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Note 4 will skip 5.0.0 and got to 5.0.1

According to Sammobile and Phone Arena, Samsung is going to skip the 5.0.0 update and jump straight to 5.0.1. I'm wondering if this will cause a delay in us getting Lollipop? Here's the story if you want to take a look: http://www.sammobile.com/2014/12/17...droid-v5-0-1-builds-leak-both-to-skip-v5-0-0/

I doubt it will impact the delivery time very much

XavierD8188 said:
According to Sammobile and Phone Arena, Samsung is going to skip the 5.0.0 update and jump straight to 5.0.1. I'm wondering if this will cause a delay in us getting Lollipop? Here's the story if you want to take a look: http://www.sammobile.com/2014/12/17...droid-v5-0-1-builds-leak-both-to-skip-v5-0-0/
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No its because 5.0.0 had battery and other issued

Then 5.1 is due in February to repair all the faults in 5.0.1....Honestly, this phone hardware is too good to be crippled by poor software. I don't mind waiting longer for a better experience.

ExtremeRyno said:
Then 5.1 is due in February to repair all the faults in 5.1....Honestly, this phone hardware is too good to be crippled by poor software. I don't mind waiting longer for a better experience.
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Agree +1, I rather wait till it's completely Stable 5.1 so i said to google take your time no hurry the phone with last update from Samsung is running Awesome so i can wait! :good:

I'm waiting for 6.0 Snickers
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Next one will probably be milky way.

ExtremeRyno said:
Then 5.1 is due in February to repair all the faults in 5.0.1....Honestly, this phone hardware is too good to be crippled by poor software. I don't mind waiting longer for a better experience.
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The article states the Note 4 is skipping 5.0.0 and going to 5.0.1, NOT 5.1....
If we have to wait for 5.1 then that will seriously push the timeline back as the carriers will have to wait for 5.1 in late February and then begin their testing and modifications...
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harlenm said:
Next one will probably be milky way.
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or Moon Pie...

ReggieSmith said:
or Moon Pie...
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This is what I'm putting my money on...

ReggieSmith said:
The article states the Note 4 is skipping 5.0.0 and going to 5.0.1, NOT 5.1......
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I'm aware of that. Just stating a fact, friend. Plus, my opinion remains that I'd be cool with waiting for 5.1 as Google has already found fixes for many of the faults in the as yet not available 5.0.1. Waiting till Summer = not a big deal to me.

Kyuta Syuko said:
This is what I'm putting my money on...
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Monkey bread. Meringue. Mousse. Milkshake. Macaroon. Muffin. Marshmallow.

Android 6.0 Snicker doodle. That's my vote.

ChefAnt said:
Monkey bread. Meringue. Mousse. Milkshake. Macaroon. Muffin. Marshmallow.
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Hmmm good point maybe I should put my money on Marshmallow...

Ummm...M&M, duh!!

I would rather stay on 4.4.4 in hopes of someone getting root

To be honest, they probably had issues with Lollipop on the Note 4, therefor had to update it. I've seen this a lot with companies getting to far ahead of themselves. Let's just hope Samsung makes the proper choice before the carriers f*** it up even more.

Simsron1 said:
To be honest, they probably had issues with Lollipop on the Note 4, therefor had to update it. I've seen this a lot with companies getting to far ahead of themselves. Let's just hope Samsung makes the proper choice before the carriers f*** it up even more.
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Not sure where the "they had problems" wild guess comes from...
However, 5.0.2 is now available. Seems like Google is addressing any 5.0 issues reasonably quick. I have to imagine that the port from 5.0 development to 5.0.2 is not too hard. Intigrating the samsung code over whatever version of android is out at the time is more than likely the way it will roll. At this point it could even be 5.0.3 or .4

Nougat update for Motorola Droid Turbo 2 receives Bluetooth SIG certification

Looks like some good news may really be coming (Nougat)...
http://www.gsmarena.com/nougat_upda...es_bluetooth_sig_certification-news-22523.php
Looks like the Motorola Droid Turbo 2 will soon get Nougat as the Android 7.0 update for the handset (model number XT1585) has been certified by the Bluetooth Special Interest Group (SIG).

Now we will finally get root! Hehe

my2cents said:
Now we will finally get root! Hehe
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wh

I've come to terms with the likelihood that this phone will never see root. And if it does, there will be little to no development for custom roms or other goodies. I am to the point where I think the glory days of rooting and having cool software hacks that actually improve the phones are behind us. Now my opinion could be, because my last three phones have been locked down on Verizon, and my Razr M once unlocked never had great builds. The builds it did have had issues due to bootloader changes and my lack of willingness to downgrade the bootloader once other changes were made. As I recall. Still excited to see Nougat coming at least.

romma1 said:
I've come to terms with the likelihood that this phone will never see root. And if it does, there will be little to no development for custom roms or other goodies. I am to the point where I think the glory days of rooting and having cool software hacks that actually improve the phones are behind us. Now my opinion could be, because my last three phones have been locked down on Verizon, and my Razr M once unlocked never had great builds. The builds it did have had issues due to bootloader changes and my lack of willingness to downgrade the bootloader once other changes were made. As I recall. Still excited to see Nougat coming at least.
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Well since Verizon just got rid of 2 year contracts for everyone so no subsidized phones I won't buy another carrier phone. My wife has the pixel xl and loves it. I will be going Google not so much for the unlocked bootloader more for immediate updates. Screw carrier and manufacturer taking forever to update or decide not to update (Droid Maxx 5.1 I'm looking at you).

bigv5150 said:
Well since Verizon just got rid of 2 year contracts for everyone so no subsidized phones I won't buy another carrier phone. My wife has the pixel xl and loves it. I will be going Google not so much for the unlocked bootloader more for immediate updates. Screw carrier and manufacturer taking forever to update or decide not to update (Droid Maxx 5.1 I'm looking at you).
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Yup. Every single phone I have had has been in the Droid Line (HTC Included). No more!! Not after this phone runs dry.

Is this Bogus?
This has to be bogus, right? Why don't I see this thread on XDA?
http://www.android-nougat.tech/2016/11/motorola-droid-turbo-2-7713.html

my2cents said:
This has to be bogus, right? Why don't I see this thread on XDA?
http://www.android-nougat.tech/2016/11/motorola-droid-turbo-2-7713.html
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yeah that's a fake website, you can easily tell because none of the other links works (Home, contact us, etc..)

https://twitter.com/Moto_GER/status/826802898512314368

xQrzy said:
https://twitter.com/Moto_GER/status/826802898512314368
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For F*** sake.
Delayed until May?
Seriously?
Since Lenovo bought moto it's just going downhill.
Top range phone for £500 and need to wait 6 months for update. This is a joke.

TeddyBeers said:
For F*** sake.
Delayed until May?
Seriously?
Since Lenovo bought moto it's just going downhill.
Top range phone for £500 and need to wait 6 months for update. This is a joke.
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Do You think we will get 7.1.1? LOL, so it is 9 months. This is my first and last Moto.

Xetmes said:
Do You think we will get 7.1.1? LOL, so it is 9 months. This is my first and last Moto.
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Yeah.
Q4 2018

romma1 said:
Looks like some good news may really be coming (Nougat)...
http://www.gsmarena.com/nougat_upda...es_bluetooth_sig_certification-news-22523.php
Looks like the Motorola Droid Turbo 2 will soon get Nougat as the Android 7.0 update for the handset (model number XT1585) has been certified by the Bluetooth Special Interest Group (SIG).
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How does the Bluetooth SIG certification affect my phone?
I use Bluetooth with my truck and some earbuds...... I don't see where I would see extra functionality.

Does not affect your phone. It's just a way how info about update leaks. Every phone/update needs to pass certification before is released.
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March Security Patch

INTRODUCTION
Motorola is excited to announce a new software update for moto g5 plus by Motorola. This update brings important security improvements to your phone.
For more information on Motorola updates and repairs, visit us at www.motorola.com/mymotog.
NOTE: All information on your phone will be saved. You cannot downgrade to a previous software version after installing this update.
ENHANCEMENTS
This update introduces changes including the following:
Android security: Includes the updates of Android security patches through March 1st, 2018.
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Source: https://mobilesupport.lenovo.com/us/en/Solution/MS126800
I have yet to receive it here on retbr. Will keep updated if I see anything show up.

I'm guessing somewhere after the second week of April

psychopac said:
I'm guessing somewhere after the second week of April
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Considering how Lenovorola was sending out a Feb patch in the same month to the G5S+, I'm betting on this coming out mid to end of March and rolling out in about twelve days to all regions (based on the Jan update rollout)

Rocketfin said:
Considering how Lenovorola was sending out a Feb patch in the same month to the G5S+, I'm betting on this coming out mid to end of March and rolling out in about twelve days to all regions (based on the Jan update rollout)
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Nice. But it would be much nicer if they would roll out Oreo. I was hoping they would do that in combination with the march security patch. But it seems we'll have to wait some more time.
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Wolfcity said:
Nice. But it would be much nicer if they would roll out Oreo. I was hoping they would do that in combination with the march security patch. But it seems we'll have to wait some more time.
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Honestly, I don't see what the big fuss is about Oreo. We have it already by way of custom ROMs, and it's stable enough for daily use at this point. The only issue I've seen is that certain camera functions don't work properly without the proprietary firmware, so if you want to adjust ISO or shutter speed you have to use a stock rom. That's exactly what I'm doing, btw, and I have yet to see anything 8.1 has that makes it functionally Superior to 7.0 and aside from security patches, I'm unlikely to change anything about my rom because Oreo just doesn't "wow" me.

agentfusion said:
Honestly, I don't see what the big fuss is about Oreo. We have it already by way of custom ROMs, and it's stable enough for daily use at this point. The only issue I've seen is that certain camera functions don't work properly without the proprietary firmware, so if you want to adjust ISO or shutter speed you have to use a stock rom. That's exactly what I'm doing, btw, and I have yet to see anything 8.1 has that makes it functionally Superior to 7.0 and aside from security patches, I'm unlikely to change anything about my rom because Oreo just doesn't "wow" me.
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I am of your opinion that there is no big "wow" about Oreo. But it's an update Lenovo/Motorola promised to their users and under these circumstances something one has paid for.
About custom roms: I'm a big fan of custom roms and use them on my other devices. But as there is no Oreo source for the Moto G5+ imo there are still several problems with AOSP or Lineage based roms like users losing volte, IMEI or even mobile data when returning to stock after being on 8.1 custom roms and also the roms I've tested lack of stability and features beside the mentioned camera issues.No daily driver material for me.
That would not happen if the kernel sources of stock Oreo for potter would be available and as we all know this will only happen when our devices will be upgraded. The Moto G5+ stock rom is really good in terms of battery and performance and I'm very satisfied with the rooted 7.0 stock but I won't unroot and flash stock everytime just to get a security patch. Don't get me wrong, security patches are good and important but for me it's not worth the effort against the background that a major update is about to come in foreseeable time.
And that's the point why I'm waiting for Oreo for the Moto G5+. For stable custom roms and a good reason to unroot and reflash my device.
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agentfusion said:
Honestly, I don't see what the big fuss is about Oreo..
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A promise they made.
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We have it already by way of custom ROMs, and it's stable "enough" for daily use at this point.
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Stable enough although not ideal. There are always a couple hacks and other shenanigans that may not deliver the complete experience. Either missing blobs or proprietary functions that some people need it.
Warranty. I did unlock my bootloader within 3 months. My G5 Plus started to act stupid, the power and volume buttons would get stuck and not press down anymore. This is not my fault. I'm no *insert stereotype here* to handle my phone as if it is some piece of brick.
Result: I bought another one, extra 800BRL.
Also, not everyone has the knowledge to flash ROMs, as easy as it may be. Some people **** up the most simple stuff, such as downloading the right zip for the right device.
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The only issue I've seen is that certain camera functions don't work properly without the proprietary firmware, so if you want to adjust ISO or shutter speed you have to use a stock ROM.
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There you go. Another reason which I mentioned earlier.
agentfusion said:
I have yet to see anything 8.0/8.1 has that makes it functionally Superior to 7.0 and aside from security patches, I'm unlikely to change anything about my rom because Oreo just doesn't "wow" me
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Well there is PIP (Picture-in-Picture) there may be a lot of people that would actually love to have this feature.
There is a new interface, some people like looking at something different. Blame them
I think they improved the File Manager.
More precise notification settings. (Notification Channels)
Unknown Source APK settings revamped. (Now you don't need to go back to that APK file because the system won't dismiss everything.) [And you can choose only your file manager in case your browser gets attacked and the attacker finds a way to install APKs from it, security+)
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Oreo just doesn't "wow" me
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It should "wow" the fact that Motorola promised something as a company and did not deliver.
Would you trust them again? Do you believe they are caring enough about you as customer, or do you think they see you more as money than other OEMs?
I'm out won't due that stuck button problem I had and the delayed updates.
Pls this is not a personal attack

BlackScout said:
it should "wow" the fact that Motorola promised something as a company and did not deliver.
Would you trust them again? Do you believe they are caring enough about you as customer, or do you think they see you more as money than other OEMs?
I'm out won't due that stuck button problem I had and the delayed updates.
Pls this is not a personal attack
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Companies lie. It's a universal constant. LG lied when they said all LG G4 devices after a certain serial number were free of the bootloop solder defect. Lie. They said it wouldn't happen in future devices. Lie. HTC lied about certain phones getting Gorilla Glass... They all lie. Motorola/Lenovo didn't give an exact date, they just said it would happen for a specific list of devices. They've reiterated the list, and then started a rollout in AUS/NZ for the X4 which is on that list, so now they can say they kept their promise because they started the rollout on one of the listed devices. They're going to say the delays are because they can't, logistically, rollout to all of them simultaneously. They've still come closer to keeping the promise than any other OEM, but they're all liars about something.
And I never take anything as a personal attack unless someone says something personal about *me* in an insulting way, so we're good. You're just sharing your opinion, same as I did. There's no harm in that.

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. They've reiterated the list, and then started a rollout in AUS/NZ for the X4 which is on that list, so now they can say they kept their promise because they started the rollout on one of the listed devices. They're going to say the delays are because they can't, logistically, rollout to all of them simultaneously. They've still come closer to keeping the promise than any other OEM, but they're all liars about something.
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To be fair they have already rolled out Oreo to the X4 and X4 Android One Edition as well as the z² force while currently having soak tests for the z² play, z play and z

Screen?

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I don't even...
There is no screen. It's unreleased. You don't need proof, it's Lenovo/Motorola Support website.

Any idea what Will it include apart from security patch.
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To be fair they have already rolled out Oreo to the X4 and X4 Android One Edition as well as the z² force while currently having soak tests for the z² play, z play and z
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Nice! I didn't know they had gotten further than the X4. IMO, that's really good news for anyone with a device on the list of devices they've promised will get Oreo.

BlackScout said:
Source: https://mobilesupport.lenovo.com/us/en/Solution/MS126800
I have yet to receive it here on retbr. Will keep updated if I see anything show up.
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Still waiting for it on Moto G5 plus reteu no brand.
Thank you for sharing.
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There is a way to manually download security patch from motorola website?

devvshukla said:
Am I the only one who don't want Moto to release orio for this device? I was also waiting for Oreo but after updating on one of my devices I found the new UI awkward specially the status bar and quick tyles (they all are either white or pure black). Also I am not going to unlock this as official LaOS is not available.
Anyone has any idea if official builds will ever be possible for Potter or not?
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I love the white UI from oreo.
Don't worry, you can stop updates on the device.. but you won't receive security patches in nougat after oreo.

devvshukla said:
Am I the only one who don't want Moto to release orio for this device?
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An official Oreo release helps with custom Oreo ROM stabliity.
Unofficial LineageOS 14.1 is stable enough for daily use. I've been running it the past week weeks without GAPPs just fine.

devvshukla said:
Am I the only one who don't want Moto to release orio for this device? I was also waiting for Oreo but after updating on one of my devices I found the new UI awkward specially the status bar and quick tyles (they all are either white or pure black). Also I am not going to unlock this as official LaOS is not available.
Anyone has any idea if official builds will ever be possible for Potter or not?
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You are OT. We are talking about March security update not about how pretty is the oreo UI.
Afte rall you can choose to not update to oreo, use a lineage of Nougat. Many choices for android users, you have nothing to worry about.

I've only got the January security patch on my G5 Plus last Wednesday. You guys are already getting the March patch?

Mrkblo said:
I've only got the January security patch on my G5 Plus last Wednesday. You guys are already getting the March patch?
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Depends on where you live, if your have a retail or a carrier locked phone. These OTA's always roll out in stages. There are users recieving the Nov security patch these days.
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Got it on retus.

[T-Mobile Variant] I guess were getting a security patch update every 2 months?

Just updated my phone at work for a security patch and went from September to November that's cool I guess, I was kinda hoping for December but I guess we will skip December get January's in February

I personally don't understand all the hoopla over a security patch.. No offense, but I never had any phone of mine compromised, even if I did not have the latest patch.. I always look forward to the new Android OS or other updates that actually make improvements to the phone.. My phone go the Nov updated 2 weeks ago.. I never did understand why they wait to actually get these things out.. If it is so critical, they need to push it out when it actually comes out.

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I personally don't understand all the hoopla over a security patch.. No offense, but I never had any phone of mine compromised, even if I did not have the latest patch.. I always look forward to the new Android OS or other updates that actually make improvements to the phone.. My phone go the Nov updated 2 weeks ago.. I never did understand why they wait to actually get these things out.. If it is so critical, they need to push it out when it actually comes out.
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It's just peace of mind and they supposedly opened a new facility specific to updates, and also they are behind other companies, it's just them dropping the ball

Joe199799 said:
It's just peace of mind and they supposedly opened a new facility specific to updates, and also they are behind other companies, it's just them dropping the ball
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I remember when I bought my Moto Z2 Force. Then first time I booted it up, I got 4 updates one right after the other April-August.. If these companies want to retain customers, then yes, they need to step up the game a bit...

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I remember when I bought my Moto Z2 Force. Then first time I booted it up, I got 4 updates one right after the other April-August.. If these companies want to retain customers, then yes, they need to step up the game a bit...
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I'm back on my Z2 and have already had an update. LG really does need to step it up.

20degrees said:
I'm back on my Z2 and have already had an update. LG really does need to step it up.
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I agree 100 percent. I personally do not plan on updating my phone, again, unless it is necessary, or pie drops.

T-Mobile says Android 10 for the N10+ is already in testing phase

https://www.droid-life.com/2019/09/04/android-10-t-mobile-galaxy-note-10-galaxy-s10/

This sounds to good to be true.

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This sounds to good to be true.
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That's what I thought too. Testing phase is generally pretty close to release. But we usually get a beta program first, so who knows.

Wow! If it's released in 2019, I'll be amazed.

I don't think it's to good to be true last i recall google did a new program to work with other phone manufacturer to get the latest update out faster.

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I don't think it's to good to be true last i recall google did a new program to work with other phone manufacturer to get the latest update out faster.
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That was in effect on the Note9 too (Project Treble?). Which, admittedly, the Note9 got Pie faster than the Note8 got Oreo (about two months sooner) but it was still February of the following year (after release). This seems much quicker!

If Samsung pushes out the latest software just weeks or a couple months after Google releases it, I'll be in utter shock. I confirmed it says its in testing on Tmobile site. I'm cautiously excited!

I don't doubt that it's in the testing phase. But that doesn't mean much - products can be in testing for a very long time. We can infer from this that we will (probably) get Android 10. That isn't a surprise. But we can't infer when that will happen.

I would not be so enthusiast about android 10, I read an article here in XDA about how convoluted the file management is

They'll be testing until next year, dont hold you're breathe

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I would not be so enthusiast about android 10, I read an article here in XDA about how convoluted the file management is
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Oh really? What is so weird about it? Do you recall?

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Oh really? What is so weird about it? Do you recall?
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I was wondering that too. This talks about it.
https://www.xda-developers.com/android-q-storage-access-framework-scoped-storage/

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I was wondering that too. This talks about it.
https://www.xda-developers.com/android-q-storage-access-framework-scoped-storage/
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Yes, that is the article, suposedly to increase security, but I see it more troublesome than helpful

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I don't doubt that it's in the testing phase. But that doesn't mean much - products can be in testing for a very long time. We can infer from this that we will (probably) get Android 10. That isn't a surprise. But we can't infer when that will happen.
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They'll be testing until next year, dont hold you're breathe
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While testing products can last a very long time, typically when carriers state the next OS update is in the testing phase, that means they are fairly close to release. It means they have the final version and are making sure it works on their network prior to release.

winol said:
Yes, that is the article, suposedly to increase security, but I see it more troublesome than helpful
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That is interesting. I'll have to see how it works IRL, but it sounds cumbersome.
I'm not so much excited about the update to Q itself, as I am the anticipation and leaks leading up to it. Honestly the leaked video of Q didn't really show anything groundbreaking, which is fine. Pie works great on this phone.

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While testing products can last a very long time, typically when carriers state the next OS update is in the testing phase, that means they are fairly close to release. It means they have the final version and are making sure it works on their network prior to release.
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^This! I had Tmobile branded phones from the Galaxy S until my Note 10+. The longest I've waited once it went to testing was 6 weeks. Least was 2 weeks.
While I'm skeptical, I believe this isn't fake and maybe it's the next step for Samsung phones. Fingers crossed! (Go Project Treble?!?! )

Available a month after everyone is using the S11.

Once I receive my note10+, first thing I will do is block updates, just in case android 10 has some serious bugs or battery hogging issues, or anything I dont like, after evaluating o confirmation that android 10 indeed is a worthy update, i would update

https://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-40892

winol said:
Once I receive my note10+, first thing I will do is block updates, just in case android 10 has some serious bugs or battery hogging issues, or anything I dont like, after evaluating o confirmation that android 10 indeed is a worthy update, i would update
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How would you do that on a locked 10+??