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ATT rep said my recent warranty claim was the 1st one made?

Certainly that can't be right.
Nevertheless, I have to say my experience getting my bricked phone (my fault entirely) replaced throught the ATT warranty dept went very well.
They even included overnight shipping, didn't require me to ship mine back 1st and included a return shipping label for my crapped out phone. I made the claim Friday and received my new phone Monday 11 am.
Well done ATT.

Congratulations!
What can you advise me to do with my bricked phone? I bought my phone from eBay and I live in Israel. I think that will not be able to replace my phone for a new one. Only if I'll send it directly to LG. But will there be something to do?

Machzelet said:
Congratulations!
What can you advise me to do with my bricked phone? I bought my phone from eBay and I live in Israel. I think that will not be able to replace my phone for a new one. Only if I'll send it directly to LG. But will there be something to do?
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Maybe LG but ATT won't do anything for you unless your a customer. And usually warrenty is not outside of the country you got it from.
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I think this particular ATT Rep was smoking salmon...I have returned 2 already due to warranty stuff and will probably be selling the next replacement I get...the rep at my local store wasn't overly enthused with the phone and said that was the consensus.
On a lighter note they were very helpful with getting this taken care of and doing so very quickly...
scott0 said:
Certainly that can't be right.
Nevertheless, I have to say my experience getting my bricked phone (my fault entirely) replaced throught the ATT warranty dept went very well.
They even included overnight shipping, didn't require me to ship mine back 1st and included a return shipping label for my crapped out phone. I made the claim Friday and received my new phone Monday 11 am.
Well done ATT.
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Machzelet said:
Congratulations!
What can you advise me to do with my bricked phone? I bought my phone from eBay and I live in Israel. I think that will not be able to replace my phone for a new one. Only if I'll send it directly to LG. But will there be something to do?
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I don't have AT&T so despite living in the USA, I sent my phone directly to LG. (I use an AT&T MVNO, so I don't get support from AT&T) LG repaired it free of charge and mailed it back. So I guess LG does something right.

fishscale28 said:
I think this particular ATT Rep was smoking salmon...I have returned 2 already due to warranty stuff and will probably be selling the next replacement I get...the rep at my local store wasn't overly enthused with the phone and said that was the consensus.
On a lighter note they were very helpful with getting this taken care of and doing so very quickly...
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what's been the issue(s) with your phones?
Generally, I tend to find local store rep's opinions to be, well, less than they should be. After using this phone for 2+ months I'm unsure why a local store rep would not communicate the benefits of this device as opposed to their lack of enthusiasm for it.

I don't think the phone is so bad...I think there are lots of great things about it. I love the screen, it has the potential to be so quick and snappy and really could be an all around awesome phone...I just realized the fact that updates were going to be a little slower towards this phone and it seemed like making any slight mod (firmware/rom wise) would work but had a much higher failure rate than I think anyone was looking for-hence my looking to move on...
The specific issues with my phone were a short or something that just hard bricked the phone without warning and without any mods...at all. It just turned off one day and nothing could ever, every be done to get it back on. Strange.... the second phone has never been quite right after installing a rom and the boot loops and not being able to reboot was kind of a turn off. Plus the speaker in the earpiece has been a bit wonky so I decided to do a warranty return and then move on from there.
And you're right...some of the reps seem to be way off from what's realistic...you can tell they definitely play favorites and seem to be very partial and unsupportive. But at least they were helpful!

kernelpan1c said:
I don't have AT&T so despite living in the USA, I sent my phone directly to LG. (I use an AT&T MVNO, so I don't get support from AT&T) LG repaired it free of charge and mailed it back. So I guess LG does something right.
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Did you get your repaired phone back? How long did it take? Get me some tips what I need to do, where to send?

Machzelet said:
Did you get your repaired phone back? How long did it take? Get me some tips what I need to do, where to send?
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I called LG Customer Service and told them the device wouldn't power up. (I had done a battery pull and it totally hardware bricked the device.) They had me send it to Stellar Wireless with the Repair Authorization # they gave me. I got it back within 7 business days.

scott0 said:
Certainly that can't be right.
Nevertheless, I have to say my experience getting my bricked phone (my fault entirely) replaced throught the ATT warranty dept went very well.
They even included overnight shipping, didn't require me to ship mine back 1st and included a return shipping label for my crapped out phone. I made the claim Friday and received my new phone Monday 11 am.
Well done ATT.
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Exchanging in a store during your 30 day buyers remorse period is different than exchanging through warranty. You might have exchanged it several times in store, but to AT&T's warranty department, this is the first time. They keep track of how many warranty claims you make, once you get to a certain point they usually allow you to try something different.
As for AT&T store reps, many of them base their opinions on phones on popularity, return rate, etc. The Nitro/Optimus LTE is an awesome phone, but it isn't very popular saleswise.
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kernelpan1c said:
I called LG Customer Service and told them the device wouldn't power up. (I had done a battery pull and it totally hardware bricked the device.) They had me send it to Stellar Wireless with the Repair Authorization # they gave me. I got it back within 7 business days.
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One problem - I live in Israel, and in my country this device is officially not for sale. So I do not know how and where to call and send the device. I have no idea what to do.

AT&T reps were trained to lie to customers. I had to turn in my SGS2 twice for exchange, and both times I was told I was the first to exchange the SGS2.

Machzelet said:
One problem - I live in Israel, and in my country this device is officially not for sale. So I do not know how and where to call and send the device. I have no idea what to do.
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I would go to the LG swebsite and look for a way to contact them about a warranty exchange or repair.
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Warranty Claim or Pay to Repair in the U.S.? Please help me. (SDS involved)

Hello people!
Looks like I might have become the first in the U.S. to experience the SDS issue, at least among those who attend this forum regularly? Because I searched and searched, read and read, and could not find a single sign that anyone in the U.S. has experienced this SDS issue and filed a warranty claim to someone/somewhere. I contacted Samsung USA and they said this device is not supported and they're not trained to provide the support to me, and directed me to their international website... I had not luck with their international website either, so I contacted Amazon seller who I bought my N7100 from. And they have not replied in the past couple days...
So I wanted to see if anyone here has imported his/her n7100 into the U.S. and happened to encounter any issue with the phone and successfully filed warranty claim against Samsung. If so, how can that be done?
Worst case scenario, I pay to repair n7100 in the U.S., who should I go to? Or do I have to send the phone overseas either way?
Many thanks in advance.

bump for help please :crying:

I did not import my phone, I got it from Sprint, BUT..................given the choice, ship it back to Korea for Warranty!!! Have you ever a conversation with repair tech's in most mobile shops here??? And even with TEP they will give you every excuse how YOU messed it up or dropped and and your claim is denied.
If you send it back and likely they will get you someone that actually BUILDS the note's, original part, or give you a brand new (not referb) Note!!
This is JMO! Good Luck!!

Thanks for your reply. However, who would I contact before I ship it to Korea? I'd guess I'll have to have Samsung open an RMA for me or something?

Hi
if you have N7100 SDS,,Usually You Need Replace eMMC....
I Have and i can replace eMMC ,,,Please Read :http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/9306319-post324.html
i'm product manager on RIFF-Jtag Box and I can do it,,,Plz Contact Me Via eMail or Sonork
[email protected]
Thanks

Thanks for the info. How much do you charge for the repair though? Also, where am I gonna send it to? Your location shown under your name or did you implicate (if you implicated at all) that you have stores in the U.S.?

How long have you had the phone? Is it within 30-day return period? For return/replacement reasons I only buy items from Amazon that are Prime Eligible even if the non-Prime ones are dirt cheap.

clearday said:
How long have you had the phone? Is it within 30-day return period? For return/replacement reasons I only buy items from Amazon that are Prime Eligible even if the non-Prime ones are dirt cheap.
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I wish! :crying: I've had it for well over 5 months. It wasn't prime even tho I do have prime membership, because at the time I bought it, only ones available are from all kinds of importers/sellers that sell THRU amazon. Even though it's prime (fulfilled by Amazon), im not sure if it's Amazon that you can contact for warranty claim after 5 months, because it is not sold by Amazon but only "fulfilled".
It's unlucky to say the least. It is essentially "mistake by mistakes" made by me. I shouldn't have assumed that there should be no issue like SDS on an Samsung device; I shouldn't have assumed that if something happens, it's easy as a breeze to just call Samsung UK to get things fixed; I shouldn't have assumed that the seller I chose on Amazon is willing to help me if Samsung UK and Samsung USA kicks me back n forth; etc etc...
Bad assumptions, bad luck.
If anyone had any experience with this, please please help me :good:. I swear I'm not gonna be so trusting next time. I will buy from a seller that's known to be helpful with their customers' warranty claim, i.e., expansys. I would even buy a carrier subsidized phone just for the sake of the proper support. I thought the worst case with this dead phone for me was to pay high bills to fix it and sell it to cover partial cost, but now it looks like the worse case is that I don't know where to go to fix it...

cswithxda said:
I wish! :crying: I've had it for well over 5 months. It wasn't prime even tho I do have prime membership, because at the time I bought it, only ones available are from all kinds of importers/sellers that sell THRU amazon. Even though it's prime (fulfilled by Amazon), im not sure if it's Amazon that you can contact for warranty claim after 5 months, because it is not sold by Amazon but only "fulfilled".
It's unlucky to say the least. It is essentially "mistake by mistakes" made by me. I shouldn't have assumed that there should be no issue like SDS on an Samsung device; I shouldn't have assumed that if something happens, it's easy as a breeze to just call Samsung UK to get things fixed; I shouldn't have assumed that the seller I chose on Amazon is willing to help me if Samsung UK and Samsung USA kicks me back n forth; etc etc...
Bad assumptions, bad luck.
If anyone had any experience with this, please please help me :good:. I swear I'm not gonna be so trusting next time. I will buy from a seller that's known to be helpful with their customers' warranty claim, i.e., expansys. I would even buy a carrier subsidized phone just for the sake of the proper support. I thought the worst case with this dead phone for me was to pay high bills to fix it and sell it to cover partial cost, but now it looks like the worse case is that I don't know where to go to fix it...
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Sorry about the warranty bro. By the way, I've successfully returned items to sellers without problems even when it was only fulfilled by amazon. One instance was an order of 750gb seagate xt HD, to which I received a 60gb HD instead. Contacted the seller, got no response, contacted Amazon and I was immediately issued an RMA.
As far as requesting support from warranty, knock on wood, I haven't such experience yet with items purchased from amazon.
Good luck man, hopefully someone can help you in this forum.

clearday said:
Sorry about the warranty bro. By the way, I've successfully returned items to sellers without problems even when it was only fulfilled by amazon. One instance was an order of 750gb seagate xt HD, to which I received a 60gb HD instead. Contacted the seller, got no response, contacted Amazon and I was immediately issued an RMA.
As far as requesting support from warranty, knock on wood, I haven't such experience yet with items purchased from amazon.
Good luck man, hopefully someone can help you in this forum.
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Thanks for the kind words man. If you have a note 2 just remember to update whenever it's possible and avoid ending up like me hah...

Hey cswithxda, I have the same situation. Bought a N7100 from Amazon a few months ago (around November) and everything was fine until this afternoon when it was just off. Tried turning it on but I'm just getting the dim red light that flashes slowly when I press the power button. Charging light is off and the phone appears absolutely dead.
A while ago I checked to see if I have a vulnerable chip, and it was positive.
Samsung's live chat said they don't support international products.
I might go to one of those repair places tomorrow to see if they can diagnose the phone. Then I might see if Samsung USA will even look at it, or else I might send it to UK or Korea?
What have you done since your phone suffered from the SDS?

Gordon. said:
Hey cswithxda, I have the same situation. Bought a N7100 from Amazon a few months ago (around November) and everything was fine until this afternoon when it was just off. Tried turning it on but I'm just getting the dim red light that flashes slowly when I press the power button. Charging light is off and the phone appears absolutely dead.
A while ago I checked to see if I have a vulnerable chip, and it was positive.
Samsung's live chat said they don't support international products.
I might go to one of those repair places tomorrow to see if they can diagnose the phone. Then I might see if Samsung USA will even look at it, or else I might send it to UK or Korea?
What have you done since your phone suffered from the SDS?
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Sorry about your unlucky situation.
By repair places, do you mean Samsung support center or something? I talked to Samsung USA also and they wouldn't even talk to me if I tell them the model number (n7100). So I really don't know where I should go now. I contacted original seller and the help was minimal (telling me to contact Samsung).
I would like to send it to either UK or Korea, as long as it can be repaired, or even better, if it can be repaired under warranty.
Let me know what you find out with repair places.
Also, I did not know about SDS after my phone's dead. So I had been suffering from hangs/freezes but thought it was only software problem and was being lazy about re-flashing it. I wish I'd come here more often when the phone was in a good condition, not after it died... Anyway, after I got to know that it's been SDS'd, I contacted seller, SamUK, SamUSA without any luck. It is just amazing how much we are unsupported in this situation. As large as Samsung has become, how hard can it be for them to just provide global repair services (if not warranty services)

BABAK236 said:
Hi
if you have N7100 SDS,,Usually You Need Replace eMMC....
I Have and i can replace eMMC ,,,Please Read :http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/9306319-post324.html
i'm product manager on RIFF-Jtag Box and I can do it,,,Plz Contact Me Via eMail or Sonork
[email protected]
Thanks
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$150 for an emmc chip?
How much does whole motherboard itself cost

I'm about to go to a phone repair place for a diagnostic test and see if they can do anything. I'll let you know what I find.
I was surprised to read that Samsung UK didn't wasn't helpful, since this phone is sold there. As a last-case scenario I was thinking of sending my phone to a friend over there and sending it in for repair.

Okay, as of today I sent the phone to a friend in the UK who was kind enough to let me use his address. It really sucks from having the best, most powerful phone to nothing, but I will likely pick up a Nexus 4 to use. I don't regret purchasing the phone since I wanted to have the best and it needed to be unlocked, but in the future I will be more cautious about buying one without local warranty.
I just hope the phone is 'dead' enough so the fact that I rooted it isn't detected.
What have you done with yours? I imagine it'll take ~2 weeks for my package to get shipped across the pond, and then I'll calculate 1.5 months for repair. I'll keep you posted on how it goes; maybe it's an option to get yours repaired there too?

Gordon. said:
Okay, as of today I sent the phone to a friend in the UK who was kind enough to let me use his address. It really sucks from having the best, most powerful phone to nothing, but I will likely pick up a Nexus 4 to use. I don't regret purchasing the phone since I wanted to have the best and it needed to be unlocked, but in the future I will be more cautious about buying one without local warranty.
I just hope the phone is 'dead' enough so the fact that I rooted it isn't detected.
What have you done with yours? I imagine it'll take ~2 weeks for my package to get shipped across the pond, and then I'll calculate 1.5 months for repair. I'll keep you posted on how it goes; maybe it's an option to get yours repaired there too?
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I bought a nexus 4 as well lol. I really needed a phone and it was cheap! :good: The experience has been as good as on N7100. 4.2.2 is even smoother now.
I have been caught up with school works and sth else in life, so I haven't really tried anything else yet. Samsung UK sent me an email that I cannot reply (automated email system), gave me a link to the list of Samsung regional supports (hell, they think I cannot find that on my own?!), and nothing more. Samsung USA just slammed the door in my face, basically saying "no, good luck" when I tried live support on their website. So now I am still trying to get my original seller into this and help me, but they haven't replied in the past 2 weeks.
I wish I had a friend in UK!
BTW, when you bought your phone thru Amazon, did you notice where the phone came from? I'm not sure where my came from now.. It has German, French, and Italian user guide in it, but on the warranty card, it seems to be written in German and Slovenian. And Samsung Electronics Austria GmbH is the only thing I can read (those long, long german words are giving me a headache :silly: ) It talked about three regions - Austria, Slovenia, and Switzerland (thanks to Google Translate). So it looks like this phone might come from Austria. I am not sure if it still can be sent to UK for repair.

Well my friend in the UK really only has to drop it in his mail and then accept it when it comes back. I'll let you know how it goes because he might be able to help you too. I'm pretty sure mine came from California (Amazon seller WorldWide Distributors). But the firmware version on the phone was from Brazil or Panama.
I made an account on Samsung UK's site and it accepted the model number, serial number and IMEI number so despite not being from the region, it should be good. Did you do anything to your phone just before it died? I think that installing MIUI with kernel 4.1.1 was the insult that triggered it all for me. I should've realized the vulnerability but assumed the newest version would have the SDS fix included.
I was thinking about bringing it to a cell phone repair place for diagnosis, but it didn't have water damage or broken screen so I doubt they could have helped.
Being optimistic, not having a good cell phone is really allowing me to focus on my final USMLE studies!

Gordon. said:
Well my friend in the UK really only has to drop it in his mail and then accept it when it comes back. I'll let you know how it goes because he might be able to help you too. I'm pretty sure mine came from California (Amazon seller WorldWide Distributors). But the firmware version on the phone was from Brazil or Panama.
I made an account on Samsung UK's site and it accepted the model number, serial number and IMEI number so despite not being from the region, it should be good. Did you do anything to your phone just before it died? I think that installing MIUI with kernel 4.1.1 was the insult that triggered it all for me. I should've realized the vulnerability but assumed the newest version would have the SDS fix included.
I was thinking about bringing it to a cell phone repair place for diagnosis, but it didn't have water damage or broken screen so I doubt they could have helped.
Being optimistic, not having a good cell phone is really allowing me to focus on my final USMLE studies!
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WOW good luck with the exam, i used to do premed but changed my major my GPA wasn't good enough
Anyway, that's for sure a better news. It looks like Samsung UK does not screen off phone bought outside of UK support region (if yours was from Mid/latin america.
Please definitely update this, if this works out I'll follow your path. Thanks for being the first in this case and helping the rest of us!

Gordon. said:
Hey cswithxda, I have the same situation. Bought a N7100 from Amazon a few months ago (around November) and everything was fine until this afternoon when it was just off. Tried turning it on but I'm just getting the dim red light that flashes slowly when I press the power button. Charging light is off and the phone appears absolutely dead.
A while ago I checked to see if I have a vulnerable chip, and it was positive.
Samsung's live chat said they don't support international products.
I might go to one of those repair places tomorrow to see if they can diagnose the phone. Then I might see if Samsung USA will even look at it, or else I might send it to UK or Korea?
What have you done since your phone suffered from the SDS?
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How did you check for vulnerable chip?

Gordon. said:
I made an account on Samsung UK's site and it accepted the model number, serial number and IMEI number so despite not being from the region, it should be good. Did you do anything to your phone just before it died? I think that installing MIUI with kernel 4.1.1 was the insult that triggered it all for me. I should've realized the vulnerability but assumed the newest version would have the SDS fix included.
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Oh btw, I don't think anything triggered the issue, it was just there from the beginning I didn't even install anything new for at least 2 months before the phone died. Just normal daily use - web browsing, call, SMS, mobile IM, etc. I did start experiencing random freezes about 2 weeks before the phone died, and it became much more frequent towards the end of its life.
clearday said:
How did you check for vulnerable chip?
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Search "SDS xda" on google, and you'll find a ton of info. I didn't know about this issue before my phone died, so I never bothered to check if the chip in my phone was defective hehe..

HTC One - Manufacturer warranty?

A friend gave me an HTC One thats useless to him since the battery wont accept a charge whatsoever.
It powers on and everything when its plugged in, but it dies immediately if its unplugged.
The phone still has a year left on the manufacturer warranty, but im clueless to HTCs rules/policy/procedure. I am not the original owner and have no papers or proof of purchase. Would I still be able to send it in as is? Or do I need some paperwork etc?
Thanks for any help.

I wasn't the original owner on my phone when I sent it in, and I didn't have to provide any proof of purchase or anything. I just had to pay for shipping to them.
They asked if I could take it to my service provider (VZW), and I said no I couldn't because I wasn't the original owner and they just said Ok, and started on my claim. I did it through online chat - not sure if phone service would be the same or not.

carngeX said:
I wasn't the original owner on my phone when I sent it in, and I didn't have to provide any proof of purchase or anything. I just had to pay for shipping to them.
They asked if I could take it to my service provider (VZW), and I said no I couldn't because I wasn't the original owner and they just said Ok, and started on my claim. I did it through online chat - not sure if phone service would be the same or not.
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Yep, the devices is the one that gets the warranty regardless of who bought it. they track it with the IMIE that is on the phone.
OP i would suggest you talk to HTC, they are normally good about helping with HW failures like you stated. Couldn't hurt to ask.

Ahh ok, good to know, thanks Synister

I had similar experince, not orginal owner and they will accept RMA if phone is under warrenty.
You pay shipping to them, they cover shipping it back to you..

You don't even need proof of purchase. My wife had to use the advantage screen replacement and the Rep said when the phone first gets programmed, it sends the info to HTC, so they know when the phone was bought.
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So I went ahead and did the live chat. I got disconnected twice (who knows why) but they had a record of the convo etc.
Anyway, went through the process to confirm it wouldnt take charge and am sending it in. Pretty cool.
Initially I opted in for the refurbished replacement and then mentioned it had a cracked screen. I got excited for a moment thinking the warranty coverage may actually accept it and they would send a non-cracked refurb . As expected though, no go there so im just gonna get the battery fixed.
Thanks for the help everyone.

jet2k said:
So I went ahead and did the live chat. I got disconnected twice (who knows why) but they had a record of the convo etc.
Anyway, went through the process to confirm it wouldnt take charge and am sending it in. Pretty cool.
Initially I opted in for the refurbished replacement and then mentioned it had a cracked screen. I got excited for a moment thinking the warranty coverage may actually accept it and they would send a non-cracked refurb . As expected though, no go there so im just gonna get the battery fixed.
Thanks for the help everyone.
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Did you ask about the free screen replacement for the phone? maybe while they are fixing the screen they will do the battery too? I know some people are saying its only 6 months for the screen but i did convince a friend to try and they are going to fix his One Max screen and he's owned it for 8 months. worth a try.

Can't get the phone into fastboot at all

Hello. trying to relock bootloader to return to bestbuy and for the life of me I cannot get the phone into fastboot with adb. I have USB Debugging on, the computer authorized through the phone, but fastboot devices doesn't do anything. I can't even flash a factory image. I can even get it to show up with adb devices but that's all I can do. I have all the drivers installed and am plugging into the back of the windows 10 computer and also tried two different cables. I'm not sure what to try next. I also cannot get it to go into fastboot with power and vol+. Phone works great otherwise. Nothing wrong with it.

You're typing adb reboot-bootloader? And that doesn't do anything?

Okay I'm an idiot. That was the problem. I was typing in fastboot devices. Still weird how the factory image wouldn't send it to bootloader.

spudsmac said:
Okay I'm an idiot. That was the problem. I was typing in fastboot devices. Still weird how the factory image wouldn't send it to bootloader.
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Are you getting a replacement or simply returning? Curious because I think I might be taking mine back. To many issues. Part of me wants to get another one but if it comes with 7.1.1 and I can't unlock bootloader I'd return for good anyways and skip this phone.

aholeinthewor1d said:
Are you getting a replacement or simply returning? Curious because I think I might be taking mine back. To many issues. Part of me wants to get another one but if it comes with 7.1.1 and I can't unlock bootloader I'd return for good anyways and skip this phone.
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I just got a new one from best buy last week for my wife. Hers came with the October build on it.

aholeinthewor1d said:
Are you getting a replacement or simply returning? Curious because I think I might be taking mine back. To many issues. Part of me wants to get another one but if it comes with 7.1.1 and I can't unlock bootloader I'd return for good anyways and skip this phone.
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I'm going to try to return because I don't like the locked bootloader and I also think the Pixel XL is too big. It's hard to use with one hand and I'm afraid I'm going to drop it. I'm on my Note 3 until my Pixel comes in from google, but I actually don't mind the Note 3 since the bootloader is now unlocked for Verizon. There's a lot of good roms out now. I don't know if I can step back to the Note 3 camera from the Pixel and 6P before....

toknitup420 said:
I just got a new one from best buy last week for my wife. Hers came with the October build on it.
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Haven't returned anything to best but before what did you tell them? Did you have to show them the issue? Reason I ask is because I was in there black Friday and the 2 people in the mobile department were very rude to the point where I got in an argument with them and had to talk to the manager. I just wanna at least try getting a new one before returning for good. Was there a restocking fee or anything

aholeinthewor1d said:
Haven't returned anything to best but before what did you tell them? Did you have to show them the issue? Reason I ask is because I was in there black Friday and the 2 people in the mobile department were very rude to the point where I got in an argument with them and had to talk to the manager. I just wanna at least try getting a new one before returning for good. Was there a restocking fee or anything
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I'm about to head there now. I'll update when I get back. I have a scuff on the phone so I hope they let me return.

spudsmac said:
I'm about to head there now. I'll update when I get back. I have a scuff on the phone so I hope they let me return.
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Good luck! Keep me posted I'm gonna head there tomorrow. Not even sure if they have any in stock. I don't know if they are gonna make me show them the issues or tell me to call Google support first.. or if they will simply swap it out.
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Crap I just realized I bought mine online..

aholeinthewor1d said:
Haven't returned anything to best but before what did you tell them? Did you have to show them the issue? Reason I ask is because I was in there black Friday and the 2 people in the mobile department were very rude to the point where I got in an argument with them and had to talk to the manager. I just wanna at least try getting a new one before returning for good. Was there a restocking fee or anything
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Hers was a new one that I ordered. But I've returned phones to them a bunch of times with no issues. I replaced my wife's old 6p twice at best buy. They just gave me a new one off the shelf both times.

They would not return it because it was outside of the 14 day return policy. Their return policy with the holiday season is ambiguous but I'm stuck with it now. Maybe I'll try to sell on swappa and get a Pixel or go back to my Note 3.

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Haven't returned anything to best but before what did you tell them? Did you have to show them the issue? Reason I ask is because I was in there black Friday and the 2 people in the mobile department were very rude to the point where I got in an argument with them and had to talk to the manager. I just wanna at least try getting a new one before returning for good. Was there a restocking fee or anything
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So I managed to return it today. I brought in the return policy from online which shows off contract phones are under the holiday return policy. There might be a $35 restocking fee though. I had someone more competent today than last night.

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So I managed to return it today. I brought in the return policy from online which shows off contract phones are under the holiday return policy. There might be a $35 restocking fee though. I had someone more competent today than last night.
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I actually got really lucky yesterday. I looked online and the only best buy that had them in stock was an hour and 10 minutes away from me. I called customer service to confirm. So then I wanted to talk to someone IN the actual store before driving there and confirm the return process and also make sure it was there. Figured out that if you call your local best buys number it's nearly impossible to get someone from that actual store and not customer service. I pretended to have a question for the Geek squad and once I got them on the line asked for the mobile department.
So I talked with them and confirmed they had it..told him what was happening with mine and he said it was no problem and he will set one aside for me. He mentioned something about "processing the return" so I wanted to clarify with him what was gonna happen. Best buys $10 a month deal is different than Verizon's. I was worried that if he processed my return and did the purchase from scratch that it might somehow mess this loop hole up and I'd be stuck with Verizon's 2 year bill credits. Thankfully this guy was familiar with EXACTLY what I was talking about. He said they don't know how it is different than Verizon's deal but said he is totally aware of it. So he said he would talk with someone about the exchange process and call me back. Over an hour later I had to call them again. He told me I had two options and he said the first option is something they aren't really supposed to do. He told me they would literally just swap them out and not process any kind of return/exchange with Verizon. He said the only downside to this would be if I ever wanted to trade the phone into Verizon I wouldn't be able to because the one on my DPP would be the original IMEI not the replacements' IMEI. Second option was to process a return and set it all up from scratch. He said we would then have to call Verizon to fix the pricing and get me the $10 deal and that it most likely would be with Verizon's bill credits though.
Naturally I jumped on the first option and told him I'd be right there. Then I asked if I HAD to activate the replacement there and he said "yea that's normally how they have to do it". I then explaied to him how I can't unlock the bootloader if it installs the software update during setup so I need to take the SIM out and skip the setup so I could unlock with my computer at home. Again he knew exactly what I was taking about and said he would ask the other guy again and call me back. 10 minutes later he called back and said "yea we can do that it won't be a problem" so I told him I'd head up there right then.
So I get there and it was as simple as handing him my box (they didn't even look it in).. he did some kind of magic on his computer.. as he was doing this I opened the new one..took out the SIM and skipped through the setup..enabled developer options and turned off automatic updates.. then he gave me a receipt and that was it!
What started out as a confusing nightmare because no stores had them in stock so I was worried about a replacement shipping with the new software.. ended up working out easier and better than I could have imagined.
I got so LUCKY that I dealt with the person I did at that Best Buy becasue the people at my best buy would have been clueless and not done anything like this for me.
Phone is already unlocked and updated now

aholeinthewor1d said:
I actually got really lucky yesterday. I looked online and the only best buy that had them in stock was an hour and 10 minutes away from me. I called customer service to confirm. So then I wanted to talk to someone IN the actual store before driving there and confirm the return process and also make sure it was there. Figured out that if you call your local best buys number it's nearly impossible to get someone from that actual store and not customer service. I pretended to have a question for the Geek squad and once I got them on the line asked for the mobile department.
So I talked with them and confirmed they had it..told him what was happening with mine and he said it was no problem and he will set one aside for me. He mentioned something about "processing the return" so I wanted to clarify with him what was gonna happen. Best buys $10 a month deal is different than Verizon's. I was worried that if he processed my return and did the purchase from scratch that it might somehow mess this loop hole up and I'd be stuck with Verizon's 2 year bill credits. Thankfully this guy was familiar with EXACTLY what I was talking about. He said they don't know how it is different than Verizon's deal but said he is totally aware of it. So he said he would talk with someone about the exchange process and call me back. Over an hour later I had to call them again. He told me I had two options and he said the first option is something they aren't really supposed to do. He told me they would literally just swap them out and not process any kind of return/exchange with Verizon. He said the only downside to this would be if I ever wanted to trade the phone into Verizon I wouldn't be able to because the one on my DPP would be the original IMEI not the replacements' IMEI. Second option was to process a return and set it all up from scratch. He said we would then have to call Verizon to fix the pricing and get me the $10 deal and that it most likely would be with Verizon's bill credits though.
Naturally I jumped on the first option and told him I'd be right there. Then I asked if I HAD to activate the replacement there and he said "yea that's normally how they have to do it". I then explaied to him how I can't unlock the bootloader if it installs the software update during setup so I need to take the SIM out and skip the setup so I could unlock with my computer at home. Again he knew exactly what I was taking about and said he would ask the other guy again and call me back. 10 minutes later he called back and said "yea we can do that it won't be a problem" so I told him I'd head up there right then.
So I get there and it was as simple as handing him my box (they didn't even look it in).. he did some kind of magic on his computer.. as he was doing this I opened the new one..took out the SIM and skipped through the setup..enabled developer options and turned off automatic updates.. then he gave me a receipt and that was it!
What started out as a confusing nightmare because no stores had them in stock so I was worried about a replacement shipping with the new software.. ended up working out easier and better than I could have imagined.
I got so LUCKY that I dealt with the person I did at that Best Buy becasue the people at my best buy would have been clueless and not done anything like this for me.
Phone is already unlocked and updated now
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Glad it worked out. Expecting my Google Store Pixel to come in Monday.

RMA Hell with Google Support (Non Google Play device)

Hopefully, I will find help here.
ADDED INFO:
- Phone was bought from a local shop which is an authorized Bell dealer. The phone was bought off contract at full price. The phone was not bought from Google Play Store
So since I've opened the case with Google Support (from the settings menu on the phone). It's been almost two week. Here's the rundown.
I’ve contacted them three times, I have to repeat the same issues over and over. Google Support confirmed me that they were a call center located in the Philippines.
-Call #1: Talked to Nate (amazing dude) said that he was going to print me the RMA to send the labels to my email. I have to send the phone first and then I'll get the replacement soon. There was a problem to produce my RMA labels. He said he will call me back with a solution. He called me back saying there was an issue will escalated the issue.
Waited 3 days
-Call #2: I contacted them another time since I didn’t get any updates since. They ask to verify my account by providing them the 4 last digits of my credit card? Again, repeat the same thing. They can't generate the RMA tag. The issue has been escalated since the day of the call.
-Call #3: They asked me the IMEI of my Nexus 5 (lol what ?)... Again guy can't generate the tag. The issue has been escalated since a while now. I’m super sad.
- Chat session #1 and #2: Talked with a supervisor says he will get back to me with a solution. Sent me two emails, then silence. Same deal.
So far… very disappointed with Google. I mean, I didn’t buy it from the Google Play store, but I was expecting some premium level of customer service at that price tag. Hell, I could walk into a Apple or Samsung store and get it replaced.
I cannot believe that I'm getting this kind of service from a company like that.
UPDATE of January 30th
- Label was finally processed on January 24th
- Phone was shipped on January 25th
- Google received my Pixel on January 27th
- Google Shipping department confirmed they approved the replacement, I should expect my shipping tag in 1 -2 business days.[/I]
UPDATE of February 07
- I did not receive my phone. I have many exchanges with Google but nothing sent out yet. Just support saying its 'in process or has been escalated'

I feel the same way when I try and chat amazon support. I work in tech support for the other A company so I know how to be clear and simple when contacting support. I tell them my issue and provide ant details they will need like my order number. They respond back asking for my order number..

Don't ever use email or chat with Amazon. Call them. It's not easy to find the number on their site but its there. BTW, their # 1 (888) 280-4331
To the OP, if you didn't buy from Google did you buy from VZ? If not, where did you get it? If not an authorized seller, that may be your problem.
Just curious, what is the problem with the phone?

Waibashi said:
Hopefully, I will find help here.
So since I've opened the case with Google Support (from the settings menu on the phone). It's been almost two week. Here's the rundown.
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I cannot believe that I'm getting this kind of service from a company like that.
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Why do you think you will find help here? This is XDA not Google. Something is missing in your story and I'm not sure what it is. I'm also not sure what Apple and Samsung have to do with this. Or then again...

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Why do you think you will find help here? This is XDA not Google. Something is missing in your story and I'm not sure what it is. I'm also not sure what Apple and Samsung have to do with this. Or then again...
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I'm looking to see if others did an RMA with a non-Google Play purchased phone to sum it up. Also, if they had the same troubles that I got.

Mike02z said:
Don't ever use email or chat with Amazon. Call them. It's not easy to find the number on their site but its there. BTW, their # 1 (888) 280-4331
To the OP, if you didn't buy from Google did you buy from VZ? If not, where did you get it? If not an authorized seller, that may be your problem.
Just curious, what is the problem with the phone?
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Massive burn-in on the three softkey buttons. I can see them everywhere except the home screen. Indeed, I bought the phone from a local shop downtown which isn't Verizon.

I hate I have to ask this... but is it real? I mean buy a super popular phone from a random vendor for all we know the guy could have dropped it in the toilet then repackaged, could be flipping damaged units from ebay, **** there might even be fake ones idk. The point is without a vendor we know anything about it's hard to say with certainty that it is google's fault.

Waibashi said:
Massive burn-in on the three softkey buttons. I can see them everywhere except the home screen. Indeed, I bought the phone from a local shop downtown which isn't Verizon.
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Well that clears it up a bit. You might want to go down to your local shop and demand a refund or open a BBB case against them if they refuse. I, personally, have never seen a local shop selling a Pixel or an XL. Why would you do that? Nonetheless, you can't blame Google, as you did in the OP, if they won't warranty a third party sale. Apple would repair and replace it for free? I think not.

Regardless of where it was purchased, Google should back up their hardware as it still has a Manufacturer's warranty. Besides, Google themselves already took responsibility of the replacement in the first call with Nate.
This is somewhat pathetic customer support.

tdct12 said:
I hate I have to ask this... but is it real? I mean buy a super popular phone from a random vendor for all we know the guy could have dropped it in the toilet then repackaged, could be flipping damaged units from ebay, **** there might even be fake ones idk. The point is without a vendor we know anything about it's hard to say with certainty that it is google's fault.
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It's 100% legit. The phone isn't a cheap Chinese knockoff. I verified the model number with my friend and they both match. Google says there is no problem with the warranty of the phone just it can't generate the shipping labels for me to send back the device.
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Well that clears it up a bit. You might want to go down to your local shop and demand a refund or open a BBB case against them if they refuse. I, personally, have never seen a local shop selling a Pixel or an XL. Why would you do that? Nonetheless, you can't blame Google, as you did in the OP, if they won't warranty a third party sale. Apple would repair and replace it for free? I think not.
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I will try to contact the local shop where it was originally purchased but it's past the 30 days warranty. I bought this phone second hand and the previous owner has been a real gentleman by constantly providing me info and receipts one his purchase. It has been 3 weeks, and he's still contacting me to know if the issue as been resolved. The local shop is an authorized Bell dealer and carries the Google Pixel XL and Pixel. He bought it off contract, full price.
I dunno why you get so fired up with this, I'm not dishing anything on Google, I'm just trying to find someone with the same issue. Plus, even if let's the phone has "something" wrong with it... 2 weeks and no answer from a company is unacceptable. Also, why I purchased from secondhand? Because I've saved over 500$ instead of purchasing it through Google Play store because here in Canada they go for 1207.05$ with taxes.
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Regardless of where it was purchased, Google should back up their hardware as it still has a Manufacturer's warranty. Besides, Google themselves already took responsibility of the replacement in the first call with Nate.
This is somewhat pathetic customer support.
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I agree. But even if I call them up, it's still the same discussion over and over. I can't even escalate this issue, I don't know where to find a mailing address for it.

Something still just doesn't seem right. Not generating a shipping label is no reason to not have an RMA number. (wow triple negative) Meaning you should have an rma number nonetheless. Ship it yourself at that point. I don't believe they ever had a return authorization for you which is why you are now stuck with the device. Second, you bought it from a Bell authorized store yet you have the contact of the original seller? So this store sells second hand / used phones? What the heck kind of store does that, a consignment store? It's time to either realize that you have a defective device and live with it (after all you did save $500) or contact the store and/or seller for a refund. I believe Google has figured out what happened and will not support a second hand device. Could be wrong and you will magically have some luck but I wouldn't count on it. That's why they are avoiding your calls.

I had this problem with the first gen Moto 360, I bought it off Amazon but apparently not from Amazon and they wouldn't repair a screen defect under warranty. They verified it was genuine but they wouldn't fix it.
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Link to Google's Warranty document:
https://support.google.com/store/troubleshooter/3070579?hl=en#ts=7168940,7169349
Google warrants that a new Phone (including any ancillary parts that may be packaged with it) will be free from defects in materials and workmanship under normal use in accordance with Google’s published user documentation for one year from the date of original retail purchase in its original packaging by you. If a Phone has been refurbished, Google warrants that the Phone (including any ancillary parts that may be packaged with it) will be free from defects in materials and workmanship under normal use in accordance with Google’s published user documentation for ninety days from the date of retail purchase by you (these warranties are collectively referred to as our “Limited Warranty”).
This Limited Warranty is only valid and enforceable in locations the Phone is sold and will apply only if you purchased your Phone from Google or its authorized resellers. This Limited Warranty only applies to hardware components (and not any software elements) of the Phone, and this Limited Warranty does not apply to damage caused by normal wear and tear, accidents, misuse (including failure to follow product documentation), neglect, disassembly, alterations, servicing other than by Google authorized technicians, and external causes such as, but not limited to, water damage, anomalies in the electrical current supplied to the device, and extreme thermal or environmental conditions. This Limited Warranty does not guarantee that use of the Phone will be uninterrupted or error free.
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Based upon this it seems to me that used devices aren't covered under warranty, there's no mention of transfer of warranty that I can find in the document though local laws may govern here. I could imagine things would be even more dire if a phone was purchased within the US and sold outside of it.

Time to get your money back. Maybe the original owner can get it fixed and then sell it back to you. Good luck.
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bobby janow said:
Time to get your money back. Maybe the original owner can get it fixed and then sell it back to you. Good luck.
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I think you're out of luck. Google can rest on its warranty fine print.
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It's a simple fact Google is no apple but have the nerve to charge the same price. Wannabe apple!
I've had issues with Google before and have lost confidence in their customer services.
Keep pestering them until they sort out even write to them. Speak to manager demand to speak to managenent, it's completely unexceptable ignoring your issue.

riz157 said:
It's a simple fact Google is no apple but have the nerve to charge the same price. Wannabe apple!
I've had issues with Google before and have lost confidence in their customer services.
Keep pestering them until they sort out even write to them. Speak to manager demand to speak to managenent, it's completely unexceptable ignoring your issue.
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He did not buy it from an authorized dealer. He is SOL. Check the warranty. It sucks for him but no one here can help him. He needs to work with the seller, not Google. The warranty was violated. That's game over from a Google perspective.

riz157 said:
It's a simple fact Google is no apple but have the nerve to charge the same price. Wannabe apple!
I've had issues with Google before and have lost confidence in their customer services.
Keep pestering them until they sort out even write to them. Speak to manager demand to speak to managenent, it's completely unexceptable ignoring your issue.
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Apple would not do anything different than what Google did. Don't kid yourself. They also have a right to sell their phones for whatever price they want. You don't like it, don't buy it. We got spoiled with the older devices but that ship has sailed. The OP needs to realize he got screwed in order to save a few hundred bucks. It was a gamble that he lost.
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Mike02z said:
He did not buy it from an authorized dealer. He is SOL. Check the warranty. It sucks for him but no one here can help him. He needs to work with the seller, not Google. The warranty was violated. That's game over from a Google perspective.
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You can walk into Apple store whether you bought it from your uncle or an alien, as long as it's not reported stolen and within warranty your issue will be resolved.
Google is a bit of a joke simple as that, btw I'm an android fan but not a fanboy of any particular company. I just don't like people being ripped off.

riz157 said:
You can walk into Apple store whether you bought it from your uncle or an alien, as long as it's not reported stolen and within warranty your issue will be resolved.
Google is a bit of a joke simple as that, btw I'm an android fan but not a fanboy of any particular company. I just don't like people being ripped off.
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Really? Walk right in and get an exchange? You mean after you have to schedule with a "genious"? So I make my appointment and they run the IMEI and find it has a block? Think they will replace it? You may not like the Google warranty but you accepted it when you purchased the phone. I know most don't read it but that is Google's fault?
And what does the OP think anyone here can do to help him except to suggest he take it back? They saved some money and now he has a problem. Saving money is great but it comes with a risk.