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I bought this device today.
I got it because I wanted to get into custom ROMs/Root.
Is there anything I need to know about this phone that will be helpful? Tips & Tricks?
Also I hear talk of Lineage OS vs Oxygen. Which is better and why? (Please don't be LINEAGE OF COURSE FTW, I want reasons. Couldn't find that anywhere)
Should I chose Oxygen beta 8.0, or the Lineage beta for 8.0?
Coming from an LG V10 (AT&T) where I couldn't modify it for ****, and broke after a little over a year (LG Bootloop issue)
ZVNexus said:
I bought this device today.
I got it because I wanted to get into custom ROMs/Root.
Is there anything I need to know about this phone that will be helpful? Tips & Tricks?
Also I hear talk of Lineage OS vs Oxygen. Which is better and why? (Please don't be LINEAGE OF COURSE FTW, I want reasons. Couldn't find that anywhere)
Should I chose Oxygen beta 8.0, or the Lineage beta for 8.0?
Coming from an LG V10 (AT&T) where I couldn't modify it for ****, and broke after a little over a year (LG Bootloop issue)
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The ROM you want to use can only be your decision based on what features you want for example if you want loads of tweaking features then I'd suggest resurrection remix and for the very latest android version then oxygen OS or lineage 8.0 both are good in their own ways you'd have to check the description to see which suits your needs , one big tip I can give you though is to always use the latest blu_spark recovery because its been modified to support a variety of ROMs and if your a flashaholic like me then always perform a nandroid backup before switching ROMs its simple advice but can save you loads of time if you don't like the ROM you've chosen and obviously before trying to unlock the bootloader via adb then enable developer options and enable OEM unlocking (some people forget) good luck and enjoy this wicked phone...
Xceeder said:
The ROM you want to use can only be your decision based on what features you want for example if you want loads of tweaking features then I'd suggest resurrection remix and for the very latest android version then oxygen OS or lineage 8.0 both are good in their own ways you'd have to check the description to see which suits your needs , one big tip I can give you though is to always use the latest blu_spark recovery because its been modified to support a variety of ROMs and if your a flashaholic like me then always perform a nandroid backup before switching ROMs its simple advice but can save you loads of time if you don't like the ROM you've chosen and obviously before trying to unlock the bootloader via adb then enable developer options and enable OEM unlocking (some people forget) good luck and enjoy this wicked phone...
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Ah ok thanks for that blu_spark bit, I was just gonna stick with stock kernel, but now I am seeing the benefits of custom ones.
ZVNexus said:
Ah ok thanks for that blu_spark bit, I was just gonna go TWRP since that's all I have heard about, I got drawn in by the LG V10 by marketing, sucked so now going towards a phone that will last. Not having to rely on AT&T for updates is a surefire way to get that.
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I had an LG G4 , great phone but I too suffered the bootloop problem and LG did nothing to refund me so no more LG phones for me , p.s please leave a thumbs up on my posts if I've helped I truly appreciate it and if you need any more help just come back to this post and quote my message and I'll help as best I can ...
ZVNexus said:
I bought this device today.
I got it because I wanted to get into custom ROMs/Root.
Is there anything I need to know about this phone that will be helpful? Tips & Tricks?
Also I hear talk of Lineage OS vs Oxygen. Which is better and why? (Please don't be LINEAGE OF COURSE FTW, I want reasons. Couldn't find that anywhere)
Should I chose Oxygen beta 8.0, or the Lineage beta for 8.0?
Coming from an LG V10 (AT&T) where I couldn't modify it for ****, and broke after a little over a year (LG Bootloop issue)
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Flash Zenity RR as soon as you get a chance! It's an awesome ROM.
ZVNexus said:
Ah ok thanks for that blu_spark bit, I was just gonna stick with stock kernel, but now I am seeing the benefits of custom ones.
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Xceeder was talking about recovery, not kernel. Since this phone is new for you, certain idiosyncrasies of this phone must be learnt. One of them is the recovery. Ofcourse official TWRP is there but it will not work with many custom ROMs. One of the best recoveries for this phone is made by bluspark who is well-known for his kernels. It is that recovery which Xceeder was talking about. I also use the same.
As regards ROMs, apart from what Xceeder stated, if you are satisfied with a smooth and battery friendly ROM, I can recommend VertexOS. But it will not have any bells or whistles. Another battery friendly and smooth ROM with some tweaks built-in is PureFusion. Both these I have used. But if you need many tweaks, go with Xceeder's recommendations. As he said, ROMs are a personal choice and what I like, you may not. So read about a few, flash a few and finalise.
Advance wishes for a happy experience.
tnsmani said:
Xceeder was talking about recovery, not kernel. Since this phone is new for you, certain idiosyncrasies of this phone must be learnt. One of them is the recovery. Ofcourse official TWRP is there but it will not work with many custom ROMs. One of the best recoveries for this phone is made by bluspark who is well-known for his kernels. It is that recovery which Xceeder was talking about. I also use the same.
As regards ROMs, apart from what Xceeder stated, if you are satisfied with a smooth and battery friendly ROM, I can recommend VertexOS. But it will not have any bells or whistles. Another battery friendly and smooth ROM with some tweaks built-in is PureFusion. Both these I have used. But if you need many tweaks, go with Xceeder's recommendations. As he said, ROMs are a personal choice and what I like, you may not. So read about a few, flash a few and finalise.
Advance wishes for a happy experience.
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Ah ok only reason I said kernel was because [kernel] was the first thing that came up when I typed in blu_spark.
Hi all,
I am completely new to the Xiaomi world (I prefer stock Android and easy root usually), but I got an excellent offer to buy this beast today.
I will buy this device, only if the following is possible.
- Unlock bootloader
- Root with Magisk
- Pass Safetynet check
- Install AFWall
- Install Adaway
Has anybody done this yet?
I don't want to know "how" (I can ask/figure out that later). I just want to know whether it is possible/relatively straight forward?
Thanks!
palmdude said:
Hi all,
I am completely new to the Xiaomi world (I prefer stock Android and easy root usually), but I got an excellent offer to buy this beast today.
I will buy this device, only if the following is possible.
- Unlock bootloader
- Root with Magisk
- Pass Safetynet check
- Install AFWall
- Install Adaway
Has anybody done this yet?
I don't want to know "how" (I can ask/figure out that later). I just want to know whether it is possible/relatively straight forward?
Thanks!
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Yes, all done. Very easy and straightforward. Stick to xiaomi.eu roms for best miui experience or latest AICP Oreo treble rom for 95-99% working Android stock experience. Currently on 8.8.9 xiaomi.eu and have all except afwall on mine since I don't use that app.
I recommend the 6gb/128gb from TradingShenzhen with xiaomi.eu installed - it will have unlocked bootloader right out of the box - many of us went with this version. Easiest/best experience.
If you go with any other version, check out my buggy vendor thread to flash to xiaomi.eu rom easily.
opasha said:
Yes, all done. Very easy and straightforward. Stick to xiaomi.eu roms for best miui experience or latest AICP Oreo treble rom for 95-99% working Android stock experience. Currently on 8.8.9 xiaomi.eu and have all except afwall on mine since I don't use that app.
I recommend the 6gb/128gb from TradingShenzhen with xiaomi.eu installed - it will have unlocked bootloader right out of the box - many of us went with this version. Easiest/best experience.
If you go with any other version, check out my buggy vendor thread to flash to xiaomi.eu rom easily.
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Quick follow up question. Is it possible to keep encryption on the userdata partition with the latest TWRP? I really like if my data is encrypted.
opasha said:
I recommend the 6gb/128gb from TradingShenzhen with xiaomi.eu installed - it will have unlocked bootloader right out of the box - many of us went with this version. Easiest/best experience.
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Thanks for the hint!
I guess keeping encryption seems to be possible? Using the unofficial TWRP by @nijel8
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-max-3/development/recovery-twrp-3-2-3-1-nitrogen-t3866084
Right?
Thanks @nijel8 and @opasha ! I am glad we have geniuses like you on this device.
palmdude said:
I guess keeping encryption seems to be possible? Using the unofficial TWRP by @nijel8
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-max-3/development/recovery-twrp-3-2-3-1-nitrogen-t3866084
Right?
Thanks @nijel8 and @opasha ! I am glad we have geniuses like you on this device.
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Encryption is possible. @nijel8 will have more knowledge since he created a modded TWRP. See this thread regarding encryption: https://www.google.com/amp/s/forum.xda-developers.com/mi-max-3/help/encrypt-phone-t3845117/amp/
You are most welcome :highfive:.
Thanks again. I will order now.
Talk to you all again in 720 hours
I got my device today. I like it!! I got the global version 9.6.7.0.
Looks like I "only" need to wait 360 hours to unlock
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I have a three more questions now.
#1 Is there a reason not to use this global 9.6.7.0 ROM (other than the ads). Are there any big bugs in this global version? If not, I will probably start rooting this version first Should I update the global version?
#2 You mentioned
opasha said:
Currently on 8.8.9 xiaomi.eu
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There seem be to many newer versions than that. And also a "MIUI 10.0/10.1 STABLE RELEASE" (oct 24th). Is there a reason you are still on that old version?
#3 I understand not having ARB is better if you need to downgrade (without bricking). Is there a reason to downgrade frequently in the Xiaomi world? Is this because people need to switch back and forth between the Chinese and global ROM? And since I have the global version, can I ignore ARB?
palmdude said:
I got my device today. I like it!! I got the global version 9.6.7.0.
Looks like I "only" need to wait 360 hours to unlock
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I have a three more questions now.
#1 Is there a reason not to use this global 9.6.7.0 ROM (other than the ads). Are there any big bugs in this global version? If not, I will probably start rooting this version first Should I update the global version?
#2 You mentioned
There seem be to many newer versions than that. And also a "MIUI 10.0/10.1 STABLE RELEASE" (oct 24th). Is there a reason you are still on that old version?
#3 I understand not having ARB is better if you need to downgrade (without bricking). Is there a reason to downgrade frequently in the Xiaomi world? Is this because people need to switch back and forth between the Chinese and global ROM? And since I have the global version, can I ignore ARB?
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1) EU is just better (has more features baked in - universal face unlock, theme store, etc), less bloated, and more updated.
2) Stable release is fine, but I just prefer beta updates - faster fixes, more features introduced, and tested more by users = more feedback.
I'm on 8.8.9 eu strictly because:
a) It's pretty flawless for me.
b) If it's not broken why fix it? I haven't seen anything worth jumping ship for.
c) It's NON-ARB; I'll only upgrade to ARB if and once I see a better working pie release (coming soon supposedly) because a data wipe may be necessary. I'll use migrate app (faster than titanium backup) to backup all my apps and then restore them onto the new rom.
3) Honestly, having ARB is not a big issue especially since the updated EU roms are solid. However, my points back in number 2 still stand. You can flash to and back from treble gsi roms on ARB and NON-ARB without any issues. However, no matter what anyone tells you, gsi roms for our phone are not perfect. They're only 95% usable. They are still missing mono speaker, volte, and some other things that some say are working without evidence or thorough testing. @MrColdbird just tested a few of the latest if not all of the gsi roms, and he's in agreement with me - they're almost there, but not 100% yet. Stick to xiaomi.eu roms for a complete rom. Just my humble opinion .
If you have any other questions, just ask. I hope this was informative enough.
@opasha @MrColdbird
Have u guys tried latest AOSPExtended Pie GSI? I loved this rom on my previous device.
https://downloads.aospextended.com/download/treble_gsi/pie_arm64_aonly/AospExtended-v6.0-arm64_aonly-20181117-0000-OFFICIAL.zip
Currently I'm also on 8.8.9 run and waiting for Pie build.
Anyone tried cutting of files from firmwareupdate folder to avoid ARB activation.
I've found solution that cutting firmware folder, leaving only files associated with modem shouldn't break anything and won't trigger ARB. Is it working on latest eu builds?
Files that allegedly have to stay in firmwareupate folder to not trigger arb:
.BTFM.bin
cmnlib.mbn
cmnlib64.mbn
devcfg.mbn
dspso.bin
NON_HLOS.bin
splash.img
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If anyone tested please confirm
opasha said:
If you have any other questions, just ask. I hope this was informative enough.
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Thanks! And yes, this was very informative and helpful! Thanks for your time.
Regarding
> I'm on 8.8.9 eu strictly because ... It's NON-ARB
I was under the impression that EU is non-arb by design?
https://xiaomi.eu/community/threads/do-eu-roms-remove-anti-rollback.47145/#post-451617
I guess I haven't understood this ARB stuff 100% yet? And obviously this is a moving target. Posts only one or two months might be already outdated haha
Having said that, you convinced me about Eu.
And I guess in 15 days there will be new developments anyway (no pun intended).
I recently purchased an tab S4 just an update from my previous Samsung tablet. I was wondering is there more ROMs for this tablet or ROMs currently in development? I noticed theres like 2 ROMs for this tablet. I have a note 8 and I'm currently running deluxerom on and it, and I really enjoy the tweaks and customization I'm able to do. I was looking for a same kind of feature for my tablet. Would greatly appreciate the answers I'm looking for. Thanks!
Mkami said:
I recently purchased an tab S4 just an update from my previous Samsung tablet. I was wondering is there more ROMs for this tablet or ROMs currently in development? I noticed theres like 2 ROMs for this tablet. I have a note 8 and I'm currently running deluxerom on and it, and I really enjoy the tweaks and customization I'm able to do. I was looking for a same kind of feature for my tablet. Would greatly appreciate the answers I'm looking for. Thanks!
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Pretty much zero support. You can get a few 9.0 GSI ROMs to boot, but they all have issues. Mine has been sitting around since it was purchased while still using my old 2014 model.
veekay said:
Pretty much zero support. You can get a few 9.0 GSI ROMs to boot, but they all have issues. Mine has been sitting around since it was purchased while still using my old 2014 model.
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Aww no way!? Really? I excitingly got this tablet cause of the features and thought perhaps there would be amazing ROMs for this particular tablet, but I guess not xD What are GSI ROMs? Also as a desperate attempt would other tablet ROMs work on this s4? Thanks mate!
Mkami said:
Aww no way!? Really? I excitingly got this tablet cause of the features and thought perhaps there would be amazing ROMs for this particular tablet, but I guess not xD What are GSI ROMs? Also as a desperate attempt would other tablet ROMs work on this s4? Thanks mate!
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I had thought the same thing, but it seems the S3 is the last tablet to get real support.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/project-treble/trebleenabled-device-development
Some of the ones for 9 will work, but most features won't work too well, if at all.
You might be able to get another rom to work, I know I had no luck. Even trying ones with similar hardware, they all failed to even flash since the booting numbers are different.
Kind of have to be satisfied with Samsung, half baked custom roms or sell the thing.
Mkami said:
Aww no way!? Really? I excitingly got this tablet cause of the features and thought perhaps there would be amazing ROMs for this particular tablet, but I guess not xD What are GSI ROMs? Also as a desperate attempt would other tablet ROMs work on this s4? Thanks mate!
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First,download "Treble Check" app from playstore & read for your device...
https://www.xda-developers.com/flash-generic-system-image-project-treble-device/
(Some GSIs roms are not compatible with some devices!)
veekay said:
I had thought the same thing, but it seems the S3 is the last tablet to get real support.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/project-treble/trebleenabled-device-development
Some of the ones for 9 will work, but most features won't work too well, if at all.
You might be able to get another rom to work, I know I had no luck. Even trying ones with similar hardware, they all failed to even flash since the booting numbers are different.
Kind of have to be satisfied with Samsung, half baked custom roms or sell the thing.
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Hey Veekay I tried it and you're right unfortunately I came across the same issue as you brother
Now I'm stuck and I need help sorting my device out, was wondering if you knew this issue or could help?
When I got the stock firmware back and then when I flash TWRP with odin after going into TWRP I get 0mb as internal
so when I format and then go back into my load up the screen after SAMSUNG says "verification failed" and then reset
on the bottom. I tried other options as well. Without even wiping on TWRP the devices boots up into the setup wizard for the firmware fine
but after I wipe TWRP so I can get access to my internal drive my samsung boots into that verification reset screen. Got any clue as to how I can
resolve this issue? Thanks a bunch!
daitalos said:
First,download "Treble Check" app from playstore & read for your device...
https://www.xda-developers.com/flash-generic-system-image-project-treble-device/
(Some GSIs roms are not compatible with some devices!)
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Hey! Thanks for your reply, will this work for PIE? I can't downgrade from PIE to OREO
and I don't know if GSI even works properly on my device
Mkami said:
Hey Veekay I tried it and you're right unfortunately I came across the same issue as you brother
Now I'm stuck and I need help sorting my device out, was wondering if you knew this issue or could help?
When I got the stock firmware back and then when I flash TWRP with odin after going into TWRP I get 0mb as internal
so when I format and then go back into my load up the screen after SAMSUNG says "verification failed" and then reset
on the bottom. I tried other options as well. Without even wiping on TWRP the devices boots up into the setup wizard for the firmware fine
but after I wipe TWRP so I can get access to my internal drive my samsung boots into that verification reset screen. Got any clue as to how I can
resolve this issue? Thanks a bunch!
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Have you tried just reloading the latest stock firmware from scratch?
Yup, its unfortunate that there isn't much community support for this device. The Tab S4 is Project Treble supported and a few GSI ROMS do work. But as others have said they are unstable and not for use as a daily driver. We have a few discussion threads here talking about them.
veekay said:
Have you tried just reloading the latest stock firmware from scratch?
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Would that work? If I did that I would still be able to download and install TWRP and have a root? Because of it being PIE
UndeadAnarchy said:
Yup, its unfortunate that there isn't much community support for this device. The Tab S4 is Project Treble supported and a few GSI ROMS do work. But as others have said they are unstable and not for use as a daily driver. We have a few discussion threads here talking about them.
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I am going to do more research on these projects because I really wish there was more ROMs its quite an amazing tablet but the potential with the stock ROM lacks a lot
Mkami said:
Hey! Thanks for your reply, will this work for PIE? I can't downgrade from PIE to OREO
and I don't know if GSI even works properly on my device
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Generic System Image (GSI) list :
https://github.com/phhusson/treble_experimentations/wiki/Generic-System-Image-(GSI)-list
you can try only "Android 9 Pie" official or unofficial gsi roms..
and remember ! Some GSIs roms maybe are not compatible with some devices! you can ask for your device on each thread
(for example look here): https://github.com/phhusson/treble_experimentations/issues/777
(usually this Gsi aosp 9 phh, generally works on most devices...BUT! ask first,and discuss it in the thread)
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pr...vice-development/aosp-9-0-phh-treble-t3831915
daitalos said:
Generic System Image (GSI) list :
https://github.com/phhusson/treble_experimentations/wiki/Generic-System-Image-(GSI)-list
you can try only "Android 9 Pie" official or unofficial gsi roms..
and remember ! Some GSIs roms maybe are not compatible with some devices! you can ask for your device on each thread
(for example look here): https://github.com/phhusson/treble_experimentations/issues/777
(usually this Gsi aosp 9 phh, generally works on most devices...BUT! ask first,and discuss it in the thread)
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pr...vice-development/aosp-9-0-phh-treble-t3831915
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Can I do this without stock ROM and only TWRP? Because having the stock ROM is disabling my twrp to function without wiping and if I wipe than my stock ROM doesn't work
Thanks!
Mkami said:
Can I do this without stock ROM and only TWRP? Because having the stock ROM is disabling my twrp to function without wiping and if I wipe than my stock ROM doesn't work
Thanks!
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Sorry,but I don't understand what do you mean " without stock rom and only twrp"...
you can install a Gsi rom, with two ways
Via TWRP, or Via Fastboot : https://www.xda-developers.com/flash-generic-system-image-project-treble-device/ (Tab S4 is a-only arm64)
for any other question, it is better to ask in the thread : https://forum.xda-developers.com/pr...vice-development/aosp-9-0-phh-treble-t3831915
(read carefully in OP & you can post,every single question there for your device,and you will get certainly help from the developer or from any other user..)
Mkami said:
Can I do this without stock ROM and only TWRP? Because having the stock ROM is disabling my twrp to function without wiping and if I wipe than my stock ROM doesn't work
Thanks!
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You are going to have to just wipe it and start over from square one, unless you made a TWRP backup before starting all of this.
Download and flash the latest stock rom from recovery and then you can load twrp again.
I was looking at the possibility of using GSI's on some devices, and while they can offer new life to older devices, they're not entirely stable all the time unless you're willing to make your own changes. I know Lineage has made some excellent progress, but it's not fullproof yet and I wouldn't try it unless you're willing to not use your device as a daily use device.
I had an extra T-Mobile Revvlry which is basically a rebranded Moto g7 Play that I installed the Lineage GSI image and it works fairly well. However, this is more the exception to the rule and Moto devices, I feel, are far simpler in design vs certain Samsung devices. It also had a ton of trial and error involved for me to get it up and running properly.
Is it possible as the s4 becomes older, more people buy it and Samsung stops releasing official updates that someone will come along and create a ROM for it? Or is it more like Samsung locked the bootloaders and its close to impossible to write a ROM for it? Is it still possible to root the s4?
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Is it possible as the s4 becomes older, more people buy it and Samsung stops releasing official updates that someone will come along and create a ROM for it? Or is it more like Samsung locked the bootloaders and its close to impossible to write a ROM for it? Is it still possible to root the s4?
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Read very carefully without rush ! for " WETA Kernel + Encryption disabler " etc
especially, read the user comments carefully, and ask on the thread for any questions you have..
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-s4/development/recovery-twrp-3-3-0-sm-t83x-t3928278 (Pie version)
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=79483624&postcount=2
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-s4/how-to/guide-sm-t83x-twrp-magisk-t4059227
( Newest Odin v3.14.4 is there : https://dl2018.sammobile.com/Odin3-v3.14.4.zip )
Thanks. I took a quick peak at the roms and kernels in the roms and kernels forum and they are pretty much all abandoned.
Someone did mention that the LOS 16.0 and ArrowOS GSI's work alright but are a bit buggy.
slipnslider said:
Thanks. I took a quick peak at the roms and kernels in the roms and kernels forum and they are pretty much all abandoned.
Someone did mention that the LOS 16.0 and ArrowOS GSI's work alright but are a bit buggy.
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samsung,maybe at the end of july to give the upgrade to android 10....it is very likely to happen I think
yes,all Gsi Roms still have various problems unfortunately...
my opinion is: stay to stock rom for now....you can "uninstall" many applications if you want & without root, via "samsung package disabler"(paid) from playstore, or with this way:
https://beebom.com/how-remove-bloatware-android-without-root/
also,you can Install "NiceLock Downloader Companion App" ,to add some features on your device : https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-9/themes/nicelock-module-download-links-module-t3923844
with this way I operate my device until now..
hello everyone, i want to buy this devie but as i see i cant install twrp!
if i can ask why? is it bc of oneplus or no devs to do it? also thx for all devs
i buy the phone for customs and roms and twrp and rooting and this things, this is my priorities
and is this device fully supported for development? any twrp coming soon?
and what about customs here? is they easy to install?
is this device good for gaming and daily use?
Evon88 said:
hello everyone, i want to buy this devie but as i see i cant install twrp!
if i can ask why? is it bc of oneplus or no devs to do it? also thx for all devs
i buy the phone for customs and roms and twrp and rooting and this things, this is my priorities
and is this device fully supported for development? any twrp coming soon?
and what about customs here? is they easy to install?
is this device good for gaming and daily use?
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What device and firmware?
TheGhost1951 said:
What device and firmware?
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i want to buy normal OP9P
Evon88 said:
i want to buy normal OP9P
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The OnePlus 9 pro is good for customizing!
@Evon88, the fact is, TWRP hasn't been updated to properly support Android 12, at least not on the 9 Pro, and I'm beginning to suspect that it never will be. IMHO, it looks to me like encryption and other issues introduced by Google have simply gotten the best of the TWRP team. I'll be happy to be proven wrong, and will be pleasantly surprised if TWRP is updated to work with Android 12 and above, but right now, that remains in the realm of wishful thinking.
The good news is that the recoveries included with most Android 12 ROMs (based on the AOSP recovery) are functional, and are capable of doing the minimum work of flashing new ROMs and upgrades (i.e. Magisk and Gapps) just like TWRP. They certainly don't have the wealth of features that TWRP has (such as the ability to wipe only the data partition without erasing the media partition; it's either all or nothing), but then, they weren't designed to have them. I keep hoping that someone will take the AOSP recovery and use it as a base for a recovery that includes more of TWRP's features. (I'd do it if I had the knowledge. I'm knowledgeable enough to poke at AOSP and cherry pick features to create a custom ROM, but the intimate knowledge required to work with the recovery code is something I don't have.)
Evon88 said:
hello everyone, i want to buy this devie but as i see i cant install twrp!
if i can ask why? is it bc of oneplus or no devs to do it? also thx for all devs
i buy the phone for customs and roms and twrp and rooting and this things, this is my priorities
and is this device fully supported for development? any twrp coming soon?
and what about customs here? is they easy to install?
is this device good for gaming and daily use?
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You can in fact install and boot TWRP. But you can't do almost anything in it... But this isn't OP9P problem but every phone with Android 12 and encryprion enabled. But as other said, TWRP isn't needed for flashing custom ROMs.
Evon88 said:
i want to buy normal OP9P
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Don't let lack of twrp hold you back. It's a fun phone. I use it for gaming (CODM) on Android 11.2.10.10 just fine. I may end up flashing an old build of crDroid for Android 11 but I'm pretty happy with how everything is set up on regular OOS now and don't want to lose L1 and start back over.
Unlocked bootloader✓
Root/Magisk✓
SafetyNet✓
Netflix, GPay, Banking apps✓
L1 Widevine✓
Real OOS✓
65w charging✓
120hz LTPO✓
No Dual Sim
The tmobile variant is still for sale on ebay at $469 brand new in the box or from OnePlus directly (also Tmo variant) for $499
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@Evon88, the fact is, TWRP hasn't been updated to properly support Android 12, at least not on the 9 Pro, and I'm beginning to suspect that it never will be. IMHO, it looks to me like encryption and other issues introduced by Google have simply gotten the best of the TWRP team. I'll be happy to be proven wrong, and will be pleasantly surprised if TWRP is updated to work with Android 12 and above, but right now, that remains in the realm of wishful thinking.
The good news is that the recoveries included with most Android 12 ROMs (based on the AOSP recovery) are functional, and are capable of doing the minimum work of flashing new ROMs and upgrades (i.e. Magisk and Gapps) just like TWRP. They certainly don't have the wealth of features that TWRP has (such as the ability to wipe only the data partition without erasing the media partition; it's either all or nothing), but then, they weren't designed to have them. I keep hoping that someone will take the AOSP recovery and use it as a base for a recovery that includes more of TWRP's features. (I'd do it if I had the knowledge. I'm knowledgeable enough to poke at AOSP and cherry pick features to create a custom ROM, but the intimate knowledge required to work with the recovery code is something I don't have.)
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Bugscze said:
You can in fact install and boot TWRP. But you can't do almost anything in it... But this isn't OP9P problem but every phone with Android 12 and encryprion enabled. But as other said, TWRP isn't needed for flashing custom ROMs.
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There's a user/team on the >OnePlus 6 & 6T forums<, that has had success with Android 12 and 13 decrypt, I use it on my 6T, and decrypt works flawlessly, I use it to flash Magisk when changing/updating ROMs.
It's Unofficial however, I hope it trickles to other devices.
Appreciative said:
Don't let lack of twrp hold you back. It's a fun phone. I use it for gaming (CODM) on Android 11.2.10.10 just fine. I may end up flashing an old build of crDroid for Android 11 but I'm pretty happy with how everything is set up on regular OOS now and don't want to lose L1 and start back over.
Unlocked bootloader✓
Root/Magisk✓
SafetyNet✓
Netflix, GPay, Banking apps✓
L1 Widevine✓
Real OOS✓
65w charging✓
120hz LTPO✓
No Dual Sim
The tmobile variant is still for sale on ebay at $469 brand new in the box or from OnePlus directly (also Tmo variant) for $499
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thank you sir, what about chinese version? u recommend it? im pro at rooting and customs and msm, if the problem is just roms, i see used chinese new mobile, u recommend me to buy?
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@Evon88, the fact is, TWRP hasn't been updated to properly support Android 12, at least not on the 9 Pro, and I'm beginning to suspect that it never will be. IMHO, it looks to me like encryption and other issues introduced by Google have simply gotten the best of the TWRP team. I'll be happy to be proven wrong, and will be pleasantly surprised if TWRP is updated to work with Android 12 and above, but right now, that remains in the realm of wishful thinking.
The good news is that the recoveries included with most Android 12 ROMs (based on the AOSP recovery) are functional, and are capable of doing the minimum work of flashing new ROMs and upgrades (i.e. Magisk and Gapps) just like TWRP. They certainly don't have the wealth of features that TWRP has (such as the ability to wipe only the data partition without erasing the media partition; it's either all or nothing), but then, they weren't designed to have them. I keep hoping that someone will take the AOSP recovery and use it as a base for a recovery that includes more of TWRP's features. (I'd do it if I had the knowledge. I'm knowledgeable enough to poke at AOSP and cherry pick features to create a custom ROM, but the intimate knowledge required to work with the recovery code is something I don't have.)
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thank you bro for explain, what do you think about chinese OP9P? i can change the rom, 5G i dont care that much, anthing else? is quality the same like hardware and plastic and fiber and this things? i mean phone body and screen
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You can in fact install and boot TWRP. But you can't do almost anything in it... But this isn't OP9P problem but every phone with Android 12 and encryprion enabled. But as other said, TWRP isn't needed for flashing custom ROMs.
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thanks, <3
Evon88 said:
thank you sir, what about chinese version? u recommend it? im pro at rooting and customs and msm, if the problem is just roms, i see used chinese new mobile, u recommend me to buy?
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All of them are made in china and I think will be good quality OnePlus phone. I don't know if they use anything different (except rom). You can change from colorOS to oxygenOS
twrp not needed
vincemue said:
twrp not needed
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Needed, maybe not. Desired, definitely. It can do a lot of things that the stock and AOSP recoveries simply can't (to name just one: it can wipe data without wiping storage, as I mentioned above; stock/AOSP recoveries' "factory reset" wipe destroys everything).
MJPollard said:
@Evon88, the fact is, TWRP hasn't been updated to properly support Android 12, at least not on the 9 Pro, and I'm beginning to suspect that it never will be. IMHO, it looks to me like encryption and other issues introduced by Google have simply gotten the best of the TWRP team. I'll be happy to be proven wrong, and will be pleasantly surprised if TWRP is updated to work with Android 12 and above, but right now, that remains in the realm of wishful thinking.
The good news is that the recoveries included with most Android 12 ROMs (based on the AOSP recovery) are functional, and are capable of doing the minimum work of flashing new ROMs and upgrades (i.e. Magisk and Gapps) just like TWRP. They certainly don't have the wealth of features that TWRP has (such as the ability to wipe only the data partition without erasing the media partition; it's either all or nothing), but then, they weren't designed to have them. I keep hoping that someone will take the AOSP recovery and use it as a base for a recovery that includes more of TWRP's features. (I'd do it if I had the knowledge. I'm knowledgeable enough to poke at AOSP and cherry pick features to create a custom ROM, but the intimate knowledge required to work with the recovery code is something I don't have.)
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I was on LE2127_11_C20 A12 with tarp and root.......the mail reason it worked was no lock screen security. I did try with setting a password is be cause a script to try and make partitions R/W but that put me in a bootloader loop. Went back to 11.2.9.9..
Did you follow a YouTube tutorial step by step guide to see if you made any mistakes?
dartballs said:
Did you follow a YouTube tutorial step by step guide to see if you made any mistakes?
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Who are you asking?
Appreciative said:
Don't let lack of twrp hold you back. It's a fun phone. I use it for gaming (CODM) on Android 11.2.10.10 just fine. I may end up flashing an old build of crDroid for Android 11 but I'm pretty happy with how everything is set up on regular OOS now and don't want to lose L1 and start back over.
Unlocked bootloader✓
Root/Magisk✓
SafetyNet✓
Netflix, GPay, Banking apps✓
L1 Widevine✓
Real OOS✓
65w charging✓
120hz LTPO✓
No Dual Sim
The tmobile variant is still for sale on ebay at $469 brand new in the box or from OnePlus directly (also Tmo variant) for $499
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The Indian variant has dual SIM. Maybe some others variants, too.
I tried Pixel experience but it was giving me issues. Currently on PixelOS and it is working fine. I have not tried any other ROM as it is hassle to backup, restore and then entering password of apps.... Not sure, but perhaps most of the ROMs does not come with Gcam or ANX. So which is the best A13 ROM for Mi 11x with a working ANX or Gcam?
kkoolkaran said:
I tried Pixel experience but it was giving me issues. Currently on PixelOS and it is working fine. I have not tried any other ROM as it is hassle to backup, restore and then entering password of apps.... Not sure, but perhaps most of the ROMs does not come with Gcam or ANX. So which is the best A13 ROM for Mi 11x with a working ANX or Gcam?
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I run the AMAZING Evo-X 7.4 rom, its solid as a rock and works brilliant for me.
I would suggest to check out the Evo-X thread, you might even find me on there
Now the Pain with switching rom is having to re-install all you apps and loosing their data,
as far as i aware there is no A12/A13 Recovery that backs up the complete phone like the Clockwordmod days.
I use a great program called Migrate-GPE it comes in three parts and is FREE, its available on the App store but i have uploaded the version i use, you need to be ROOTED to use this app.
Migrate-GPE saves most of your apps including their data, excluding Banking and Magisk apps,
I love it as it save all my offline maps, battery stats, ect.
Have fun.
johnr64 said:
I run the AMAZING Evo-X 7.4 rom, its solid as a rock and works brilliant for me.
I would suggest to check out the Evo-X thread, you might even find me on there
Now the Pain with switching rom is having to re-install all you apps and loosing their data,
as far as i aware there is no A12/A13 Recovery that backs up the complete phone like the Clockwordmod days.
I use a great program called Migrate-GPE it comes in three parts and is FREE, its available on the App store but i have uploaded the version i use, you need to be ROOTED to use this app.
Migrate-GPE saves most of your apps including their data, excluding Banking and Magisk apps,
I love it as it save all my offline maps, battery stats, ect.
Have fun.
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Thanks for your suggestion. Yes, I came across EvoX and yes, also migrate GPE. Will try after listening to more suggestions
I also tried Evolution-X, but it has a major drawback. If you go back to MIUI it gives you the "find device storage corrupted" error. Also makes your device uncertified. I eventually fixed both these but it was a massive pain.
user0u said:
I also tried Evolution-X, but it has a major drawback. If you go back to MIUI it gives you the "find device storage corrupted" error. Also makes your device uncertified. I eventually fixed both these but it was a massive pain.
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Apparently it does but "find device storage corrupted" error it`s a easy fix as long as you have Twrp Recovery,
As for "Device Uncertified" i might flash MIUI Stock to see if i encounter this issue before return back to EVO-X.
I feel there is no advantage returning to stock due to firmware limitations,
if and when your device needs warranty repair, sending it in with non Miui Firmware installed shouldn`t affect your claim.
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Apparently it does but "find device storage corrupted" error it`s a easy fix as long as you have Twrp Recovery,
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Wish I knew that. Can you explain how it's done? I tried flashing persist using twrp but that didn't fix it in my case.
I went back to miui because I was experiencing battery drain on Evo-X. And maybe it's just me but my eyes felt strained on Evo-X for some reason.
user0u said:
Wish I knew that. Can you explain how it's done? I tried flashing persist using twrp but that didn't fix it in my case.
I went back to miui because I was experiencing battery drain on Evo-X. And maybe it's just me but my eyes felt strained on Evo-X for some reason.
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Hi,
You could check out my post, it worked for me:
Could someone send a dump of persist partition?
I have the error device is not certified with locked bootloader after reflashing the persist partition when it was corrupted (I took persist.img file from fastboot rom). I think that a dump of persist partition from the other poco f3 may solve...
forum.xda-developers.com
With TWRP/OF Recovery installed download and install TWRP Recovery 3.6.2 12 POCOF3 v6.3 A12-alioth-skkk from recovery,
download and unzip find device storage corrupted your device is unsafe now please note this is for EEA Firmware only.
In TWRP Recovery tap on the "New Persist image from Original Rom" folder and then open Persist.img folder and then from TWRP tap Install Image, select Persist.img and then tap the Persist.img checkbox in TWRP and swipe right,
Reboot,
Job done
I WAS PREVIOUSLY RUNNING EVO-X V7.4,
AS A TEST I JUST INSTALLED STOCK
"Alioth_eea_V12.5.6.0.RKHEUXM_07-09-2021.FASTBOOT-11.0" FIRMWARE OVER THE TOP
AND I DIDN`T GET THE "find device storage corrupted" POP UP
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AS A TEST I JUST INSTALLED STOCK Alioth_eea_V12.5.6.0.RKHEUXM_07-09-2021.FASTBOOT-11.0 FIRMWARE
AND I DIDN`T GET THE "find device storage corrupted" POP UP
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Man i did it 1000 times before, and never ever get like that issue or any issues. + in logically if u changed from stock firmware to any custom rom and back again to stock firmware nothing will changing or happening
CRNO said:
Man i did it 1000 times before, and never ever get like that issue or any issues. + in logically if u changed from stock firmware to any custom rom and back again to stock firmware nothing will changing or happening
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Well i actually switched to crDROID for about a week, while using crDROID and replying to posts on XDA a user pointed out the "Device Storage" issue and portioned the blame at the Evo-X rom, as a test i downgraded from crDROID back to stock "eea_V12.5.6.0.RKHEUXM" firmware and yes i received the "NAG SCREEN"
Using the above method I installed a new Persist.img and the nag screen disappeared.
As their was a rumor still going around blaming Evo-X,
again as a test i downgraded to "eea_V12.5.6.0.RKHEUXM" over the top of Evo-X V7.4 that i`ve been using for a week and the nag screen wasn`t present ,
I the Evo-X rom its AMAZING
johnr64 said:
I run the AMAZING Evo-X 7.4 rom, its solid as a rock and works brilliant for me.
I would suggest to check out the Evo-X thread, you might even find me on there
Now the Pain with switching rom is having to re-install all you apps and loosing their data,
as far as i aware there is no A12/A13 Recovery that backs up the complete phone like the Clockwordmod days.
I use a great program called Migrate-GPE it comes in three parts and is FREE, its available on the App store but i have uploaded the version i use, you need to be ROOTED to use this app.
Migrate-GPE saves most of your apps including their data, excluding Banking and Magisk apps,
I love it as it save all my offline maps, battery stats, ect.
Have fun.
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1. Does it support turbo charging?
2. How is overall battery life?
3. Which cam application does it use? Basic or something like Gcam or MIUI stock ones?
4. What other issues you have come across?
Thanks
Hi,
1. Fast charging works great, but then i use a QI wireless charging adaptor, check out my post on the Poco F3 thread.
2. My phone last me around 9 hours, as i`m not a massive phone user,
I charge my phone from 45% to 65%, this give me enough charge for a day and generates 0.02 cycles of battery wear, the amazing Evo-X rom has the "Smart Charging" function.
3. Not to Shure about the stock camera as i have three different apps running,
it think it`s org.lineageos.aperture Version code 33.
4. When starting from a clean install Every thing works great, I haven't encountered any FORCE CLOSE issues
5. THIS ROM IS AMAZING, IF IN DOUBT CHECKOUT OUT THE OFFICAL TELEGRAM PAGE,
EVO-X SIMPLY AMAZING
johnr64 said:
Hi,
1. Fast charging works great, but then i use a QI wireless charging adaptor, check out my post on the Poco F3 thread.
2. My phone last me around 9 hours, as i`m not a massive phone user,
I charge my phone from 45% to 65%, this give me enough charge for a day and generates 0.02 cycles of battery wear, the amazing Evo-X rom has the "Smart Charging" function.
3. Not to Shure about the stock camera as i have three different apps running,
it think it`s org.lineageos.aperture Version code 33.
4. When starting from a clean install Every thing works great, I haven't encountered any FORCE CLOSE issues
5. THIS ROM IS AMAZING, IF IN DOUBT CHECKOUT OUT THE OFFICAL TELEGRAM PAGE,
EVO-X SIMPLY AMAZING
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You tempt so much for the ROM .... wondering you are into marketing? LoL. just kidding. Everything is downloaded - ROM, FW, Migrate GPE - all set to go. I will do it over weekend
kkoolkaran said:
You tempt so much for the ROM .... wondering you are into marketing? LoL. just kidding. Everything is downloaded - ROM, FW, Migrate GPE - all set to go. I will do it over weekend
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I`ve been playing/experimenting with customs roms for over 10 years starting with the HTC Wildfire, i then moved on to the early Samsungs Pre KNOX and then on to LG phones, i still have my LG G7.
I have seen the evolution of Android over the years and it`s been mind blowing and the quality of Custom rom`s and their Dev`s is outstanding.
I choose to upgraded my G7 as LG unfortunately left the smartphone market and custom roms were getting scarce, so i settled on the F3 because it was easy to unlock, had Great specs and dev support, also being one of the most popular xiaomi phones on XDA helps and it was great value for money.
I have run maybe 6 major roms as my daily driver over the last 13 months that I have owned the F3, I have also tested maybe another 10 - 15 roms out of curiosity.
I have found that EVO-X is the most polished rom that i have come across with all the major feature that most users need and i like to give credit when credit it`s due.
EVO-X 7.4 Simply Amazing
johnr64 said:
I`ve been playing/experimenting with customs roms for over 10 years starting with the HTC Wildfire, i then moved on to the early Samsungs Pre KNOX and then on to LG phones, i still have my LG G7.
I have seen the evolution of Android over the years and it`s been mind blowing and the quality of Custom rom`s and their Dev`s is outstanding.
I choose to upgraded my G7 as LG unfortunately left the smartphone market and custom roms were getting scarce, so i settled on the F3 because it was easy to unlock, had Great specs and dev support, also being one of the most popular xiaomi phones on XDA help and it was great value for money.
I have run maybe 6 major roms as my daily driver over the last 13 months that I have owned the F3, I have also tested maybe another 10 - 15 roms out of curiosity.
I have found that EVO-X is the most polished rom that i have come across with all the major feature that most users need and i like to give credit when credit it`s due.
EVO-X 7.4 Simply Amazing
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Do u by any chance know of MIUI13 ROM which allow smart unlock feature? I know through custoMIUIzation module i can do it, but i was just wondering if someone has optimized MIUI13 for Mi11x with such features unblocked to save the hassle.
I have installed EVO-X and it is good. But i miss "Themes" feature of MIUI which changes over all skin of the phone with so many options to search for. What i like the most that it changes wallpapers, icon, system setting, lockscreen, colors etc in one go. I tried to find an alternative app and even tried installing MIUI's theme module but to no avail. TBH i am only missing that feature.
bliss Rom allows it, I am on 16.2 build and it's perfect for me. My favorite rom in general is crdroid, but last version of bliss Rom hits all my criterias (hbm, power toggle for torch, really smooth and good battery backup...). It is a pity it lacks visibility here