Develop Bugs

[Request] allow original poster to close his own thread and delete double posts...NOW

Please allow posters to close their own threads and delete double posts. It's ridiculous not to have this feature!!!
What is so harmful about us closing our own threads?
I think it is beneficial, for example:
1) OP feels harassed: closes thread
2) OP learns that there was already another, more prominent thread of the same issue: closes thread
3) OP wants too closes his upcoming software update but doesn't want to read other's post issues that he has fixed on the next version.
etc...
Why can't we close our own threads? Delete our own posts?
For ***sakes look at these threads:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4120834#post4120834
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=535393&highlight=deleted
If you aren't going to implement this then atleast tell us why in the world we can't delete our posts!
Here is my previous thread posted at the wrong forum:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=535157

After reading Mike´s post it is clear that the best and easyest way is to click on the red button asking an experienced Mod to do the action, otherwise it can be a democratic chaos...
Just my opinion.

mikechannon said:
It sounds obvious that you should be able to delete your own posts. However, it can cause chaos! Once you create a thread you do not own it, particularly if other users have contributed posts to the thread.
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I agree, Just because you posted a thread, doesn't mean it's your thread. This is a community with no personal ownership of posts or threads.
mikechannon said:
Deleting the first post in a thread deletes the whole thread. This could be a long running thread with many posts and pages. To allow this thread to suddenly vanish because the OP deletes the first post can upset many contributing users.
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Mike Speaks from Experience here.
mikechannon said:
However, it's relatively easy to have the odd post removed by clicking on the report post (red triangle) that appears on all posts. All you need do is say something like "please delete my double post" or "delete my post it's in the wrong forum" etc etc
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Once again I reinforce Mike's statement. The Mods are here to assist you, please make use of our services.
mikechannon said:
There are also a couple of other fiddly reasons why it's best for a Mod to delete posts - one is that a Mod can also move the post to Trash. You may not know that deleted posts are still visible to Mods and leaving them kicking around forums makes things look very messy to Mods even if other users see a nice tidy board. Another reason not to allow user delete is that a very few users could use this to cover up "provocative posting" or just to cause trouble with other members. (You can imagine for example, that a ROM thread suddenly disappearing because the cook is bored with it could lead to lots of frustration amongst users and extra work for Admin and Mods.)
Just use the report icon or contact a Mod - quick and easy
Mike
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Just basically report to mods is the summation here.

Got a question about deleting a post:
Once a post is deleted, then all posts after it in the same thread will be changed a post#. E.g, if post#2 is deleted, then post#3 became #2, #4 become #3 etc. But if the original post#3 is cross-linked to another thread using the 'view single post' function. In such a case, will the cross-link url address be updated accordingly?

The link will be to the deleted post, no re-shuffle will occur.
The URL is showpost.php and p=4153097 ("p" is the post number, not the thread number, that will be "t").
Here is one I deleted from this thread : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4153097&postcount=6
As a moderator, I can see deleted posts. Try that URL above
Dave

In the above case, seems you deleted the whole thread.This is the url you pointed:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4153097&postcount=6,
And I can not access these:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4153097&postcount=5
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4153097&postcount=7
My question is for example in this thread we are talking in,
if you deleted this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4121794&postcount=3.
But I already crosslinked this post (next one to the deleted) with this url: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4132664&postcount=4.
So my above url will become this post, is that right?
BTW, sometimes I can see the contents of deleted post from a google search result.
Edit: Ok, seems I got it, you said no re-shuffle. That means if #3 deleted, , #5 is still #5, so there is no influance on crosslink address of posts. Thanks.

[25/7/11] New Rules For The Dev Section**Thread Deleted/Locked Please Read **

I'll get straight to the point....
Despite stickys and forum announcements most of us are still finding ourselves becoming terribly, terribly vexed at the amount of [Q]'s cluttering the dev section...
Therefore, from now on, if you do not follow the rules outlined below, you will be infracted. Break them again and you may find yourself unable to post anything at all on any forum!!
[Q]Surely thats a bit harsh aint it??
[A]Not really....
We've tried to be nice about it but that clearly doesnt work.
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If you cannot read and abide by the simple rules in this sticky then I dont know how you're going to manage to hack your device without running into trouble.​
The Dev section is NOT for asking questions.....
The Dev section is NOT for general topics..........
All threads posted MUST be prefixed with a description of the thread, [ROM] / [Kernel] etc etc.....*
*(Not planning on being particuarly strict on this. You guys (the devs), know how to title a thread.... just a pointer for new devs.)
Basically, unless your thread is to actually release something or discuss something of a very technical and n00b unfriendly nature, it doesnt belong here!
Pretty simple really.....
If you see something that shouldnt be here then PM me....
I will try to check in as reguarly as I can but I have a few sections to keep an eye on and believe it or not, a life outside XDA
Yes thats right, there is life outside XDA
Post What Where:
General - general technical discussion items, news, anything else that does not fit into the other fora categories.
Accessories - any items to do with components and/or accessories relating to your device.
Rom Development - only meant for very advanced technical discussion directly related to ROM development activity and the delivery of actual ROMs and ROM components ONLY. Nothing else goes in here.
Themes & Apps - anything to do directly with the development of themes and/or applications. Nothing else goes in here.
MOD EDIT: BEFORE POSTING ANY THREAD IN THE DEVELOPMENT SECTION, PLEASE READ THE FOLLOWING:
If you have developed a ROM, or are working with others to do so, the development forum is somewhere to discuss and share ideas, post useful feedback and logs or crash dumps, and to discuss a common goal developers are trying to achieve.
It is NOT the place to post your question because it gets higher traffic, or because more experienced users frequent it. Doing this just annoys those who are working on the device, and drives them away. Developers don't want to wade through 20 threads of "Help me urgently" to find their threads for porting and fixing camera issues etc. Similarly, if a thread is designated as discussion for developers say, porting a camera fix, please do not post in there asking "When will it be ready?", "Can I flash this yet?" etc. This is both completely disrespectful to those working on the project (you evidently haven't read the important posts in the thread), and also is making it harder for developers to find comments from other developers or testers when required.
Similarly, don't make loads of "Thanks for your work here" posts in an active development thread. It's just as annoying to developers as asking when something will be ready. If a ROM is complete, then go ahead and thank the developer if you wish, but don't go into threads for devs only, and interrupt it to post "thanks". It's basically spamming, and is treated as such.
If you are posting in development, you should have read every sticky and notice there, and should be actively developing or helping in the development of something. Developing isn't installing a ROM, or using a tweak, it's creating a ROM or other hack or tweak. If you haven't read for several days before starting out on XDA, you are likely about to ask something already solved. I registered on XDA when I first wanted to post, and that was to join in a discussion on something. Sure, join up and ask a question, but read the information available in General and Q&A first, as your question will have been asked before. Search is your friend here, become familiar with it.
Regarding when to post in development if you are not actually developing something, there is one occasion where it's acceptable. If you find a leak of a new ROM, which isn't already posted, and you verify it's legitimacy via either running it, or based on the source you obtained it from, then this is assisting in development, and should be posted in development. If you want to ask when a leak will be available use search first, then if not already in discussion, open a thread in general or Q&A.
If you have a problem flashing a ROM, this is NOT related to development. It's up to you to determine if it is specific to a particular ROM, and post useful information in that developer's existing thread for the ROM. If it happens on more than one ROM, and isn't a known issue (remember you should read several times more words than you post), then find out what you are doing wrong. Check guides written by others, try to repeat the problem and see if it happens every time. Something needs to be reproducible to be fixed effectively.
Once you have identified what you need help with go to the device Q&A forum (general if device lacks one), and make a clear, informative thread that explains the issue, and what you have tried doing to fix it. Did you re-download the ROM? Did you ask a friend to flash it for you, to reduce chance of user error? What steps (exactly) did you follow? What errors did you see (exact wording)? Did you double check all the steps? Did you do a wipe or hard reset?
If you make a clear, concise, yet detailed post, you will find help forthcoming, and should get the problem sorted very quickly. If someone suggests you try something, report back on what happened, did it work etc. Then, next time someone has this issue and searches, they will find this and have a verified and tested solution.
So remember... before you start a thread in development, ask yourself what you are developing. If you can't answer, then stop, step away from the post button, and think about where you are posting. Would it be better in General or Q&A, or is some more time with your best friend, search, required?

Hopefully this brings some change to the forum, this site is a great place to learn and develop for everyone no matter what stage of the game your in. There are quite a few people here that really put forth the effort to help others no matter how fundamental the question is and it would be a shame to see XDA take a turn like other forums have in the past.

To: conantroutman
You are my Freakin Hero, Thank You!!! LOL

The annoying thing is, people are STILL not following the rules -_-

GazaIan said:
The annoying thing is, people are STILL not following the rules -_-
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They probably never will but at least now they are being punished so that they either learn from their mistakes or leave...
Sent From My Fingers To Your Face.....

I understand where you are coming from but...yes a bit harsh, so many people come he now and then etc, Just my thoughts. I will post what I deem necessary in what I think the proper thread is. Obviously not going to ask how to flash rom, (which is in developers section) Maybe you should move those topics out to faq or general, it only draws more attention to the dev. section
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conantroutman said:
They probably never will but at least now they are being punished so that they either learn from their mistakes or leave...
Sent From My Fingers To Your Face.....
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This will only drive people away, ban me and I surely will look for another forum and recomend it to my friends, thats the mentallity, because what you have on these forums is also on 3 others, please dont tick off ppl. I personally dont think this is the right approach. Educate people first. I have been admin for several forums, very hostile ones at that, please take some advice.

[Q] disable yellow pop-up previews in forum?

When reading the forums, yellow "previews" of each post pop up anytime the pointer is over any post entry.
This is REALLY annoying. If I want to read a post, I'll click it.
Is there a way to disable these?

You could use an advertising blocker as AdBlock Plus (available for Firefox and Chrome).

Moved to About XDA section.

Megadave123 said:
When reading the forums, yellow "previews" of each post pop up anytime the pointer is over any post entry.
This is REALLY annoying. If I want to read a post, I'll click it.
Is there a way to disable these?
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Many people use obscure thread titles which makes it difficult to decide whether or not to look at a thread. For people such as myself who like to provide people with help that feature is extremely useful for both the reason of obscure threads and simply getting an idea of the OP and generally whether or not the OP could benefit from your help. I in fact used that feature to decide to click on this thread

This is a wonderful place

This is a wonderful place, I have found, downloaded and tried many ROMs here.
This place also help me to improve my technology so well.
So, I can't wait to register.
But after I have some registered, I want to post a new replay in some threads to tell them some bugs of their ROM, like this one , I have been blocked.
So, I have a little bit upset, because I can't wait to discuss the issue with the thread holder.
Please help me to get ten post so that I can post my bug report as soon as possible.

mamkkl said:
This is a wonderful place, I have found, downloaded and tried many ROMs here.
This place also help me to improve my technology so well.
So, I can't wait to register.
But after I have some registered, I want to post a new replay in some threads to tell them some bugs of their ROM, like this one , I have been blocked.
So, I have a little bit upset, because I can't wait to discuss the issue with the thread holder.
Please help me to get ten post so that I can post my bug report as soon as possible.
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You can PM the ROM dev to inform a bug report or a solution if its not already suggested in thread by some other user.. which will be the case usually..
otherwise you can go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=2054 and help other users in Q & A section to get your 10 posts.. please dont create threads to get 10 posts though..

Deadly said:
You can PM the ROM dev to inform a bug report or a solution if its not already suggested in thread by some other user.. which will be the case usually..
otherwise you can go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=2054 and help other users in Q & A section to get your 10 posts.. please dont create threads to get 10 posts though..
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i have to agree with this, PM is the fastest way to inform a bug when you are not allow to post in the thread yet. I have this issue too, even though i have years of experiences in other forums. but rules are rules, have to follow it.:good:

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I have tried a few roms on this site (HTC One V). I have to say many thanks to developers working hard on those roms, because they are all great!

consecutive posts merged

When I reply to two posts in a thread, my posts are merged into one entry. I thought it was based on the amount of time between my posts. I see no warning while composing the second post that this will happen. In particular, "PREVIEW POST" does not show this.
I'm sure I have seen consecutive posts by one person, *not* combined into one post, with timestamps that differ by much less than the difference in timestamps of two of my posts that *were* merged.
Is there some setting I need to use to keep posts separate?

When two posts by one person are replying to different posts in one thread, it is *not* helpful to merge those posts. The target of the second reply is less likely to notice that he received a reply to his post. A reply to the combined post will probably quote *both* replies contained in the combined post, making it harder to tell to which part the third-order post is replying.

IronTechmonkey said:
[Disclaimer]I did nothing to split the last three responses into separate posts, and in fact was intending for them to be in one post. XDA Labs app just posted them that way.
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I thought the merging was done by the server, and would be independent of whether the posting was done using an app or a browser.
Maybe your reputation entitles you to post without being merged.
Do you have the patience to make two posts here using a browser?

J.Michael said:
I thought the merging was done by the server, and would be independent of whether the posting was done using an app or a browser.
Maybe your reputation entitles you to post without being merged.
Do you have the patience to make two posts here using a browser?
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Since within a few weeks XDA will be switching a new app and back-end and (probably also web UI) I would not spend much time troubleshooting the outgoing system but I can share what I've learned in the past.
- Timer: yes, the one hour was what I used to follow when waiting to make a separate post.
- There are some odd little differences between the way merging is handled by Labs app an browser. Timestamps for merged posts in Labs use UMT-0 whereas in browser the stamp corrected for region is used but this does not seem to affect the trigger for when to merge or not merge.
- There have been ways to force a new post which I have occasionally used to seperate a serious bug report or an OT rant from the normal thread discussion.
- As to RC title I don't know of any exception for that but it could be possible.Whatever it is, it is not absolute because there are more times that the posts would be merged than not.
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Having previously posted from a web browser I could not resist seeing what happens with merge now posting a new reply in XDA Labs app.
[EDIT] Interesting. It automatically threaded them. Anyhow it seems that the landscape of this queation has gotten messier perhaps as the XDA maintainers complete the move to the new resources and the old resources to deteriorate so I'm going to put a pin in the map here in case this comes up again in the new interface.

Hi @J.Michael,
I think you should read this old thread (only 2 pages): https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1341333
It will give you some clues why this feature was implemented in the past on XDA.
Prior to my research today, what I had in mind was that it was there for anti-spam purpose, to avoid:
- multiple posts easily and quickly made by a new member trying to increase their post count and then be able to post advertising links, other malicious stuff (info: you can't post links or add attachments when you are below 10 posts)
- members who are just trying to increase their numbers for no reason.
Hence if there is less posts, it is also less work for reporters and then moderators.
In the thread I've linked, you will see that it seems there were other reasons to implement this, like reducing resource usage for instance.
Also this feature is disabled for moderators and admins FYI due to our moderation and maintenance duties.