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T-Mobile USA LP OTA

Has ANYONE gotten it yet? I feel like I've been reading "You should get the OTA any day now" stories online for a couple months now, and still NOTHING! I am curious if ANYONE has actually gotten it that's on T-Mobile in the US.

Elvis_Marmaduke said:
Has ANYONE gotten it yet? I feel like I've been reading "You should get the OTA any day now" stories online for a couple months now, and still NOTHING! I am curious if ANYONE has actually gotten it that's on T-Mobile in the US.
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You can rest assured that if it were available there would be a version of it posted here on xda. When it is it will be on here within moments of the devs getting their hands on it or anyone for that matter.

Have you read the correct ones vause what ive seen says that us carriers wont start pushing anything till almost march

The Galaxy S5 got the lollipop 5.0 update in the USA. Thanks LG, while you're busy releasing the update for users in Nigeria, the enthusiasts in the USA are still stuck on KitKat... mine boggling......
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I'd not LG's fault. In the US the carriers test the software, have LG put their own software on the phone and then test done more. They are the cause if the delay, and with T-mobile they at have Wi-Fi calling so probably even more delay to test that.

Good to know, but I was wondering because I was going back to stock, but course leaving it rooted, but then there was an update. Was that the update that we're all waiting for? or is it just a minor update I think I saw something like 247MB don't know if thats correct but I was going to unroot my phone just to get that update, but thats not Lollipop right?

Alrighty then so... Thanks T-mobile....
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I think that tweet from LG USA was designed to put pressure on the carriers to hasten the release. Unfortunately for LG this may backfire on them. Most people think phone manufactueres are responsible for timely release of updates. US carriers need to add their bloatware and wi-fi calling in T-mobiles case to the new update. LG's part is done. Call your local branches and bug the crap out of them.

What is so great about lollipop? Xposed doesnt work with it among other things. I would not update even if it was available right now.

glcK23 said:
The Galaxy S5 got the lollipop 5.0 update in the USA. Thanks LG, while you're busy releasing the update for users in Nigeria, the enthusiasts in the USA are still stuck on KitKat... mine boggling......
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Personally, I find it mind boggling that you would blame LG and not T-Mobile. Talk about blaming the wrong party.
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bigcletus said:
What is so great about lollipop? Xposed doesnt work with it among other things. I would not update even if it was available right now.
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I'm with you. I have no interest.

Okay then I blame everyone. Better?
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Just saw news , sprint is getting on Feb 16. We might get before that

So I flashed my phone back to the M version for our phone and did the OTA to R. It said the R update is only available until Feb. 10 so it'll probably be shortly after that.

Id think thay would be a fair assesment. So before mar 1 we could plan to see a roll out or at least definite word

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Just saw news , sprint is getting on Feb 16. We might get before that
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That'd be nice

stratus1011 said:
So I flashed my phone back to the M version for our phone and did the OTA to R. It said the R update is only available until Feb. 10 so it'll probably be shortly after that.
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I would think this means the update is hitting phones on the 10th or 11th. Normally they keep the old update rolling until they hot swap with the new one. I would imagine only hours of downtime for updates if they don't hot swap. Then again some people still haven't received the ota notification yet... Who knows?

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So I flashed my phone back to the M version for our phone and did the OTA to R. It said the R update is only available until Feb. 10 so it'll probably be shortly after that.
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I would think this means the update is hitting phones on the 10th or 11th. Normally they keep the old update rolling until they hot swap with the new one. I would imagine only hours of downtime for updates if they don't hot swap. Then again some people still haven't received the ota notification yet... Who knows?
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Sorry to kill the hype, but afaik that date doesn't mean anything.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/1...-otas-doesnt-mean-what-you-may-wish-it-meant/
And OTA rolls out in stages, that's why not everyone is getting the OTA notification.

HTC M8 is getting it on the 8th, so in this case the date mentioned sounds like it could be true
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HTC M8 is getting it on the 8th, so in this case the date mentioned sounds like it could be true
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And yet there is no ETA for lollipop on the S5 (as for T-mobile variant). Judging the ETA for update for the LG G3 from the update intended for another device from another manufacturer is very immature.
Don't get me wrong, I would want 5.0 on my G3 asap, but I just want to point our that that date is irrelevant, just as the post from AP I linked suggested.

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And yet there is no ETA for lollipop on the S5 (as for T-mobile variant). Judging the ETA for update for the LG G3 from the update intended for another device from another manufacturer is very immature.
Don't get me wrong, I would want 5.0 on my G3 asap, but I just want to point our that that date is irrelevant, just as the post from AP I linked suggested.
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Nobody asked nor cares what your opinion is to my post.
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T-Mobile Publishes Software Update Tracker Webpage

http://www.droid-life.com/2015/02/2...le-publishes-software-update-tracker-webpage/
LG G3 is not listed.

Figures... Thanks for the link though

But no LG phones are listed, so it must be unlisted for a reason other than no update coming...

Nexus 6 isn't listed either. I'm pretty sure being omitted from that list does not mean the G3 isn't getting lollipop.

I am not quite sure as to how the LG G3 Lollipop update was left off of the list, but I am happy to report it is in the T-Mobile testing phase. And our testing is going really well. I will reach out to product development and try to get it added to the list. Thank you for pointing this out.
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Being taken care of.

Yeah that's pretty friggin depressing when our phone isn't even listen as a device on the timeline.

pypen said:
Being taken care of.
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Where did this come from?

Jason Syn said:
Yeah that's pretty friggin depressing when our phone isn't even listen as a device on the timeline.
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Agreed

G3 is now listed as 'Manufacturer Development'.

Why on earth is T-Mobile just now in the testing phase when every other carrier has had a release. T -mobile is the new Verizon when it comes to updates, very sad. I expected more from the uncarrier.

Maybe they are trying to fix the roaming data connectivity issues wrt IPv6. See the old threads.

jrglasson said:
Maybe they are trying to fix the roaming data connectivity issues wrt IPv6. See the old threads.
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Could be, T-Mobile is the only carrier using IPV6 only on LTE (if I'm not mistaken). They could also have required VoLTE be working, so LG could be taking longer to make sure all this works. Still sucks that it's taking so long.

i had to move from a nexus 5 to a lg g3, what a regression when you see t-mobile slowing such updates!

I've been using a Moto X 2nd Gen. New job has the silly policy of not allowing rooted devices to access our craptastic Lotus Notes e-mail. The G3's KitKat build is unusable without root. Hoping Lollipop is better, otherwise the G3 will be finding a new home.

bedroidapp said:
i had to move from a nexus 5 to a lg g3, what a regression when you see t-mobile slowing such updates!
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Lol
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havanahjoe said:
I've been using a Moto X 2nd Gen. New job has the silly policy of not allowing rooted devices to access our craptastic Lotus Notes e-mail. The G3's KitKat build is unusable without root. Hoping Lollipop is better, otherwise the G3 will be finding a new home.
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You could use RootCloak on Lotus Notes so your work wouldn't be able to detect it.
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You could use RootCloak on Lotus Notes so your work wouldn't be able to detect it.
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I tried. Didn't work. They use Airwatch and I couldn't get anything to fool it on the G3 while rooted.
But now that you pointed me to it again, I searched through the RootCloak thread and apparently there is a version of Airwatch that can be fooled. I'll have to try it and see if I can get it working on my G3. That would be awesome.

havanahjoe said:
I tried. Didn't work. They use Airwatch and I couldn't get anything to fool it on the G3 while rooted.
But now that you pointed me to it again, I searched through the RootCloak thread and apparently there is a version of Airwatch that can be fooled. I'll have to try it and see if I can get it working on my G3. That would be awesome.
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It worked! Now I need a good Lollipop rom. Thank you!!

xlxcrossing said:
Why on earth is T-Mobile just now in the testing phase when every other carrier has had a release. T -mobile is the new Verizon when it comes to updates, very sad. I expected more from the uncarrier.
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The answer is so simple...
There's developmental teams for each region and NOT all of them finish at the same time... The last responses shows how childish some people are. Some devices get finished on other carriers and some don't. T-Mobile isn't always the first and they are not always the last. You can say that with ANY carrier.
If manufacturers really wanted to fix this problem they should take away the carrier options they give them, and then have a single base phone so they only need to code for a single device(iPhone 6, and 6+ as an example they are all exactly the same). Of course device prices would get more expensive then people will complain how expensive they are while blaming the carrier for the prices.

Tidbits said:
The answer is so simple...
There's developmental teams for each region and NOT all of them finish at the same time... The last responses shows how childish some people are. Some devices get finished on other carriers and some don't. T-Mobile isn't always the first and they are not always the last. You can say that with ANY carrier.
If manufacturers really wanted to fix this problem they should take away the carrier options they give them, and then have a single base phone so they only need to code for a single device(iPhone 6, and 6+ as an example they are all exactly the same). Of course device prices would get more expensive then people will complain how expensive they are while blaming the carrier for the prices.
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The fact of the matter being LG had 5.0 in hand early to mid Q4 and many carriers were putting finishing touches on their certification by the end of the year. We are now 2 months in to Q1 and every carriers' update status has surpassed ours. When you say there are different development teams for each region I assume you mean domestically which makes perfect sense but isn't that a nice way of saying "we're not ready yet". I'm not one to usually ***** about updates because it makes things less enjoyable in most cases but I'm a little blown away. When I heard LG G3 was one of the first handsets scheduled to get lollipop I thought for sure T-Mobile would shine once more. I just need to modify my definition of "soon" because in T-Mobile's dictionary the definition is a month or more.

LG G3 dosnt update via LGMobile support Tool

Hello guys I have the LG g3 d 85110r of course the white one but for some reason the LG mobile support tool doesn't update Android 5.0 and there OTA update either any idea guys Thanks
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Hello guys I have the LG g3 d 85110r of course the white one but for some reason the LG mobile support tool doesn't update Android 5.0 and there OTA update either any idea guys Thanks
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This is a BIG mystery and I have combed the various forums around and came to XDA for definitive answers which there appears little. Perhaps because xda is primarily concerned with custom roms, and not incidental stock roms. Personally I thought I would go with the stock rom now, then move to a custom 5.1 rom or later rom when that came out considering how LG seems to be dragging their feet. And to top *that* off it is now April and TMobile has NOT released the update to ALL phones as they have said they would on April 7 on their website.
So what is happening? The various forums are all over the map concerning this. Some are reporting that TMobile representatives are saying that there are problems with the update and that they have *halted* the rollout because of too many problems - and why they were preceding slowly in the first place (I understand that, but I do not understand how it takes three months and not work out all the bugs unless they have just one person working on it part time on the weekends. I'm not a programmer per se and *I* would have been faster). There was one uncomfirmed report of a phone(s) getting too hot.
Clearly the LG G3 page on the TMobile page that says "update available" is incorrect as there is no menu option to do an OTA update in the settings menu, which would indicate that the roll out was halted at some point. So that indicates that there have been problems with the initial update.
Well if that was not bad enough, there is another dreadful post from this forum http://disq.us/8mwajk that has this to say;
O.K. people this is what I was able to find out from T-mobile directly. First the update Lollipop has been release already for the LG G3 (white and black) with some caveats to it.
First the update comes from LG directly instead of Tmobile web servers, tmobile has approve the update and put their flavor on top of the lollipop that LG worked on, but the actual update come from LG servers. So LG is releasing the updates by batches with selected numbers of cell phones at the time ( i am assuming cause they will kill their servers if they do it all at once). Depending of the serial number you have is when you will get the Over The Air update OTA. This can take up to a MONTH yes up to a MONTH for some LG G3 users depending on you serial number, yes its bad cause I am on you same boat I still have not received the update myself so I have to wait for my time (if I am lucky with the lucky serial)or wait up to to a month. Tmobile actually can not do nothing to speed up or put you ahead of the list is the LG that is doing the updates.
Second is that if you really want to have the update to lollipop and you can not just wait any longer cause you will have a heart attack or die for depression. Well you can go to LG site and download a tool for pcs which you can force the update, yes it requires more steps like wiping out your phone and connecting to a PC (not a MAC like myself) but you can have lollipop. Tmobile assure me the LG site lollipop is the same version of lollipop of OTA version so there is nothing to worry about of been a difference version from each site.
Well there it is guys you can either wait, been lucky and get the text to update or go to LG and update it there. Its your choice but pls don't complain about tmobile they are doing their best to help us out if anything it will be LG not tmobile.
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I kind of disagree that this is LG's fault because they have had the update ready for the G3 since January and all the phones in Europe got it near that time. Which places the blame squarely at TMobiles feet. They could have plugged into LG's website last January like what they are appearing to do now. Which begs the question what have they been doing for the past three months exactly?
But really, they have an incentive to delay and drag their feet. Because if you really want the "latest" software, you'll need to buy a new phone with that. And the reason why you will not see 5.1 released anytime soon if at all for the G3. If you see 5.1 on the G4 when it is released and not the G3, that will prove my point outright.
Edit: Another possible reason for the three month delay is that TMobile has turned on VoLTE and added Wi-Fi Calling 2.0. They still could have upgraded to lollipop right away in January then rolled these into a 5.1 update when the bugs were worked out. But this contradicts that the software from both places is the same? I wonder how less of a carbon footprint and wasted energy they could have saved if they would have given everyone better battery life with lollipop back in January?

I cannot update mine as well. I am using the black LG G3 which I won from T Mobile's raffle.
When I try to upgrade it, it just says "No upgrade items to fix" or "No upgrade policy"
I do not know what to do with this. I want to update this badly.

I was told my white one wasn't getting til April 27th

amlaria said:
I was told my white one wasn't getting til April 27th
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This also is what happened with the LG G2. They upgraded white LG G2's after every one else. Which would fit in that they are doing it by "serial number batches." Because that would be only thing different between white and black units.
Unless there is a special magical "white powder" we did not know about! :laugh:

amlaria said:
I was told my white one wasn't getting til April 27th
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Who did you ask?

jailbreakkid23 said:
Who did you ask?
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Tmo tech service. That is when my serial is being updated. I'm sure if you complain enough to raise your support ticket they can push your serial but I'm not in a rush since messing with 5.1 on nexus

amlaria said:
Tmo tech service. That is when my serial is being updated. I'm sure if you complain enough to raise your support ticket they can push your serial but I'm not in a rush since messing with 5.1 on nexus
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Do you have a white one

jailbreakkid23 said:
Do you have a white one
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Yes D851SW

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Yes D851SW
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This is so sad I never thought lg was racist ?

I would like to congratulate everybody on bothering TMobile customer service so much that they were forced to post this to their LG G3 support page;
The LG G3 will be receiving the long awaited 5.0.1 software update in waves. This means that all devices will be getting the update, but not all at once. Because of this, please be patient if you haven't received the update yet! If you just can't wait any longer, there are instructions to manually download the update via PC in the software update document linked in the title.
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Google will be releasing 5.1.1 relatively soon. It will be telling to see how long it takes for TMobile to send that out. I don't see why it could not just be a small "patch" update without updating the whole phone.

nodekeeper said:
I would like to congratulate everybody on bothering TMobile customer service so much that they were forced to post this to their LG G3 support page;
Google will be releasing 5.1.1 relatively soon. It will be telling to see how long it takes for TMobile to send that out. I don't see why it could not just be a small "patch" update without updating the whole phone.
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Can i have a link to that page please

jailbreakkid23 said:
Can i have a link to that page please
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go here: support.t-mobile.com/community/phones-tablets-devices/android/lg-g3/places?filterID=all~objecttype~space
click "show details"

Oct 17 security update has new camera app too

There was a new security update for the Verizon version of the Moto E4 this week. It may have been released across the whole Moto E4 product line.
Besides securing the phone from the Blueborne Bluetooth weakness, the update also updated the camera app.
I was pleasantly surprised with both.
Does anyone know if the camera is performing any better in low light? The camera has been one of the few big weaknesses of this great cheap phone.

My Boost Mobile Moto E4 has received a whopping ZERO updates. It's still sitting on the May security patch... Hopefully we actually receive the update at some point.

ATTACK said:
My Boost Mobile Moto E4 has received a whopping ZERO updates. It's still sitting on the May security patch... Hopefully we actually receive the update at some point.
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Yeah, me too. I was hoping for an update to come before I stary making stock rom zips but I think I might as well stop waiting. They Boost never gets updates very often.

amarc78 said:
Yeah, me too. I was hoping for an update to come before I stary making stock rom zips but I think I might as well stop waiting. They Boost never gets updates very often.
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Waiting and hoping... The story of Android.
The kicker, I have a LG Stylo 2, that was updated to the September security patch a couple of weeks ago, in fact LG has supported that phone consistently throughout the years. Sad to see Motorola, who builds basically a AOSP phone, unable to provide updates in any sort of consistent manner. I like Android, but that's way I switched over to iPhone... Timely Support.

ATTACK said:
I like Android, but that's way I switched over to iPhone...
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Gasp! I'll pretend I didn't see that, lol.
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Gasp! I'll pretend I didn't see that, lol.
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I know right.
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anotherfakeusername said:
the update also updated the camera app.
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How so? Did the camera UI change?
I didn't notice anything different.

ATTACK said:
Waiting and hoping... The story of Android.
The kicker, I have a LG Stylo 2, that was updated to the September security patch a couple of weeks ago, in fact LG has supported that phone consistently throughout the years. Sad to see Motorola, who builds basically a AOSP phone, unable to provide updates in any sort of consistent manner. I like Android, but that's way I switched over to iPhone... Timely Support.
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Spend the same money on an Android that you did on that other thing and bingo, timely updates (well just get a pixel if you can afford it)

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Spend the same money on an Android that you did on that other thing and bingo, timely updates (well just get a pixel if you can afford it)
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There is a huge difference between the two. $800+ on a Pixel and only 2 years of support, spend $800+ on an iPhone and 4+ years of support.
I can't afford to spend large amounts of money every couple of years to play catch up.

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There is a huge difference between the two. $800+ on a Pixel and only 2 years of support, spend $800+ on an iPhone and 4+ years of support.
I can't afford to spend large amounts of money every couple of years to play catch up.
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Pixel 2 gets 3yrs. Then security patches for a couple more. And if you use custom ROMs, then well, my S3 is running 7.1.2 and may get Oreo.

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Pixel 2 gets 3yrs. Then security patches for a couple more.
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Still doesn't compare.
And if you use custom ROMs...
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That's fine for a $50 phone, but I won't spend $800+ on a phone and need to flash custom ROMs to stay up-to-date.

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Still doesn't compare.
That's fine for a $50 phone, but I won't spend $800+ on a phone and need to flash custom ROMs to stay up-to-date.
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Not here to debate Android vs iOS. If that's what you're looking for, ...
You'll find it somewhere. Just saying you were comparing this phone to big A's pride and joy. Not fair. Enough OT. Moving on.
P.S. I come TO flash ROMs, it's XDA.

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Not here to debate Android vs iOS. If that's what you're looking for, ...
You'll find it somewhere. Just saying you were comparing this phone to big A's pride and joy. Not fair. Enough OT. Moving on.
P.S. I come TO flash ROMs, it's XDA.
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You should go back and re-read your comments, as that's exactly what you were looking for. If you didn't want to have a debate, you shouldn't have commented on a post that wasn't directed at you.

Yeah, but you get very limited configuration options with that other device.

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Yeah, but you get very limited configuration options with that other device.
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Absolutely! IOS is quite bland, that's why I still buy Android devices to play with. But security and longevity is most important to me.

Security?? Everything that's on ANY Apple product they have a copy of on their servers.

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Security?? Everything that's on ANY Apple product they have a copy of on their servers.
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LOL, ok...

Still a great buy today June 2020?

Hello, I am wanting to buy a smartphone that is as complete as possible in all aspects and this LG G8s is a great option that I am seeing.
One of my doubts is the Software, in many reviews they kill it for it, is it so bad?
Do you still recommend it or would you buy another one at the same price today ($ 400)? The only two that call my attention against the G8s are the Huawei P30 and Xiaomi Mi note 10.

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Hello, I am wanting to buy a smartphone that is as complete as possible in all aspects and this LG G8s is a great option that I am seeing.
One of my doubts is the Software, in many reviews they kill it for it, is it so bad?
Do you still recommend it or would you buy another one at the same price today ($ 400)? The only two that call my attention against the G8s are the Huawei P30 and Xiaomi Mi note 10.
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$400? I would buy a g8 off eBay for around $300 (make sure to not get an at&t one or Verizon)

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$400? I would buy a g8 off eBay for around $300 (make sure to not get an at&t one or Verizon)
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The price is the only one I get in Argentina, I can't buy on eBay.

If you don't care about updates, the software works out of the box. You do not have to restrict, disable, deactivate applications. Everything is working properly.

The ONLY thing this phone has going for IMO is the price. I got an ATT version for $230 and don't feel ripped off at all. If I paid $400 for it? Yeah I'd probably feel ripped off.

Hi, how are you? I tell you my experience, I have had the LG G8s ThinQ for three months and for now no problem, except as they said above, the topic of the updates because it has not yet been updated to Android 10 being high-end of 2019. But someday it will arrive for sure . Beyond that, excellent equipment, supports any application and game without problems or lags. Great screen, perfect audio, beautiful design. I am quite satisfied except for the updates because I really like modifying the system (modding). I bought it in Argentina together with your LG W7 watch.

I got a Verizon G8, it's been updated and everything to Android 10, has desktop mode, beautiful screen, great cameras, it's fast, battery life is good. The LG G8 is very under rated.
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The ONLY thing this phone has going for IMO is the price. I got an ATT version for $230 and don't feel ripped off at all. If I paid $400 for it? Yeah I'd probably feel ripped off.
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It has a lot more than that going for it. Top of the line specs, ip68, wireless charging, SD card, the last flagship with a headphone jack and a duel dack for fantastic sound. 2k screen, what more you want from a phone?

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I got a Verizon G8, it's been updated and everything to Android 10, has desktop mode, beautiful screen, great cameras, it's fast, battery life is good. The LG G8 is very under rated.
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It has a lot more than that going for it. Top of the line specs, ip68, wireless charging, SD card, the last flagship with a headphone jack and a duel dack for fantastic sound. 2k screen, what more you want from a phone?
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I just want a smooth experience. You're right, wireless charging and water proof are a nice feature that I've used but my essential phone was way faster than this phone. So many hitches and slow transitions with the software. Ok Google detection going in and out. Camera being so slow to load often making me miss what I was trying to take a picture of. The list just goes on and on. The software just sucks

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I just want a smooth experience. You're right, wireless charging and water proof are a nice feature that I've used but my essential phone was way faster than this phone. So many hitches and slow transitions with the software. Ok Google detection going in and out. Camera being so slow to load often making me miss what I was trying to take a picture of. The list just goes on and on. The software just sucks
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Then use a gsi

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Then use a gsi
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Not an option with my device (ATT LG G8)

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Not an option with my device (ATT LG G8)
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Are you on android 10?

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Are you on android 10?
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Yes i am

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Yes i am
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How is it not an option then? If you have an exploitable firmware version

I have a G8 through Xfinity and I think it's pretty great. I have always had phones that could be rooted and ROM'd, but I don't really miss it. The quad dac is awesome, it's fast, every game I've tried works great, and I get updates all the time. I just got one today. G820QM520i. June security update. I think even at $400 this phone isn't a bad value, especially depending on where you live.

spizzlo said:
I have a G8 through Xfinity and I think it's pretty great. I have always had phones that could be rooted and ROM'd, but I don't really miss it. The quad dac is awesome, it's fast, every game I've tried works great, and I get updates all the time. I just got one today. G820QM520i. June security update. I think even at $400 this phone isn't a bad value, especially depending on where you live.
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You can root though. But since you've done all the updates (I'm assuming the one today was may or June patch), you can only do it if you had a kdz available for your model. But I'm pretty sure all the qm ones do, so go for root if you'd like

antintin said:
How is it not an option then? If you have an exploitable firmware version
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I have an exploitable Android 10 firmware but all I can get is temp root. Afaik only sprint ones can bootloader unlock.

runderekrun said:
I have an exploitable Android 10 firmware but all I can get is temp root. Afaik only sprint ones can bootloader unlock.
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No all of them can. I'll publish the files everyone needs as soon as I manage to get them all

antintin said:
No all of them can. I'll publish the files everyone needs as soon as I manage to get them all
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Legend if so.

runderekrun said:
Legend if so.
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I was planning on doing it yesterday, but I've been a bit busy switching from windows to Linux. I'll do it asap tomorrow