Tab S4 coming soon? - Galaxy Tab S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Found an article that mentions the Tab S4 may be announced along with the S9 soon. My Tab S1 is going on 4 years old and still working great but I may be attempted to upgrade. According to the article, they are going back to the original 10.5" size and it will have 64gb of ram. The 16gb of ram on my Tab S1 for me is the only downside. See link. http://bit.ly/2Gpb8Ag
Sent from my SM-T800 using XDA-Developers Legacy app

4Gb of ram, 64 Gb internal memory...

motfis said:
4Gb of ram, 64 Gb internal memory...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ooops, thanks for the correction. That's what I meant.
Sent from my SM-T800 using XDA-Developers Legacy app

Any information if Tab S4 will have an microSD Card Slot?
I guess it will have because everything else would make absolutely no sense.
What will be interesting is that all models will have a snapdragon CPU which means that it will be much more easy to
build custom ROMs :good:
Hopefully the battery will be as big as the battery from Tab S.
regards

So what aspect ratio will the screen be, the hated 4:3 or the loved 16:10 or even 16:9

Tinderbox (UK) said:
So what aspect ratio will the screen be, the hated 4:3 or the loved 16:10 or even 16:9
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Let's hope it's a ratio starting with 16...

If you had read the article further, it does say what the screen ratio is:
Bizarrely enough, the SM-T835 is listed with 2560 x 1600 screen resolution and a 10.5-inch size, compared to 9.7 inches and 2048 x 1536 pixels for both the Tab S3 and Tab S2. That may sound like a small upgrade of sorts, but it’s actually just a return to the family’s 2014 roots. That’s right, the OG Galaxy Tab S came with a 10.5-inch 2560 x 1600 Super AMOLED panel.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
And that, my friends, amounts to an aspect ratio of 16:10!
I also own the OG Galaxy Tab S in 8.4 inch form. If the S4 comes in this size, I'm gone to to shops yesterday!

i been waiting for 8.4inch version, but it seems like Samsung is not going to release one.. Tab S 4 is nearly here and no word on 8.4 it's always 9.7 or 10.5 like they are kind of following Apple! That Sucks!!!

The problem with the S4 is that it's going to be another six hundred dollar tablet. Can't justify paying so much for a device I use so little. A decent spec Android tablet should be costing around 300USD. But seeing how the new Huawei Mediapad M5 will no longer have headphone port, I guess I'll just give up on the regular Android tablets and just buy an Amazon Fire 10 HD tablet (which is flawed, but at least it's also cheap).

N1NJATH3ORY said:
i been waiting for 8.4inch version, but it seems like Samsung is not going to release one.. Tab S 4 is nearly here and no word on 8.4 it's always 9.7 or 10.5 like they are kind of following Apple! That Sucks!!!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I love the smaller tabs too. I own 4 Samsung tabs and ended up taking a chance on a 8.4 mediapad3. Beautiful 16:10 screen, not much development but realitively easy to root.
Sent from my SM-G950F using XDA

tensux said:
I love the smaller tabs too. I own 4 Samsung tabs and ended up taking a chance on a 8.4 mediapad3. Beautiful 16:10 screen, not much development but realitively easy to root.
Sent from my SM-G950F using XDA
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ahh man thanks for the suggestion just checked specs its LCD display i don't like LCD display devices its OLED all the way

N1NJATH3ORY said:
Ahh man thanks for the suggestion just checked specs its LCD display i don't like LCD display devices its OLED all the way
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
thats what i thought too, but you wouldnt believe the screen on it, much clearer and lifelike than my samsung tabs, holding them side by side i have questioned everything i thought about OLED, though i wouldnt trade my LG OLED tv in for anything

Related

8.4 or 10.1?

I'm looking at the galaxy tab pros as my next tablet, I'm trying to decide between the 8.4 or 10.1. I currently have a transformer tf700, so I'm used to 10.1, but I'm thining the smaller 8.4 being lighter may be more comfortable to use (I've always thought 7" tabs were too small, but 8.4 may be my sweet spot). My main uses are videos, comic books, and browsing.
Does anyone with experience have any opinions? It looks like the 10.1 has a better processor and maybe a better battery. If i get the 8.4 and decide its too small i can always exchange, but thought i would ask here to see if anyone has played with both and their thoughts (i had limited exposure to them at best buy but they are tethered to the displays so really hard to get a feel for them).
Thanks!
I picked up the 8.4 and while it's perfect for me...it probably won't be for you. Browsing and comic books are REALLY small on the 8.4 inch screen, given that the resolution is so high. A lot of the apps do not allow for the system to override the tiny fonts, so it's tough to deal with sometimes. It's perfect for what I need it for...twitter, RSS feeds and some web browsing but if I was looking at magazines or comics, I'd pull out my iPad Air.
dbdynsty25 said:
I picked up the 8.4 and while it's perfect for me...it probably won't be for you. Browsing and comic books are REALLY small on the 8.4 inch screen, given that the resolution is so high. A lot of the apps do not allow for the system to override the tiny fonts, so it's tough to deal with sometimes. It's perfect for what I need it for...twitter, RSS feeds and some web browsing but if I was looking at magazines or comics, I'd pull out my iPad Air.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That was what I was afraid of. The app I use on my transformer allows resizing of the page, so I resized to what I measured out to be an 8.4" screen size and it still appeared very readable, but I'm not sure how accurate of a representation that really was.
mattbooty said:
I'm looking at the galaxy tab pros as my next tablet, I'm trying to decide between the 8.4 or 10.1. I currently have a transformer tf700, so I'm used to 10.1, but I'm thining the smaller 8.4 being lighter may be more comfortable to use (I've always thought 7" tabs were too small, but 8.4 may be my sweet spot). My main uses are videos, comic books, and browsing.
Does anyone with experience have any opinions? It looks like the 10.1 has a better processor and maybe a better battery. If i get the 8.4 and decide its too small i can always exchange, but thought i would ask here to see if anyone has played with both and their thoughts (i had limited exposure to them at best buy but they are tethered to the displays so really hard to get a feel for them).
Thanks!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have the Note 2014 and the 8.4. The Note is similar to the Pro 10 without KK. I had the Nexus 7 and the 8.4 is the sweet spot because the Nexus was a bit to small. The Note 2014 is great but not as easily portable. As far as speed of processors, the Exynos is slightly faster CPU and the Snapdragon 800 has a bit better GPU. They are very close speed wise.
nrage23 said:
I have the Note 2014 and the 8.4. The Note is similar to the Pro 10 without KK. I had the Nexus 7 and the 8.4 is the sweet spot because the Nexus was a bit to small. The Note 2014 is great but not as easily portable. As far as speed of processors, the Exynos is slightly faster CPU and the Snapdragon 800 has a bit better GPU. They are very close speed wise.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm thinking since i know what a 10.1 is like I'm going to grab the 8.4 with the idea that i can try it out and if I'm unhappy with the smaller size i can exchange it for the 10.1. If i just get the 10.1 i'll always wonder if the 8.4 would have been better.
Thanks!
mattbooty said:
I'm thinking since i know what a 10.1 is like I'm going to grab the 8.4 with the idea that i can try it out and if I'm unhappy with the smaller size i can exchange it for the 10.1. If i just get the 10.1 i'll always wonder if the 8.4 would have been better.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's a pretty good strategy...one I always live by with technology. Let us know how it turns out!
dbdynsty25 said:
That's a pretty good strategy...one I always live by with technology. Let us know how it turns out!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Will do. I'm not sure my time frame on picking it up yet, but when I do I will post my impressions.
How much of a difference will the 2GB vs the 3GB of Ram be between the 8.4 and 10.1? I'm about to the get the 8.4 but I just wanna know if anyone has had the opportunity to check this between the two devices...
And where did everyone get their 8.4? Best buy or amazon or somewhere else offer a better deal?
10.1 also has 2gb ram. Only the 12.2 has 3. I'm used to the 3 in my note 3 so I notice a slowdown
Sent from my SM-N900V using Tapatalk
I just wanted to update this thread as I said I would. I grabbed the 8.4" last night and so far I'm impressed. The screen seems about the perfect size for comics, yes 10" more closely resembles and actual size, but at 8.4 i can still read everything fine, but its much easier to hold. Very happy so far!
mattbooty said:
I just wanted to update this thread as I said I would. I grabbed the 8.4" last night and so far I'm impressed. The screen seems about the perfect size for comics, yes 10" more closely resembles and actual size, but at 8.4 i can still read everything fine, but its much easier to hold. Very happy so far!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I've had, just recently, the Note 2014, Note Pro 12.2 and now the Tab 8.4 Out of them all I prefer the tab 8.4. The 2014 seemed was neither that portable or easy to hold. The screen wasn't so large that it made it worth it either. The Note 12. 2 screen was amazing, but it was impossible to get used to due to it's size . You really needed it on a desk, but why not just use a laptop if you're going to do that? I want to hold my tablet ...if I am going to have one.
Which leaves the 8.4. Very light, easy to hold either way. PPI is off the charts. The only thing I am not fond of is 16gb storage and less than stellar battery, but for this size you cannot have everything. So you know there is a but with External SD cards on these new Sammy devices.
I have an SD i put most of my stuff on anyways for my old tablet, so I'm just going to keep using it which should eliminate the storage as any issue. I haven't had it long enough yet to see how the battery stacks up.
I have both and both are great tablets it really comes down to what size you want
I am going to keep the 10.1 and return the 8.4 tomorrow
Sent from my Xperia Z Ultra using XDA Premium HD app
golfinggino said:
I have both and both are great tablets it really comes down to what size you want
I am going to keep the 10.1 and return the 8.4 tomorrow
Sent from my Xperia Z Ultra using XDA Premium HD app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I also have both. 8.4 will be a keeper. 10.1 is a little big and awkward. Plus 8 feels a little snappier.
10.1 have Better battery life,8.4 very bad
Does anybody know of a 32gb 8.4 coming out? Or even a 32gb 10.1?
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app

Tab Pro 8.4 vs Tab S 8.4

Is one of them better than the other?
I'm thinking about buying the pro version now, instead of waiting for the S version which comes out in about a month and it might be more expensive. Any suggestions?
The S is suppose to have the Super AMOLED screen instead of SuperLCD.
2.1 front cam instead of 2.0
3GB Ram instead of 2GB
Finger print sensor
But a different processor 1.9 instead of 2.3 if they are comparable that way.
Also a little slimmer and weighs less.
Alexpride said:
Is one of them better than the other?
I'm thinking about buying the pro version now, instead of waiting for the S version which comes out in about a month and it might be more expensive. Any suggestions?
The S is suppose to have the Super AMOLED screen instead of SuperLCD.
2.1 front cam instead of 2.0
3GB Ram instead of 2GB
Finger print sensor
But a different processor 1.9 instead of 2.3 if they are comparable that way.
Also a little slimmer and weighs less.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I think a lot depends on are you a fan of Amoled or TFT screens. Probably Tab S line will be the premium line and probably more expensive. Traditionally Amoled screens are more expensive than TFT screens.
Of course another important consideration is the price differential. It maybe more value for money to get the TabPro over the Tab S.
I can't imagine Samsung screwing the early adopters of the TabPro by pricing the Tab S similar to TabPro at launch.
SoC wise the TabPro runs SnapDragon 800 2.3 GHz vs Exynos 1.9 GHz[Samsung stated cheaper to use in-house silicon] of the Tab S. SD800 had better gpu but essentially both are pretty similar power and battery performance wise
Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk
So which tab would be better for reading textbooks? Which screen the SUPERLCD or the AMOLED?
If Samsung instead would have come up with a new 8.4 or 8.0 Note (S-Pen) tab it would have made more sense for a new release within a short period.
I don't like reading on white backgrounds. I try to use a black background if possible.
Having said that, SuperLCD and Amoled operate differently. LCDs have the entire backlight switched on even if the background is black. Therefore consumes more battery. Amoleds only turn on the pixel when it's not black. Therefore saving battery. But of cos if your browsing on a white background it's not going to save you battery.
As to which is better for reading textbooks, I find both technologies are just as good. Although Amoled has a wider colour gamut than LCD. So colours tend to look punchier.
I think your buying decision will likely be influenced more by the price than the tech. If the pricing differential is small than go for the Amoled. Thinner, lighter, better colours, potentially more power - saving display, more RAM.
I don't understand their marketing strategy. Launching so many TabPro/NotePro tablets not to mention their Tab4 line, and now TabS line. Maybe they just want to saturate the market.
Sent from my SM-N9005 Note 3
To be honest the LCD screen in Tab Pro 8.4 is already very good.
Remember all the reviews said, when TabPro8.4 came out: "best screen we've ever seen on a 7 to 8 inch tablet" !
Also, the quality of the screen pretty much demolished the LG G Pad 8.3's screen. I know, i was about to buy a G Pad but fortunately i waited and went for TabPRO instead. Difference between LG G Pad and TabPRO was quite big. I don't know if the diff between TabPRO and TabS will be anywhere near that big!
So it's certainly quite possible the Tab S will have a better screen... but since the TabPRO already has an "amazing" screen, it depends if you really need "better than amazing". and are willing to pay full msrp for it.
i think of it this way... if u have an M3 and it's working great, will you upgrade 3 months later and get an M5? :laugh:
locutusx said:
To be honest the LCD screen in Tab Pro 8.4 is already very good.
Remember all the reviews said, when TabPro8.4 came out: "best screen we've ever seen on a 7 to 8 inch tablet" !
Also, the quality of the screen pretty much demolished the LG G Pad 8.3's screen. I know, i was about to buy a G Pad but fortunately i waited and went for TabPRO instead. Difference between LG G Pad and TabPRO was quite big. I don't know if the diff between TabPRO and TabS will be anywhere near that big!
So it's certainly quite possible the Tab S will have a better screen... but since the TabPRO already has an "amazing" screen, it depends if you really need "better than amazing". and are willing to pay full msrp for it.
i think of it this way... if u have an M3 and it's working great, will you upgrade 3 months later and get an M5? :laugh:
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I agree with what you said. This LCD screen is already very good. I have a NotePro 12.2 and the screen is really good. Even better when squeezed into 8.4.
For me really depends on the price point of the TabS. I do prefer SD800 over Exynos but if the price is close I would probably get the TabS.
Ultimately you need to decide what parameters are more important to you and base your decision on that. I can only tell you my decision process but you make the final decision for yourself.
Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Tapatalk
Best Buy Sale
Best Buy has the 8.4 Pro on sale for $330, plus a free $50 gift card.
the_eclectic1 said:
I can't imagine Samsung screwing the early adopters of the TabPro by pricing the Tab S similar to TabPro at launch.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It seems this is exactly what is happening. TabPro 8.4 went on sale in States for $ 399, and the new Tab S 8.4 is now also going on sale at the same $ 399. (TabPro was reduved to $ 369 within a month, so early adopters, like myself, are screwed a couple of times over in this case )
Anyone know if the Tab Pro S will be offered with LTE?
Yes will be offered with LTE.
Sent from my SM-N9005
---------- Post added at 01:58 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:46 PM ----------
wjharing said:
It seems this is exactly what is happening. TabPro 8.4 went on sale in States for $ 399, and the new Tab S 8.4 is now also going on sale at the same $ 399. (TabPro was reduved to $ 369 within a month, so early adopters, like myself, are screwed a couple of times over in this case )
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sorry to hear that. Bad move Samsung. Do you think you will win brand loyalty by screwing your most passionate customers esp the early adopters? I can understand their strategy of trying to win more sales by tempting new customers with better tech and low prices. While you might tempt the early adopters to switch to their newer tablets. But releasing a newer better tablet in less than 6 months? It can backfire. You are going to piss off the early adopters who supported you.
Reminds me of the Moto Razr and Razr Max days.
Sent from my SM-N9005
From what I have read about the Tab S, the screen is sadly pentile and while saturated color not very accurate, if mainly using for reading would look at it in person first to make sure you like how text renders on the screen.
One definite benefit it has over the Tab Pro though is the speakers are on different sides of the screen instead of both on the bottom.
OMG I bought 4 weeks ago tab pro 8.4
phage80 said:
From what I have read about the Tab S, the screen is sadly pentile and while saturated color not very accurate, if mainly using for reading would look at it in person first to make sure you like how text renders on the screen.
One definite benefit it has over the Tab Pro though is the speakers are on different sides of the screen instead of both on the bottom.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I was afraid it might be pentile. Waiting to hear more from reviews. Though I had a nagging suspicion it was pentile, as Samsung said it was Super Amoled and not Super Amoled Plus [RGB sub pixel structure] which the Tab 7.7 had.
Speakers being on different sides would be good. Like the 10.5 & 12.2 Tabs.
Damn you Samsung. If you're going to do a superlative tablet, go all out and use Super Amoled Plus 2560x1600. It's more expensive tech. But you can charge more for it and it would justify the higher price for your target audience, especially photographers and people needing the larger color gamut and non-pentile display. And it wouldn't piss the TabPro buyers so much.
Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Tapatalk
---------- Post added at 06:52 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:49 PM ----------
Alexey71 said:
OMG I bought 4 weeks ago tab pro 8.4
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It's still a good tablet. Just that you might feel cheated if you had known it was coming so soon after TabPro 8.4. Esp if the price differential is small.
Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Tapatalk
the_eclectic1 said:
Yes will be offered with LTE.
Sent from my SM-N9005
---------- Post added at 01:58 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:46 PM ----------
Sorry to hear that. Bad move Samsung. Do you think you will win brand loyalty by screwing your most passionate customers esp the early adopters? I can understand their strategy of trying to win more sales by tempting new customers with better tech and low prices. While you might tempt the early adopters to switch to their newer tablets. But releasing a newer better tablet in less than 6 months? It can backfire. You are going to piss off the early adopters who supported you.
Reminds me of the Moto Razr and Razr Max days.
Sent from my SM-N9005
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm in the same boat. I would have loved to have waited for the S instead of snagging the Pro last month. Oh well. I'm still happy with my purchase.
Looking at the specs for the US wifi model it also uses a exynos cpu which could mean fewer roms.
phage80 said:
Looking at the specs for the US wifi model it also uses a exynos cpu which could mean fewer roms.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Typically the Wifi ones use Exynos while the LTE ones use S800.
Sent from my SM-N9005 using Tapatalk
The Tab Pro 8.4 wifi uses the S800 only.
Really? Not in my country.
[Edited] My bad. Looks like your right.
Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Tapatalk
i will keep the tab pro 8.4 anyday over purchasing the tab s, the qualcomm soc imho is better and faster than sammy chip, plus the benefit of having more development for us in the future on the tab pro is almost a givin,,steve
phage80 said:
From what I have read about the Tab S, the screen is sadly pentile and while saturated color not very accurate, if mainly using for reading would look at it in person first to make sure you like how text renders on the screen.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That would be unfortunate. I've had (still use, for other reasons) a pentile-screened Moto. Hate that aspect of it.
That said, I have several times knowingly bought expensive technology that was about to be replaced by a newer version simply because the several-month interval was worth it. Around ten years ago, knowing a $100 price break on what I was buying would happen in a month (and this was before refunds were feasible), and knowing that an improved version was three months away, I bought a $350 PDA. (That was a lot of money back then.) But having it was worth easily $10-$20 per DAY to me, so I viewed it as an annoyance but not a deal breaker.
Ask yourself these questions: would you notice the cost of two drinks at Starbucks a day? That's about $10/day. Yeah, we gripe at spending $2 on the Play Store for an app, but my typical martini or bourbon is $12/drink.
Would having the device now make you as much happier as those two coffees or one martini? (Or, put the other way, would you be discontented by unsatisfied desire without it?)
If so, get it now, because the opportunity cost is worth it.

Should I upgrade to tab s?

I love my 2 month old tab pro 8.4, love its pixel density and speed
Does the tab s has a better pixel density? Should I switch to the 10.5
Sent from my SM-T320 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
Same pixel density as Pro (359). Differences are S has super AMOLED screen, 32gb storage, 3gb RAM and Exynos chips.
IDK......not enough of an upgrade to make me spend the cash.
I asked myself the same question. The Tab S doesn't offer anything new that I want, and I dislike how the back side looks. I just want to enjoy the excellent device that I already have. I say get what you think will satisfy you in the long run, or else you will fall into the trap of upgrading to a new tablet every 2-3 months. =/
animedreamer240 said:
I asked myself the same question. The Tab S doesn't offer anything new that I want, and I dislike how the back side looks. I just want to enjoy the excellent device that I already have. I say get what you think will satisfy you in the long run, or else you will fall into the trap of upgrading to a new tablet every 2-3 months. =/
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
A few people in another thread who have seen the S model have said that the screen did not look noticeably better than the Pro.
Does s model AMOLED share subpixels like they do on my old galaxy s4? Because that caused letters on screen to have fuzzy little hair.
Sent from my SM-T320 using XDA Free mobile app
sharpehenry said:
Does s model AMOLED share subpixels like they do on my old galaxy s4? Because that caused letters on screen to have fuzzy little hair.
Sent from my SM-T320 using XDA Free mobile app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Rumor has it that it does use subpixels. It's supposedly a AMOLED, not Super AMOLED.
I've always preferred LCD so will be sticking with my Tab Pro 10.1. Though, I'll check out the Tab S today at Best Buy. I hear they have an instore price of $249 on the Tab Pro 8.4. If true, that's one hell of a price for a phenomenal tablet.
chasney said:
Rumor has it that it does use subpixels.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Tab S 8.4 is confirmed (at least somewhat, based on the following link - and I've seen it stated as pentile on other websites) to be a pentile display (subpixels); while the Tab S 10.4 is RGB stripe: http://www.anandtech.com/show/8168/samsungs-galaxy-tab-s-105-84-hands-on-with-samsungs-66mm-thin-tablets
Reviews around the web, and opinions on XDA I've read say the AMOLED is not significantly better or worse than the LCD on the Tab Pro models, just "different". Colors are a tad over-saturated, while blacks are a bit more true. If you like/dislike the AMOLED displays on the Samsung phones, your opinion will likely be the same for the Tab S.
Aside from the increased storage and RAM, I don't see this as much of an upgrade. And certainly not willing to buy another device after 2 months.
A bit questionable for Samsung to be releasing such similar devices so close together. I suppose choices are always good. But it gets to the point where they are just over-saturating the market (and maybe that is the intent?) and confusing the customer.
I'm more intrigued with almost double the battery time
yodan4 said:
I'm more intrigued with almost double the battery time
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Me too... based on Anand's tests the Tab S has better battery life for video playback than any other tablet currently out including the mighty IPad Air.
I have the Tab Pro and like it as well but the new device rocks with battery life.
I'd like to see application testing though. Video playback is definitely of value (I travel and watch videos) but I rarely spend hours on the tablet for internet use (that's what my computers are for).
However I do read a lot on my tablet and it would be interesting to see how long it lasts compared to the Tab Pro.
RobilarOCN said:
Me too... based on Anand's tests the Tab S has better battery life for video playback than any other tablet currently out including the mighty IPad Air.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Was a bit intrigued by the comments on battery life, and read the review. Hardly seems like an objective test. The reviewer states that they used a movie with lots of dark scenes which greatly favors the AMOLED screen. So this doesn't tell you much of anything . . . unless you only watch dark movies all the time!
Would have been nice to see more data points, and for various movies to be played.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/8197/samsung-galaxy-tab-s-review-105-84inch/3
---------- Post added at 04:41 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:39 PM ----------
yodan4 said:
I'm more intrigued with almost double the battery time
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Where are you seeing double the battery time? Anandtech is showing 50% more for video playback (15 hours versus 10) and less time for internet browsing.

[Q] Galaxy Tab S or S2 ?

Hi Guys,
My 2012 Nexus 10 is showing its age and I am desperate for a new tablet. I waited so long for Galaxy Tab S2, but I am kinda disappointed with its spec. old 5433 SoC and 4:3 screen with downgraded ppi and resolution ! so I am thinking about Galaxy Tab S, what do you think about it after lollipop update ? I heard many users complained about its lags and underpowered SoC, would you recommend it ? also how is the custom ROM community for it ? I can see there are a couple custom ROMs but are there stable enough to for daily usage ? I remember exynos had very limited developer support, so there was not many great ROMs for exynos devices out there, what do you think ? Galaxy Tab S or S2 ?
The S1 is a masterpiece the S2 is a frankenstein monster, 4:3 spit, virtually mono sound spit, so looks plain jane spit, no camera flash spit, no if-red spit, portrait design spit, I though it was an Galaxy Tab A by the photo`s it looks so cheap.
Exynos version has loads of rom`s, snapdragon version hardly any, If you want stability stick to kitkat, if your fine with flashing have fun with different roms.
John
But what about the lags and stutters on kitkat ? I heard lollipop fixed that. is it true ?
I have had no lag or stutter on my 10.5" kitkat , I had it running continuously for 160 days, I never shut it down or restarted it, I only did a restart to re-calibrate my battery but i had no problems with the battery, it was just maintenance.
But i am not a gamer, I mostly watch video`s and browse the internet for at least an hour every day, but white on an oled display eats the battery, if you do a lot of browsing use night mode or get an lcd tablet.
John.
fifthelement said:
But what about the lags and stutters on kitkat ? I heard lollipop fixed that. is it true ?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
hmm. hard question. I personally would not get either right now. The s2 looks like a step backwards in the key areas, the darn screen.
the s has the lovely screen, but unless you can get a decent deal, its too long in the tooth to spend out a lot for.
its so irritating as there are no tabs which tick all the boxes. the experia z3 is good, but the res is lower, but everything else is up to speed.
dont get me wrong, I really do like my tablet, but who knows what is coming out in the next few months, or will be announced. I hope finally there is something which is progress in all areas.
The Tab S2 has a lower resolution screen than the Tab S (both resolution AND PPI), a significantly smaller battery and a marginally upgraded processor.
I'd wait for the true successor to the Tab S - which will likely a more upmarket SAMOLED tablet, priced higher than the Tab S with a full metal body (Like the Galaxy Tab A) and more of a competitor for the iPad.
I prefer plastic to metal, metal is cold and when bent or dented it does not spring back like plastic also it blocks radio waves so you have to have non metal sections to let the waves in and out, Samsung are masters of durable plastic, you can bend the battery cover of their phones almost in two and it will spring back without any damage try that with metal.
John
So I bought my Tab S around a month ago and I have to say I'm in love with it! After seeing the specs of the Tab S 2 I knew straight away the device for me.
The tab s in my opinion tick pretty much every box the only thing I wish was better is the GPU for gaming (not that it plays games badly - they play well enough) but I can be quite picky and if I'm not getting the max FPS from a game I feel upset! Everything else on the tablet is perfect and I'm the kind of chap that sells his devices every couple of months for the latest better version but this is the first device I've come across that I've not even looked at replacing, well worth the £300 I spent for it. The xperia z4 tablet is now out and it's specs are majorly impressive but it's thick bezels I think make it an ugly design, I love the thin sides of the Tab S, another tablet I've been looking at is the Microsoft Surface Pro 3 but again after seeing it in the shop I think it's quite ugly and put a Bluetooth keyboard, mouse and hancom fine with my tab s and it's replaced my laptop, which I'm selling on eBay at the moment as it hasn't been used since I bought my tablet.
I'm a network manager at a school and have used my Tab S for a hell of a lot including connecting to multiple servers and writing 30 page policies. It's a great little device.
I upgraded to Lollipop but I'm using IronRom instead of stock and I have to say it's very stable and very fast. No lag. On antutu I got around the 4100 mark with all my GPU and CPU over locked it's just as powerful as an S5 phone. I'd recommend it to anyone and already multiple family members and the girlfriend have ordered one after seeing mine.
Sorry this was long but I hope it helped
Comes down to a few questions:
Do you value performance. The Exnos 5420 is a 2 year old processor. The 5433/7410 is a 1 year old processor (though it is a 20nn version of the 7420 in the S6)
Do you value battery life. The Tab S2 8.0 has a battery that is 20% smaller than the original tab. It may be that the 20nn processor and smaller newer screen are more efficient but I don't expect better battery life.
Do you value longevity/updates: The Tab S2 is a year newer so it will have its updates discontinued later than the Tab S.
Does display ratio matter to you: If you mostly read, the Tab S2 may be a dream come true. If you mostly watch videos, it's a disaster.
Do you value internal storage: Other than a best buy limited edition model, the Tab S has 16gb storage. The S2 has 32GB.
It seems like the Tab S2 is a Galaxy Note 4 (international) turned into a tablet. The Tab S was the Galaxy Note 3 (international) turned into a tablet.
This is a tough question for me. I re-bought the Tab S 8.4 for 190 (ridiculous deal best buy had a few months ago) after leaving it late last year to try other tablets (The Xperia Z3 Tablet and the Venue 7840). I also bought the Tab S 8.4 on day 1 last year (great deal, $350 for the tablet, Samsung cover, and 16gb sd card) to replace my Tab Pro 8.4 that I bought on day 1. I'm leaning towards getting it if the same deal is in play.
I have asked basic maths for help:
smaller side of t800 is 5.87 inch and of t810 is 5.82 inch...
So I do not see any advantage for browsing in new generation...
rp3 said:
Comes down to a few questions:
Do you value performance. The Exnos 5420 is a 2 year old processor. The 5433/7410 is a 1 year old processor (though it is a 20nn version of the 7420 in the S6)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Unfortunately yes he is right here as the Tab S processor is a year older, though I find it very quick and non-laggy when using IronRom on lollipop. As stated above the one thing I'd change is GPU performance but remember you always have over clocking when you root!
rp3 said:
Do you value longevity/updates: The Tab S2 is a year newer so it will have its updates discontinued later than the Tab S.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Best thing about android is that you can flash a custom ROM so updates never bother me as I can always flash a latest build of Cyanogenmod if needs be.
rp3 said:
Do you value internal storage: Other than a best buy limited edition model, the Tab S has 16gb storage. The S2 has 32GB.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have 16GB internal storage on my Tab S including a 128GB memory card. Everything including apps is stored on my memory card thanks to the app "foldermount" you must be rooted though, I don't think the Tab S 2 has expandable storage but I could be wrong.
Good Point the S1 beats the S2 in both horizontal and vertical resolution, so the S2 is not really better for browsing, though you have to turn the S1 10.5" to portrait mode as it`s an landscape tablet while the S1 8.4" is an portrait style already.
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/co...ch,Samsung-Galaxy-Tab-S-10.5/phones/9385,8662
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/co...nch,Samsung-Galaxy-Tab-S-8.4/phones/9384,8663
John.
ivanox1972 said:
I have asked basic maths for help:
smaller side of t800 is 5.87 inch and of t810 is 5.82 inch...
So I do not see any advantage for browsing in new generation...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thank you all for your responses and opinions, I guess I would go for a Galaxy Tab S. but I will wait until S2 is released so I can get a good deal. I expect galaxy tab s gets a discount when s2 is released.
S1 - just bought my third for the household, was holding out for the S2 but so glad i did not wait for a iPad Air copy.
This morning I read that the S2 comes with Android 5.0.2 and started to laugh. Seriously 5.1.1 has been out for months including on a few Samsung devices. At the glacial pace that Samsung updates their tablet OS versions Android M will have been out for at least three months before the S2 gets v5.1.1, what a joke.
That on top of an older processor makes you wonder why they even bothered. I'm very happy to have bought my S 10.5 at almost $70 less retail, a few months ago, rather than this laughable new flagship tablet. Samsung's advantage of the best screen technology in the industry is getting sabotaged by very odd engineering decisions. It seems like the tablet division is run by their B team.
Sent from my SM-T800 using XDA Premium HD app
Frankly speaking, I would never buy an S2 over the Tab S. At the moment on the Tab S you can have Lollipop, Xposed, custom kernels with F2FS, and the tablet flies, literally.
Yeah, but with the S2 you have like errr emm eerrr nothing help!!!!
John.
stopa10 said:
Frankly speaking, I would never buy an S2 over the Tab S. At the moment on the Tab S you can have Lollipop, Xposed, custom kernels with F2FS, and the tablet flies, literally.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
www.youtube.com/watch?v=P28m9cwa47E
Samsung tab s2 hands on and comparison with tab s. In English . According to this guy tab s2 has much more per and pricing will be matched to tab S.
ivanox1972 said:
I have asked basic maths for help:
smaller side of t800 is 5.87 inch and of t810 is 5.82 inch...
So I do not see any advantage for browsing in new generation...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well, the advantage is that is almost the same viewing area but in a smaller and lighter package. Also, much more natural than the awkwardness that 16:10 is in portrait on such a large tablet as the tab S IMO. YMMV.
yohandesilva1 said:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=P28m9cwa47E
Samsung tab s2 hands on and comparison with tab s. In English . According to this guy tab s2 has much more per and pricing will be matched to tab S.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That video sure did nothing to change my mind that the S2 is a step backward. Especially the comparison of reading the magazine which showed nothing visually while the video playback did demonstrate the smaller picture and unused screen black bars. Is Samsung going to pronounce, to video watchers, that the black bars on video playback is actually a way to extend your battery life? Which maybe needed as the thinner design and aspect ratio has reduced overall battery size. It is going to be tough to polish a turd and sell it at a flag ship price.
After reading the S2 details I'm still amazed that the OS is v5.0.2 and it does not have the same processor that the S6 phone uses. What were they thinking?
Sent from my SM-T800 using XDA Premium HD app

Tab s2 9.7' or Tab s 10.5'

Hello everyone,
I decided on buying my very first tablet... After buying my first Samsung Galaxy phone, I have come to absolutely love Amoled displays.
So I have only 2 choices I guess?
So what do you guys think? I've done loads of research and I just can't decided because:
Tab s is Cheaper, better battery, bigger screen But slower SOC.
Tab S2 is faster and i like the portrait orientation with that 4:3 ratio (these are the only advantages imho since i genuinely don't care about the looks, the camera nor the thinness of it because the tablet is going to be in it's case all the time).
So I cant decide if I should go for the old and save a few bucks (euros actually ) or go for the new one that is like 20% faster.
I forgot to mention that I will mainly be using it for ebooks and reading, and maybe a few movies now and then.
Oh and lastly I will be installing cyanogenmod immediately since I never liked bloatware.
Soo... Do share your thoughts with me guys,
Thanks in advance.
lorismarcos said:
I forgot to mention that I will mainly be using it for ebooks and reading, and maybe a few movies now and then.
Oh and lastly I will be installing cyanogenmod immediately since I never liked bloatware.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I recommend the Tab S 10.5 based on your statement.
Here's a video comparing both:
Really helpful video.
Thanks mate.
Is the performance of that exynos 5420 decent for viewing large PDF's?
Cause from my research many people tend to complain about the tab S' performance.
Or is that associated with the touchwiz
Sent from my GT-I9505
I have been using the Tab S 10.5 for a while now, and it is terribly slow. The reasons for the slowness are very little RAM which cripples the OS (3GB) and general Android application awkwardness and slugginess (designed for phones not for every day use). Both Galaxy tabs have 3GB RAM so you're out of luck.
Using the tablet to do simple, every day tasks, there is a tremendous difference with the laptop. I know you said you only want to watch movies or read books, but still I think a small laptop running Windows or Apple iOS would beat the pants out of any tablet. The only difference is the price, tablets can be much cheaper than laptops. But I regret having bought the tablet because it cannot really do simple things without extreme awkwardness.
The only major plus is I am using it also as a phone (I have the T805) which is something no laptop can do (that I am aware of).
As you said I also have the tablet in a case/ book cover , complete with keyboard and mouse, so it is like a small laptop anyway.
If you have not bought it yet, try to see if there are 10"-11" laptops that could do everything you need and so much better.
Although I don't have the tab s, yet, I'll have to disagree with you friend.
3gb of RAM should be more than enough.
My galaxy s4 has 2 gb and I'm multitasking like crazy... Never ever felt like I need more RAM. But of course I have cm12.1 on it.
My concern with the tab s is the processor not the RAM.
Sent from my GT-I9505 using XDA Free mobile app
Wow, 3 GB of RAM is little for you... What simple tasks you want to do, that Galaxy tab s is too slow for you? Mine is really fast, enough to replace laptop. Maybe you are not familiar with Android and don't know how to maintain the device fast.
lorismarcos said:
Although I don't have the tab s, yet, I'll have to disagree with you friend.
3gb of RAM should be more than enough.
My galaxy s4 has 2 gb and I'm multitasking like crazy... Never ever felt like I need more RAM. But of course I have cm12.1 on it.
My concern with the tab s is the processor not the RAM.
Sent from my GT-I9505 using XDA Free mobile app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
"multitasking like crazy..." That was funny!
lorismarcos said:
Hello everyone,
I decided on buying my very first tablet... After buying my first Samsung Galaxy phone, I have come to absolutely love Amoled displays.
So I have only 2 choices I guess?
So what do you guys think? I've done loads of research and I just can't decided because:
Tab s is Cheaper, better battery, bigger screen But slower SOC.
Tab S2 is faster and i like the portrait orientation with that 4:3 ratio (these are the only advantages imho since i genuinely don't care about the looks, the camera nor the thinness of it because the tablet is going to be in it's case all the time).
So I cant decide if I should go for the old and save a few bucks (euros actually ) or go for the new one that is like 20% faster.
I forgot to mention that I will mainly be using it for ebooks and reading, and maybe a few movies now and then.
Oh and lastly I will be installing cyanogenmod immediately since I never liked bloatware.
Soo... Do share your thoughts with me guys,
Thanks in advance.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
since you mentioned cyanogenmod.... go with the good old tab s 10.5... tab s 2 got nothing develop yet.... :silly:
You are either an 16:10 or 4:3 person, if you watch more video get the S1 10.5" 16:10 if you browse the internet mostly get the S2 9.7" 4:3 Version, if you don't care, I don't either.
John.
lorismarcos said:
Although I don't have the tab s, yet, I'll have to disagree with you friend.
3gb of RAM should be more than enough.
My galaxy s4 has 2 gb and I'm multitasking like crazy... Never ever felt like I need more RAM. But of course I have cm12.1 on it.
My concern with the tab s is the processor not the RAM.
Sent from my GT-I9505 using XDA Free mobile app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Go with Tab s 10.5:
Bigger display
Higher resolution 2560 x 1600
Led flash
Infrared
Sent from my GT-I9505 using XDA Free mobile app
Astania said:
Wow, 3 GB of RAM is little for you... What simple tasks you want to do, that Galaxy tab s is too slow for you? Mine is really fast, enough to replace laptop. Maybe you are not familiar with Android and don't know how to maintain the device fast.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I totally agree the tabs 10.5 fast with stock and even faster when rooted. I own the SM-T807P by Sprint variant. I just wish for a couple of custom Roms .
Guys, thanks for all your help.
I went and got my self a nice bronze t805...
I managed to last about 30 mins with bloatwiz.. So now I'm on PAC man Rom...Who cares about Knox and warranties and what not...
I really recommend this Rom. It completely transformed my tab, and now it's much faster.
Cheers lads

Categories

Resources