Currently running: CM 10.1, build 0319 stock kernel and cpu settings.
TL;DR - The Hercules and its 1GB RAM suddenly seem like it can't multi-task like it once could. However maybe its app developers just heinously demanding more resources so their apps can look amazingly fluid because they forcefully killed everything else in the back?
What's the deal?
I remember a time in yesteryear yonder, whence I would have 5-7 apps running in the back without breaking nary a sweat. SO WHAT THE HELL happened Android? That was back on Touchwiz and Gingerbread!
Today I can't have utorrent and chrome open simultaneously. TWO apps. For instance if I've utorrent downloading, ill switch to Chrome (recent apps switch; not open) and maybe answer a Whatsapp immediately after; utorrent will undoubtedly be killed and must be reactivated.
Now I understand that chrome and utorrent are naturally RAM heavy applications, but it helps further my point. Why are apps being killed so quickly today? Was it Touchwiz that was great at ram management? Was it gingerbread? Or have apps been slowly updating over the last two years and demanding more allocation of RAM from the get go so that everything else gets forcefully killed? I remember when the Hercules was announced and all the reviewers claimed 1GB was such a stupid amount of overkill RAM and we'll never see it taxed. Now that 2GB has become the standard with the introduction of the GS3, I theorize app devs are being more liberal in demanding resources from devices without giving too much consideration for older models. So apps are killed more frequently to make room to the foreground.
So why do you care?
-The stock stopwatch app will die if you run a few more apps afterwards. This is just derp. Really, try this yourself. Can you imagine your morning alarm was silently force killed because you were reading a website before bedtime?
-Some audio apps can be killed as well. ie Doggcatcher. Audio actually stops if certain conditions of apps are opened after Doggcatcher. Derp.
-Device slows to a complete crawl during the course of a day. I don't believe I've ever owned a device (clamshell Sammy, Blackberry or Android) that didn't exhibit facepalm-worthy memory leak issues. If Android was designed to have its RAM filled, why do slowdowns exist?
-Incoming phone calls suffer lag when re-acquiring attention. This seems bizarre because in About > System you can see the Hercules indicates it has 768MB RAM, indicating a quarter is reserved for system apps. Which means it shouldn't really have this problem.
-Application settings requesting 'Persistent Notifications' to ensure app foreground attention. Apps like Tasker, utorrent, Battery Guru request this to remain alive. Is this the solution now? And is this 100% immune if system requires the resources?
-Apps take longer to open. I can't quite pinpoint this. Just a feeling.
Alright man relax, the Galaxy S4 and HTC One come packing with 2GB
Upgrading to a new flagship doesn't seem to be the solution to stifle this issue. App developers are excellent at what they do and naturally want their product to look its best with the resources available to it. With 3D games exhibiting the capabilities of a Snapdragon 600 and Tegra 4, where's the incentive to tell either to slow down? This same logic can be directly applied to the smartphone spec war and the recurring battery life bottleneck story.
Excellent read here from Gizmodo:
http://gizmodo.com/5992917/battery-life-is-the-only-spec-that-matters
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So what's your point?
I'm not sure I have one. I'm just observing whats happening. We are finally actually seeing applications that are pushing our hardware to its limits. While 1GB of onboard RAM used to be a drool inducing spec, 2GB is not really a huge leap considering the jump the Snapdragon S3 made to the S4, S4 Pro and now the 600 in magnitudes of processing power. 2GB would certainly be astronomical, if it took a trip back in time and only had to run 2011 apps. I guess my point is: I'm throwing a tantrum that the Hercules is showing its age, even if it's not its fault.
Forgive my rambling and lack of proof-reading. At work.
mettleh3d said:
Currently running: CM 10.1, build 0319 stock kernel and cpu settings.
TL;DR - The Hercules and its 1GB RAM suddenly seem like it can't multi-task like it once could. However maybe its app developers just heinously demanding more resources so their apps can look amazingly fluid because they forcefully killed everything else in the back?
What's the deal?
I remember a time in yesteryear yonder, whence I would have 5-7 apps running in the back without breaking nary a sweat. SO WHAT THE HELL happened Android? That was back on Touchwiz and Gingerbread!
Today I can't have utorrent and chrome open simultaneously. TWO apps. For instance if I've utorrent downloading, ill switch to Chrome (recent apps switch; not open) and maybe answer a Whatsapp immediately after; utorrent will undoubtedly be killed and must be reactivated.
Now I understand that chrome and utorrent are naturally RAM heavy applications, but it helps further my point. Why are apps being killed so quickly today? Was it Touchwiz that was great at ram management? Was it gingerbread? Or have apps been slowly updating over the last two years and demanding more allocation of RAM from the get go so that everything else gets forcefully killed? I remember when the Hercules was announced and all the reviewers claimed 1GB was such a stupid amount of overkill RAM and we'll never see it taxed. Now that 2GB has become the standard with the introduction of the GS3, I theorize app devs are being more liberal in demanding resources from devices without giving too much consideration for older models. So apps are killed more frequently to make room to the foreground.
So why do you care?
-The stock stopwatch app will die if you run a few more apps afterwards. This is just derp. Really, try this yourself. Can you imagine your morning alarm was silently force killed because you were reading a website before bedtime?
-Some audio apps can be killed as well. ie Doggcatcher. Audio actually stops if certain conditions of apps are opened after Doggcatcher. Derp.
-Device slows to a complete crawl during the course of a day. I don't believe I've ever owned a device (clamshell Sammy, Blackberry or Android) that didn't exhibit facepalm-worthy memory leak issues. If Android was designed to have its RAM filled, why do slowdowns exist?
-Incoming phone calls suffer lag when re-acquiring attention. This seems bizarre because in About > System you can see the Hercules indicates it has 768MB RAM, indicating a quarter is reserved for system apps. Which means it shouldn't really have this problem.
-Application settings requesting 'Persistent Notifications' to ensure app foreground attention. Apps like Tasker, utorrent, Battery Guru request this to remain alive. Is this the solution now? And is this 100% immune if system requires the resources?
-Apps take longer to open. I can't quite pinpoint this. Just a feeling.
Alright man relax, the Galaxy S4 and HTC One come packing with 2GB
Upgrading to a new flagship doesn't seem to be the solution to stifle this issue. App developers are excellent at what they do and naturally want their product to look its best with the resources available to it. With 3D games exhibiting the capabilities of a Snapdragon 600 and Tegra 4, where's the incentive to tell either to slow down? This same logic can be directly applied to the smartphone spec war and the recurring battery life bottleneck story.
Excellent read here from Gizmodo:
So what's your point?
I'm not sure I have one. I'm just observing whats happening. We are finally actually seeing applications that are pushing our hardware to its limits. While 1GB of onboard RAM used to be a drool inducing spec, 2GB is not really a huge leap considering the jump the Snapdragon S3 made to the S4, S4 Pro and now the 600 in magnitudes of processing power. 2GB would certainly be astronomical, if it took a trip back in time and only had to run 2011 apps. I guess my point is: I'm throwing a tantrum that the Hercules is showing its age, even if it's not its fault.
Forgive my rambling and lack of proof-reading. At work.
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lol...I totally agree. My apps seem to close a lot quicker, yet my RAM never dips below 280 MB free. Don't really get it myself...
I am curious as to why there is very little dev's supporting the lg g3. The samsung on the other hand is being supported alot almost make me think i made a mistake getting the lg g3 but i do really like the phone. I guess i was spoiled before the lg because i had all htc phones and there was an unbelievable amount of support for the evos. so what do you guys think are we at the height of our support or will there be more devs picking this phone up?
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I am curious as to why there is very little dev's supporting the lg g3. The samsung on the other hand is being supported alot almost make me think i made a mistake getting the lg g3 but i do really like the phone. I guess i was spoiled before the lg because i had all htc phones and there was an unbelievable amount of support for the evos. so what do you guys think are we at the height of our support or will there be more devs picking this phone up?
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Yes, more people bought it, so there are more devs.
What exactly you want developed for G3?
Kernels? Nah, you can't jump higher than lg did. It's already optimised. You can, of course, add some GCC flags, change toolchain, etc etc etc... For a marginal improvement, at best. Well, you can add undervolting, some modules (ntfs, gamepads, etc), advanced sound control... What else?..
Roms? Well, developing "only for G3!" roms isn't the best idea. Besides, some popular AOSP roms are already ported to g3, ones that haven't been ported don't even have stable 5.0 builds yet. Modding stock rom is almost impossible right now, apktool doesn't fully support neither 5.0, neither lg's special apk's (two apk's with id of 127 sharing resources? LG-way, lol.), so good custom roms aren't even possible yet.
And no, we won't get more support. If you want tons of support - buy Samsung.
I didnt get that too comming from nexus 5 i was expection great dev support for G3 as i consider it the best smartphone specially compare to Lagsung devices...but most of android users see only benchmarks so they go and buy that plastic piece of awfulness....but G3 has a great support..its better to have little and good rather than have 30 same kernels like it was on N5 community...the only thing i can't get is why at least CM isn't official supported!!
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I didnt get that too comming from nexus 5 i was expection great dev support for G3 as i consider it the best smartphone specially compare to Lagsung devices...but most of android users see only benchmarks so they go and buy that plastic piece of awfulness....but G3 has a great support..its better to have little and good rather than have 30 same kernels like it was on N5 community...the only thing i can't get is why at least CM isn't official supported!!
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i agree with both of the posts here and to really answer the first question, there is nothing that i specifically want developed i just was kinda confused as to why the forums are not filled with roms and kernals but you made a good point about saying quality over quantity.. I do really enjoy this phone and consider it the top of the line right now but we will see......
Honestly we have a fair amount of roms at this stage and it will only get better and better but as far as kernels goes I'd wish to see some more with overclocking/undervolting/profiles features in them ..
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Ive had the phone for a month or so now and while the design specs etc are top notch
The performance is not
I find it to be slow and laggy especially the stock messaging app (i know i can use an alternative)
I have the 16gb version and it always seems to be using 88-90% ram at all times with very minimal apps in use
Cant see it being the fact i have the 2gb ram version as previous phones with 2gb ram have performed much better.
Considering getting rid for anther device
^^
Agree fully, had my g3 for just over a week. Bought it from amazon so I have a month to decide.
Phone is terrible for lag, battery usage is woeful.
Perhaps my expectations were too high.
Won't go back to Samsung. Knox has ruined that.
The Moto G Play looks fantastic but no European release.
HTC is speculated to have fantastic new models.
Think the G3 might find itself replaced in the New Year
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^^
Agree fully, had my g3 for just over a week. Bought it from amazon so I have a month to decide.
Phone is terrible for lag, battery usage is woeful.
Perhaps my expectations were too high.
Won't go back to Samsung. Knox has ruined that.
The Moto G Play looks fantastic but no European release.
HTC is speculated to have fantastic new models.
Think the G3 might find itself replaced in the New Year
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Been offered a straight trade for HTC one M8 might take them up on it
As a person coming from Samsung S2, S3, Note 3, I can say that Lg is doing a great job with the G2/G3 stock software! Way better than Samsung! Yes you'll find fingerprint features and some other useless bells and whistles, but LG software is solid, almost lag free, and battery life is king!
During my lifetime with Samsung, I spent most of my time cheating its software with Cyanogenmod.
So, would I be sad to not have the same amount of support on S5? Definitely no! I think what we have is valuable and I haven't felt yet that I need to run away to CM11/12.
manemzjum said:
Ive had the phone for a month or so now and while the design specs etc are top notch
The performance is not
I find it to be slow and laggy especially the stock messaging app (i know i can use an alternative)
I have the 16gb version and it always seems to be using 88-90% ram at all times with very minimal apps in use
Cant see it being the fact i have the 2gb ram version as previous phones with 2gb ram have performed much better.
Considering getting rid for anther device
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I guess my question with those who see terrible battery life, what is it exactly you expect? I always here "terrible battery life", or "laggy". But no one backs it up with examples.
So, for those that are seeing poor battery life, answer these questions:
What is "poor" in your mind? Please provide a measurement such as you expect x amount of hours.
Exactly what are you using your phone for? Are you playing games for hours, shooting and/or viewing HD videos? Listenting to music?
After x hours of usage, how much battery is left after use (and whatever you were doing)?
For those with lag, answer these questions:
How are defining lag? Where are you seeing it and how are you perceiving it?
What apps do you have installed and how many?
What is the amount of storage you have left?
I know some have stated they see lag in the UI such as when they open a drawer, or swipe between screens and such. I guess I've never noticed that before, so maybe they come from a different phone that responded better in their eyes. Things that can help are possibly reducing the animation, but a possible issue could be the screen size. This phone packs a lot more pixels in it than the S5, so I could see how rendering on a screen with a larger pixel density could cause this. However, for me, I don't really notice it, and even if it is there, it must not be a huge amount or else I'd notice it.
As for battery life, I don't know what people are expecting. I get at least a days (24 hours) worth. Now, granted I'm running Greenify which has helped me on other phones, so I'm sure that has a hand in it. However, there was a time I wasn't running Greenify at first with this phone and I remember having the phone charged at 100% when I went to bed, took it off the charger, left it on (I used it as an alarm clock plus as my on-call phone) and when I woke up 6+ hours later, it was STILL at 100%. Adding Greenify has helped to prevent apps from wake locking, but that's not the phone's fault. That's how some apps are written and that in and of itself can cause battery drain, but it's even worse if you out-right kill the app/service all the time.
I make and take phone calls (not all day, mind you), I send and receive texts (not every minute). I do play games (Game of War a lot) and that does drain the battery, but that's going to happen on any phone. I've listen to music on my phone, especially when driving to/from work and other errands. One time, I must have logged over 2 hours on Power Amp. I wanted to see how much it drained the battery, so I kept note of where the battery was at when I started listening and where it was when I stopped listening. Over a two hour total period of listening to music, the battery drained 2%. Not bad if you ask me.
I'm just curious because right now, with this phone, I'm getting better battery life than I did with my RAZR MAXX and my RAZR HD phones. This phone I could possibly go two days before charging. After about 36 hours, I'm at 40% battery, so I could probably go another 12 hours, but when I get to 40%, that's when I start charging back up again.
I'm not trying to dispute what people are saying. I'm just curious as to what people are expecting vs. what they are getting (or perceive as getting) from this phone. Again, most of the time, we get generic statements as "battery life sucks" or "it lags". Great. Please back that up with examples because otherwise, it's all in the eye of the beholder as to what great or sucky battery life is and/or what lag is.
Just to show, im currently at 60% after 21 hours of use. That's with phone calls, playing Game of War, texting, etc. I've attached the screenshot as well.
Just comparing to my Note 3, with stock FW but apex launcher.
Battery would last in excess of a day with quite heavy use, games Internet browsing etc. BT always on auto brightness.
Apps would also open instantly or as expected.
The G3 can has a battery life of less than 4hrs with little or no use. Consumes 18-19% in 7hrs overnight.
Finding myself charging the phone at every opportunity.
I know the Note 3 didn't come with qi, but the qi on the G3 is sooo picky. 1mm off and it doesn't charge.
Using stock launcher just pressing home, first the wallpaper loads followed by the icons then the widgets. No what would be called snappy.
And OMG does it get hot!!! For no reason at all. Not playing games, just emails and Web browsing.
So now I am left wondering if the phone is faulty.
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iBolski said:
I guess my question with those who see terrible battery life, what is it exactly you expect? I always here "terrible battery life", or "laggy". But no one backs it up with examples.
So, for those that are seeing poor battery life, answer these questions:
What is "poor" in your mind? Please provide a measurement such as you expect x amount of hours.
Exactly what are you using your phone for? Are you playing games for hours, shooting and/or viewing HD videos? Listenting to music?
After x hours of usage, how much battery is left after use (and whatever you were doing)?
For those with lag, answer these questions:
How are defining lag? Where are you seeing it and how are you perceiving it?
What apps do you have installed and how many?
What is the amount of storage you have left?
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I have both "issues".
"poor" is g3's screen-on time on 5.0 while browsing using 4g. 5-5:30 hours on latest firmwares isn't much. It was nearly 7 hours on 4.4.2... I always set brightness to 20% auto, lighting conditions are always same.
I use phone for browsing and listening to locally stored music via Bluetooth. No watching or shooting videos or playing games.
After 5 hours of 4g web browsing i am left with empty battery.
Lag:
I define lag as "animation stuttering". I am seeing it everywhere: Vkontakte, Google Play Store, while opening drawer, switching tasks, etc... It lags often, but not always.
I have 47 user apps installed, 0 additional system apps.
The only apps that keep background services or use alarms are: Aqua mail, LMT, SBH52 smart headset, Titanium backup.
There are 4 apps using GCM for push.
There are 6 accounts (Google, Shazam, Skype, VK, tutu.ru and one money app) at sync section.
And i have got 5.4 gb free out of 25 on intsd. Shouldn't slow down writing much.
A perfect setup, right? But it still lags on official firmware.
I would assume you aren't running anything like Greenify, etc. What it sounds like is there are a lot of wake locks going on. That's where Greenify comes in. I also turn off a lot of syncs as I don't need them. As you can see with my screenshot, 60% is where I was at after 21 hours so thus phone can definitely get good battery life. But, if you do a lot of stuff for hours, no phone can keep it's battery life for long. Also, with the quad hd screen this phone has, that is a big drain, but even then, I'm getting great battery life.
Another thing with going to 5.0, it's best to start fresh. Do a factory data reset and start from scratch. Going from 4.x to 5.0, especially with Lollipop, had a lot of changes underneath the hood. There are others getting better or the same battery life, but i also think it all depends on usage.
I dont know with other guys here.but i am very happy with the lg g3 forums
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I already dumped mine at a huge loss. I would say worst phone ever, but that goes to my first Android, the Moto Backflip. Thank goodness my other phone is a M8.
Battery is kinda the only area i don't really have a problem with the phone its not the best but its not the worst
As someone has previously said i also came from a note 3 which in performance blows the G3 out of the water snappy and quick with no lag and instant app openings
Greenify shouldn't be something you should need to do to get rid of lag on a quad core 2.5ghz device with 2GB of ram
Out of the box the thing uses 88% ram considering the actual ROM itself is like 1.6gb just HOW is that possible if the entire contents of the ROM was loaded it into RAM should still only use 76%
Its a high end high spec device extremely poorly calibrated i have an old galaxy S3 that out performs it
To say im bitterly disappointed with this device is an understatement
Only thing i'm having problems with is the fact that the ram is always overload. Used titanium to remove and freeze alot of stuff but still the ram usage is about 1.3 to 1.6gb.
This is on stock rom which is very good to me with no lag and everything an launcher needs.
Battery life from the G3 is very good, on my previous phone I was affraid to leave the house if the battery wasn't filled to 100% with the G3 i left yesterday at 62% and returned from work with still 46% (off course with no heavy use) while my data is always on.
Conclusion for me after a month of use, good value for the money.
manemzjum said:
Battery is kinda the only area i don't really have a problem with the phone its not the best but its not the worst
As someone has previously said i also came from a note 3 which in performance blows the G3 out of the water snappy and quick with no lag and instant app openings
Greenify shouldn't be something you should need to do to get rid of lag on a quad core 2.5ghz device with 2GB of ram
Out of the box the thing uses 88% ram considering the actual ROM itself is like 1.6gb just HOW is that possible if the entire contents of the ROM was loaded it into RAM should still only use 76%
Its a high end high spec device extremely poorly calibrated i have an old galaxy S3 that out performs it
To say im bitterly disappointed with this device is an understatement
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Greenify isn't for lag. It's for battery life.
Again, each to his own. I think it all depends on the perception of the user and what they expect and what they've gotten in the past from other phones.
Form me, this phone blows the RAZR MAXX and RAZR HD out of the water, which is what I came from and I get great battery life (well over 36 hours) before I have to recharge. And even then, at 40%, I probably could go another 12 hours but I choose not to.
Just last night, before I went to bed, the phone was at 100%. When I woke up 6 hours later, it went down only 2%, so I had 98% battery left. I've since used it to check email, read the news, played about 45 minutes of Game of War and did some updates via Google Play and I'm at 90%. That's after 9 hours since I last charged. I'd say those are pretty darn good stats for me.
Again, mileage may vary from user to user and what they expect. And from the responses I'm seeing, that's what I'm gathering. Some are saying the phone is great, others say it's okay, and others say it's awful coming from another phone. So, that definitely shows that it's all in the eye of the beholder.
But I appreciate what everyone has posted. It does appear that some who didn't like this phone have been able to find a phone that works great for them. I always try to state why a phone works great "for me" because that's what it is. It's not necessarily going to work great for someone else, but I also don't want to steer someone towards this phone if it doesn't meet their needs, so I try to explain why and how it works for me as I'm the user of this phone, and everyone else might use it differently.
Ciao!
I don't get why a lot of people are complaining about lag and support and s*** like that.
You are getting lag probably because:
(A) You don't know how to use your phone.
(B) You picked up the 16GB model (which only has 2GB RAM
(C) You're not rooted (seriously, who doesn't root their phones nowadays)
When I got this phone, I didn't have it rooted for a month. Everything was smooth despite having a lot of apps installed. It only became a lag machine when I installed Facebook and its Messenger app.
Yes there are lags from time to time, but do iPhones not lag? Of course they do, all phones do. I don't see all you guys' point.
A good phone doesn't need any sort of custom ROM and kernel, etc etc. Mine has always been on Stock ROM and Kernel, minimal lag. iPhone-like smoothness, I must say (but plus good multitasking. iOS multitasking is s***) In fact, when I upgraded to Android 5.0, it got even better.
I have stayed stock most of the time but I always have Greenify installed, (but battery life was still great before rooting and installing Greenify)
You people are just picky.
Not sure why people are seeing 18%+ drop in battery overnight in standby mode. Must either have a lot of synching going on or a misbehaving app or two.
Me, when I'm at home, WiFi is turned on. I have minimal syncing (apps, calendar, google+, photos).
Here is a screenshot I took this morning. When I first woke up, I was down to 98% overnight (was at 100% when I went to bed at midnight and when I woke at 6:30 am, it dropped only 2%).
At the time I took this screenshot, I had already read the news, did some updates, checked emails, and played about 30 minutes of Game of War and I was down to 94%. That seems like good battery life to me.
Of course, if you really want to improve the battery life of this phone, maybe you can go to Amazon and get this upgrade for the G3:
http://www.amazon.com/Warranty-Zero...id=1411938311&sr=8-1&keywords=zerolemon+lg+g3
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Hi guys,
I've been having this tablet since almost 5 years, at the beginning it was very fast. Fast forward a few years I noticed it has slowed down a lot ( very laggy when playing game like it was lack of ram), it's very hard to navigate on chrome on certain websites, it's so slow that I just stop using it sometimes. I was looking forward for the Tab S3 but it's out of my budget right now. I've tried to format the tablet twice with no success at all. I have developer mode enabled. I've tried to put the animation time down to 0.5x, it hasn't change anything at all. I was wondering if there's anything I could do before it joins the graveyard. I love Samsung products, I'm using a S9 right now and I have the galaxy gear S3 as well but this tablet is killing me.
Thanks
Have you tried a factory reset? deleting all cache? removing unneeded apps? check to see how much ram is being used directly after reboot to see if some apps that are loading can be removed and loaded only when needed?
There are a lot of things that can cause this. I'm running los Nougat on mine and it's perfectly fine, no issues, very responsive.
One thing I'd suggest is don't use Chrome. It uses a ton of memory. I'd suggest switching to los Jelly browser, it's very bare bones, as a browser on a tablet should be.
Hi,
I did try a factory reset along with deleting the caches, I have to take a look into my apps though, I have maybe 800-1gb of ram free when rebooting. I use Nova Launcher hence I pretty much have the same setup than on my cellphone. By slow I mean by example when playing 8 pool, when I hit the ball it move slowly exactly like the tablet would ram. I recl seeing that on my old PC back in the time when I was lack of ram, lol.
I have the same tablet as well, perhaps I shall try a factor reset one day.
It's hard to believe newer tablets will run faster, while the specs aren't that significantly higher. Not much more ram, processor not much faster.
It's almost as if they've deliberately slow down the device as it gets old (like that Apple scandal a while back), but I'm sure that's not the case here, as XDA guys would have dug out that dirt pretty quickly.
I shall try out a reset, and see if it's any better. My last resort will be to replace the battery, I've ebayed one a while back, but never gotten to use it yet.
I will try out a different browser too. I do agree Chrome has gotten quite fat lately. Looking at the Chrome task manager on the desktop reveals some scary amounts of memory used.
Removing the sd card helped me a lot
Removing SD? Wth? If that's the solution, it can go as well to the garbage.
Same here, I just getting this second hand Tablet 2 weeks ago. The Tab is in 99% perfect condition. All running good. It was running stock 6.0.1 MM. Then when i'm trying to swipe the home screen, it's lag and the lag is very noticeable. Then, I'm thinking "Why is this device very slow even they have a high spec?". This is the first time i use this tablet. The reason why i bought a second hand is because, i can't afford Galaxy Tab S2 or Tab S3 and i'm such a poor guy so the Tab S 8.4 is enough for me ?. But, i know how to tweak it better so it makes the CPU awake like before they come. That day i downgraded the Tab to Stock Kitkat 4.4.2 and i never forget to root it. After that, installing eRobot rom v.3.1 Stock Kitkat and also flashed Skyhigh Kernel which is gives you a powerful control of device CPU/GPU. After finishing the setup. and setting up the Skyhigh Kernel(Overclocking CPU/GPU) then reboot. After rebooting, my Tablet come to fresh again and it fresh like new ?. The CPU comes awake and performance always on. But, the powersaving can't really do anything and the battery may drain faster if you're a heavy user. Thank goodness there is still people developing the Kernel. I feel better now. I'm using this Tablet mostly for editing pictures, search information, and listening to music
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Same here, I just getting this second hand Tablet 2 weeks ago. The Tab is in 99% perfect condition. All running good. It was running stock 6.0.1 MM. Then when i'm trying to swipe the home screen, it's lag and the lag is very noticeable. Then, I'm thinking "Why is this device very slow even they have a high spec?". This is the first time i use this tablet. The reason why i bought a second hand is because, i can't afford Galaxy Tab S2 or Tab S3 and i'm such a poor guy so the Tab S 8.4 is enough for me ?. But, i know how to tweak it better so it makes the CPU awake like before they come. That day i downgraded the Tab to Stock Kitkat 4.4.2 and i never forget to root it. After that, installing eRobot rom v.3.1 Stock Kitkat and also flashed Skyhigh Kernel which is gives you a powerful control of device CPU/GPU. After finishing the setup. and setting up the Skyhigh Kernel(Overclocking CPU/GPU) then reboot. After rebooting, my Tablet come to fresh again and it fresh like new ?. The CPU comes awake and performance always on. But, the powersaving can't really do anything and the battery may drain faster if you're a heavy user. Thank goodness there is still people developing the Kernel. I feel better now. I'm using this Tablet mostly for editing pictures, search information, and listening to music
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I also bought it second hand but in my case it is to watch Netflix series on hd with that magnificent amoled and the truth is that I am very happy once I have changed the battery. I'm on android 6 official. The only solution for the tablet to run well in official marshmallow is using the disable package that makes it very usable, a real improvement but for my use the battery lasts 20% more without freezing anything from Samsung, this costs to understand for me but it is like this. For multimedia this tablet is spectacular and that is my use, especially thanks to the 16 10 format, it is ideal. The S4 I do not like, it's very big and very expensive. Long life tab S of 8.4 hahaha ???
I hope I'm wrong but looking at all the forums samsung have really let us down on the exynos chip... Can we c omplain or just wait a ND hope that they sort it out for us
Evrey user gets particular results, I have seen these varying results from the same type of device many, many times, since the days of the note 3, I recall the case of the note 8, there were people claiming absolutely insane SOT numbers, and others extremely low figures
I have the Note 10 plus with Exynos chip and my battery life is great! I had over 2days standby with just over 8 hours of screen on time yesterday! Granted, i do have background data turned off for alot of apps i dont use and i have disabled some apps etc but brightness is on auto and iam using the default theme as oppose to night mode! Iam very happy with mine! Battery life is one of those things that seems to vary massively between people for some reason! I would say the battery is marginally better then the S10 plus and the S10 plus was great!
Out of all my phones, the note 10 plus is the only one that gets me past 5 hours. I got more than 6 hours yesterday.
My old phones average less than 4 hours
Note 8
Lg v20
Note 4
Etc
Now that I have used my note10+ for 4 days, I can say that the battery is really good! I am getting 7+ hrs SOT
winol said:
Now that I have used my note10+ for 4 days, I can say that the battery is really good! I am getting 7+ hrs SOT
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Power management may be causing issues for exynos variants; this happens on the snapdragon variant.
First week it seems ok with battery usage then boom, it goes hog wild nuts... happens every reload.
This may help those with unrooted Note 10's
I get best life if I let Android manage power management completely.
-Avoid using all 3rd party power management apps including Samsung's-
If you start manually setting apps to sleep it can cause increased battery usage; counterintuitive.
Bloatware and Google Transport are also the usual prime suspects.
Samsung Cloud Storage is another; package block* it.
Kill all Samsung, Goggle and carrier feedback.
Package block all carrier apps unless your really need them.
Package block Samsung push and all Knox crapware.
KLMS will still run though; turn off in running processes in demo mode.
Do not use a package blocker to kill Google Transport; simple turn it off. It's dependencies will constantly try to poll it if you use a package blockler on it... and kill battery life.
Clear data on Google transport, framework and Play Services as needed to curb Google transport usage.
Use the factory loaded Samsung Device Manager to clear app caches.
If AOD is on Google Transport brattery usage may be erroneously reported**when screen is off at about 1% every 6 hours; this is normal.
Goggle Transport should stay >1% during SOT.
Use **Gallaxy Labs Battery Tracker to keep an eye on power usage.
Turn off wifi and bluetooth if not using.
*PD MDM
Recently bought a brand new S20+ 5G Exynos and it's running the latest March Security Patch update for Android 11. Problem is, after successfully rooting and killing off some of the ****ty bloatware that Samsung is obsessed to ship with it's Smartphones like Bixby, Samsung cloud, samsung games, pass, and much much more, my S20+ is losing single digit after every few minutes of just bare minimum usage like Browsing through apps, opening a simple utility or app or just wandering through the Settings Menu. I said it BARE MINIMUM since these activities do not cost so much pressure on the battery as running videos, games, installing and deleting and things alike. As I said, I turned off all the unncessary things like GPS, Display Brightness set to almost 20-30%, using BREVENT to keep all the background memory clear off of the background apps. I am not running any games, videos for that matter but my battery consistently losing a digit after every 8 mins I would say on these bare minimum activities. Sometimes even opening the screen and just scrolling through the app drawer drops 2 digits within 10 minutes. I set the display pixels to the lowest minimum and also disable the 125 Hz display smoothness effect.
I read in some posts that since Android 11, many users complained about constant and persisting battery drainage across multiple smartphone brands including Google Pixel users..
I am thinking of reverting back to Android 10 for my S20+. What do you people suggest?
What process/app is draining battery?
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What process/app is draining battery?
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As I said, nothing special in the Battery Usage as well. All the main components like Display and other multiple core system services are hardly using 2% and below.
if you used a backup to setup the phone (smart switch etc) this can cause battery drain. this is my personal experience. if you dont have 5g in your area disable it aswell.
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if you used a backup to setup the phone (smart switch etc) this can cause battery drain. this is my personal experience. if you dont have 5g in your area disable it as well.
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I did not use Smart Switch. It came fresh out of the box. My brother sent it to me from Saudi Arabia. I just reflashed it with the Android 11 KSA Stock Rom and simply rooted it. Also disable Bixby **** and other unwanted Sammy Bloatware.
Yes, I do not have 5G currently in my area and my country as a whole except some 5G Trials.
How to disable 5G???
BTW I charged my Phone and I turned WIFI OFF. It just stayed there and I picked up the phone and just opened it and just used it for a couple of seconds and the battery came down from 99 to 97% on just simple Unlock and simple APP DRAWER browsing with WIFI Being off all this time.
Then I just opened the camera and took a couple of selfie shots and battery came down from 96% to 94% in just 2 mins. WiFi is still off. Only Sim card is active.
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I did not use Smart Switch. It came fresh out of the box. My brother sent it to me from Saudi Arabia. I just reflashed it with the Android 11 KSA Stock Rom and simply rooted it. Also disable Bixby **** and other unwanted Sammy Bloatware.
Yes, I do not have 5G currently in my area and my country as a whole except some 5G Trials.
How to disable 5G???
BTW I charged my Phone and I turned WIFI OFF. It just stayed there and I picked up the phone and just opened it and just used it for a couple of seconds and the battery came down from 99 to 97% on just simple Unlock and simple APP DRAWER browsing with WIFI Being off all this time.
Then I just opened the camera and took a couple of selfie shots and battery came down from 96% to 94% in just 2 mins. WiFi is still off. Only Sim card is active.
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has to be some service that you disabled that is needed for some other sh** from Samsung.
If I were you, I would start all again, flashing the rom, test it without rooting it... see how much is the battery drain like that.... Try that method for removing the apps thru ADB connection without root, it works (search it here in xda)