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I am curious as to why there is very little dev's supporting the lg g3. The samsung on the other hand is being supported alot almost make me think i made a mistake getting the lg g3 but i do really like the phone. I guess i was spoiled before the lg because i had all htc phones and there was an unbelievable amount of support for the evos. so what do you guys think are we at the height of our support or will there be more devs picking this phone up?
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I am curious as to why there is very little dev's supporting the lg g3. The samsung on the other hand is being supported alot almost make me think i made a mistake getting the lg g3 but i do really like the phone. I guess i was spoiled before the lg because i had all htc phones and there was an unbelievable amount of support for the evos. so what do you guys think are we at the height of our support or will there be more devs picking this phone up?
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Yes, more people bought it, so there are more devs.
What exactly you want developed for G3?
Kernels? Nah, you can't jump higher than lg did. It's already optimised. You can, of course, add some GCC flags, change toolchain, etc etc etc... For a marginal improvement, at best. Well, you can add undervolting, some modules (ntfs, gamepads, etc), advanced sound control... What else?..
Roms? Well, developing "only for G3!" roms isn't the best idea. Besides, some popular AOSP roms are already ported to g3, ones that haven't been ported don't even have stable 5.0 builds yet. Modding stock rom is almost impossible right now, apktool doesn't fully support neither 5.0, neither lg's special apk's (two apk's with id of 127 sharing resources? LG-way, lol.), so good custom roms aren't even possible yet.
And no, we won't get more support. If you want tons of support - buy Samsung.
I didnt get that too comming from nexus 5 i was expection great dev support for G3 as i consider it the best smartphone specially compare to Lagsung devices...but most of android users see only benchmarks so they go and buy that plastic piece of awfulness....but G3 has a great support..its better to have little and good rather than have 30 same kernels like it was on N5 community...the only thing i can't get is why at least CM isn't official supported!!
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I didnt get that too comming from nexus 5 i was expection great dev support for G3 as i consider it the best smartphone specially compare to Lagsung devices...but most of android users see only benchmarks so they go and buy that plastic piece of awfulness....but G3 has a great support..its better to have little and good rather than have 30 same kernels like it was on N5 community...the only thing i can't get is why at least CM isn't official supported!!
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i agree with both of the posts here and to really answer the first question, there is nothing that i specifically want developed i just was kinda confused as to why the forums are not filled with roms and kernals but you made a good point about saying quality over quantity.. I do really enjoy this phone and consider it the top of the line right now but we will see......
Honestly we have a fair amount of roms at this stage and it will only get better and better but as far as kernels goes I'd wish to see some more with overclocking/undervolting/profiles features in them ..
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Ive had the phone for a month or so now and while the design specs etc are top notch
The performance is not
I find it to be slow and laggy especially the stock messaging app (i know i can use an alternative)
I have the 16gb version and it always seems to be using 88-90% ram at all times with very minimal apps in use
Cant see it being the fact i have the 2gb ram version as previous phones with 2gb ram have performed much better.
Considering getting rid for anther device
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Agree fully, had my g3 for just over a week. Bought it from amazon so I have a month to decide.
Phone is terrible for lag, battery usage is woeful.
Perhaps my expectations were too high.
Won't go back to Samsung. Knox has ruined that.
The Moto G Play looks fantastic but no European release.
HTC is speculated to have fantastic new models.
Think the G3 might find itself replaced in the New Year
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Agree fully, had my g3 for just over a week. Bought it from amazon so I have a month to decide.
Phone is terrible for lag, battery usage is woeful.
Perhaps my expectations were too high.
Won't go back to Samsung. Knox has ruined that.
The Moto G Play looks fantastic but no European release.
HTC is speculated to have fantastic new models.
Think the G3 might find itself replaced in the New Year
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Been offered a straight trade for HTC one M8 might take them up on it
As a person coming from Samsung S2, S3, Note 3, I can say that Lg is doing a great job with the G2/G3 stock software! Way better than Samsung! Yes you'll find fingerprint features and some other useless bells and whistles, but LG software is solid, almost lag free, and battery life is king!
During my lifetime with Samsung, I spent most of my time cheating its software with Cyanogenmod.
So, would I be sad to not have the same amount of support on S5? Definitely no! I think what we have is valuable and I haven't felt yet that I need to run away to CM11/12.
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Ive had the phone for a month or so now and while the design specs etc are top notch
The performance is not
I find it to be slow and laggy especially the stock messaging app (i know i can use an alternative)
I have the 16gb version and it always seems to be using 88-90% ram at all times with very minimal apps in use
Cant see it being the fact i have the 2gb ram version as previous phones with 2gb ram have performed much better.
Considering getting rid for anther device
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I guess my question with those who see terrible battery life, what is it exactly you expect? I always here "terrible battery life", or "laggy". But no one backs it up with examples.
So, for those that are seeing poor battery life, answer these questions:
What is "poor" in your mind? Please provide a measurement such as you expect x amount of hours.
Exactly what are you using your phone for? Are you playing games for hours, shooting and/or viewing HD videos? Listenting to music?
After x hours of usage, how much battery is left after use (and whatever you were doing)?
For those with lag, answer these questions:
How are defining lag? Where are you seeing it and how are you perceiving it?
What apps do you have installed and how many?
What is the amount of storage you have left?
I know some have stated they see lag in the UI such as when they open a drawer, or swipe between screens and such. I guess I've never noticed that before, so maybe they come from a different phone that responded better in their eyes. Things that can help are possibly reducing the animation, but a possible issue could be the screen size. This phone packs a lot more pixels in it than the S5, so I could see how rendering on a screen with a larger pixel density could cause this. However, for me, I don't really notice it, and even if it is there, it must not be a huge amount or else I'd notice it.
As for battery life, I don't know what people are expecting. I get at least a days (24 hours) worth. Now, granted I'm running Greenify which has helped me on other phones, so I'm sure that has a hand in it. However, there was a time I wasn't running Greenify at first with this phone and I remember having the phone charged at 100% when I went to bed, took it off the charger, left it on (I used it as an alarm clock plus as my on-call phone) and when I woke up 6+ hours later, it was STILL at 100%. Adding Greenify has helped to prevent apps from wake locking, but that's not the phone's fault. That's how some apps are written and that in and of itself can cause battery drain, but it's even worse if you out-right kill the app/service all the time.
I make and take phone calls (not all day, mind you), I send and receive texts (not every minute). I do play games (Game of War a lot) and that does drain the battery, but that's going to happen on any phone. I've listen to music on my phone, especially when driving to/from work and other errands. One time, I must have logged over 2 hours on Power Amp. I wanted to see how much it drained the battery, so I kept note of where the battery was at when I started listening and where it was when I stopped listening. Over a two hour total period of listening to music, the battery drained 2%. Not bad if you ask me.
I'm just curious because right now, with this phone, I'm getting better battery life than I did with my RAZR MAXX and my RAZR HD phones. This phone I could possibly go two days before charging. After about 36 hours, I'm at 40% battery, so I could probably go another 12 hours, but when I get to 40%, that's when I start charging back up again.
I'm not trying to dispute what people are saying. I'm just curious as to what people are expecting vs. what they are getting (or perceive as getting) from this phone. Again, most of the time, we get generic statements as "battery life sucks" or "it lags". Great. Please back that up with examples because otherwise, it's all in the eye of the beholder as to what great or sucky battery life is and/or what lag is.
Just to show, im currently at 60% after 21 hours of use. That's with phone calls, playing Game of War, texting, etc. I've attached the screenshot as well.
Just comparing to my Note 3, with stock FW but apex launcher.
Battery would last in excess of a day with quite heavy use, games Internet browsing etc. BT always on auto brightness.
Apps would also open instantly or as expected.
The G3 can has a battery life of less than 4hrs with little or no use. Consumes 18-19% in 7hrs overnight.
Finding myself charging the phone at every opportunity.
I know the Note 3 didn't come with qi, but the qi on the G3 is sooo picky. 1mm off and it doesn't charge.
Using stock launcher just pressing home, first the wallpaper loads followed by the icons then the widgets. No what would be called snappy.
And OMG does it get hot!!! For no reason at all. Not playing games, just emails and Web browsing.
So now I am left wondering if the phone is faulty.
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iBolski said:
I guess my question with those who see terrible battery life, what is it exactly you expect? I always here "terrible battery life", or "laggy". But no one backs it up with examples.
So, for those that are seeing poor battery life, answer these questions:
What is "poor" in your mind? Please provide a measurement such as you expect x amount of hours.
Exactly what are you using your phone for? Are you playing games for hours, shooting and/or viewing HD videos? Listenting to music?
After x hours of usage, how much battery is left after use (and whatever you were doing)?
For those with lag, answer these questions:
How are defining lag? Where are you seeing it and how are you perceiving it?
What apps do you have installed and how many?
What is the amount of storage you have left?
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I have both "issues".
"poor" is g3's screen-on time on 5.0 while browsing using 4g. 5-5:30 hours on latest firmwares isn't much. It was nearly 7 hours on 4.4.2... I always set brightness to 20% auto, lighting conditions are always same.
I use phone for browsing and listening to locally stored music via Bluetooth. No watching or shooting videos or playing games.
After 5 hours of 4g web browsing i am left with empty battery.
Lag:
I define lag as "animation stuttering". I am seeing it everywhere: Vkontakte, Google Play Store, while opening drawer, switching tasks, etc... It lags often, but not always.
I have 47 user apps installed, 0 additional system apps.
The only apps that keep background services or use alarms are: Aqua mail, LMT, SBH52 smart headset, Titanium backup.
There are 4 apps using GCM for push.
There are 6 accounts (Google, Shazam, Skype, VK, tutu.ru and one money app) at sync section.
And i have got 5.4 gb free out of 25 on intsd. Shouldn't slow down writing much.
A perfect setup, right? But it still lags on official firmware.
I would assume you aren't running anything like Greenify, etc. What it sounds like is there are a lot of wake locks going on. That's where Greenify comes in. I also turn off a lot of syncs as I don't need them. As you can see with my screenshot, 60% is where I was at after 21 hours so thus phone can definitely get good battery life. But, if you do a lot of stuff for hours, no phone can keep it's battery life for long. Also, with the quad hd screen this phone has, that is a big drain, but even then, I'm getting great battery life.
Another thing with going to 5.0, it's best to start fresh. Do a factory data reset and start from scratch. Going from 4.x to 5.0, especially with Lollipop, had a lot of changes underneath the hood. There are others getting better or the same battery life, but i also think it all depends on usage.
I dont know with other guys here.but i am very happy with the lg g3 forums
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I already dumped mine at a huge loss. I would say worst phone ever, but that goes to my first Android, the Moto Backflip. Thank goodness my other phone is a M8.
Battery is kinda the only area i don't really have a problem with the phone its not the best but its not the worst
As someone has previously said i also came from a note 3 which in performance blows the G3 out of the water snappy and quick with no lag and instant app openings
Greenify shouldn't be something you should need to do to get rid of lag on a quad core 2.5ghz device with 2GB of ram
Out of the box the thing uses 88% ram considering the actual ROM itself is like 1.6gb just HOW is that possible if the entire contents of the ROM was loaded it into RAM should still only use 76%
Its a high end high spec device extremely poorly calibrated i have an old galaxy S3 that out performs it
To say im bitterly disappointed with this device is an understatement
Only thing i'm having problems with is the fact that the ram is always overload. Used titanium to remove and freeze alot of stuff but still the ram usage is about 1.3 to 1.6gb.
This is on stock rom which is very good to me with no lag and everything an launcher needs.
Battery life from the G3 is very good, on my previous phone I was affraid to leave the house if the battery wasn't filled to 100% with the G3 i left yesterday at 62% and returned from work with still 46% (off course with no heavy use) while my data is always on.
Conclusion for me after a month of use, good value for the money.
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Battery is kinda the only area i don't really have a problem with the phone its not the best but its not the worst
As someone has previously said i also came from a note 3 which in performance blows the G3 out of the water snappy and quick with no lag and instant app openings
Greenify shouldn't be something you should need to do to get rid of lag on a quad core 2.5ghz device with 2GB of ram
Out of the box the thing uses 88% ram considering the actual ROM itself is like 1.6gb just HOW is that possible if the entire contents of the ROM was loaded it into RAM should still only use 76%
Its a high end high spec device extremely poorly calibrated i have an old galaxy S3 that out performs it
To say im bitterly disappointed with this device is an understatement
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Greenify isn't for lag. It's for battery life.
Again, each to his own. I think it all depends on the perception of the user and what they expect and what they've gotten in the past from other phones.
Form me, this phone blows the RAZR MAXX and RAZR HD out of the water, which is what I came from and I get great battery life (well over 36 hours) before I have to recharge. And even then, at 40%, I probably could go another 12 hours but I choose not to.
Just last night, before I went to bed, the phone was at 100%. When I woke up 6 hours later, it went down only 2%, so I had 98% battery left. I've since used it to check email, read the news, played about 45 minutes of Game of War and did some updates via Google Play and I'm at 90%. That's after 9 hours since I last charged. I'd say those are pretty darn good stats for me.
Again, mileage may vary from user to user and what they expect. And from the responses I'm seeing, that's what I'm gathering. Some are saying the phone is great, others say it's okay, and others say it's awful coming from another phone. So, that definitely shows that it's all in the eye of the beholder.
But I appreciate what everyone has posted. It does appear that some who didn't like this phone have been able to find a phone that works great for them. I always try to state why a phone works great "for me" because that's what it is. It's not necessarily going to work great for someone else, but I also don't want to steer someone towards this phone if it doesn't meet their needs, so I try to explain why and how it works for me as I'm the user of this phone, and everyone else might use it differently.
Ciao!
I don't get why a lot of people are complaining about lag and support and s*** like that.
You are getting lag probably because:
(A) You don't know how to use your phone.
(B) You picked up the 16GB model (which only has 2GB RAM
(C) You're not rooted (seriously, who doesn't root their phones nowadays)
When I got this phone, I didn't have it rooted for a month. Everything was smooth despite having a lot of apps installed. It only became a lag machine when I installed Facebook and its Messenger app.
Yes there are lags from time to time, but do iPhones not lag? Of course they do, all phones do. I don't see all you guys' point.
A good phone doesn't need any sort of custom ROM and kernel, etc etc. Mine has always been on Stock ROM and Kernel, minimal lag. iPhone-like smoothness, I must say (but plus good multitasking. iOS multitasking is s***) In fact, when I upgraded to Android 5.0, it got even better.
I have stayed stock most of the time but I always have Greenify installed, (but battery life was still great before rooting and installing Greenify)
You people are just picky.
Not sure why people are seeing 18%+ drop in battery overnight in standby mode. Must either have a lot of synching going on or a misbehaving app or two.
Me, when I'm at home, WiFi is turned on. I have minimal syncing (apps, calendar, google+, photos).
Here is a screenshot I took this morning. When I first woke up, I was down to 98% overnight (was at 100% when I went to bed at midnight and when I woke at 6:30 am, it dropped only 2%).
At the time I took this screenshot, I had already read the news, did some updates, checked emails, and played about 30 minutes of Game of War and I was down to 94%. That seems like good battery life to me.
Of course, if you really want to improve the battery life of this phone, maybe you can go to Amazon and get this upgrade for the G3:
http://www.amazon.com/Warranty-Zero...id=1411938311&sr=8-1&keywords=zerolemon+lg+g3
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I have read numerous posts about the Android L cell standby bug on the One M8 and used that to make as many changes as possible before posting here. I haven't seen many posts where the HTC One M9 was affected by the MM update in this way.
I have had my Verizon One M9 since March 2015 (preorderd it), and it worked great on Lollipop. My cell standby was consistently under 5%. Then, I upgraded to 6.0 around March 2016 and have been noticing consistent battery drain from what I think is the Phone Radio (Gsam) or Cell Standby (stock battery app). It is >40% with the screen on and >30% with the screen off. Airplane mode appears to help with the cell standby percentage (down to 5% after 12 hours, battery down by ~15%). I am also having more issues with the phone heating up; 114 Fahrenheit was the highest I noticed before it stopped functioning from the heat.
What I've tried:
-Verizon's Repair Assistant/Software Upgrade Tool
-Factory Reset
-Wipe Cache Partition
-Clear Network Settings
-Turn off Advanced Calling (seemed to help the most)
-Switch from Global to LTE/CDMA
-Keeping WiFi off unless I'm downloading something (helps the WiFi battery drain issue)
-Location off
What I have NOT tried:
-Booting into safe mode (my apps don't seem to be misbehaving per Gsam or the stock monitor)
-Unlocking the bootloader and flashing a custom ROM. (I'm S-On with a Locked Bootloader.)
In all fairness, I get good battery life (2 days) if I don't use my phone (<1 hour SOT in a day). If I use my phone, it dies in like 6 hours. I lose over 10% per hour of active use (Chrome, texting, Gmail). I don't have Facebook, Twitter, or G+, but I use Hangouts.
Reason I'm concerned: People I live with, same contract have a 1% cell standby (Samsung Galaxy S5 on 6.0.1). Why is my phone's cell standby so high even though this issue was supposedly fixed for MM?
Thoughts?
Hi, I agree, its pretty bad. You are getting better battery life than I am...
I've been on a stock rooted/S-Off for only three weeks or so, but am considering going back to my M8 because the battery life is so poor. (and I actually would use FM radio , which I can not on the M9 Verizon)
I run no social networking apps, have uninstalled everything I don't actually use.
GSAM tells me Google Play services is a culprit, so just today I've removed my Google acct, location turned off unless I need it, and will test over the next day or so .
I'm waiting for a custom rom probably HTC 10 port to get rave reviews and will likely give that a go .
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Hi, I agree, its pretty bad. You are getting better battery life than I am...
I've been on a stock rooted/S-Off for only three weeks or so, but am considering going back to my M8 because the battery life is so poor. (and I actually would use FM radio , which I can not on the M9 Verizon)
I run no social networking apps, have uninstalled everything I don't actually use.
GSAM tells me Google Play services is a culprit, so just today I've removed my Google acct, location turned off unless I need it, and will test over the next day or so .
I'm waiting for a custom rom probably HTC 10 port to get rave reviews and will likely give that a go .
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I'm not rooted yet. I noticed high Google Play Services usage (don't remember the exact percentage and didn't screenshot it) a few days of upgrading to Android M. It seemed to help to backup my data, factory reset the phone, run Verizon's Repair Assistant/Software Upgrade tool, and turn off Advanced Calling. Now Google Play Services is calculated at using 10% of my battery since last full charge (4.9% per GSam App Sucker). The cell standby issue was probably there all along, but I just didn't notice it until I tamed the Google Play Services drain. Maybe doing what I did will help you. I can't post outside links yet, but if you Google "Verizon's Repair Assistant - Software Upgrade (HTC)," it will be the first result that comes up.
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I suspect my phone's issue is a reporting bug, as some other posts have suggested. I feel bad complaining since I get great battery life if I don't use my phone. Comparing phone radio usage with airplane mode on for 12 hours to not using my phone for 12 hours (airplane mode off), the only difference was in reporting. It was 5% with airplane mode on and like 35% with it off. Same amount of battery was used. Perhaps the screen is really what's draining my battery. All I know is that I used to get double the screen-on-hours while running way more apps when I had Lollipop.
Winnie-the-Pooh said:
I have read numerous posts about the Android L cell standby bug on the One M8 and used that to make as many changes as possible before posting here. I haven't seen many posts where the HTC One M9 was affected by the MM update in this way.
I have had my Verizon One M9 since March 2015 (preorderd it), and it worked great on Lollipop. My cell standby was consistently under 5%. Then, I upgraded to 6.0 around March 2016 and have been noticing consistent battery drain from what I think is the Phone Radio (Gsam) or Cell Standby (stock battery app). It is >40% with the screen on and >30% with the screen off. Airplane mode appears to help with the cell standby percentage (down to 5% after 12 hours, battery down by ~15%). I am also having more issues with the phone heating up; 114 Fahrenheit was the highest I noticed before it stopped functioning from the heat.
What I've tried:
-Verizon's Repair Assistant/Software Upgrade Tool
-Factory Reset
-Wipe Cache Partition
-Clear Network Settings
-Turn off Advanced Calling (seemed to help the most)
-Switch from Global to LTE/CDMA
-Keeping WiFi off unless I'm downloading something (helps the WiFi battery drain issue)
-Location off
What I have NOT tried:
-Booting into safe mode (my apps don't seem to be misbehaving per Gsam or the stock monitor)
-Unlocking the bootloader and flashing a custom ROM. (I'm S-On with a Locked Bootloader.)
In all fairness, I get good battery life (2 days) if I don't use my phone (<1 hour SOT in a day). If I use my phone, it dies in like 6 hours. I lose over 10% per hour of active use (Chrome, texting, Gmail). I don't have Facebook, Twitter, or G+, but I use Hangouts.
Reason I'm concerned: People I live with, same contract have a 1% cell standby (Samsung Galaxy S5 on 6.0.1). Why is my phone's cell standby so high even though this issue was supposedly fixed for MM?
Thoughts?
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I'm quite sure I have this same problem. I've only had my M9 a week, and am seeing some strange and inconsistent battery drain. The majority of time if I'm doing a simple task like texting or checking e-mail, the phone gets warm (warmer than anything I've used). Battery seems to deplete quickly too, mainly with some from of google services being the culprit. However, I've also noticed high mobile radio usage. I can see that the mobile radio is active pretty much the same amount of time phone radio is, even when on wifi....I've never experienced this before. It is as if the mobile radio is constantly locked on (which I noticed there is a check box for this in dev options). I know the Moto X 2013 had this same issue when updating to L, and was never patched. I came from a Droid Maxx, so maybe I was spoiled with battery, but I can almost sit and watch my battery drain on this M9 (and thaw my hands if necessary). I also have rooted every android I have owned, and decided I don't want to root the M9 and take a break from all that. Immediately a bit annoyed with the heat and abysmal battery life. That said, build quality is great, and the user experience is quite good and fluid (aside from ridiculously pointless pinned notifications like when boomsound is active or when you connect to wifi and it reminds you you're connected....both mind bogglingly stupid and take up way too much of the notification panel).
If I have to disable a bunch of features to get it to not heat up and/or use less mobile radio, most likely will sell it. Unless rooting and romming helps? Though initially I'm not seeing much development on this M9. I want to like this phone so badly but these problems that shouldn't be problems make it a bit hard to do so.
I know, our device has really great battery life and I don't have anything to complain about that, but a friend of mine just got himself a new phone and his values make me a bit jealous and most of all: surprised and stunned.
He got himself a Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 (SD 625 variant, MKT variant really sucks), it has the same processor, same display and not even 700 mAh more (4100 mAh) and he got with some "dev rom" (made by Xiaomi, seems to just be the beta of that ugly MIUI 9, based on Andorid 7.0) 6h of SOT, doze seems to haven't really kicked in in that time. in their forum in the SOT thread I see people getting normally about 8-10 with up to over 12 h of SOT, most of them on stock ROM without any additions. And I'm quite irritated about that huge of a difference with not that much more battery. And he seems quite convinced that it's not on the cost of performance, you should notice that quickly on such a heavily skinned ROM.
Now my question is: how in hell is that even possible? I mean our devices seem quite comparablewith just a slight bump in battery but near-stock AOSP Android against pretty much an iOS clone. Does anyone have any idea what could cause that big of a difference? And if it's software based could that be done on our device? Because my experience and from different posts our device lasts about 5-6 h normally.
I mean I'm already lucky about my 2 days of usage with up to about 2.5 days on some weekends where I have a lot of stuff to do. But I wouldn't mind a bit of extra. But my biggest problem with that is as simple as: how? I could really use some explaination right now...
I don't have issues with device.. stock 7.1.1 with dec.patch, unlocked bootloader, with latest magisk. Also installed greenify.
Then you are one of very rare cases. My experience is about half of that.
And I also meant on stock ROM, without any modifications. So I don't know which apps you greenified, but that was not the point. I use Greenify too but more for apps that aren't supposed to run constantly in background when I only use it very seldomly.
The norm for this phone is 8+ hours SOT. Sometimes I get 10 and a few have had up to 12. Unless you're gaming 8 should be easy. 5 hours means something is wrong with your phone hardware, you have a rogue battery eating app or you're gaming. I rarely charge my phone over the weekend even when I use it a lot.
Well, neither of that is the case and I rarely see people claiming more than 6h of SOT
So the answer to your question is, it's the wrong question. The question should be, why does my battery not last very long and what apps or usage causes me to have such poor battery life? Compared to the Redmi Note 4 the Z Play is exactly where it should be.
Here's a link to the SOT thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z-play/review/screen-time-t3643959
gsmarena battery life test 100h endurance rating: https://www.gsmarena.com/battery-test.php3?idPhone=8310#show
Here's an app to help diagnose battery condition (Accubattery): https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.digibites.accubattery&hl=en
also betterbatterystats is really helpful.
I sincerely hope you get it sorted out!
Well, gsam isn't detecting any app that's off even with root so I don't think there is any. I installed that AccuBattery app, let's see what it has to say
Removed because of ****ty q&a system...
Oh, and another thing I noticed: I get very randomly reboots, and every time the battery percentage drops massively. Just had a 30% drop. And after the reboot the battery percentage seems like frozen. Now I rebooted and plugged in the cable and got 44% again... No fast charging. Do that detection seems very off
Motorola forum isn't helpful at all. Clearing cache and dalvik didn't change anything and running around for a week in secure mode (that's how random they mostly are) or even doing a factory reset without restoring apps is out of question for obvious reasons.
That's pretty weird. Did you try a factory reset and after restore your apps? There's not a lot you can do if you're not rooted, but you shouldn't need to do much anyway on stock rom.
Only other option is full RSD lite OS restore as a last resort.
I am rooted for long, that's why I use Greenify. I know it also works without but then it's a joke. As RSD lite is, it just refuses for everyone to detect anything on Windows 10.
Factory reset is out of question for the moment, it takes way too long to do it properly (with titanium and NANDroid backup first) and I won't have that much time probably for the whole of this month. Otherwise I would most likely already have went off to the next best custom ROM since Motorola just can't get their **** together and still work on 8.0 in test for 2.5 month with searching testers for another one.
I think the next thing I'll do is to try the good old battery calibration, just have to find the file storing the statistics. I know many say that won't work but that's rubbish, it worked for me already a few times
Update: no, no change. Don't know if that funky battery percentage bug on random reboots still happen since I haven't had any again yet, but they come too random and unpredictable.
And that AccuBattery just proves to be worthless. It tries to estimate the rest capacity, but then it even fails to detect original capacity by 500 mAh. The battery sucker stats are also unrealistic. It puts chrome first with 10%, while GSam with root puts it 5th at 4.6% after kernel, Spotify, Android system and fight services. Android itself even puts it 9th with screen, phone idle, cell standby, Android OS and Bluetooth in-between.
So let's see what happens first. Motorola releasing 8.0, which I will flash through the .xml.zip, this time using flashfile.xml which should force a factory reset... Or me finding the time to switch to a custom ROM
Edit: so I got another one, bit this time no crazy battery drop. But the other times I killed of the soft reboot sequence because Magisk can have some problems with that. This time I didn't
Yesterday I was finally able to do the factory reset since those darn random reboots became too annoying and Moto's support is had just the most ridiculous ideas... In the worst way.
Either way, now OTA looks better, let's see how it will turn out in the next days
Hi dear Team
I got my 10 plus (5g) although 3 uk is still to deliver it in order to see the speeds.
I am completely in love with the phone, for sure.
However, my problem is the battery.
Previous device was Mate 20 pro, with a battery that literally could last the full day , this one not really.
while on Mate 20 pro I would go home after 14h , with still 20% , now If I am lucky, It will have 3%
Different screen yeah, but it still feels bad.
Quality is (default) so not even enjoying the full resolution out of it.
Could you help me or tell me your experience as well?
I remember the times with my S8 that while on Roaming, I had to charge it 2 or even 3 times during the day
Thanks!
blackhawk said:
I use a package blocker. Cloud services including Google's suck down the battery. I blocked Goggle Backup Transport, Framwork, Playstore and Samsung's cloud junk. I only run them when I need them.
Samsung Push, blocked.
You need to closely watch what happens when you block them and opposed to toggling them off.
They're witchy.
I actively monitor milliamp usage realtime to spot runaways. I'm running at around 140-300 ma right now.
MA closely mirrors the cpu usage.
Screen off my power usage with AOD active is around 1%@hr.
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Hey can you share the exact list of apps that you have disabled. That would be really nice of you. I don't wanna risk doing something stupid.
Battery life is the only thing my note 10 plus is struggling with.
Subham jyoti said:
Hey can you share the exact list of apps that you have disabled. That would be really nice of you. I don't wanna risk doing something stupid.
Battery life is the only thing my note 10 plus is struggling with.
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Disably all power management including Samsung's and especially any carrier apps.
-Untoggle any power saving settings first.-
Disable all cloud apps. Knox junk.
Disable carrier, Samsung and Google feedback trash.
All Bixby except Bixby vision and Bixby vision framework which the cam needs.
Otherwise you need to sort through, learn which ones you want/use, and how they interact. Some bloatware you probably use and want to keep.
Some like Playstore I keep disabled unless I need it.
Each set up is different... play with it.
Do you have Bixby wake up word on?
It used 37 % of battery yesterday. Took me a week to figure this out as the battery was not doing well for me either.
Disable Bixby entirely!!
298j said:
Hi dear Team
I got my 10 plus (5g) although 3 uk is still to deliver it in order to see the speeds.
I am completely in love with the phone, for sure.
However, my problem is the battery.
Previous device was Mate 20 pro, with a battery that literally could last the full day , this one not really.
while on Mate 20 pro I would go home after 14h , with still 20% , now If I am lucky, It will have 3%
Different screen yeah, but it still feels bad.
Quality is (default) so not even enjoying the full resolution out of it.
Could you help me or tell me your experience as well?
I remember the times with my S8 that while on Roaming, I had to charge it 2 or even 3 times during the day
Thanks!
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Don't compare it to the Mate 20 Pro. That phone is just in a league of its own. The P30 Pro battery is even better so don't expect anything close to that as these phones are known for insane battery life.
Are you using snapdragon or Exynos?
If you are using Exynos then you won't get what the Snapdragon variant offers. Snapdragon has better battery life and this is the problem with Samsung. They should make all their phones using snapdragon chips
Hello,
Was wondering if someone has had the same experience with their note 10+.
I got my device on the 22nd of Aug and since day 1 the battery has always been showing 99% almost immediately after disconnecting from the charger.
But after that, it discharges normally. Have had no issues with SOT as well.
This wasnt the case with my note 8 and note 9. They used to stay on 100% for a while after disconnecting from the charger.
But was wondering if anyone else has had the same experience with their Note 10+.
Thank you.
viruscmotu said:
Hello,
Was wondering if someone has had the same experience with their note 10+.
I got my device on the 22nd of Aug and since day 1 the battery has always been showing 99% almost immediately after disconnecting from the charger.
But after that, it discharges normally. Have had no issues with SOT as well.
This wasnt the case with my note 8 and note 9. They used to stay on 100% for a while after disconnecting from the charger.
But was wondering if anyone else has had the same experience with their Note 10+.
Thank you.
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There is a thread adressing this issue
Do a factory reset... the first thing you have to do with a new phone is do that. Gl.
winol said:
There is a thread adressing this issue
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Link to thread?
Conito11 said:
Do a factory reset... the first thing you have to do with a new phone is do that. Gl.
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aleekwen said:
Do you have Bixby wake up word on?
It used 37 % of battery yesterday. Took me a week to figure this out as the battery was not doing well for me either.
Disable Bixby entirely!!
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How do you disable Bixby?? I would like to disable also since i dont use it and it is also eating up battery.
CCSWE App manager in playstore, you have to buy it, but works really well
blake .l said:
How do you disable Bixby?? I would like to disable also since i dont use it and it is also eating up battery.
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I only needed to disable the always on listening for the wake-up word for my battery to get back to normal (and disable bixby routines in settings).
Battery is OK now for me - still not as good as Huawei Mate 20 Pro but good enough.
aleekwen said:
Do you have Bixby wake up word on?
It used 37 % of battery yesterday. Took me a week to figure this out as the battery was not doing well for me either.
Disable Bixby entirely!!
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Package block all Bixby crapware except
-Bixby Vision and Bixby Vision Framework- (use by camera!!!).
Ha-ha kill wittle Bixby... don't need no big sister.
With an Exynos variant I get 7, 7 and a half hours TOS, of course if I play games the phone won't last me all day.
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XxReApErxX said:
With an Exynos variant I get 7, 7 and a half hours TOS, of course if I play games the phone won't last me all day.
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I use a package blocker. Cloud services including Google's suck down the battery. I blocked Goggle Backup Transport, Framwork, Playstore and Samsung's cloud junk. I only run them when I need them.
Samsung Push, blocked.
You need to closely watch what happens when you block them and opposed to toggling them off.
They're witchy.
I actively monitor milliamp usage realtime to spot runaways. I'm running at around 140-300 ma right now.
MA closely mirrors the cpu usage.
Screen off my power usage with AOD active is around 1%@hr.
Recently bought a brand new S20+ 5G Exynos and it's running the latest March Security Patch update for Android 11. Problem is, after successfully rooting and killing off some of the ****ty bloatware that Samsung is obsessed to ship with it's Smartphones like Bixby, Samsung cloud, samsung games, pass, and much much more, my S20+ is losing single digit after every few minutes of just bare minimum usage like Browsing through apps, opening a simple utility or app or just wandering through the Settings Menu. I said it BARE MINIMUM since these activities do not cost so much pressure on the battery as running videos, games, installing and deleting and things alike. As I said, I turned off all the unncessary things like GPS, Display Brightness set to almost 20-30%, using BREVENT to keep all the background memory clear off of the background apps. I am not running any games, videos for that matter but my battery consistently losing a digit after every 8 mins I would say on these bare minimum activities. Sometimes even opening the screen and just scrolling through the app drawer drops 2 digits within 10 minutes. I set the display pixels to the lowest minimum and also disable the 125 Hz display smoothness effect.
I read in some posts that since Android 11, many users complained about constant and persisting battery drainage across multiple smartphone brands including Google Pixel users..
I am thinking of reverting back to Android 10 for my S20+. What do you people suggest?
What process/app is draining battery?
digitaljeff said:
What process/app is draining battery?
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As I said, nothing special in the Battery Usage as well. All the main components like Display and other multiple core system services are hardly using 2% and below.
if you used a backup to setup the phone (smart switch etc) this can cause battery drain. this is my personal experience. if you dont have 5g in your area disable it aswell.
MRDOCA said:
if you used a backup to setup the phone (smart switch etc) this can cause battery drain. this is my personal experience. if you dont have 5g in your area disable it as well.
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I did not use Smart Switch. It came fresh out of the box. My brother sent it to me from Saudi Arabia. I just reflashed it with the Android 11 KSA Stock Rom and simply rooted it. Also disable Bixby **** and other unwanted Sammy Bloatware.
Yes, I do not have 5G currently in my area and my country as a whole except some 5G Trials.
How to disable 5G???
BTW I charged my Phone and I turned WIFI OFF. It just stayed there and I picked up the phone and just opened it and just used it for a couple of seconds and the battery came down from 99 to 97% on just simple Unlock and simple APP DRAWER browsing with WIFI Being off all this time.
Then I just opened the camera and took a couple of selfie shots and battery came down from 96% to 94% in just 2 mins. WiFi is still off. Only Sim card is active.
noob_coder said:
I did not use Smart Switch. It came fresh out of the box. My brother sent it to me from Saudi Arabia. I just reflashed it with the Android 11 KSA Stock Rom and simply rooted it. Also disable Bixby **** and other unwanted Sammy Bloatware.
Yes, I do not have 5G currently in my area and my country as a whole except some 5G Trials.
How to disable 5G???
BTW I charged my Phone and I turned WIFI OFF. It just stayed there and I picked up the phone and just opened it and just used it for a couple of seconds and the battery came down from 99 to 97% on just simple Unlock and simple APP DRAWER browsing with WIFI Being off all this time.
Then I just opened the camera and took a couple of selfie shots and battery came down from 96% to 94% in just 2 mins. WiFi is still off. Only Sim card is active.
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has to be some service that you disabled that is needed for some other sh** from Samsung.
If I were you, I would start all again, flashing the rom, test it without rooting it... see how much is the battery drain like that.... Try that method for removing the apps thru ADB connection without root, it works (search it here in xda)