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HTC 10 US version in Europe for LTE?

I currently use AT&T and often visit Europe and use my Vodafone sim card while I am over there. It seems like US version supports most of the Vodafone LTE bands, but EMEA version supports none of the AT&T bands. Should I buy the new HTC 10 from US?
According to this web site, Vodafone Turkey works on; 800, 900, 1800, 2100, and 2600 bands. http://www.spectrummonitoring.com/frequencies/#Turkey
And AT&T works on; 2(1900), 4(1700/2100), 5(850), and 17(700).
I am little confused because, for example; 2600 frequency is listed as 38(2600) and 7(2600), while 700 frequency is listed as 17(700) and 28(700) for US and EMEA versions.
And if I buy the US version, I will not be getting hi-fi headphones right?

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ozguroge said:
I currently use AT&T and often visit Europe and use my Vodafone sim card while I am over there. It seems like US version supports most of the Vodafone LTE bands, but EMEA version supports none of the AT&T bands. Should I buy the new HTC 10 from US?
According to this web site, Vodafone Turkey works on; 800, 900, 1800, 2100, and 2600 bands. http://www.spectrummonitoring.com/frequencies/#Turkey
And AT&T works on; 2(1900), 4(1700/2100), 5(850), and 17(700).
I am little confused because, for example; 2600 frequency is listed as 38(2600) and 7(2600), while 700 frequency is listed as 17(700) and 28(700) for US and EMEA versions.
And if I buy the US version, I will not be getting hi-fi headphones right?
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With LTE networks there's FDD bands and then there's TDD bands. FDD/TDD tells what the duplex mode is. Don't ask me anything specific about that though
For example, 2600Mhz frequency at bands 7 and 38 are not compatible with each other despite same frequency but different duplex mode.
Here, I made a little table for you to help visualize the difference
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EMEA you get:
5/5 Vodafone Turkey
1/4 AT&T USA
USA you get:
4/5 Vodafone Turkey
4/4 AT&T USA
Buy the USA version, you only lose 900Mhz (Band 8) with Vodafone. I wouldn't call that a big loss unless you spend lots of time in the country side.
Because that's where 800/900Mhz frequencies are mainly used since their signal can travel so far. Higher frequencies are then used in cities etcetera.
In the event that you're in 900Mhz band 8 area, there's a high chance there's 800Mhz signal. Or 900Mhz UMTS. So you're pretty much set with the USA version.
And no you don't get the earphones with unlocked from HTC or from carrier unless they bundle them with the phone.

lagittaja said:
With LTE networks there's FDD bands and then there's TDD bands. FDD/TDD tells what the duplex mode is. Don't ask me anything specific about that though
For example, 2600Mhz frequency at bands 7 and 38 are not compatible with each other despite same frequency but different duplex mode.
Here, I made a little table for you to help visualize the difference
EMEA you get:
5/5 Vodafone Turkey
1/4 AT&T USA
USA you get:
4/5 Vodafone Turkey
4/4 AT&T USA
Buy the USA version, you only lose 900Mhz (Band 8) with Vodafone. I wouldn't call that a big loss unless you spend lots of time in the country side.
Because that's where 800/900Mhz frequencies are mainly used since their signal can travel so far. Higher frequencies are then used in cities etcetera.
In the event that you're in 900Mhz band 8 area, there's a high chance there's 800Mhz signal. Or 900Mhz UMTS. So you're pretty much set with the USA version.
And no you don't get the earphones with unlocked from HTC or from carrier unless they bundle them with the phone.
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Thank you so much for clarifying my confusion, also by making a chart to explain respect...
I think I will be buying a US unlocked version.:good:

US version also supports band 30 for AT&T. It's been showing up in major U.S. cities such as New York and Baltimore.
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lagittaja said:
With LTE networks there's FDD bands and then there's TDD bands. FDD/TDD tells what the duplex mode is. Don't ask me anything specific about that though
For example, 2600Mhz frequency at bands 7 and 38 are not compatible with each other despite same frequency but different duplex mode.
Here, I made a little table for you to help visualize the difference
EMEA you get:
5/5 Vodafone Turkey
1/4 AT&T USA
USA you get:
4/5 Vodafone Turkey
4/4 AT&T USA
Buy the USA version, you only lose 900Mhz (Band 8) with Vodafone. I wouldn't call that a big loss unless you spend lots of time in the country side.
Because that's where 800/900Mhz frequencies are mainly used since their signal can travel so far. Higher frequencies are then used in cities etcetera.
In the event that you're in 900Mhz band 8 area, there's a high chance there's 800Mhz signal. Or 900Mhz UMTS. So you're pretty much set with the USA version.
And no you don't get the earphones with unlocked from HTC or from carrier unless they bundle them with the phone.
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Friend please help me...
I have 2 carriers in my country with specs:
Carrier 1:*B8 FDD*LTE frekuensi 900 MHz / B3 FDD LTE frekuensi 1.800 MHz
Carrier 2:*B5 FDD*LTE frekuensi 850 Mhz / B40 TDD*LTE frekuensi 2.300 MHz
Its LTE bands should works with HTC 10 T-Mobile unlocked?
Many thanks

adrs168 said:
Friend please help me...
I have 2 carriers in my country with specs:
Carrier 1:*B8 FDD*LTE frekuensi 900 MHz / B3 FDD LTE frekuensi 1.800 MHz
Carrier 2:*B5 FDD*LTE frekuensi 850 Mhz / B40 TDD*LTE frekuensi 2.300 MHz
Its LTE bands should works with HTC 10 T-Mobile unlocked?
Many thanks
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The T-Mobile US version will only work with carrier 1 on B3 and carrier 2 on B5. It doesn't support band 8 and doesn't support any TDD frequencies. You'll have to look at how coverage is on those carriers within those bands and decide if it's worth it to you.

HTC 10 Verizon
Superguy said:
The T-Mobile US version will only work with carrier 1 on B3 and carrier 2 on B5. It doesn't support band 8 and doesn't support any TDD frequencies. You'll have to look at how coverage is on those carriers within those bands and decide if it's worth it to you.
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Thanks friend...
How about HTC 10 Verizon ? Its will support in my country, with FDD LTE band 3, 8 & 5?
Many thanks.

Bands for EU / US?

How usable will this release of the RN5P be for users in the EU and US?

We don't know yet.

no LTE band 20

mrfaggio said:
no LTE band 20
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Source?
Inviato dal mio Nexus 10 utilizzando Tapatalk

https://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_redmi_note_5_pro-8893.php
expand and look at "4G bands"

I'm also very curious if the phone will be usable in US.
Referencing https://forums.att.com/t5/Phone-Dev...-AT-amp-T-s-4G-LTE-bands-in-2018/td-p/5359265 it seems like it'll be at least slightly usable - how long will the delay be for an international version?

ilciumbia said:
Source?
Inviato dal mio Nexus 10 utilizzando Tapatalk
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https://gizchina.it/2018/02/xiaomi-redmi-note-4-vs-redmi-5-plus-vs-redmi-note-5-pro-differenze/

Here you can see wich Band´s are with the Device:
https://www.kimovil.com/en/where-to-buy-xiaomi-redmi-note-5-pro
I have the Old Redmi Note 3 and there are much more Bands in it:
https://www.kimovil.com/en/compare/xiaomi-redmi-note-3-pro,xiaomi-redmi-note-5-pro
RN3 are 11 LTE and the RN5Pro only 5 =(
But i mostly need Band 1 so iam happy with that.

GSMArena says:
2G bands GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 - SIM 1 & SIM 2
3G bands HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
4G bands LTE band 1(2100), 3(1800), 5(850), 40(2300), 41(2500)
Almost unusable in US/Canada for me. Only one LTE band matches my carrier and it's not a good one.
Nobody in USA/Canada will be using this phone. They would have no coverage most of the time.

black.kahder said:
GSMArena says:
2G bands GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 - SIM 1 & SIM 2
3G bands HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
4G bands LTE band 1(2100), 3(1800), 5(850), 40(2300), 41(2500)
Almost unusable in US/Canada for me. Only one LTE band matches my carrier and it's not a good one.
Nobody in USA/Canada will be using this phone. They would have no coverage most of the time.
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Band 5 for lte works with AT&T I believe. Or we will have to wait for them to release a global version for band 4 to work on T-Mobile.

it seems that the Chinese version will be different from this Indian one.
It will change the camera.
So, perhaps, the US/EU version will have more LTE band.

Maximaro said:
Here you can see wich Band´s are with the Device:
https://www.kimovil.com/en/where-to-buy-xiaomi-redmi-note-5-pro
I have the Old Redmi Note 3 and there are much more Bands in it:
https://www.kimovil.com/en/compare/xiaomi-redmi-note-3-pro,xiaomi-redmi-note-5-pro
RN3 are 11 LTE and the RN5Pro only 5 =(
But i mostly need Band 1 so iam happy with that.
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o2 has extended the Band 2 coverage. Now 95% Band 3. I am happy with that.

I Like to buy even with that range. Need to know where it is aviable!?

i hope xiaomi wont be stupid... and make a FULL 4g one (indian:tawain) edition like the redmi note 3 special edition or the redmi note 4 with b20. and like the mi mix 2 has full 4g.
so wait and see for the full 4g version i guess.. cause i wont buy it otherwise and stick to my redmi note 3...

Please tell me if it will work in canada

Hi everyone,
I'm waiting for the international version with the band 20 to come out. Do you think xiaomi will make this device with band 20 (800) or is it useless to wait?

Whyred Global version from kimovil:
Bands:
4G LTE
B1 (2100), B20 (800), B3 (1800), B38 (TDD 2600), B4 (1700/2100 AWS 1), B40 (TDD 2300), B5 (850), B7 (2600), B8 (900)
3G
B1 (2100), B2 (1900), B34 (TD 2000), B39 (TD 1900+), B5 (850), B8 (900)
2G
B2 (1900), B3 (1800), B5 (850), B8 (900)
It has full coverage in Spain. Go to this web https://www.kimovil.com/en/where-to-buy-xiaomi-redmi-note-5-global-64gb and you can easily change the country in the coverage section and it says which network providers works with this phone

GCAF said:
Whyred Global version from kimovil:
Bands:
4G LTE
B1 (2100), B20 (800), B3 (1800), B38 (TDD 2600), B4 (1700/2100 AWS 1), B40 (TDD 2300), B5 (850), B7 (2600), B8 (900)
3G
B1 (2100), B2 (1900), B34 (TD 2000), B39 (TD 1900+), B5 (850), B8 (900)
2G
B2 (1900), B3 (1800), B5 (850), B8 (900)
It has full coverage in Spain.
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Are you sure? i found here (i cant post URL yet, but on geekbuying..."global version 3" i think? please check it out) that it says it has Band 4 but..im not sure if can believe that. can you help me with that?

simonbleu said:
Are you sure? i found here (i cant post URL yet, but on geekbuying..."global version 3" i think? please check it out) that it says it has Band 4 but..im not sure if can believe that. can you help me with that?
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You can get the specs of global version from Indonesian MI official site itself. Check here under network bands. This is the same version that resellers sell through aliexpress, gearbest, banggood etc., Just check the bands you need.
You can also get the chinese variant. It has all bands except band 4 and band 20.

T-Mobile vs. US/Unlocked version

I am planning to get S9 and deciding between getting one from T-Mobile vs. US/Unlocked version direct from Samsung.
First of all, comparing the specs of the respective models I see differences in supported bands (matching ones omitted):
Unlocked:
2G CDMA: CDMA800, USPCS1900
3G UMTS: B8(900)
3G CDMA: BC0(800), BC1(1900)
4G FDD LTE: B17(700), B28(700), B29(700), B66(AWS-3)
4G TDD LTE: B46(5200)
T-Mobile:
3G UMTS: B4(AWS)
3G TD-SCDMA: B34(2010), B39(1880)
4G FDD LTE: B12(700), B66(AWS-3), B71 (600MHz)
How would the absence of these bands affect my coverage/speeds within the US?
My second question is about "WiFi calling". I had a bad experience with Galaxy S6 where Wi-Fi calling feature did not work on Samsung generic ROM and was only available on T-Mobile ROMs. I wonder if they fixed this in newer models.
Besides being unlocked and having less pre-installed software are there are any pros/cons buying form T-Mobile vs. buying from Samsung directly?

The major difference as a T-Mobile customer is that the unlocked US version from Samsung does not support B71 (600mhz). This is T-Mobile's new "big thing" but I suppose it may depend on what city/state you are located in. Find more info on the 600mhz acquisition here: https://www.google.com/search?q=t+m...1.69i57j0l5.3768j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
Users have reported that the S8 unlocked version worked fine with Tmo wifi calling. I assume it'll be the same for the S9.

Nightwind Hawk said:
The major difference as a T-Mobile customer is that the unlocked US version from Samsung does not support B71 (600mhz)..
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Yes it does.
https://www.frequencycheck.com/models/Ar9mx/samsung-sm-g965u-galaxy-s9-td-lte-samsung-star-2
Multiple sites have shown the US unlocked S9/+ supporting bands 66 and 71.
The International Exynos version supports 66 but not 71. https://www.frequencycheck.com/mode...ds-galaxy-s9-td-lte-samsung-star-2?c_id=22151

Superguy said:
Yes it does.
https://www.frequencycheck.com/models/Ar9mx/samsung-sm-g965u-galaxy-s9-td-lte-samsung-star-2
Multiple sites have shown the US unlocked S9/+ supporting bands 66 and 71.
The International Exynos version supports 66 but not 71. https://www.frequencycheck.com/mode...ds-galaxy-s9-td-lte-samsung-star-2?c_id=22151
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I used this source:
https://www.techwalls.com/samsung-galaxy-s9-sm-g960-g965-model-number-differences/
It shows B66 but not B71.

vzaliva said:
I used this source:
https://www.techwalls.com/samsung-galaxy-s9-sm-g960-g965-model-number-differences/
It shows B66 but not B71.
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Look at the comments on that site - you'll see many people reporting errors with the listing. FWIW, they do seem to be fixing the errors on that page once it is brought to their attention.
tl;dr: Take that site with a grain of salt.

According to Samsung support no band 71 for the s9 unlocked, here is the list of supported bands.
B1(2100), B2(1900), B3(1800), B4(AWS), B5(850), B7(2600), B8(900), B12(700), B13(700), B17(700), B18(800), B19(800), B20(800), B25(1900), B26(800), B28(700), B29(700), B30(2300), B66(AWS-3)
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According to Samsung support no band 71 for the s9 unlocked, here is the list of supported bands.
B1(2100), B2(1900), B3(1800), B4(AWS), B5(850), B7(2600), B8(900), B12(700), B13(700), B17(700), B18(800), B19(800), B20(800), B25(1900), B26(800), B28(700), B29(700), B30(2300), B66(AWS-3)
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Here are the bands the t mobile variant supports according the Samsung support.
Connectivity Frequencies and Data Type 2G GSM:
GSM850,GSM900,DCS1800,PCS1900
3G UMTS: B1(2100),B2(1900),B4(AWS),B5(850)
3G TD-SCDMA: B34(2010),B39(1880)
4G FDD LTE : B1(2100),B2(1900),B3(1800),B4(AWS),B5(850),B7(2600),B8(900),B12(700),B13(700),B18(800),B19(800),B20(800),B25(1900),B26(850),B66(AWS-3) B71.
4G TDD LTE: B38(2600),B39(1900),B40(2300),B41(2500)

whats the verdict?? I'm trying to decided on the same issue as well.

Cuda70383 said:
whats the verdict?? I'm trying to decided on the same issue as well.
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Unfortunately the verdict won't be in until it gets into our hands, if band 71 is super important then just get the T-Mobile variant and be done with it. Or if you just prefer less bloat then unlocked probably is the way to go....
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Well, after reading the thread I decided to contact Samsung support, again, to see what they might say today. I contacted live chat support again and this is what they sent me. The bands supported by the Galaxy s 9 unlocked variant.
Sohail M at 7:17, Mar 5:
B1 (2100)
B2 (1900 PCS)
B3 (1800 +)
B4 (1700/2100 AWS 1)
B5 (850)
B7 (2600)
B8 (900)
B12 (700 ac)
B13 (700 c)
B17 (700 bc)
B18 (800 Lower)
B20 (800 DD)
B25 (1900 +)
B26 (850 +)
B28 (700 APT)
B29 (700 de)
B30 (2300 WCS)
B32 (1500 L-band)
B38 (TD 2600)
B39 (TD 1900 +)
B40 (TD 2300)
B41 (TD 2500)
B46 (TD 900)
B66 (1700/2100)
B71 (600)

uzupan said:
Well, after reading the thread I decided to contact Samsung support, again, to see what they might say today. I contacted live chat support again and this is what they sent me. The bands supported by the Galaxy s 9 unlocked variant.
Sohail M at 7:17, Mar 5:
B1 (2100)
B2 (1900 PCS)
B3 (1800 +)
B4 (1700/2100 AWS 1)
B5 (850)
B7 (2600)
B8 (900)
B12 (700 ac)
B13 (700 c)
B17 (700 bc)
B18 (800 Lower)
B20 (800 DD)
B25 (1900 +)
B26 (850 +)
B28 (700 APT)
B29 (700 de)
B30 (2300 WCS)
B32 (1500 L-band)
B38 (TD 2600)
B39 (TD 1900 +)
B40 (TD 2300)
B41 (TD 2500)
B46 (TD 900)
B66 (1700/2100)
B71 (600)
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and if you contact them again I bet they tell you something different..

bkeaver said:
and if you contact them again I bet they tell you something different..
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It is different from what they told me on Saturday.

uzupan said:
It is different from what they told me on Saturday.
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yeah its going to come down to.. either wait till someone has it in there hands to confirm or ot take your chances or just go for the T-Mobile Variant and be done with it..

Decided to peruse the FCC docs for the Galaxy S9, located here: https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...id=iZpmwirNeCdRpxZDqp7ksg==&fcc_id=A3LSMG960U
Specifically the "HAC Key Feature letter" doc, if I'm reading/understanding it correctly, both the SM-G960U and SM-G960U1 (unlocked model if they're following the same model number scheme as last year) will support Band 71 LTE.
I guess direct linking to the doc is not allowed, but you can open it from the link above.

Cuda70383 said:
whats the verdict?? I'm trying to decided on the same issue as well.
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If it does support band 71 LTE what other benefits are their to getting the unlocked version vs a carrier version? Is there any negatives?

When you say "US/Unlocked version", is that carrier-unlocked (use on any operator), or boot-loader unlocked (install custom recovery like TWRP)?
Is there an S9 version that is boot-loader unlocked (Exynos) that supports Band 71 and T-mobile Wi-Fi Calling?

Anyone have experience with a US unlocked one in hand?

timg11 said:
When you say "US/Unlocked version", is that carrier-unlocked (use on any operator), or boot-loader unlocked (install custom recovery like TWRP)?
Is there an S9 version that is boot-loader unlocked (Exynos) that supports Band 71 and T-mobile Wi-Fi Calling?
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US unlocked is only "Carrier Unlocked" there is NO bootloader unlocked version in the US

So im not sure if this is still an active thread.
But on a U1 model, cant we do a "DIAL" code to enable all LTE Antennas?
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US unlocked is only "Carrier Unlocked" there is NO bootloader unlocked version in the US
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What would you consider the TMOBILE S9's then?
are they bootloader locked?
From my experience ATT and VERIZON's s9's are not bootloader locked.
Tmobile and others are.. As with TMOBILE s9's you arent able to flash to an UNLOCKED firmware...

eastsidebiz said:
So im not sure if this is still an active thread.
But on a U1 model, cant we do a "DIAL" code to enable all LTE Antennas?
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What would you consider the TMOBILE S9's then?
are they bootloader locked?
From my experience ATT and VERIZON's s9's are not bootloader locked.
Tmobile and others are.. As with TMOBILE s9's you arent able to flash to an UNLOCKED firmware...
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There is no us carrier S9 that has their bootloader unlocked. The U1 is a us model and it has the bootloader locked as well.. only international models bootloader's can be unlocked
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vzaliva said:
I am planning to get S9 and deciding between getting one from T-Mobile vs. US/Unlocked version direct from Samsung.
First of all, comparing the specs of the respective models I see differences in supported bands (matching ones omitted):
Unlocked:
2G CDMA: CDMA800, USPCS1900
3G UMTS: B8(900)
3G CDMA: BC0(800), BC1(1900)
4G FDD LTE: B17(700), B28(700), B29(700), B66(AWS-3)
4G TDD LTE: B46(5200)
T-Mobile:
3G UMTS: B4(AWS)
3G TD-SCDMA: B34(2010), B39(1880)
4G FDD LTE: B12(700), B66(AWS-3), B71 (600MHz)
How would the absence of these bands affect my coverage/speeds within the US?
My second question is about "WiFi calling". I had a bad experience with Galaxy S6 where Wi-Fi calling feature did not work on Samsung generic ROM and was only available on T-Mobile ROMs. I wonder if they fixed this in newer models.
Besides being unlocked and having less pre-installed software are there are any pros/cons buying form T-Mobile vs. buying from Samsung directly?
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unlocked models works with TMOBILE WIFI CALLING, just no VIDEO CALLING.

Global version 6gb/128gb lte bands question.

I'm getting a lot of conflicting info on the internet. Does the global version 6gb/128gb of this phone use LTE bands 2 4 5 12 and 17? LTE band 12 is very important since I have T-Mobile/MetroPCS.

tdamocles said:
I'm getting a lot of conflicting info on the internet. Does the global version 6gb/128gb of this phone use LTE bands 2 4 5 12 and 17? LTE band 12 is very important since I have T-Mobile/MetroPCS.
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I try to see what bands phone support with LTE discovery but I get only what bands I use now.. look at screenshot

No band 12
LTE FDD B1/B2/B3/B4/B5/B7/B8/B20/B28
LTE TDD: B38/B40
WCDMA B1/B2/B4/B5/B8
GSM: B2/B3/B5/B8
Per Xiaomi store on ali and xiaomi global website
https://www.mi.com/global/redmi-note-8-pro/specs

this is from Amazon say it has 700 band 12 ?????
can anyone that owns the phone confirm this ?
below from Amazon listing
HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 - LTE B1 (2100) B2 (1900 PCS) B3 (1800 +) B4 (1700/2100 AWS 1) B5 (850) B7 (2600) B8 (900) B12 (700 ac) B17 (700 bc) B20 (800 DD) B34 (TD 2000) B38 (TD 2600) B39 (TD 1900 +) B40 (TD 2300) B41 (TD 2500) - Hybrid Dual SIM (Nano-SIM, dual stand-by)

still no info ? updates ?

techhi said:
still no info ? updates ?
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Doesn't look like it'll work for band 12 or 17.
Try using kimovil.com for all phone specs, hasn't let me down yet.

I have here listed of supported LTE bands and carrier aggregation combinations: https://cacombos.com/device?model=M1906G7G

Is anyone willing to buy the Korean Snapgragon S20 Ultra?

It was leaked before but now confirmed that Samsung will release the snapdragon variant of the S20 Ultra (and probably the other ones) in Korea. I'm not sure where the center of gravity is (country) as far as development for these phones, but I know North American members have to buy international anyway. Considering snapdragons are easier to develop for and in some ways superior to Exynos, does anyone think there will be a shift to purchasing these unlocked snapdragon variants? I purchased a Korean Note 8 to get 256gb and unlike the Chinese version the wireless bands are fully compatible in the U.S. (Assuming you're on AT&T or T-Mobile). I'd bet this time Verizon and Sprint would be covered by virtue of the snapdragon modems.

What's the model number of the Korean version

freeza said:
What's the model number of the Korean version
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It's SM-G988N. The Korean variants are the same as the US or European Model number but with an N instead of U or F/FD.
By the way here is a link to the geekbench results for the Korean Variant. This proves the use of the 865 in Korea.
I also found this MSN Korea Article which states the following (Translated):
"Samsung's next-generation flagship smartphone 'Galaxy S20' series is expected to be equipped with 12GB (GB) RAM and Qualcomm Snapdragon 865.
On July 1, the GSM Arena, an information technology (IT) specialized media, reported that three test results of the Galaxy S20, Galaxy S20 + and Galaxy S20 Ultra were captured at the performance test site Geekbench.
The three models identified this time are the Galaxy S20 (SM-G981N / SM-G981U), Galaxy S20 + (SM-G986N / SM-G986U) and Galaxy S20 Ultra (SM-G988N / SM-G988U). N is the Korean version, U is the US model.
In fact, GeekBench has found that all three have 12GB of RAM. At 12GB of RAM, it's three times the size of the iPhone 11 (4GB).
Also noticeable is that the Snapdragon 865 is applied as a mobile application processor (AP) for both the Galaxy S20 Korean and US models. Chinese IT blogger Ivingzhou (@Iceuniverse) posted the results of a Geekbench experiment on his Twitter. This is a good thing. ”
Until last year, Samsung Electronics had Samsung Exynos in Korea and Europe and Qualcomm Snapdragon in countries such as North America. In particular, Samsung Exynos has been applied in the domestic market, from entry-level to flagship models.
Therefore, attention is focused on the background of Samsung's adoption of Qualcomm Snapdragon instead of Exynos. Samsung Exynos series, which came to a level similar to Qualcomm Snapdragon, is said to be caused by the performance gap again compared to Snapdragon 865 in case of Exynos 990.
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Interesting. So it's better to get Korean over hong Kong?

freeza said:
Interesting. So it's better to get Korean over Hong Kong?
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Maybe. Previously there was no reason to get the Chinese version because no one was developing for it. It was bootloader unlocked, but you'd essentially be in the same position as someone with the US version. There were also South American variants that used snapdragon as well. I'm just hoping that with the introduction of a snapdragon variant in Korea, people will be more open to purchasing that one. It's a pretty affluent market that would be into custom development. So that in addition to Americans needing to buy internationally anyway creates the possibility.
I know of a few people that bought Korean variants in the past due to larger capacities (myself included) so it's not *too* far fetched.

davisdlrch said:
It was leaked before but now confirmed that Samsung will release the snapdragon variant of the S20 Ultra (and probably the other ones) in Korea. I'm not sure where the center of gravity is (country) as far as development for these phones, but I know North American members have to buy international anyway. Considering snapdragons are easier to develop for and in some ways superior to Exynos, does anyone think there will be a shift to purchasing these unlocked snapdragon variants? I purchased a Korean Note 8 to get 256gb and unlike the Chinese version the wireless bands are fully compatible in the U.S. (Assuming you're on AT&T or T-Mobile). I'd bet this time Verizon and Sprint would be covered by virtue of the snapdragon modems.
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Are the 5G bands compatible as well?

interesting the Korean versions historically always had exynos, now they went snapdragon?
guess they wanted the superior processor for themselves this year.

Based on this comparison spec sheet from Techwalls, it doesn’t look like the Korean model will support the same 5G bands as the US models (sub 6ghz, mid band, mmwave). Hopefully, this sheet isn’t complete yet.
Search Techwalls.com Samsung Ultra 5G (sorry, new user and can’t post a url yet).

Acutally I live in China but I'm currently using a Korean Variant Galaxy Note10+ 5G, as the Exynos ones have better access to custom stuffs like Magisk, Lineage OS, etc. I have the same confusion as you. Usually the Korean Variant uses Exynos proccecors but this time they went for Snapdragon 865. I'm worrying about if the Snapdragon ones are able to flash custom ROMs and Magisk. I guess I'll just wait. If those great developers start to get Magisk or Lineage OS done on Snapdragon versions, I'll just get a Korean one. If not, I guess I'd better get a Hong Kong variant or Chinese Mainland variant, as they get better 5G support in Chinese Mainland.

Boeing747x said:
Acutally I live in China but I'm currently using a Korean Variant Galaxy Note10+ 5G, as the Exynos ones have better access to custom stuffs like Magisk, Lineage OS, etc. I have the same confusion as you. Usually the Korean Variant uses Exynos proccecors but this time they went for Snapdragon 865. I'm worrying about if the Snapdragon ones are able to flash custom ROMs and Magisk. I guess I'll just wait. If those great developers start to get Magisk or Lineage OS done on Snapdragon versions, I'll just get a Korean one. If not, I guess I'd better get a Hong Kong variant or Chinese Mainland variant, as they get better 5G support in Chinese Mainland.
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Those 2 phones have distinct differences:
SM-G988N(it is Snapdragon apparently)https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/1232050
SM-G988NZAAKOO (Cosmic Gray – 256GB Storage)
SM-G988NZKAKOO (Cosmic Black – 256GB Storage) – 12GB RAM Korea
– SKT
– LG U+
– KT 2G GSM: GSM850, GSM900, DCS1800, PCS1900
3G UMTS, HSPA+: 850, 900, 1700, 1900, 2100 MHz
4G LTE: Bands B1 (2100), B2 (1900), B3 (1800), B4 (AWS), B5 (850), B7 (2600), B8 (900), B12 (700), B13 (700), B18 ( 800), B19 (800), B20 (800), B25 (1900), B26 (850), B28 (700), B66 (AWS-3)
4G TDD LTE: Bands B38 (2600), B39 (1900), B40 (2300), B41 (2500)
5G: Band N78 (3500)
and the other: (Snap -China, HK...)
SM-G9880
SM-G9888 Snapdragon 865 – 12GB RAM China
Hong Kong
Japan
Brazil 2G GSM: GSM850, GSM900, DCS1800, PCS1900
2G CDMA: 800, 1900 MHz
3G UMTS, HSPA+: 850, 900, 1700, 1900, 2100 MHz
3G CDMA: CDMA2000, EV-DO: 800, 1900 MHz
4G LTE: Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 13, 14, 18, 19, 20, 25, 26, 28, 29, 30, 38, 39, 40, 41, 46, 48, 66, 71
5G: Bands n2, n5, n41, n66, n71, n260, n261
sources: https://www.techwalls.com/samsung-galaxy-s20-ultra-5g-model-number-sm-g988-differences/ - lists Korean variant as Exynos, correction needed

mzsquared said:
Those 2 phones have distinct differences:
SM-G988N(it is Snapdragon apparently)https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/1232050
SM-G988NZAAKOO (Cosmic Gray – 256GB Storage)
SM-G988NZKAKOO (Cosmic Black – 256GB Storage) – 12GB RAM Korea
– SKT
– LG U+
– KT 2G GSM: GSM850, GSM900, DCS1800, PCS1900
3G UMTS, HSPA+: 850, 900, 1700, 1900, 2100 MHz
4G LTE: Bands B1 (2100), B2 (1900), B3 (1800), B4 (AWS), B5 (850), B7 (2600), B8 (900), B12 (700), B13 (700), B18 ( 800), B19 (800), B20 (800), B25 (1900), B26 (850), B28 (700), B66 (AWS-3)
4G TDD LTE: Bands B38 (2600), B39 (1900), B40 (2300), B41 (2500)
5G: Band N78 (3500)
and the other: (Snap -China, HK...)
SM-G9880
SM-G9888 Snapdragon 865 – 12GB RAM China
Hong Kong
Japan
Brazil 2G GSM: GSM850, GSM900, DCS1800, PCS1900
2G CDMA: 800, 1900 MHz
3G UMTS, HSPA+: 850, 900, 1700, 1900, 2100 MHz
3G CDMA: CDMA2000, EV-DO: 800, 1900 MHz
4G LTE: Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 13, 14, 18, 19, 20, 25, 26, 28, 29, 30, 38, 39, 40, 41, 46, 48, 66, 71
5G: Bands n2, n5, n41, n66, n71, n260, n261
sources: https://www.techwalls.com/samsung-galaxy-s20-ultra-5g-model-number-sm-g988-differences/ - lists Korean variant as Exynos, correction needed
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Thanks a lot for this piece of info. It seems that Korean variants always get global LTE bands support, but the 5G bands are only for Korea. In China we use 5G Bands n41, n78 and n79. So I guess I'd better get a Chinese Mainland variant or Hong Kong variant.