it would assume xiaomis phones had closed drivers, if your not using miui and camera is bad then no surprise try go back to miui you never said what you use.
anyways you can read about that here.
https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/05/13/project-treble-impact-android-custom-rom-community/
it points out the stuff about cameras and roms.
Alister. said:
Your welcome, hmm what phones have you seen with better video call quality on facebook messenger? i assume you have compared to more expensive phones.
That just becomes confusing, since for example just because a bunch of apps use camera2 api doesn't mean they will all be the same, software optimisations determine if it looks better or worse.
I would have assumed facebook's software was exactly the same for each phone it has been put on, unless it's simply the case these cheaper phones your speaking of are benefiting from a closed source driver, and for some crazy reason xiaomi phones don't have a binary for it, guess i'll look into that at some point.
Now that i've got this phone, yes xiaomi's camera app in particular is very good photo quality, better then any camera app i've seen on any custom rom very adjustable.
Worth noting i installed lineage os that had the xiaomi's default camera included in the rom i compared the quality to when i was using stock camera on miui itself, i couldn't see any differences in picture quality, which suggests to me perhaps xiaomi's camera isn't using any closed source driver, binary at all and it's quality is simply optimisations and the fact there's no binary driver is why there other apps look worse.
Just guessing at this point, but that's about the only scenario i think makes sense.
Just remembered there's a new thing called Project Treble the note 5 pro can upgrade to be treble compatible i have the note 5 ai so i got treble out of the box the crux is, if you flash a rom well a treble rom is called a GSI, generic system image a benefit of this, if it allows you to keep the vendor partition untouched while using custom roms, the vendor partition is where the closed source driver is and does mean a custom rom can use those drivers as they haven't been removed.
So it would mean custom roms with good camera/videos of course Treble is so new, so who noes if that's working properly yet! and it would assume xiaomis phones had closed drivers, if your not using miui and camera is bad then no surprise try go back to miui you never said what you use.
anyways you can read about that here.
https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/05/13/project-treble-impact-android-custom-rom-community/
it points out the stuff about cameras and roms.
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Vivo V9 ... have better facebook video call quality...
Thankyou for your information
Camera performance in WhatsApp is very poor for rn5 pro selfie camera. How it could be improved ?
mjnabi said:
Camera performance in WhatsApp is very poor for rn5 pro selfie camera. How it could be improved ?
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No way now. Plz all of us report to Xiaomi
Yes plz report to Xiaomi