Which Broadcom GPS receiver will be used on S9x ?
Is it the same BCM4774 like on older models, or the new dual-frequency L1/L5 BCM4775x ?
I still can't find the exact spec, but what they're showing doesn't look promising. the GPS "spec" from the marketing gibberish is exactly the same as that from the S8:
Location (GPS, Galileo, Glonass, BeiDou)
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http://www.samsung.com/global/galaxy/galaxy-s9/specs/
http://www.samsung.com/global/galaxy/galaxy-s8/specs/
I was wondering about this too lol
[email protected] said:
the GPS "spec" from the marketing gibberish is exactly the same as that from the S8
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The marketing people never (can) provide any usable technical information.
Even google people give you a pretty useless device table at https://developer.android.com/guide/topics/sensors/gnss.html
although they certainly know better: all phones with 'yes' in "Accumulated delta range" use BCM4774, and support Galileo (excluding Nexus 9 in the last row, which uses special firmware and has an older Broadcom chipset).
I hope somebody will do a hardware teardown, or will enable debugging log options in gpsconfig.xml on a rooted S9x
IMHO, the chances for BCM4775x are pretty slim, but let's hope for the better.
OK, just pre-ordered . Is there a way other than rooting I (or teardown!) that I can use to determine the GPS chip? If it's not the BCM4775 I'll probably just turn around and sell it prior to activation and don't want to mess it up too much
[email protected] said:
OK, just pre-ordered . Is there a way other than rooting I (or teardown!) that I can use to determine the GPS chip? If it's not the BCM4775 I'll probably just turn around and sell it prior to activation and don't want to mess it up too much
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Is that dual frequency thing really that important? What's about it that makes it so important?
Poor man's surveying equipment.
I have some rough land surveying to do (and potentially re-do over several iterations marking different boundaries) and the current ~10m range of accuracy doesn't cut it, while the ~10cm on the dual frequency chip would suffice. No, that is not my sole reason to consider an upgrade (as well it shouldn't be), but factored with everything else it pushes it over the edge. If it doesn't, I'll just wait until my S7 totally poops the bed in another year or so.
[email protected] said:
Poor man's surveying equipment.
I have some rough land surveying to do (and potentially re-do over several iterations marking different boundaries) and the current ~10m range of accuracy doesn't cut it, while the ~10cm on the dual frequency chip would suffice. No, that is not my sole reason to consider an upgrade (as well it shouldn't be), but factored with everything else it pushes it over the edge. If it doesn't, I'll just wait until my S7 totally poops the bed in another year or so.
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I usually get 6m of accuracy tho 10cm would be nice haha.
[email protected] said:
Is there a way other than rooting I (or teardown!) that I can use to determine the GPS chip?
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The only non-invasive way is to install this APK
https://github.com/google/gps-measurement-tools/releases/tag/2.0.0.1
and check the logs for L5 pseudoranges et al.
This approach is not that reliable as teardown | rooting, and can provide a false negative result.
It's dual carrier. 4755
Extracted this from S9 firmware
Edit: it seems like it's disabled tho. No CM accuracy
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white7561 said:
It's dual carrier. 4755
Extracted this from S9 firmware
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Wow. And the a*holes keep quiet about it, damn marketing people
Maybe one needs to upload some firmware patch for L5/E5 to work properly.
Where can i look at the gpsd binary ?
Edit: it seems like it's disabled tho.
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On the rooted phone you can edit gps.xml and enable the dual-frequency operation. I have written about it in Huawei Mate 9 GPS thread.
white7561 said:
It's dual carrier. 4755
Extracted this from S9 firmware
Edit: it seems like it's disabled tho. No CM accuracy
View attachment 4438060
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Great, thanks!! I guess I shouldn't get too pedantic, but Broadcom is calling this the BCM47755...should we just concede that this chip shows up as 4755 in firmware?
I can't decipher where in that xml it's saying it's disabled, but does it stand to reason that enabling this could come from a software update from samsung and/or verizon? i.e. I should keep the S9 once it arrives and they hope for the best??
Thanks!!!
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I can't decipher where in that xml it's saying it's disabled,
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This is the Broadcom enum for possible multifrequency modes:
Code:
GL_MULTI_CARR_RF_MODE_UNKNOWN
GL_MULTI_CARR_RF_MODE_L1
GL_MULTI_CARR_RF_MODE_L1_L5
GL_MULTI_CARR_RF_MODE_L1_LP
GL_MULTI_CARR_RF_MODE_L1_L5_LP
GL_MULTI_CARR_RF_MODE_L1_L2_L5
GL_MULTI_CARR_RF_MODE_L1_NN
L1L5
L1LP
L1L5LP
L1L2L5
L1NN
L1_EXT_ON
L5_EXT_ON
It is also interesting that they still stick to the 'rtistatus3.dat' for RTIconfig, which does not support Galileo. You can use rtistatus4.dat available from Broadcom site to fix that.
cr2 said:
Wow. And the a*holes keep quiet about it, damn marketing people
Maybe one needs to upload some firmware patch for L5/E5 to work properly.
Where can i look at the gpsd binary ?
On the rooted phone you can edit gps.xml and enable the dual-frequency operation. I have written about it in Huawei Mate 9 GPS thread.
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It's on the GPS.xml file. I've deleted the whole system.img tho. So I can't open it anymore
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cr2 said:
This is the Broadcom enum for possible multifrequency modes:
Code:
GL_MULTI_CARR_RF_MODE_UNKNOWN
GL_MULTI_CARR_RF_MODE_L1
GL_MULTI_CARR_RF_MODE_L1_L5
GL_MULTI_CARR_RF_MODE_L1_LP
GL_MULTI_CARR_RF_MODE_L1_L5_LP
GL_MULTI_CARR_RF_MODE_L1_L2_L5
GL_MULTI_CARR_RF_MODE_L1_NN
L1L5
L1LP
L1L5LP
L1L2L5
L1NN
L1_EXT_ON
L5_EXT_ON
It is also interesting that they still stick to the 'rtistatus3.dat' for RTIconfig, which does not support Galileo. You can use rtistatus4.dat available from Broadcom site to fix that.
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Yeah interesting
cr2 said:
The only non-invasive way is to install this APK
https://github.com/google/gps-measurement-tools/releases/tag/2.0.0.1
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If you already have the phone, please install this APK and tell me if the 'Galileo Navigation Messages' are being logged. They do not work on S8 and Huawei phones (all using Broadcom BCM4774).
cr2 said:
If you already have the phone, please install this APK and tell me if the 'Galileo Navigation Messages' are being logged. They do not work on S8 and Huawei phones (all using Broadcom BCM4774).
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I have a pre-order. Supposedly ships on the 16th, so I'll have it a day or two after that and I'll give this a whirl.
[email protected] said:
I have a pre-order.
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Thanks. Finally we have a real innovation in the smartphones, and not just a plastic cover color change ! +1 for Samsung.
cr2 said:
If you already have the phone, please install this APK and tell me if the 'Galileo Navigation Messages' are being logged. They do not work on S8 and Huawei phones (all using Broadcom BCM4774).
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Not to be offense, but how could tell the new S9 would be using BCM4775X family?
According to Broadcom webpage, are there any chances that BCM4755 would be some kind of OEM product between BCM4752 & BCM4774? Are there any apps that can log / indicate that uses L5 channel? Thanks.
cr2 said:
If you already have the phone, please install this APK and tell me if the 'Galileo Navigation Messages' are being logged. They do not work on S8 and Huawei phones (all using Broadcom BCM4774).
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Welp, this is discouraging:
12. ~ adam22 2018-02-25 23:09:34 host: 77,111,244,47
Samsung S9 does not have Broadcom BCM47755. This information is 100% reliable. Only in S10 will they give the BCM47755 chip.
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from the comments on this link (hooray for google translate!)
źródło: http://www.telepolis.pl/wiadomosci/samsung-galaxy-s9-w-benchmarku-antutu,2,3,41516.html
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źródło: http://www.telepolis.pl/wiadomosci/samsung-galaxy-s9-w-benchmarku-antutu,2,3,41516.html
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I will wait for the first real hardware teardown.
Related
When 360's start apprearing in the wild:
Both the G watch and the Gear Live have roms built directly by goog.
TheManii said:
Android wear runs, well android.
I would like to request that someone that has a wear to dump the rom that is preinstalled on it, and to make note if there it prompts for an ota on first setup.
I don't know how to enable adb on it, but I would expect that it would be available, for the moment merely doing a
Code:
adb pull /system
will be as much as anyone can expect.
In the event it actually supports fastboot, I'd also like to request a
Code:
fastboot get-var all
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Bump, the moto 360 is now shipping/shipping soon, one of the preloaded roms is KKW22
I also need the version string of the bootloader.
You can find the bootloader version in fastboot,.
Also, you do not need to be rooted to dump system, all you need is to enable adb.
I'll do a system dump. You do need root to dump recovery.
Rebooting into fastboot gets this.
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Bootloader Version: 948
Device is LOCKED. Status Code: 2
Battery OK
Connect USB Cable
So no fastboot over ADB.
I have some of the apps pulled from the /system and can get them up soon but adb over bluetooth is ssooo slow.
Can you connect a regular USB cell phone cable to the computer and the charging dock at the same time? Would the computer see it?
slaydog said:
Can you connect a regular USB cell phone cable to the computer and the charging dock at the same time? Would the computer see it?
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Tried, nada. There is speculation that there is a USB port hidden on the main board. (5 holes on the bottom of this,
) and there 5 contacts on the main board in the same spot. (Note: Board is flipped in this image.
)
kuronosan said:
I'll do a system dump. You do need root to dump recovery.
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I'm about 3 hours into a dump right now. ADB over bluetooth is ridiculously slow. Unless you just want to do it as well I'll upload when I'm done to save you the time.
Well could someone upload the build.prop while waiting?
Though I want a copy of the entire rom, I mostly need the build.prop
@fodawim
what rom is installed right now? if you got an ota it is likely KGW42N.
Was it before or after the ota?
I can't imagine the only direct access to it would be only via BT,
having to take it apart to service/program it seems like a hassle.
TheManii said:
Well could someone upload the build.prop while waiting?
Though I want a copy of the entire rom, I mostly need the build.prop
@fodawim
what rom is installed right now? if you got an ota it is likely KGW42N.
Was it before or after the ota?
I can't imagine the only direct access to it would be only via BT,
having to take it apart to service/program it seems like a hassle.
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build.prop: http://pastebin.com/kRNQmLTA
I'm looking forward to seeing a teardown on it. I'm guessing there's some way Moto can service it like popping either the back or the screen off and just plug in an adapter that has pogo pins or something. Doesn't necessarily look like an ideal device for modders right now though.
TheManii said:
Well could someone upload the build.prop while waiting?
Though I want a copy of the entire rom, I mostly need the build.prop
@fodawim
what rom is installed right now? if you got an ota it is likely KGW42N.
Was it before or after the ota?
I can't imagine the only direct access to it would be only via BT,
having to take it apart to service/program it seems like a hassle.
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Yeah it's running on KGW42N (4.4W.1), not the stock image when it shipped.
I'm thinking it may be just below the watchband location, going to remove the bands in a sec to see.
What's the model number on the back of it/box/whatever?
If there's anyone that hasn't updated yet, could they grab the full ota url by using wireshark/fiddler/<preferred packet sniffer> and redirecting the 360 to it before letting it connect to the internet for the first time?
fodawim said:
Yeah it's running on KGW42N (4.4W.1), not the stock image when it shipped.
I'm thinking it may be just below the watchband location, going to remove the bands in a sec to see.
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Careful, someone said they busted the back plastic trying to take it off. It has to be possible since they are releasing the metal band later, but go slow so you don't break it.
TheManii said:
What's the model number on the back of it/box/whatever?
If there's anyone that hasn't updated yet, could they grab the full ota url by using wireshark/fiddler/<preferred packet sniffer> and redirecting the 360 to it before letting it connect to the internet for the first time?
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Model is 00418NARTL (Black/Black)
Grey is 00419NARTL
That's from the box. The watch itself has markings under the band at the very edge but I can't read them.
fodawim said:
Model is 00418NARTL (Black/Black)
Grey is 00419NARTL
That's from the box. The watch itself has markings under the band at the very edge but I can't read them.
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Hmm that doesnt seem to match existing model numbers.
Other moto devices with goog roms/gpe devices were:
OG Droid: A855
Xoom: MZ600/MZ604
Moto G: XT1032
fodawim said:
Model is 00418NARTL (Black/Black)
Grey is 00419NARTL
That's from the box. The watch itself has markings under the band at the very edge but I can't read them.
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Good call, I had a magnifying glass next to me so I took a look. I just see FCC ID numbers and a serial number. That kind of stuff.
Edit: Specifically: anatel id, fcc id, ic number, and serial number.
Edit 2: System dump just finished. Packaging and uploading.
AJerman said:
Careful, someone said they busted the back plastic trying to take it off. It has to be possible since they are releasing the metal band later, but go slow so you don't break it.
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Well, you aren't supposed to take the back plastic off lol. The bands are just like normal watchbands, you use a tool to pull back the spring bar.
Also just got em off, nada. Just markings. Just like what AJ said.
fodawim said:
Well, you aren't supposed to take the back plastic off lol. The bands are just like normal watchbands, you use a tool to pull back the spring bar.
Also just got em off, nada. Just markings. Just a FCC ID and an ANATEL ID. :/
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Oh, hah. They looked a little deep to me. I was under the same impression as others that you would take the back off to get to them easier. Good to know.
Okay, here is the system dump: http://d-h.st/isi
I'm done for now. I'll check back later. I've been holding off my friends telling them I'm busy "hacking my watch" for long enough. :laugh:
If you're curious about what the markings say, here ya go.
I don't know if I can directly link to it, but the FCC docs state it can do 802.11b/g/n.
OET Exhibits List [FCC ID:IHDT6QC1]
If wifi isnt available it's because it was disabled in the rom, and not because it doesn't have the hardware to do it.
I'm not sure whether the right forum to post this thread.
Does anybody know about the new wristband that Xiaomi launched yesterday?
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You won't see any screen on it, even no LED screen to show the time.
But it doesn't mean Mi Band is bland or worthless. I think it's quite powerful.:good:
- Unlock your phone via bluetooth without passcode (using BLE)
- Fitness monitor: track various health metrics and sync with your phone
- Sleep tracker and smart alarm: vibrate to wake you up during light sleep
- Notification: vibrate and flicker when you receive a new SMS or call
- Waterproof with the rating of IP67: you can wear it when showering
- 30 days standby when full charged
And the most awesome thing is, it's very cheap: only $13! It must be one of the cheapest smart band on the market.
But there are some cons:
No screen. However this makes the battery life longer.
It's only compatible with Mi 3 or Mi 4 with Android 4.4 based MIUI (It's the worst thing! )
Any ideas about Mi Band? Will you buy one if you had a Mi 3 or Mi 4?
Useful additions for Mi Band
Unlock and call reminder features are only for Xiaomi phones, is that right?
And how about whole wristband, does it work work on "normal" Android phone? My common sense telling me that it should - there is no restriction, it is just a bluetooth transmission. But maybe I'm wrong?
This looks brilliant. I was actually researching BLE technology and considering making something like this to unlock my phone. Seems I don't have to, at least if Xiaomi makes it support other devices.
Impo5sible said:
Unlock and call reminder features are only for Xiaomi phones, is that right?
And how about whole wristband, does it work work on "normal" Android phone? My common sense telling me that it should - there is no restriction, it is just a bluetooth transmission. But maybe I'm wrong?
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I think it should work on other Android phones, but it couldn't, Even the older Xiaomi phone's like Mi 2S is not compatible.
Xiaomi is too "closed" now. Xiaomi will lose many potential customers if they keep doing that.
quack3d said:
This looks brilliant. I was actually researching BLE technology and considering making something like this to unlock my phone. Seems I don't have to, at least if Xiaomi makes it support other devices.
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Yeah...I hope the next generation (Mi Band 2?) can support more devices.
Xiaomi is following Sammy's footstep, trying to get new customers by releasing phone specific gadgets. The only difference with Gear - that one got rooted, but with something as simple as smartband - most likely it will be locked to their phone. The same as they announced before about release of MI pressy-clones. Also, you have to realize that $13 is heavily subsidized price, they are giving it away at the cost or maybe below the cost, just so they can get new MI customers. Similar to what Amazon does with their tablets (hoping to get more Amazon shopping customers) or Google did with Nexus 7 (trying to jump start Android tablet business to take away share from iOS).
vectron said:
Xiaomi is following Sammy's footstep, trying to get new customers by releasing phone specific gadgets. The only difference with Gear - that one got rooted, but with something as simple as smartband - most likely it will be locked to their phone. The same as they announced before about release of MI pressy-clones. Also, you have to realize that $13 is heavily subsidized price, they are giving it away at the cost or maybe below the cost, just so they can get new MI customers. Similar to what Amazon does with their tablets (hoping to get more Amazon shopping customers) or Google did with Nexus 7 (trying to jump start Android tablet business to take away share from iOS).
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I heard a rumor that the cost of Mi Band is only CN¥ 49 (about $8.5)
i think in europe it will cost triple
where have people pre-ordered this from?
It starting to show up on websites that sell xiaomi and even aliexpress (although the price is higher than announced, but still a good deal considering).
Im just wondering, this does work with other android phones or just with xiaomi? Anyone knows yet? Its still new, so there probably isn't much info on that yet
griffin_1 said:
It starting to show up on websites that sell xiaomi and even aliexpress (although the price is higher than announced, but still a good deal considering).
Im just wondering, this does work with other android phones or just with xiaomi? Anyone knows yet? Its still new, so there probably isn't much info on that yet
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It is supposed to work only with mi3 and 4 but I guess it shouldn't be difficult to make it work with any Android gadget as it works with bluetooth
Javimoran said:
It is supposed to work only with mi3 and 4 but I guess it shouldn't be difficult to make it work with any Android gadget as it works with bluetooth
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HTCMania discussed in that it can be used with any Android, a user has been tested with a Nexus5 ... I have installed the apk without problems, but this in Chino, hopefully soon be translated into Spanish or English.
They have the apk file, but being new I can not put link.
Good to know!
We will probably start seeing more development on these as they start to get to more people.
But the function that it was to unlock/remove pin or pattern when you grab the phone/close to the hand with the bracelet probably won't work, right? Unless someone comes out with an android mod that will allow that.
Still, as a fitness tracker you can't beat the price
When in stock?
Hi!
This is the official link of the MiBand app -> http://m.app.mi.com/#page=detail&id=68548
And here is the apk modified by myself, I only changed a word so now the app will show you in english (if not, it will show in chinese by default). There are only a few sentences in english but Im going to try to translate more.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzIBzdJyyVHdODhJNW1BTjhZTUE/edit?usp=sharing
Bye!
I ordered 2 of them. i seriously hope someone will make an android version of the app
Is it possible tho ? I can't read the content of htcmania but apparently peeps talk about it.
Still got time to figure it out !
telkmx said:
I ordered 2 of them. i seriously hope someone will make an android version of the app
Is it possible tho ? I can't read the content of htcmania but apparently peeps talk about it.
Still got time to figure it out !
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Here you have the official Android app, updated with english
http://m.app.mi.com/#page=detail&id=68548
Bye!
Oh i thought this was the official Mi app updated in english !
I'm so grateful ! :good:
If you see some things in chinese, install this apk (a little mod made by myself) and it should be entirely in english:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzIBzdJyyVHddXpuMXlhOWZid1U/edit?usp=sharing
WaPeR32 said:
Here you have the official Android app, updated with english
Bye!
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I tried this, but at registration when I try to save the password I got a Server Error.
Hi guys,
I need to ask this, does moto 360 has built-in wifi or not?
Because it's a shame if next android wear be here and we can't use wifi stand alone feature
scorpion_s66 said:
Hi guys,
I need to ask this, does moto 360 has built-in wifi or not?
Because it's a shame if next android wear be here and we can't use wifi stand alone feature
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No, it does not.
pr0cl1v1ty said:
No, it does not.
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The specs say it does have Wifi, but nobody has been able to prove if it does or does not.
JimSmith94 said:
The specs say it does have Wifi, but nobody has been able to prove if it does or does not.
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Where does it say that?
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JimSmith94 said:
The specs say it does have Wifi, but nobody has been able to prove if it does or does not.
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Thanks, do you have the link for that spec you've mentioned?
It's been rumored since before it was released. Here are a few links:
http://readwrite.com/2014/08/19/moto-360-smartwatch-wi-fi-internet-standalone
https://www.reddit.com/r/moto360/comments/2o4pwy/moto_360s_ti_wireless_chip_has_wifi_capabilities/
http://www.cnet.com/news/apple-watch-specs-versus-moto-360-lg-g-watch-r-samsung-gear-s/
JimSmith94 said:
It's been rumored since before it was released. Here are a few links:
http://readwrite.com/2014/08/19/moto-360-smartwatch-wi-fi-internet-standalone
https://www.reddit.com/r/moto360/comments/2o4pwy/moto_360s_ti_wireless_chip_has_wifi_capabilities/
http://www.cnet.com/news/apple-watch-specs-versus-moto-360-lg-g-watch-r-samsung-gear-s/
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Rumors vs stats from manufacturers website.
If you search for the FCC fillings for the Motorola 360 smartwatch, you will find several documents that attest that the chipset the watch uses DOES support Wlan.
Check out this, at read heading 2.2 of TEST REPORT BT.
See bold section below from the FCC documentation.
The Moto 360 has WiFi.
One revealing thing about the documentation is while they list the device as WLAN capable, they do not test it.
They only tested the Bluetooth radio.
Test Dates:
EUT Type:
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Wrist Watch
© 2014 PCTEST Engineering Laboratory, Inc.
V 5.0
01/13/2014
2.0 PRODUCT INFORMATION
2.1 Equipment Description
The Equipment Under Test (EUT) is the
Motorola
Wrist Watch FCC ID: IHDT6QC1
. The test data contained
in this report pertains only to the emissions due to the EUT’s Bluetooth transmitter.
2.2 Device Capabilities
This device contains the following capabilities:
802.11b/g/n WLAN, Bluetooth (1x, EDR, LE)
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Also listed as one of the device's capabilities in the attestation doc...
2.3.
Attestation Statement
(Equipment Class DTS and DSS - Bluetooth/Wi-Fi)
This device contains an embedded Bluetooth device and Wi-Fi device capabilities that Motorola Mobility confirms are compliant with the applicable Part 15C regulations.
15.247(a)(1)
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The hopping sequence must be pseudorandom.
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All Channels are used equally on average.
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The receiver input bandwidth is approximately equal to the transmit bandwidth.
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The receiver hops in sequence with the transmitted signal.
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It does have a Wifi chipset on board, but its of no use as its not enabled by Motorola.
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And i dont think the battery of Moto 360 is capable enough to handle Wifi ...as everyone knows the incapabilities of the 320 mAh battery.
StariX37 said:
It does have a Wifi chipset on board, but its of no use as its not enabled by Motorola.
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And i dont think the battery of Moto 360 is capable enough to handle Wifi ...as everyone knows the incapabilities of the 320 mAh battery.
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Exactly. WiFi in general is a VERY power-hungry interface. And the way SoCs are nowadays it's common to have lots of interfaceson a chip that you just don't use. So it's no surprise that they have WiFi on the chip they're using but it's equally unsurprising (and smart) that they're not using it.
Here we are: http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2015/04/android-wear-wear-what-you-want-get.html. , now what? We'll got wifi support or what?
Motorola's blog entry includes the presence of WiFi in the update. I wouldn't think they would include it if it wouldn't be present in the watch:
motorola-blog [dot] blogspot [dot] com
[apologies, too new to actually post direct URLs]
scorpion_s66 said:
Here we are: http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2015/04/android-wear-wear-what-you-want-get.html. , now what? We'll got wifi support or what?
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MOtorola is the only one who will be able to answer this. I imagine they will want to leverage this new Wear functionality but it may be so detrimental to their battery life that they don't. Or it may just not work for whatever reason, since t hey didn't design the watch to USE the WiFi interface to begin with. You'll find out soon enoug.
sfringer said:
Motorola's blog entry includes the presence of WiFi in the update. I wouldn't think they would include it if it wouldn't be present in the watch:
motorola-blog [dot] blogspot [dot] com
[apologies, too new to actually post direct URLs]
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Looks pretty definitive to me...
Simpler, easier and more fun. In the next few weeks, an update is coming to Moto 360 equipped with fun few new features like Wi-Fi connectivity, new gestures and easy-to-draw emojis. That way, you can get more done and have some fun with your watch.
Go Ahead, Put Your Phone Down
Over Wi-Fi, you’ll be able to use your Moto 360 when you are out of Bluetooth range from your phone.
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http://www.ti.com/product/wl1831mod
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Is there any way to avoid this?
Today i got a message informing me about a firmware update that will be performed tomorrow and will limit the battery to 60%.
I don't have the time and patience to go through this exchange programme. Phone is rooted but it has the original stock rom.
Whoa its coming... btw, what version's yours?
Fishdj said:
Whoa its coming... btw, what version's yours?
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SM-930F purchased from Vodafone IRL
vvv1vvv said:
Is there any way to avoid this?
Today i got a message informing me about a firmware update that will be performed tomorrow and will limit the battery to 60%.
I don't have the time and patience to go through this exchange programme. Phone is rooted but it has the original stock rom.
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Yes:
1. Pop a few NZTs.
2. Exchange explosive devise for non-explosive device.
3. Profit
You can use Package Disabler Pro to disable system updates and Knox. That has blocked it on mine.
fogame said:
You can use Package Disabler Pro to disable system updates and Knox. That has blocked it on mine.
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Sounds like a plan.
So i disabled:
Knox (com.sec.knox.switcher)
KnoxAppsUpdateAgent (com.samsung.knox.appsupdateagent)
Software Update (com.sec.android.soagent + com.wssyncmldm)
UrgentFWUpdateSensorHub (com.samsung.firmware.sendorhub)
UrgentFWUpdateTSP(com.samsung.android.firmware.tsp)
Security Policy Update (com.policydm)
Would these do the job? Have you disabled others as well?
Thanks
vvv1vvv said:
Sounds like a plan.
So i disabled:
Knox (com.sec.knox.switcher)
KnoxAppsUpdateAgent (com.samsung.knox.appsupdateagent)
Software Update (com.sec.android.soagent + com.wssyncmldm)
UrgentFWUpdateSensorHub (com.samsung.firmware.sendorhub)
UrgentFWUpdateTSP(com.samsung.android.firmware.tsp)
Security Policy Update (com.policydm)
Would these do the job? Have you disabled others as well?
Thanks
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This has all of what I've disabled. No problems with anything. Just import it. Samsung pay works too. If something you use is disabled you re-enable it.
just got this notification a few moments before!
it says in German that I will get an update tomorrow, which will confirm my phone as safe with the green battery icon (which I do not want nor like btw)!
THE FUNNY THING IS:
my phone was a pre-order from Amazon Germany, I got it on Sept. 1st
so not all early devices are affected!!
Sent from my SM-N930F using XDA-Developers mobile app
fogame said:
This has all of what I've disabled. No problems with anything. Just import it. Samsung pay works too. If something you use is disabled you re-enable it.
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Thanks for the list; it blocked 95 packages, none will be missed.
I've no intention to return the phone, I'll keep it until it explodes or till S8 in February, whichever comes first
TML1504 said:
it says in German that I will get an update tomorrow, which will confirm my phone as safe with the green battery icon (which I do not want nor like btw)!
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you may get the 60% too with the update...
vvv1vvv said:
you may get the 60% too with the update...
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i already thought about that, but why then make 2 different messages??
before i saw the OP message i thought that could be, but now i'm almost sure the messages are based on what IMEI you have, and samsung knows what production charges are affected...
vvv1vvv said:
Thanks for the list; it blocked 95 packages, none will be missed.
I've no intention to return the phone, I'll keep it until it explodes or till S8 in February, whichever comes first
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The link below is where I got the xml from. I added some of my own and removed others but there is an extreme version as well. Most people use the basic but the extreme can work too. It's from the Note 5 forums.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note5/general/guide-bloating-touchwizzing-note-5-t3184563
TML1504 said:
just got this notification a few moments before!
it says in German that I will get an update tomorrow, which will confirm my phone as safe with the green battery icon (which I do not want nor like btw)!
THE FUNNY THING IS:
my phone was a pre-order from Amazon Germany, I got it on Sept. 1st
so not all early devices are affected!!
Sent from my SM-N930F using XDA-Developers mobile app
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So is this saying your phone is safe and battery will go green?
Or is it saying it will change colour to green if it is safe?
gCloud said:
So is this saying your phone is safe and battery will go green?
Or is it saying it will change colour to green if it is safe?
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first one, therefore i'm almost sure my phone will be safe (and go green tomorrow)!
it would be interessting if any german user got a message saying their battery will go to 60% tomorrow...
TML1504 said:
i already thought about that, but why then make 2 different messages??
before i saw the OP message i thought that could be, but now i'm almost sure the messages are based on what IMEI you have, and samsung knows what production charges are affected...
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Could be as you say, i think you put too much faith in them. They just try to cover their behind the best they can.
I provided them with the IMEI when the program started, via a webform because they initially said they will post the replacement and collect the [potential] bomb upon delivery. My issue with them is that now they expect the mobile provider to exchange it. Vodafone said i'll have to give it back and wait until a replacement becomes available (i.e. they don't care).
TML1504 said:
first one, therefore i'm almost sure my phone will be safe (and go green tomorrow)!
it would be interessting if any german user got a message saying their battery will go to 60% tomorrow...
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mine has been replaced but I got the same green battery message in the UK just now. but my phone was manufactured the back end of August, so I would assume some later devices are probably fine anyway.
gCloud said:
So is this saying your phone is safe and battery will go green?
Or is it saying it will change colour to green if it is safe?
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Haha, just wait till the modders will get their hands on it. Nobody will know which one has been replaced.
TML1504 said:
first one, therefore i'm almost sure my phone will be safe (and go green tomorrow)!
it would be interessting if any german user got a message saying their battery will go to 60% tomorrow...
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Good luck tomorrow Keep us posted.
vvv1vvv said:
Haha, just wait till the modders will get their hands on it. Nobody will know which one has been replaced.
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it's probably deep coded in the firmware leading to it needing a root to do since it is also on the power options screen, so all I would assume is rooted devices would be treat as unrepaired.
vvv1vvv said:
Haha, just wait till the modders will get their hands on it. Nobody will know which one has been replaced.
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Yeah i thought that when I first heard about green battery in Korea
Specs:
Model CHUWI Hi9 Plus
CPU MTK6797X Helio X27 Deca Core 20nm
A53*4 2.0 GHz
A53*4 1.6 GHz
GPU ARM Mali-T880 875MHz
System Android 8.0
RAM 4GB DDR3
Capacity 64GB EMMC
Screen 10.8 Inch IPS Capacitive Screen
Resolution 1600x2560
Camera Front is 8.0MP Rear is 8.0MP
Microphone Built-in
Speaker Built-in
WIFI 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac(support 2.4GHz and 5.0 GHz)
Bluetooth 4.2
GPS Support
G-sensor Support
Brand(Network)
GSM: 2/3/5/8(PCS1900.DCS1800.GMS850.GMS900)
WCDMA: 1/2/5/8(2100MHz.1900MH.850MHz.900MHz)
LTE: 1/2/3/5/7/8/20(FDD:2100MHz.1900MHz.
1800MHz.850MHz.2600MHz.900MHz.800MHz)
OTG Support
TF Card Support (Maximum support 128G)
Language Multi-language
I/O Port 1 x USB C port
1 x 3.5mm Earphone port
2 x Micro SIM Card slot
Battery 7000mAh
Weight 550g
Size 266.4*177*8.4mm
Product Website:
Here
How to Update:
Android Security Updates go to Settings >System >System Update >Check for update
Wireless Update (OTA) go to Settings >System >About Tablet >Wireless Update >Check for updates >Download >Install now >OK and System reboot.
Backup NVRAM/IMEI
Downloads:
Pre-shipping (Only flash if your device is broken) Android firmware: https://chuwiinnovationtechnologyshenz.box.com/s/0yuio8ysuvolmpbfp8ox69yqt8em4k0p
Flash tools and Drivers: https://chuwiinnovationtechnologyshenz.box.com/s/yz8brxi6fq5a0ehnysfl50j4966bsy76
Accessories:
Pen
Keyboard (Can't find a link for this one currently)
Development
Treble Supported but A-System partition only
Phh 8.1 GSI is fully functional minus the camera you will also need to set a custom width to make the screen not super tiny or use my edited one below.
Phh 9.0 GSI works but with a few bugs primarily Bluetooth and camera. But also it has a wonky navbar and notification pulldown but those 2 are aosp bugs
I have edited the v25 phh 8.1 gsi and added ro.sf.lcd_density=320 to the build.prop which makes it so the screen isn't super zoomed in. I will work on doing something similar to vendor in the future so its persistent over all gsi's.
Here is the download
Twrp:
I have gotten twrp working on this device, currently, decryption is not supported due to the limited space on the recovery partition. But the keyboard and stylus do work in recovery.
Source:
Custom twrp source
Device tree
Download:
3.2.3-0
Screenshot:
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Thanks for doing this, hope to see how other ROMs function. Can you also test a Pie GSI?
Thanks for this, I'm considering getting this tablet. Could you possibly do a video review? There hasn't been a good one in YouTube yet.
I'm going to assume that you are the only one doing any development with this tablet? Which is fine either way, it just let's me know once I get my tablet, how long the wait will be or expect for custom ROMs. Thanks again.
Dvalin21 said:
Thanks for this, I'm considering getting this tablet. Could you possibly do a video review? There hasn't been a good one in YouTube yet.
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Dvalin21 said:
I'm going to assume that you are the only one doing any development with this tablet? Which is fine either way, it just let's me know once I get my tablet, how long the wait will be or expect for custom ROMs. Thanks again.
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I don't plan on doing a review or anything i got it to do development on it. GSI's are working on it, i am planning on getting a device specific rom up and running soon. Working with the hi9 air and hi9 pro devs to see if we can make something that is compatible on all 3.
Thanks for the update. Can't wait to see all what you come up with!!
I asked them directly about buying the keyboard case separately.
It's not listed on their official Aliexpress store so you have to buy 35 units of "Extra Shipping"
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/pr...l?spm=2114.12010615.8148356.55.63bb4c05f2hzru
And tell them you want a keyboard case.
Oh and thanks for TWRP.
Anyone that hasn't flashed anything yet, can you tell me the current security patch level?
I could swear that I saw June, but after flashing the rom provided by Chuwi it's at February.
Also it seems far more sluggish than it was before flashing.
death_hawk said:
Anyone that hasn't flashed anything yet, can you tell me the current security patch level?
I could swear that I saw June, but after flashing the rom provided by Chuwi it's at February.
Also it seems far more sluggish than it was before flashing.
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Yeah the firmware they provided is older, the one shipped on the device was june i have asked for updated firmware and was told they are working on it.
Oh good I'm not crazy.
I don't suppose you have a backup of the current one?
death_hawk said:
Oh good I'm not crazy.
I don't suppose you have a backup of the current one?
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No sadly, i am in the same boat i assumed the firmware would match what was shipped so i didn't grab one.
Let's hope someone else out there reads this before they flash.
Or Chuwi releases whatever is current.
NA
GSI is apparently doing some amazing work and possibly working around the clock. It's crazy to see that there is a partially working 9.0 rom( or lastest Android version) so soon after device release!
For anyone interested, I found the keyboard for 17 dollars, however the pen still like 27 dollars no matter where you go.
Keyboard
Dvalin21 said:
For anyone interested, I found the keyboard for 17 dollars, however the pen still like 27 dollars no matter where you go.
Keyboard
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The problem about the pen is that you can use the tablet for 2-3 years maybe, nut if you lost the pen is very pobrable that you won't find it online after just 6 month, if it is not a chuwi standard (and as far as I can see it's NOT a standard).
BTW I have problems checking out the keyboard site, are you sure it's a sure online shop?
Thank you!
Diomorgan said:
The problem about the pen is that you can use the tablet for 2-3 years maybe, nut if you lost the pen is very pobrable that you won't find it online after just 6 month, if it is not a chuwi standard (and as far as I can see it's NOT a standard).
BTW I have problems checking out the keyboard site, are you sure it's a sure online shop?
Thank you!
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Everything ive seen on the site checks out, not sure why you would have issue checking it out
Dvalin21 said:
Everything ive seen on the site checks out, not sure why you would have issue checking it out
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I just try and everyting was ok, but $9 shipping fees are pretty high. Grandtotal is ok anyhow due to the very discounted price. This is another addon that you might buy as soon as you can since it's already hard to find.
The rablet is sold at nice price by [email protected] and you can buy the pen as addon for €17 (maybe $20, but you save A LOT on shipping fees!!!)
Diomorgan said:
The problem about the pen is that you can use the tablet for 2-3 years maybe, nut if you lost the pen is very pobrable that you won't find it online after just 6 month, if it is not a chuwi standard (and as far as I can see it's NOT a standard).
BTW I have problems checking out the keyboard site, are you sure it's a sure online shop?
Thank you!
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It's just a normal Wacom active pen, I tried out my Lenovo one and that worked properly on it.