charging cables worked on s8, but not pixel xl 2? - Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers

All my cables home and car that fast charged my s8, won't fast charge my pixel XL 2. I don't get it and was wondering why. Only thing that works is obviously the oem charger and my Chromebook plus charger. Any ideas? Sucks to buy new stuff over again but want to make sure I get the right stuff if I buy new chargers.

Pixel uses Power delivery fast charging which sucks.
S8 uses Qualcomm quick charge. Your charger probably has QC but not PD

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Why can't I get Quick Charge working

So I have a qc3 outlet and battery from Anker neither will fast charge the phone using any of the cables including the og cable with the USB adapter provided or with the latest set of cables I purchased.
AUKEY USB C Cable 3ft Braided , [3 Pack] USB C 3.0 Type C Cable Fast Charge for Samsung Note 8 S8/S8 Plus, LG V20 G6 G5, Google Pixel 2/2 XL, HTC 10 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01C2NNG12?ref=yo_pop_ma_swf
...But when using my old Motorola qc2 cable and brick it does qc. What am I missing?
Right in the reviews people say they dont fast charge sometimes. One guy said to flip it 180 degrees and see if it works. You get what you pay for with these cheap cables.
thisguy159 said:
So I have a qc3 outlet and battery from Anker neither will fast charge the phone using any of the cables including the og cable with the USB adapter provided or with the latest set of cables I purchased.
AUKEY USB C Cable 3ft Braided , [3 Pack] USB C 3.0 Type C Cable Fast Charge for Samsung Note 8 S8/S8 Plus, LG V20 G6 G5, Google Pixel 2/2 XL, HTC 10 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01C2NNG12?ref=yo_pop_ma_swf
...But when using my old Motorola qc2 cable and brick it does qc. What am I missing?
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Strange, I didn't think this phone supported the QC charging standard as it uses PD instead. And as far as I know, they're not cross compatible. But I've been wrong before...
i dont think these cable support fast charging for Pixel and only way to get fast charging is with using USB-C cable that has PD support.
I can't even get fast charging with the included Charger and Cable.....
Mine fast charged consistantly with included charger and PD charger I got off Amazon. Until February update. Now I'm only getting 480mah during charge. My daughter's Nexus 5x gets 1700mah during charge.
MasterTB said:
I can't even get fast charging with the included Charger and Cable.....
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Is this a new issue or have you had it all along? Did you modify anything with your phone before this started?
thisguy159 said:
So I have a qc3 outlet and battery from Anker neither will fast charge the phone using any of the cables including the og cable with the USB adapter provided or with the latest set of cables I purchased.
AUKEY USB C Cable 3ft Braided , [3 Pack] USB C 3.0 Type C Cable Fast Charge for Samsung Note 8 S8/S8 Plus, LG V20 G6 G5, Google Pixel 2/2 XL, HTC 10 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01C2NNG12?ref=yo_pop_ma_swf
...But when using my old Motorola qc2 cable and brick it does qc. What am I missing?
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What you are missing is, that this phone is not compatible with QC standards,
Pixel using USB PD, just like on Nexus 6p and 5x, also like what being used by apple on iPhone X and their new macbook.
If you want quick charge pixel phone. Buy USB PD charger, and USB C to C cable that support PD as well, not QC charger.
Anker has several models supporting PD, but in term of price, Choetech or Aukey might be better option, am using choetech myself.
Or you can get nexus 6p/5x charger instead for just 7 bucks. It even inc USB C-C cable.
If you feel adventurous, you can even buy Apple 30W USB PD charger for 40 bucks, it will fast charge ypur pixel as well.
So is there a battery pack that would work with this and maybe an outlet. This is rather frustrating one of the reasons I got rid of op 5t which had amazing charging but proprietary. This is not as limited but still bs.
thisguy159 said:
So is there a battery pack that would work with this and maybe an outlet. This is rather frustrating one of the reasons I got rid of op 5t which had amazing charging but proprietary. This is not as limited but still bs.
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Actually USB PD in term of product cost and availability is even more BS. Its easier to buy dash charger , and it even cheaper.
If you need a battery pack that support PD, you can get one from ANKER, but the price is simply amazing. I think its around $100 for the battery pack.
As for outlet brick, you can get choetech for around $11 inc cable. Or find nexus charger for around $7. Aukey and Anker outlet would cost you around $15-30
QC is proprietary as well. PD is the only universal standard, but Qualcomm has invested too much money into QC to make the switch now. One day, Google is going to force PD compliance for all Android builds. Until then, be patient or accept the fact that early adapters like us will simply pay more until prices come down.

So... how it is with the charging, exactly? -- USB-C and wireless charging question

I am wondering about charging options for G7 and ask about two particular which I am most interested about.
1. Immediately when I got it I thought "cool, let's charge it a bit, let it sip a bit of a power from USB-C from the desktop", however there came the surprise No.1 - G7 is not fast charging, my 6P is (6P charges in 1 hour and something), G7 reported over 3 hours to charge.
How to fast charge the G7 from USB-C? I have a capable HW for that and Nexus 6P works that way.
2. I saw some mentions here that G7 supports 10W if not even 15W wireless charging, is that info verified? I am planning on buying a wireless charger (one at home, one at work), but I would like to know if there is pretty much any reason to buy 10 or even 15W chargers.
dropadred said:
I am wondering about charging options for G7 and ask about two particular which I am most interested about.
1. Immediately when I got it I thought "cool, let's charge it a bit, let it sip a bit of a power from USB-C from the desktop", however there came the surprise No.1 - G7 is not fast charging, my 6P is (6P charges in 1 hour and something), G7 reported over 3 hours to charge.
How to fast charge the G7 from USB-C? I have a capable HW for that and Nexus 6P works that way.
2. I saw some mentions here that G7 supports 10W if not even 15W wireless charging, is that info verified? I am planning on buying a wireless charger (one at home, one at work), but I would like to know if there is pretty much any reason to buy 10 or even 15W chargers.
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1. The desktop usually doesn't support fast charging. You need a phone charger that supports fast charging. The one included in the box will charge the phone for 1 and a half hours. You can of course buy a new one.
2. Any wireless charger will work but it won't charge fast. I tried Samsung's fast wireless charger but it charged the phone slowly. I would say, just use a cable if you're on a hurry and maybe a wireless charger when you're not using your phone.
But the thing is, Nexus 6P can, it is even stating it is fast charging via the very same USB-C port and cable, so naturally I am wondering why G7 is not.
Right now, G7 is being charged from USB-C just as long (considering what the estimation at the bottom of the screens is) I reckon would be charged via 5W wireless charger. I have dismissed the idea of more powerful charger, I don't need it, for that I don't mind it would be charging even over 3 hours.
And here's an example of how even though its a USB C port on the phone, not all features are implemented equally. Its either looking for some sort of resistance on the line in the cable or something else similar to that, as my Anker cables won't fast charge the G7 but will fast charge my Moto Z Play on my computer (which has the right port specs to support fast charge). If you look at the supplied cable with the G7, you'll notice that only one side of the C connector has contacts, and even then its a small amount of contacts that don't cover the whole side. more than likely the USB C cable you are using is fully built out so the phone is probably deciding that it won't quick charge when a fully spec'd C cable is used.
that's just my speculation
Nexus 6P doesn't support Qualcomm QC at all. LG G7 does.
Nexus 6P uses Quick Charge based on USB-C technology.
Different phones, different technology, different story.
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2. Any wireless charger will work but it won't charge fast. I tried Samsung's fast wireless charger but it charged the phone slowly. I would say, just use a cable if you're on a hurry and maybe a wireless charger when you're not using your phone.
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Because Samsung wireless chargers use their own proprietary standard but not industry Qi which G7 is supported. G7 needs Qi capable fast wireless charging pad to enable 15W mode
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How to fast charge the G7 from USB-C? I have a capable HW for that and Nexus 6P works that way.
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Seems like Nexus 6P is capable of USB-C Power Delivery standard and G7 somehow is not. That's sad since I was hoping to buy one Anker or Aukey USB-C PD capable brick to charge G7 as fast as in can.
dropadred said:
2. I saw some mentions here that G7 supports 10W if not even 15W wireless charging, is that info verified? I am planning on buying a wireless charger (one at home, one at work), but I would like to know if there is pretty much any reason to buy 10 or even 15W chargers.
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As for fast wireless chargers somebody should open a thread in https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g7-thinq/accessories about choosing fast wireless chargers. Like this one which is stated as supporting LG V30 with Qi EPP

Charger compatibility

Hi pixel owners.
I have 3 xl without it original charger, I used instead a Sony one (2.0) and Huawei 2.0 and dash charge (5v 4A)
All of them charges my phone about 1300mAh. The phone doesn't read it as a fast charge.
I used the same chargers and cable on other phones and it all works.
Should it be the original or what
Pixel line up charges over USB Power Delivery protocol. Our 3's XL charge up to 18W with the original charger.
I currently use the original one and a Motorola TurboPower from a Z2, which achieves 15W charging, not bad at all.
Haven't noticed changes between my cables.
STALKER18 said:
Hi pixel owners.
I have 3 xl without it original charger, I used instead a Sony one (2.0) and Huawei 2.0 and dash charge (5v 4A)
All of them charges my phone about 1300mAh. The phone doesn't read it as a fast charge.
I used the same chargers and cable on other phones and it all works.
Should it be the original or what
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In order to get fast charging you need a charger that supports Power Delivery (PD). It doesn't need to be a Google charger. There are many other choices out there. Same thing goes with a power bank. If you want to get fast charging, you need a power bank that supports PD *output*. There is also an "Accessories" forum here where chargers are discussed ad nauseum.

45W Compatible Charging Bricks?

I know the phone hasn't hit the streets yet, HOWEVER, does anyone know of any cheap 45W chargers that will be compatible with the Note 10+?? I know probably any 45W charger would do, but are any better than the others?
The is the one I was looking at...
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071911MG5/ref=sspa_dk_detail_3?psc=1&pd_rd_i=B071911MG5&pd_rd_w=MVY9A&pf_rd_p=8dbd62ec-d8d3-48e5-b85d-16f701719d81&pd_rd_wg=iEfBW&pf_rd_r=S5BV307RMXWYY7Y4JVYK&pd_rd_r=1b671bb1-6734-47bb-aa06-9d2159dac970
Saw this recommended on AP
https://www.amazon.com/Nekteck-Cert...y-MacBook/dp/B071Z959VX/?tag=androidpolice-20
I have one that i just got. But its a multi voltage one. Goes up to 15v.
I just dont know if it will do the super fast charging or jist fast charging.
I will find out when the phone comes
i need a 45w charging power bank.
Does 45W destroy the battery over time?
Personally, i'm looking for a charger with at least two and preferably three 45w+ Type-C PD ports, with a couple of 18w USB-A ports as well.
Anker have the Atom PD4, but it seems to be as rare as rocking horse poop at the moment.
I have the Huawei MateBook X Pro laptop and it has a 65w intelligent charger.
It fast charges my S10+ perfectly so I'm going to try it once I get my Note 10+ before buying a new one.
stakan said:
Does 45W destroy the battery over time?
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no.
Before I switched back to the iPhone, this is what I loved about my Note 9, being able to use my 87w Apple MacBook Pro charger to charge my Note.
Is the Samsung official 45w charger that will be coming out soon special in some way to trigger this fast charging mode? Or do any 45w or higher chargers work?
Also, does anybody know if the Note 10+ supports the smart charging logic that Apple has in iOS 13, where it doesn't top off the phone every time (to prolong overall battery health)?
I have a 40W charger from my old huawei mate20 pro however it outputs 10V 4A max which isn't a standard thing. Will the note10+ utilize that kind of rating or will I be stuck with the charger's lower rating which is 18W (9V, 2A).
Edit: Guess no one would actually be able to answer this right now, I'll just have to try it myself when the phone arrives.
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As soon as I get my phone I'll try the power adaptater from my dual wireless charger. This is a 45w brick....
Update on the 45w power brick..
https://www.androidpolice.com/2019/08/13/galaxy-note10-plus-45w-charging/

can i use samsung fast charger for google pixel 2xl

hey guy, I bought a pixel 2XL last 2 weeks and I didnot have fast charge adapter of google so i used adaptive fast charging of samsung. Is it OK? because when i took that phone, i checked it have 3200mAh and after two weeks, now it have 3150 mAh on battery. I want to know that pixel 2xl fast charging is possible with Samsung fast charger
If I recall correctly is not compatible, you may not charge at low speeds but I highly doubt it's using fast charge. The Pixel 2 XL uses USB C Power Delivery 2.0 for fast charging, most Samsung phones use propietary Qualcomm's Quick Charge technologies which are not compatible between them.
I've used a generic fast charge charging block with my 2XL and I get the "fastcharging" notification, so I'd presume it would work.
Don't ever use any other adapter that didn't support for Power Delivery. It will broke the charging port or some IC power, anything like that. Just saying. Better take 3rd party like anker or aukey that support PD.

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