I had been a 10-year iPhone user. And after the OnePlus 5T I'll never go back. But the one thing that isn't working for me is, is there a way for you to be on the phone and use the internet to schedule appointments or look something up while chatting? Is this an Android complication? I do have AT&T with gsm service. Same sim cards did allow that on iPhone. I've even tried speaking on sim 1 and use data on sim 2. Fingers crossed there is a way.??
Robbm3 said:
I had been a 10-year iPhone user. And after the OnePlus 5T I'll never go back. But the one thing that isn't working for me is, is there a way for you to be on the phone and use the internet to schedule appointments or look something up while chatting? Is this an Android complication? I do have AT&T with gsm service. Same sim cards did allow that on iPhone. I've even tried speaking on sim 1 and use data on sim 2. Fingers crossed there is a way.??
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What do you mean? All you have to do is press the home button on the navigation bar while you're in a call, then open whatever app you want to use and use it. You can do anything you want while talking on the phone, all on the same sim. No need for 2 sims.
Skeptico said:
What do you mean? All you have to do is press the home button on the navigation bar while you're in a call, then open whatever app you want to use and use it. You can do anything you want while talking on the phone, all on the same sim. No need for 2 sims.
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Hmm. Mine doesn't work that way. I get a not connected to internet message with full bars showing that it is available. Off the phone call the internet works again. ?
The OP5(T) is a DSDS phone. Dual Sim, Dual Standby.
Here is a link that explains the difference: http://gadgetguideonline.com/androi...m-android-phones-dual-standby-vs-dual-active/
Robbm3 said:
Hmm. Mine doesn't work that way. I get a not connected to internet message with full bars showing that it is available. Off the phone call the internet works again. ?
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I only have 1 sim and it works fine for me. I've never used 2 sims before so I'm not sure why it wouldn't work with 2 sims.
Maybe try disabling one of the sims and then try it?
Robbm3 said:
I've even tried speaking on sim 1 and use data on sim 2.
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That's precisely why it doesn't work. The OP5T is a DSDS device, meaning that only one SIM can connect at a time. So in call, SIM 1 uses the connection continuously, and SIM 2 is disabled. Try with only one SIM inserted for calls and data and you'll see that you can press home and do whatever you want just like you can with the iPhone
I think we have a misunderstanding here... the thread starter seems to complain about the fact that the internet is offline during a call. Unless the call is via VoLTE or Wifi calling, this is correct. When 3G or good old GSM are used, data services are being suspended. This should be the same with every other phone, including the iPhone.
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I got the Nexus from Bell Canada and I noticed that I have something called SIM toolkit in the app drawer. I clicked on it and it loaded but it didn't do anything. What is it and what does it do? Is it a bloatware?
In Europe is STK often used as an authentication channel for internet banking
or if your provider sim has built-in functionnality ,like shortcuts ...or services
So no way to get rid of it?
NexusDro said:
So no way to get rid of it?
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can't you disable it? (long press app icon -> app info -> disable)
alexluckett said:
can't you disable it? (long press app icon -> app info -> disable)
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Or freeze it in Titanium Backup or uninstall it.
Ya, I was just wondering if it's some bloatware that was installed by my carrier.
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Ya, I was just wondering if it's some bloatware that was installed by my carrier.
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No, it's the equivalent of the SIM menu that exists on just about any GSM standards-compliant phone if the carrier chooses to present a SIM menu. Remember that the SIM is actually a small computer chip that runs authentication algorithms and other simple programs. STK just queries the SIM to ask if it has a SIM menu, and if so it presents it to you. On Bell it doesn't do much - just lets you visit the account self-serve web portal and dial common customer service numbers. On WIND you can use it to request an SMS with your account balance and usage details, and also under certain circumstances to force it to look for roaming networks.
I think it's also responsible for pop-up messages that come from the SIM - for example on AT&T GoPhone, you get a pop-up every time you do something that decrements your balance, so that you know how much it cost you.
Short version - it doesn't do much, and it does absolutely nothing when you aren't running it. Leave it on, because every once in a while it's useful.
For me stk menu is important , i use an dual simcard adapter in my nexus
But in most custom rom it didn't appear ...
I've deleted it in every ROM for the last couple of years with no side-effects. (T-Mobile UK).
doudou425 said:
For me stk menu is important , i use an dual simcard adapter in my nexus
But in most custom rom it didn't appear ...
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i, where did you get this dual simcard adapter? i would love to try this... do you get 2 lins at the same time ?? How does it work? Please post a link
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I've deleted it in every ROM for the last couple of years with no side-effects. (T-Mobile UK).
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There is truly no advantage in doing so... it consumes no resources, and on the rare occasions you might need it again, getting it back is a pain.
If you are using a SIM that does not have any SIM menu programmed into it, the icon will vanish automatically. For example my LG Optimus One shows the STK with a Bell SIM but it vanishes with a Fido SIM.
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i, where did you get this dual simcard adapter? i would love to try this... do you get 2 lins at the same time ?? How does it work? Please post a link
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it's a simore platinum adapter
http://www.simore.ch/en/two_sim_cards_in_one_mobile/dual_sim_card_platinum.php
but it's impossible to use 2 sim at same time, but i can program it to switch automatically (1 hour on sim 1 ,10 minutes on sim 2 )
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No, it's the equivalent of the SIM menu that exists on just about any GSM standards-compliant phone if the carrier chooses to present a SIM menu. Remember that the SIM is actually a small computer chip that runs authentication algorithms and other simple programs. STK just queries the SIM to ask if it has a SIM menu, and if so it presents it to you. On Bell it doesn't do much - just lets you visit the account self-serve web portal and dial common customer service numbers. On WIND you can use it to request an SMS with your account balance and usage details, and also under certain circumstances to force it to look for roaming networks.
I think it's also responsible for pop-up messages that come from the SIM - for example on AT&T GoPhone, you get a pop-up every time you do something that decrements your balance, so that you know how much it cost you.
Short version - it doesn't do much, and it does absolutely nothing when you aren't running it. Leave it on, because every once in a while it's useful.
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aw! Thanks for the info!!
Hi there,
I recently sent my phone back to HTC because my volume button was stuck, which resulted in it not being able to boot (as it always went straight to recovery). They repaired it, and after three weeks without my phone I know received it back. They 'replaced parts and did a software update.'
Problem is, now I have no mobile network connection. The phone recognises the SIM fine, but no signal and search networks results in "Error while searching for networks."
I'm blaming the software update HTC did, so I send them another email. The thing is, I don't want to send it back AGAIN, I had the phone a full 2 weeks before it broke and haven't been able to use it since. Is there anything you guys can think of that doesn't involve rooting it and losing my warranty (which I will probably need now)?
Thanks a bunch
Hello,
have you tried to switch between the network mode; only WCDMA or only GSM? (Settings->Mobile Network->Network Mode)
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Hello,
have you tried to switch between the network mode; only WCDMA or only GSM? (Settings->Mobile Network->Network Mode)
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Thanks for the reply. Yes I have, no effect. One other weird thing I have noticed since first posting: at the about -> Phone Identity screen, the phone number does not match my actual sim phone number. It reads the SIM fine though, as all my SIM contacts are available.
Could you use/try another SIM Card to check its work with a different one?
Is WiFi working? Any interruptions druing a regular call?
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Could you use/try another SIM Card to check its work with a different one?
Is WiFi working? Any interruptions druing a regular call?
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Regular call is impossible, as I have no cellular network at all. Wifi works fine. I am currently unable to try another SIM, as I'd have to cut a microsim out of a regular one and people around don't want to have their card cut up.
The sim works fine in my old nokia though, so I don't think that's the issue.
I'll try to find a friend with an iPhone 4 to try their microsim, but I'm not really counting on it.
We have a Galaxy Note 2 from ATT now. Just upgraded, so we're not using it. We want to take it to Europe to use as a phone and a hotspot for our computers on our trip. I've read that people do that with unlocked Androids and a European SIM.
I was able to unlock the phone with no problem using a data only T-Mobile SIM card in the process. The problem is that I can't turn the Mobile Hot Spot on. I've tried with the valid data only T-mobild SIM installed. When I try to turn the hotspot on, it says that either the network is not available, or there's an invalid SIM. I'm worried that it's the ATT restrictions on the phone that aren't going away even if the phone is unlocked, and there's a different SIM in place.
Does anyone know what we have to do to enable the hotspot, so that this phone can be used in Europe?
Thanks.
Try with wifix.apk
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Try with wifix.apk
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Thanks. That looks like a good app to fix problems connecting to external wifi sources. However, I want my phone to BE the wifi source when in Europe. Still looking for a solution.
artbytes said:
Thanks. That looks like a good app to fix problems connecting to external wifi sources. However, I want my phone to BE the wifi source when in Europe. Still looking for a solution.
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Sorry my bad you should go for foxfi.apk to fix locked wifi and usb tetharing and its tested by me (if it doesn't work for u then there are several more apks. search). Good luck
artbytes said:
We have a Galaxy Note 2 from ATT now. Just upgraded, so we're not using it. We want to take it to Europe to use as a phone and a hotspot for our computers on our trip. I've read that people do that with unlocked Androids and a European SIM.
I was able to unlock the phone with no problem using a data only T-Mobile SIM card in the process. The problem is that I can't turn the Mobile Hot Spot on. I've tried with the valid data only T-mobild SIM installed. When I try to turn the hotspot on, it says that either the network is not available, or there's an invalid SIM. I'm worried that it's the ATT restrictions on the phone that aren't going away even if the phone is unlocked, and there's a different SIM in place.
Does anyone know what we have to do to enable the hotspot, so that this phone can be used in Europe?
Thanks.
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The thing that sticks out to me is that you actually need the correct Sim card that is provisioned for phone service.. I'm assuming this "data only sim" was provisioned for a tablet and therefore can't make any calls... the network unavailable message will show up even with no Sim installed and trying to enable a hotspot. You need a valid cell service in order to hotspot.
Hope Getting the Right SIM will do it.
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The thing that sticks out to me is that you actually need the correct Sim card that is provisioned for phone service.. I'm assuming this "data only sim" was provisioned for a tablet and therefore can't make any calls... the network unavailable message will show up even with no Sim installed and trying to enable a hotspot. You need a valid cell service in order to hotspot.
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Thanks. I hope that's what the problem is. It would make things simpler to be sure. I just didn't want to get there and then find out it wasn't going to work. In the meantime, I found my old Galaxy S 3. I managed to unlock it, root it, and install basic ROM. Thought maybe that would work, as well. I'll know by next week.
This was first flagged up by @ShootistUK on the Eragon ROM development thread but thought I would open a thread for it here as the other thread is getting long and is probably not the place to discuss this sim card.
Mine arrived today and I have spent many hours trying to get it working in my phones(Galaxy S3, Moto G 4G as well as the P8000) - I did manage to send and receive a text and make a call after installing their own messaging app(which they tell you to do) but so far have not managed to get data working at all despite it being basically a 3UK sim so it should use the same apn I would guess. I already have 3 other 3UK sims so am quite well versed in getting them working but so far the freedompop one has defeated me!
Hopefully ShootistUK will let us know if he has had any success(I doubt or if there is anyone else who has one of these sims please let me know.
Well, you have had more success than me. I fail to even get the application to work. It always gives me an error about using up all my premium minutes (or something similar) and to turn wifi off which does nothing at all to help. However I cannot get my 3-2-1 sim from 3 to work unless I make it the default data sim which pretty much defeats the object of having the sim in the phone alongside my vectone unlimited sim.
Hmmm, interesting - so your main sim is your vectone one(which is an EE mvno) - The problem with the 3 sim is that it cannot function in 2G mode and the p8000 doesn't allow you to run both sim slots in 3G mode so you are going to lose some functionality somewhere. What is your ideal setup by the way? I suspect it's not going to be achievable unfortunately...I am currently running my 3-2-1 sim as default for data/sms/calls and have a Vodafone payg as backup in case there's no 3 signal(so really for calls and the odd text too. I also have a tpo sim which I could use for backup but I don't think I can use the FP + 3-2-1 together and in fact can't even get the FP one fully working by itself. I may try again tomorrow in a different location in case it was a case of weak signal?? I'm sure I saw that error too but I'll see if I can replicate that issue again!
Well I have got both sims functioning at the moment by enabling default data sim as the 3-2-1 sim (but disabling data in the other menu so it doesnt use the data connection) and relying on wi-fi at home and work. At least this way I can receive and make calls/texts on both sims even though I can not use mobile data on the vectone sim and do not want to use the data on the payg sim. This is not in anyway a perfect solution but I suppose an issue with dual sim phones.
Yes, that's not ideal I guess but at least the vectone sim functions in 2G mode, I don't think it's possible to get two 3-2-1 sims working together.
Well I will now see if I can get my 3 pay monthly sim to work in the phone instead of the 3-2-1 sim using the same method. Just very annoying that they only work together if I have disabled data on the vectone and enabled and disabled the data on the 3-2-1 sim. Is there anyway to get the 3-2-1 sim and another sim working together with the data set to the non 3-2-1 sim? I like vectone for the price but willing to get another provider if I can get them to co-exist.
So you enable the data in the sim cards settings and disable in the data usage section, is that correct?
Simple answer is yes, make the 3-2-1 sim the preferred data sim and then disable the data in the data usage menu. Then both sims work for calls and sms. If i need mobile data I then make the vectone sim the data sim which turns the 3-2-1 sim off.
yeah that's a bit of a clunky solution but it's the only one that'll work unfortunately but you won't be able to get 2x 3UK sims working on 3G/4G at the same time I suspect...
I was thinking about buy an Oneplus 3 A3000 model. Does anyone know A3000 support dual sim. Does it has 2 separate imei numbers?
Thank you!
Yup, dual SIM and different IMEI numbers for each slot.
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Yup, dual SIM and different IMEI numbers for each slot.
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is it dual active where i can receive a call from both sim cards at the same time?
jrfan888 said:
is it dual active where i can receive a call from both sim cards at the same time?
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You should be able to.
i think it has u choose, u can use sim 1 to make/receive calls/text and sim2 for data, i am not sure if u can have calls on both
You have a primary there is an option to make calls with the secondary if you want.
i have a dual sim setup. i have tried to make a call from sim one. connect to a land line, then from another cell phone call sim two..call on sim 2 goes to voicemail
sim one is my primary number so i set it up to call out from there and make me choose before a call goes out.
when a call comes it, it will tell you sim 1 or 2. you can also label the sim cards now in the latest update.
you can set sim 1 to be data and text, sim 2 can then only do data. one sim card with data at a time.
this works perfect for me since personal phone gets text/calls/data and work line gets only texts and calls.
cool things, textra app can differentiate between sim1 and 2. lets you choose which one to send out from.
i would like it to have different ring tones for each line, but right now i super fine with only carrying ONE awesome phone instead of having to buy another smart phone for work. i would have been carrying around my personal android and then company issued stupid iphone. eeewww, the thought of being a wall hugger with the iphone.
ask me any more questions about dual sim.
gshadow325 said:
i have a dual sim setup. i have tried to make a call from sim one. connect to a land line, then from another cell phone call sim two..call on sim 2 goes to voicemail
sim one is my primary number so i set it up to call out from there and make me choose before a call goes out.
when a call comes it, it will tell you sim 1 or 2. you can also label the sim cards now in the latest update.
you can set sim 1 to be data and text, sim 2 can then only do data. one sim card with data at a time.
this works perfect for me since personal phone gets text/calls/data and work line gets only texts and calls.
cool things, textra app can differentiate between sim1 and 2. lets you choose which one to send out from.
i would like it to have different ring tones for each line, but right now i super fine with only carrying ONE awesome phone instead of having to buy another smart phone for work. i would have been carrying around my personal android and then company issued stupid iphone. eeewww, the thought of being a wall hugger with the iphone.
ask me any more questions about dual sim.
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i too have a personal and a work phone. dual sim phones are awesome. i currently have a dual s7. i'm thinking about switching to the OP3 because it has 3g on both sim cards and doesn't limit me to 2g on one of the sim cards. my current set up is:
sim 1: 2g - calls and texts (ATT)
sim 2: 2g/3g/4g - calls, text, data (TMO)
it has a sim manager built in so you can switch this at any moment. i can receive calls and text from both sims throughout the day. Is that the case on the OnePlus3?
I am having a problem. I have 2 sims. One for data and one for calls / sms.
I noticed that if the phone just sits there(asleep), calls don't come through. I will get a voicemail notification.
Even tried calling the phone myself. Goes straight to voicemail. If the phone is awake, calls go through no problem.
I have reversed the sims and same problem.
Any ideas. Does doze maybe have anything to do with this?
jrfan888 said:
i too have a personal and a work phone. dual sim phones are awesome. i currently have a dual s7. i'm thinking about switching to the OP3 because it has 3g on both sim cards and doesn't limit me to 2g on one of the sim cards. my current set up is:
sim 1: 2g - calls and texts (ATT)
sim 2: 2g/3g/4g - calls, text, data (TMO)
it has a sim manager built in so you can switch this at any moment. i can receive calls and text from both sims throughout the day. Is that the case on the OnePlus3?
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I do the following,
Sim 1 T-Mobile LTE, text, data, voice
Sim 2 T-Mobile text and voice, turned off data
My settings are sim 1 data, sim 2 text
Calls come in on both lines when ever and how ever. I found that if I didn't set sim 2 to text. Calls and texts didn't work for some reason.
I do have backup data on sim 2 of 2gb.
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I do the following,
Sim 1 T-Mobile LTE, text, data, voice
Sim 2 T-Mobile text and voice, turned off data
My settings are sim 1 data, sim 2 text
Calls come in on both lines when ever and how ever. I found that if I didn't set sim 2 to text. Calls and texts didn't work for some reason.
I do have backup data on sim 2 of 2gb.
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fancy - that's what im thinking of doing
gshadow325 said:
I do the following,
Sim 1 T-Mobile LTE, text, data, voice
Sim 2 T-Mobile text and voice, turned off data
My settings are sim 1 data, sim 2 text
Calls come in on both lines when ever and how ever. I found that if I didn't set sim 2 to text. Calls and texts didn't work for some reason.
I do have backup data on sim 2 of 2gb.
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Any updates on this behavior with latest fw updates? I'm getting a OP3 and will be using dual sim setup. Do I need to get a 3rd party dialer to select which sim to call from, associate certain contacts with certain outgoing calls/sim? I've read about several 3rd party apps for this, but hoping OP3 already has this functionality.
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Any updates on this behavior with latest fw updates? I'm getting a OP3 and will be using dual sim setup. Do I need to get a 3rd party dialer to select which sim to call from, associate certain contacts with certain outgoing calls/sim? I've read about several 3rd party apps for this, but hoping OP3 already has this functionality.
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i bought this phone because of dual sim about 3 months before i needed it. Had a second SIM for the last 2.5 months
Well let me tell you, i got the job i was going for, exactly 10 days ago.
It is awesome, i figured out my setting finally. I have it set now for calls to go out to default to SIM1, texts to default of SIM1.
Changed to PROPER network on SIM1, tmobile has a few to choose like fast.tmobile, (e) something or another. i set it to fast.tmobile.
Your dailer will know. you can choose 1 or 2 SIM. Stock, downloaded apps, everything will know. I really like using true caller app now because of this. I now have a potential DOUBLE amount of spam calls!
As with text apps, i like to use textra for one main reason. Delayed text sending. using stock app, i sent MANY texts using the WRONG SIM by accident. I set my delay to 5 seconds.
I set my sim card 1 to be blue, sim card 2 to be red. so the dailer comes up red or blue depending on the sim getting called.
I do wish i can get different ring tones on 2 sim lines. Only custom roms can do that BUT i like to have WORKING bluetooth and Android Auto. So far i have tried Ressurection Remix, both official and the other one floating around. No good when it comes to Android Auto AND working bluetooth. Freedom OS doesnt have different ring tones for dual sims. If you find one that works please let me know!