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I had a brief look in the ROMs area, and it didn't seem that the MiMax has any currently released nougat ROMS. Will they be coming? What is the holdup-- they are not supplying source code, or...?
Curious, because I am thinking of buying one.
Anyone know of other comparably ludicrously large phones? I'm interested in devices over six inches....
Should I buy this phone? Why or why not?
definitly yes! You should buy it! Coming from Sony Xperia Z Ultra, I've got mine one month ago and I am very happy about this phone. Until now I can't see any cons. I use it of course as a phone but also as a computer. Net surfing, news, video, music, etc.. The battery is awesome in my opinion, usually last more than 2 days and charge quite fast.
I don't know about nougat but I don't care right now.
I ordered a Honor Note 8, a little bigger(6,6") and I will compare. After my Z Ultra, I can't use a phone less than this size.
If you like these big screens too, go ahead.
I'd say definitely yes. Especially at this price its a steal. It doesn't feel ridiculously large in your hand even if you have small hands though I've large hands. Its great as a phablet but as a tablet tiny yet comfortable enough to be used like a phone. I'd say Mi has hit the perfect sweet spot with this size. The only downside I've felt is trying to swype-type with my left hand on a traffic light, for this its not very easy on this phone. Anybody with small hands you've to use 2 hands to type. Atleast for this sake, I really wish keymonk was still developed(only keyboard on which you can swype with both fingers ). Finding tempered glasses & a holster pouch was a chore though. For a phone this size you definitely need those. But there are very few phones @ these sizes & with the kind of community support like Xiaomi. Moto, Huawei & Leeco come to mind. But moto & huawei provides slightly under-powered hardware & Leeco provides great specs but their own stock firmware is underwhelming not to mention the smaller & slower community support & response than Xioami. Right now Xiaomi seems to be riding high on all these.
P.S. - The only other phone which would be better is the Mi Mix @ 6.4". that too only because of the higher resolution & bevel-less design, but is in different price band though. Even though this phone, the Mi Max, has great SOT, I was wishing & hoping we get a similar phone but with SD 82x processor, Which Mi answered quickly with the Mix. So now I find myself wanting the Mi Mix with the SD835. And the fickleness goes on & on...
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I had a brief look in the ROMs area, and it didn't seem that the MiMax has any currently released nougat ROMS. Will they be coming? What is the holdup-- they are not supplying source code, or...?
Curious, because I am thinking of buying one.
Anyone know of other comparably ludicrously large phones? I'm interested in devices over six inches....
Should I buy this phone? Why or why not?
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Nougat is in development, beta version is already there and tested.
Need to buy exactly, since similar devices in the same price present.
Hi I had a Zuk Z2 and it was a good phone, in fact, the best phone value out there but unfortunately it has gone and im using a old Xiaomi Redmi 2.
I was looking to buy a new phone and found a interested sale promotion on Mi5S (3GB/64GB) Gearbest, it is 217.00EU which i consider cheaper for this model.
In other hand, i dont like MIUI ROM, its outdated take too much Ram and have bad battery life also i didnt see a lot of life on development tabs which brings to me a question.
Take all of this in consideration, would you recommend to buy it?
I personally love the device, so, yes for me.
Coming from Galaxy Note 4 and Redmi Note 3, this phone is a huge upgrade (aside the screen that is downgrade from Note 4).
And though many (bad things) has been said about the FP, I love the FP sensor as well as it can detect even when my fingers are wet / slightly moist (I live in tropical country) unlike Redmi Note 3 which will require me to wipe my fingers dry first.
MIUI is not bad, especially if you use Xiaomi EU rom for example. The features are massive and most of them offers quality of life improvement. To each their own of course however.
With something like the Nova Launcher, I like the Mi5S, though audio quality through the 3,5" isn't the best and multitasking is limited to a handful of apps. But speed and build quality are very good. Also the battery life is quite good with the latest firmware and you have an incredible quick fastcharge function on it. Or you can wait until the FP works good on LineageOS, but I can't really tell how long that will take.
You can also consider the likes of Motorola (good software, but average battery life) and maybe something from LeEco with LineageOS installed on it. You can also find midrange Sony phones for a reasonable price nowadays, for instance the Xperia X Compact (low res screen, but good phone nonetheless). Also Honor makes good phones. The UMI Z is also worth the look with recent prices, although I don't know about battery life.
If battery life is the most important thing, than buy the Xiaomi Redmi 4 Pro. You get a solid week of usage per charge and the build quality is superb in the price class. Also, the Snapdragon 625 is more than fast enough for everything but gaming. Plus it's just over a 100 dollars when discounted.
/EDIT: The LG G5 is heavily discounted in the US at the moment: http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/06/21/deal-alert-get-unlocked-lg-g5-259-newegg/
Coming from the redmi 2 wt88047, I find that the MI5s is much better but battery life is not that much better. Everything is an improvement compared to the redmi 2 but the battery life is pretty much the same.
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/EDIT: The LG G5 is heavily discounted in the US at the moment: http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/06/21/deal-alert-get-unlocked-lg-g5-259-newegg/
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LG G5 have random reboots, and it can appear after your purchase. Phones on SD625 are really useless today ( if you want a phone for 2-3 years ). Sony is very expensive for their quality and software support. Mediatek phones are very hot.
My mom has a Redmi 4 Pro and it's very fast, way more than the 617 my girlfriends phone has. So I really don't see a problem with this chipset.
But I don't know about the G5 though. Is it really still the case after all the patches? Would be idiotic, but I have seen worst in the phone industry.
I'm very happy with this phone. I'm a very casual user, no modding, nothing. All that I need works very nice, running latest official global rom.
Thanks to all, I made my choice, I choose OnePlus 5 ???.
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How I don't have enough money I bought a Mi5s (3Gb/64gb) from gear best hope I'll be very happy with this phone ?
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I am in the process of either buying a P20, or an S9. This is a 35 vs 40 euro per month question (10 total as I need two phones) and since it is 2 years contract I am very interested in the reliability part of the phone, hardware, and software wise.
I am interested in using the phone mainly for communication calls/whatsapp, but also very important for taking pictures and recording videos. No gaming for me.
Reviews, in general, are very good about the P20, but reviews are short-lived usage experiences, and my only experience with Huawei (a Hero 6X), has not been very good: slow to update, the phone freezes from time to time (it is obviously not a flagship, I know), so I was wondering, now that you have (hopefully) used the phone for a while, will you get a P20 or an S9 if you had the chance?
As a former user of the S7 Edge, I tend to think the Samsung is a more reliable phone, but I wanted to hear from real users here.
Thank you.
Without headphones from bose i would definitely choose s9.
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Without headphones from bose i would definitely choose s9.
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Thanks, but I don't understand your answer. If you had bose headphones you will choose the P20? why?
I have choosen p20 because of bose headphones. This phone with star price 599£ is bot worth it. No amoled, no stereo speakers, no water resistant, bad selfie camera, plastic frame around screen and back glass, pure emui experience ( you cant scan gift cards with android pay f.ex), now huawei is locking bootloader pernamently so you will be not able to mode your phone in the future.
Go with samsung s9 or lg g7 or p20 pro. P20 is worth 550$ imo
S9 price is a joke, too much money for too little improvement compared to S8, for the price of S9 you can get P20 & Moto G6 plus
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S9 price is a joke, too much money for too little improvement compared to S8, for the price of S9 you can get P20 & Moto G6 plus
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Thanks, like I said here the option is the P20, for 35 euro, or 840 euro per 24 months, including service, or 40 euro for the S9, or 960 euro per 24 months, so the difference between the P20 vs the S9 us only 120 euros.
I like the P20 in papers, but I am not so sure about the reliability of it. That is my main concern with it.
Hi,
I have a friend who bought the S9, I on the other hand bought the P20.
I can tell you that the S9 is a little bit powerfull than the P20, other than that it does not impress me in any other way ( except the price tag ).
Take S9. P20 Community is dying before it was coming Up, since Huawei will stop provide bootloader unlock possibility soon.
Or take a look at the Sony XZ2 compact or Honor 10. The Honor 10 is very similar but cheaper, the XZ2 Compact costs about the same and is much faster and has better battery life than both the P20 and S9.
From a reliability standpoint, the Huawei charger heats up the phone a lot, shortening the lifespan of the battery considerably. I wish they used the same kind of fast charging as oneplus.
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Take S9. P20 Community is dying before it was coming Up, since Huawei will stop provide bootloader unlock possibility soon.
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Thanks.
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Or take a look at the Sony XZ2 compact or Honor 10. The Honor 10 is very similar but cheaper, the XZ2 Compact costs about the same and is much faster and has better battery life than both the P20 and S9.
From a reliability standpoint, the Huawei charger heats up the phone a lot, shortening the lifespan of the battery considerably. I wish they used the same kind of fast charging as oneplus.
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The XZ2 is more expensive here than the P20, S9, S9+, and almost as expensive as the P20 Pro.
Interesting options are: P20 $35, S9 $40, Mate 10 $42, S9+ $45, P20 Pro $50, Note 8 $50, XZ2 Compact $50
I think I'll go with the s9 or s9+
Go with the S9 for Headphone jack, amoled screen, better camera and micro sd slot.
S9 has better dev support also unlike the P20.
Dont bother with s9... Samsung software is rubbish, had s9 plus for a month.. took em 2 months just to solve calls issue.. absolutely a joke.. so for the first time in long time i jumped the ship and moved to pixel... And absolutely bo regrets.. amazing phones in software wise.. and camera etc.. please mind i am not here to push u towards pixie, but from personal experience over the years, finally realized how bad sammy software is.. and they still sucks on updates, anyway if u wait a day or two i can tell u how p20 is.. ordered one for my missus and should be here today, contact was 300 quid cheaper over two years compared to likes of s9, but honestly i would still pick pixel 2 xl here if u lookin at phone that's supported for the next two,three years with updates,
Personally I went with the P20 because I like the overall design better and the pricing for me was lower. P20 is a good phone but Huawei itslef is being retarded. I don't recommend P20 just because of how Huawei treats us.
On the other hand I love the back camera and overall performance. It's a good phone and should last quite a while, but too bad it's in Huaweis hands.
Never had a Samsung so can't tell, fanboys can be hard on both sides but seems like the s9 will suit you better.
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The question here is whether the phone is reliable, from that point of view the answer is a resounding yes. It is a brilliant phone that has not let me down since I got the phone 2 months ago. Everything just works and works very well. If you are looking into unlocking, rooting etc then the question changes and the answers are reflected in the other posts. TBH I have not rooted a phone since my LG G5 2 years ago and quite frankly I personally have no need to root anymore. The phones are pretty fast and I don't flash a new rom every few weeks.
I've never been as happy with a phone as I am with p20. Had Samsung, Sony, LG.
Hello, I got the phone a week ago. I was using samsung before that. I am very happy with the P20. I think samsung's interface is a bit laging and updates are very slow. Camera performance is very good. Fingerprint reader and face recognition work incredibly fast. I was undecided between S9 and P20, but the P20 is a much better phone. There are also people who say that Huawei is threatening people; but how do you know the others don't? Nobody is as innocent as they seem. If you're not going to root your phone, take the P20.
I bought it for 400€, I love the phone, the battery lasts very long, the camera is remarkably good, especially in low light conditions and the phone feels fast and smooth. The only problem, which has more to do with the brand rather than the phone, is the prohibition to unlock bootloaders via official way, although there are shady services who charge from 30$ to 50$ to unlock your phone. If flashing stuff is not important to you then go for it, although I hope a free method of obtaining the unlock code will eventually be leaked.
This is my first Huawei.Before I had a couple of Samsung phones.I'm satisfied with the P20:great battery life,great camera,good price and I allready have android 9.For now I don't see any reason to miss Samsung.
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I bought it for 400€, I love the phone, the battery lasts very long, the camera is remarkably good, especially in low light conditions and the phone feels fast and smooth. The only problem, which has more to do with the brand rather than the phone, is the prohibition to unlock bootloaders via official way, although there are shady services who charge from 30$ to 50$ to unlock your phone. If flashing stuff is not important to you then go for it, although I hope a free method of obtaining the unlock code will eventually be leaked.
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I find no eligible reasons to unlock the bootloader of P20 since there is no usable custom ROM, kernel & custom recovery, also no real developers working toward this phone. Thankfully, EMUI 9 features already cover all of my basic needs.
Been pretty confused as to which one to go for since the day the 6gb version of max pro m1 was announced. Already have a redmi phone and it seems filled with bloatware, which is a bit annoying. Also, dont like the MIUI, but have seen some reports of Asus after sales support being very bad and despite the 5000 mah battery the phone lasting a bit less than RN5P.Is this true? The anti rollback also seems like a small issue now on the RN5P. Also how will the development of roms and recoveries be for both the devices ?
As far as I am concerned ARP is an issue if you switch between MIUI roms. Custom roms don't have a firmware included (that's why developers say flash Specific_firmware.zip because they wrap their roms around them.) MIUI 10 is a beta so no it's highly unlikley they get shipped with ARB protection v.4 (always double check your device with fastboot getvar anti)
Long story short: you can flash/mod your device and make it look like stock Android in no time. It has a great & huge community. Even if you are on ARB v.4 (which is giving people headache because they flash MIUI with ARB v.3) you won't have a problem installing a custom rom (which is the important point here): Nobody likes MIUI, everyone wants stock!
Regarding the Asus Zenphone max pro m1 vs xiaomi camera: for an average user they are pretty much equal, however the xiaomi redmi note 5 pro camera performs slightly better (according to side by side comparisons).
4gb RAM vs 6gb RAM doesn't really matter to be honest. It's like having 16gb vs 8gb of RAM in a gaming PC: it doesn't matter for your daily purpose.
Both of the devices have a very good XDA community and custom rom support, again no problem modding both of these devices.
Conclusion: the only place I've found the asus phone was Aliexpress and yeah it's a bit more expansive (~260€) sure you have 6gb of RAM, meanwhile the RN5P is ~190-200€
I think you should go with the xiaomi redmi note 5 pro, again you have nothing to worry about in terms of price/performance the best one until ~400€ in all categories.
If you have a bit more money to spend I would recommend the OnePlus_6 (~500€) it's a beast.
Additional plus point for the xiaomi redmi note 5 pro (+ OnePlus and other high end devices) are the MOFI cases. Don't forget a tempered glass and you are good2go. Cheers, I hope I could have helped a bit
Asus is more expensive.
Xiaomi has better community, more roms and better support.
Arb is not a decision factor at all.
I do not remember well but in some review i watched, there was some little bugs in asus. As well as in rn5 lol).
6gb will NOT give you anything, in need of perfomance comparison you must get real testing side by side, and results can change with software updates.
In that review i watched, there was points score at the end, and both phones got equal score. I do not fully believe to reviewers, but it was looking kinda objective. Just some features are better in rn5, other better in asus.
Personally at first I would compare the software, size of community, custom roms amount, then camera shots, and then perfomance.
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4gb RAM vs 6gb RAM doesn't really matter to be honest. It's like having 16gb vs 8gb of RAM in a gaming PC: it doesn't matter for your daily purpose.
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I should have mentioned being from india where there is improvements in both the primary and secondary cameras for the 6 gb version of the max pro m1.
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Conclusion: the only place I've found the asus phone was Aliexpress and yeah it's a bit more expansive (~260€) sure you have 6gb of RAM, meanwhile the RN5P is ~190-200€
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In india, its exactly the same price for both the phones which is ~ 190€.
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If you have a bit more money to spend I would recommend the OnePlus_6 (~500€) it's a beast.
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Oh man, believe me this is a no brainer for everyone, but its almost double that of my budget. That being said if I ever have the budget for a Premium phone I am going for whatever version of OnePlus would be available that year.
Your reply was very helpful, thanks man ...
Well, maybe not everyone is from India? However I don't understand your statment regarding "Indians advancement of technology regarding cameras/6gb RAM". There are camera comparisons of these phones, watch them and then reply plz I don't care, the end product has to speak for itself!
To be honest ~1/2 years ago I had a phone with 2gb RAM, 16gb ROM and I didn't have any problems at all, so I don't see any problem here.
A lot of people actually think they don't need an expansive phone because they look at Apple and Samsung or let it be Google (which all are around 1k). A lot of people are simply not aware of that.
One hint: leave the sarcasm be, it should be a friendly open minded international community and not something corrupted twisted around india full of sarcasm and hatred with people only complaining about others and not even appreciate the time and effort.
Do you have an idea how often I have seen the question? Doesn't matter I always take my time to tell my opinion.
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Well, maybe not everyone is from India? However I don't understand your statment regarding "Indians advancement of technology regarding cameras/6gb RAM". There are camera comparisons of these phones, watch them and then reply plz I don't care, the end product has to speak for itself!
To be honest ~1/2 years ago I had a phone with 2gb RAM, 16gb ROM and I didn't have any problems at all, so I don't see any problem here.
A lot of people actually think they don't need an expansive phone because they look at Apple and Samsung or let it be Google (which all are around 1k). A lot of people are simply not aware of that.
One hint: leave the sarcasm be, it should be a friendly open minded international community and not something corrupted twisted around india full of sarcasm and hatred with people only complaining about others and not even appreciate the time and effort.
Do you have an idea how often I have seen the question? Doesn't matter I always take my time to tell my opinion.
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I was mentioning the 6gb version of the zenfone cause the cameras on it has been improved to 16 mp for both the primary and secondary from the previous 13 mp and 8 mp for the 3 & 4 gb versions of the phone. I just thought that the global version for this phone would be a little different like the MI 6X and the MI A2 (which are essentially the same but with minute differences). It might have come out wrong. I wasnt being sarcastic at all and your answer was actually very helpful.
These type of questions should be asked in Device suggestion thread.. i dont understand why people create different thread for same question
What is this arrogance about???!!!
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Well, maybe not everyone is from India? However I don't understand your statment regarding "Indians advancement of technology regarding cameras/6gb RAM". There are camera comparisons of these phones, watch them and then reply plz I don't care, the end product has to speak for itself!
To be honest ~1/2 years ago I had a phone with 2gb RAM, 16gb ROM and I didn't have any problems at all, so I don't see any problem here.
A lot of people actually think they don't need an expansive phone because they look at Apple and Samsung or let it be Google (which all are around 1k). A lot of people are simply not aware of that.
One hint: leave the sarcasm be, it should be a friendly open minded international community and not something corrupted twisted around india full of sarcasm and hatred with people only complaining about others and not even appreciate the time and effort.
Do you have an idea how often I have seen the question? Doesn't matter I always take my time to tell my opinion.
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Who are you? How much help have you provided to any community?? If any, what do you want from any of us(who are also in the same community of XDA,specially from Indians) in return??? How dare you to complain against a race or a nation like that?? You are one of the dumbest one to be seen in XDA's history and you are really lucky that the questioner(5tunter) was really humble to ignore your arrogant and sarcastic reply.
Now read out and try to follow what he was trying to mean to you..
RN5P 4gb/64 and AZM1 6gb/64 both are available in India with exactly same price i.e. INR 14,999 (~ 190€.) So we are not dumb enough to buy it from AliExpress by paying much more price. You are not from India that is your problem, or are you asking us to move to your place and buy the same phone from AliExpress?? So, as both of them available at exact same price now it's really hard to decide which one to buy as previously RN5P was quite better in terms of overall offerings and particularly in Camera department compared to AZMPM1's 4gb variant. But Asus has come a long way and upped their offering with the 6gb variant with a newer and better camera setup which performs as good as RN5P( as you referring to lots of comparison available on YouTube) and surprisingly with same tag of ~ 190€ compared to 4gb RN5P ( He dosn't have to pay ~ 260€ like you). Also there are so many other aspects of both the phone but in each and every comparison they are not far superior or inferior from each other. So it's really hard to decide and that's why so many of buyers asking for the final opinion which is more hard to find from any available comparison.
If you can help him to decide that is fine If not then also that is fine but why trolling someone who doesn't want to buy(but really wish to have the money to buy it when his budget allows him to) a phone what costs more than double i.e. INR 34,999.00(~500€) . If every one can afford OP6 then what's the point having RN5P or AZMPM1 in market!!! Or we have to mortgage our property or savings to get OP6, as you are liking it very much!!!
And please try to avoid these kind of words in future like "sarcasm and hatred", when no one provoking you to use it and otherwise humble to you.
I can understand your confusion, as i am in that situation myself. I currently own Redmi Note 5 Pro (4+64 black) running AEX rom without any issues but i was eagerly waiting for the 6gb variant of Zenfone Max Pro as i am planning to switch to that and from my perspective let me tell you why:
Pros of Zenfone Max Pro(6gb):
1. More Ram (only helpful if you are a intense user)
2. dedicated sd card slot (absolutely need it)
3. RGB notification led (unlike white led crap on RN5P).
4. Stock android (for those who does not like miui and dont wanna root and all)
5. Improved cameras
6. Battery (not a big difference over RN5P though).
7. Slightly better loudspeaker performance
8. Price!
Apart from this performance, display and appearance is not much different. So yeah choice is yours. I'll personally go for Asus than RN5P for 15k!
I use a Mate 9, almost 3 years old, slight screen crack and failing battery, running omnirom for past 18 months. I don't game. I really like Z6's giant battery, headphone jack, microSD. I don't really care about the super smooth 1P7P screen -- mostly I read, write and research on a phone. But I tend to be very particular about UI and I abhored EMUI, especially v8, which stopped apps I wanted to run and prevented Nova launcher from working properly. So I value and use an active dev community and 1+ probably has the best. (I'd but another Huawei if they still issued bootloader unlock codes and encouraged developers.). So as experienced Zenfone users, what are your thoughts? The 5Z seems super easy to unlock -- no code needed. Why aren't there more ROMs, especially since commentary suggests that zenUI isn't loved?
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I use a Mate 9, almost 3 years old, slight screen crack and failing battery, running omnirom for past 18 months. I don't game. I really like Z6's giant battery, headphone jack, microSD. I don't really care about the super smooth 1P7P screen -- mostly I read, write and research on a phone. But I tend to be very particular about UI and I abhored EMUI, especially v8, which stopped apps I wanted to run and prevented Nova launcher from working properly. So I value and use an active dev community and 1+ probably has the best. (I'd but another Huawei if they still issued bootloader unlock codes and encouraged developers.). So as experienced Zenfone users, what are your thoughts? The 5Z seems super easy to unlock -- no code needed. Why aren't there more ROMs, especially since commentary suggests that zenUI isn't loved?
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Well. As you already know, ZenUI 6.0 has been launched along with Z6, which is just vanilla android with Asus's additional features. According to me, you should wait for Z6 for the following reasons:
1. 1+7 Pro's screen looks gorgeous, but it is very very prone to damage, also Z6s LCD supports 100% of Color Gamut.
2. 1+s battery is just sub standard, yes they give Warp Charging, but as it is rightly said, they are just killing the anxiety, actual productivity is to actually have a large battery. Also, Z6 comes with Qualcomm QuickCharge 4.0
3. Z6s 5000 mAH battery coupled with SD855 will give a stellar SOT.
4. 1+ may have the Sony IMX 586 at rear, but its front camera is average at best. On the other hand, in Z6 you get the exact same high end camera for both rear and front camera photography.
5. And finally, there is a chance that ZenUI 6 is better than OOS. Also, Z6 is included in the Q beta program and ZenUI 6 is as stock as possible, so you can expect very quick updates. Also, Asus has guaranteed Android R update as well.
I drop my phone a lot. The Spigen case has been great at protecting it, but the glass back is a defect to me, too. I would like the telephoto on the 7P though.
both are preety good. But both comes under diffrent costing.
If money is not the issue for you and you want hdr 10 amoled display and be ok with no expandable storage and 4000 mah battry you can buy one plus 7 pro.
But if you can be ok with slighlty lesser display quality and can be ok with the lcd can offer. And you want 5000 mah battery, with new camera technology. And you wana save money by huge amount or you are set on bugget wait for zenfone 6. Its gona be a great device.
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I drop my phone a lot. The Spigen case has been great at protecting it, but the glass back is a defect to me, too. I would like the telephoto on the 7P though.
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one plus has cornning gorilla v 5 zenfone has v6
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Pretty much I prefer the specs of the Z6. But what about the dev community? Why, when three Z5 is so easy to unlock and root, are there so few ROMs? The Huawei's have more and they went totally hostile to devs.
One other problem: GSMArena is reporting that the Z6 does not include Band 71, T-Mobile's 600MHz band, which is increasingly important for T-Mo customers, although not deployed yet where I live. Where deployed, it is pretty uncongested, which makes it desirable for me.
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Pretty much I prefer the specs of the Z6. But what about the dev community? Why, when three Z5 is so easy to unlock and root, are there so few ROMs? The Huawei's have more and they went totally hostile to devs.
One other problem: GSMArena is reporting that the Z6 does not include Band 71, T-Mobile's 600MHz band, which is increasingly important for T-Mo customers, although not deployed yet where I live. Where deployed, it is pretty uncongested, which makes it desirable for me.
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unlocking zenfone 5z is daam easy on the other hand rooting it is a very long procedure.
Well i am not so sure about dev community.
since zenfone max pro series is google stock rom it has preety decent development. On the other hand well all i can say is you can expect 1 or 2 development programs for sure. But don't expect any more further development.
Most of the developers will focus on one plus 7 nd pro, upcoming xiaomi POCOFONE F2, and other devices with stock google rom.
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Taking a look at the 5Z Dev Forum... That looks kinda disapointing.
i was looking for a bit more development than my Sony Xperia XZ2.
Coming from the Old Sonys and the HTC10 which had a fairly big Custom Rom Community i'm somewhat disapointed. And going for a Pixel or OnePlus without a MicroSD slot is not an option.
I think the whole world of phone enthusiasts will be watching the dev section of Z6. Hope that terminations ZL XL KL, etc, or whatever they call it, doesn't make a different phone such as with Samsung, LG phones, thus making development much more difficult and restrictive for some.
For the price they ask, it's a good choice, negatives would be lack of telephoto and IR blaster, but we can live without them for sure.
I kinda hope that the community will grow, as I would like to change my LeMax2.
i would say the Z6 is way better bang for the buck compared to the oneplus. I will see once its on store shelves before buying though. Huawei seem to be in a lot of trouble right now with google actually pulling its services for their devices, updates and play store access, will keep an eye on that.
Yeah the only thing stopping me from buying z6 is the custom rom development
I'm pretty sure with ASUS' shift towards AOSP, development efforts will be far greater for the 6 than the 5z.
I'm just hoping they release a big screen version that's a true successor to their old phablets. A 16:9 or 16:10 7-8" device would be awesome.
Pleaseeee ASUS.
Also I'm not sure why XDA haven't added a Zenfone 6 forum ...
mudnightoil said:
Also I'm not sure why XDA haven't added a Zenfone 6 forum ...
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Having the same question...
Edit: Source code and bootloader unlock tool are available. Fingers crossed for some heavy development https://www.asus.com/Phone/ZenFone-6-ZS630KL/HelpDesk_Download/
Edit2: They've created a forum for it
Zenfone seems like the better phone bigger battery
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It's not about the money.
I am was a OnePlus user until OnePlus 5T. But later I realised OnePlus has forgot its core values. I don't mean that OnePlus devices aren't good. They are best . But Asus Is implementing the same strategy OnePlus used years ago. Great Devices with Low Cost Value . Asus devices aren't either bad. They are best as per the cost. Quality & Cost is Balanced you know what I mean. It's just about Premium & Budget. Both the devices are great with there own unique way. I love both the companies Asus at priority & OnePlus at Satisfaction.
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I use a Mate 9, almost 3 years old, slight screen crack and failing battery, running omnirom for past 18 months. I don't game. I really like Z6's giant battery, headphone jack, microSD. I don't really care about the super smooth 1P7P screen -- mostly I read, write and research on a phone. But I tend to be very particular about UI and I abhored EMUI, especially v8, which stopped apps I wanted to run and prevented Nova launcher from working properly. So I value and use an active dev community and 1+ probably has the best. (I'd but another Huawei if they still issued bootloader unlock codes and encouraged developers.). So as experienced Zenfone users, what are your thoughts? The 5Z seems super easy to unlock -- no code needed. Why aren't there more ROMs, especially since commentary suggests that zenUI isn't loved?
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Get a Redmi K20 Pro
XblackdemonX said:
Get a Redmi K20 Pro
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The best answer here.
Think twice before going for Asus zenfone 6
Trust me you don't wanna spend your life waiting for a official ROM to arrive. The cheaper doesn't always mean compromise, after using Zuk Z2 plus for 2 years, still i feel much happier using Zuk Z2, am running official lineage os and twrp was available from day 1. Anyways I learnt it the hard way that Asus is pretty cheap, they earn a huge profit by selling your privacy. Won't do mistake again, Privacy is more important than specs anyday, hands down to Zenfone6. People may take price of OP7 as granted but OP7 will be 20 times more successful and loved and supported in XDA.