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Play Store Purchase Nightmare...

I recently purchased a GSM Galaxy Nexus from the Google Play Store which I am extremely happy with.
My mother (who is in dire need of an upgraded device) was drooling over this phone when she first saw me with it. So, as a mothers day gift I purchased one for her and shipped it to her address.
She called me when she received the device (last thursday) and told me that the shipping packaging was completely sealed, but the nexus box inside had a broken seal and the device's plastic protectors were pealed off and stuck to the inside of the box.
My mother gave me a ring and asked me to contact Google and would not power on the device because wanted an unopened one.
I rang Google yesterday and informed them I received a device in an opened box with a broken seal. Google said that was a bit weird, but if the device is working properly they see no need in taking any action.
So, this was relayed to my mother and I had asked her to try the device for a day or so and report back. She called me this morning to tell me that the phone was constantly turning off when charging.
I immediately called Google back today and reported the issue and asked for a replacement device. They instructed me to contact the manufacturer to resolve any issues with the device.
Now - I'm at work and I wasn't able to scream my head off, so I kindly ended my conversation with the Google representative.
I have yet to contact Samsung, but I would imagine they would want to service the device.
My question to you is: should I continue to argue with Google about replacing my device or is it really something I'm going to have to deal with Samsung about?
I really don't think that if I purchased something from a store the seller should tell me to contact the manufacturer if the purchased merchandise was open and not functional upon receipt of that merchandise directly from the seller.
Should it not be a simple refund or exchange?
UPDATE: According to the Google representative I just spoke with, Google no longer handles exchanges as of Friday 4 May. They redirected my call to a Samsung representative for an exchange. Samsung took down my IMEI number and processed an RMA for the device. I must now wait up to 24 hours to be contacted by Samsung so that I may provide my credit card information in case I don't return the device within 30 days.

Ask for an RMA

Yes it should but Samsung is only going to tell you send in the device and they will fix it but I wouldn't want a refurbished device that was supposed to brand new
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They should just ship you a new one over night,
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If your within your refund window you should send it back.

WiredPirate said:
If your within your refund window you should send it back.
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Do you know what that refund window is per chance?
EDIT: nevermind found it!
Returns
To seek a refund for all or part of your purchase within 14 days of delivery, contact our support team by phone. What to expect when you call:
Our support team will ask for the e-mail address associated with your Google Wallet account, or the IMEI number for the phone you're returning.
We send a Return Merchandise Authorization (RMA) and a pre-paid UPS shipping label to your email address; two emails.
Print the RMA (attached to the email) and place the form inside of the return shipping box.
Print the pre-paid UPS shipping label and attach the label to the outside of the shipping box.
For information on preparing your phone for return, go here.
You can initiate a return within 14 days of delivery. Upon receipt of your returned device, we'll issue a refund to the original Google Wallet account minus a 15% restocking fee. We may waive the fee for an unopened box in perfect condition. For damaged units, customers may be charged additional restocking fees based on the state of your returned device.
Refunds for returned devices will be issued to the credit card used when making the original purchase with your Google Wallet account. You will not be refunded for the shipping cost of the original purchase.
Replacements
Within 14 days of delivery, if you happen to receive a defective device that you'd like to exchange for a functioning device, please contact our support team for further assistance.
If you have configured your phone as a virtual wallet, using Google Wallet as a form of payment, prepare to switch devices.
As a precondition of replacement, Google may remotely disable the damaged phone which is to be returned to Google, with the consent of the purchaser.
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And this seems to have answered all of my questions. I'm going to demand a replacement as I am still entitled to one.

^Fs said:
Do you know what that refund window is per chance?
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14 days but there is a restocking fee of 15% I believe. However, they should replace the phone by overnighting a new one. If they won't, call them back until you find someone who will.

^Fs said:
Do you know what that refund window is per chance?
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It would be 14 days from the dispatch date
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damn that sounds skeptical. maybe someone at Google, or UPS (or someone in between) got a hold of it...Or maybe they accidentally threw in a defective unit instead of a new one?
Makes me wonder when I am buying a new handset, is it REALLY new?

p00kienrayray said:
damn that sounds skeptical. maybe someone at Google, or UPS (or someone in between) got a hold of it...Or maybe they accidentally threw in a defective unit instead of a new one?
Makes me wonder when I am buying a new handset, is it REALLY new?
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I just think they're hesitant on giving me an RMA for a replacement because I've already replaced my first device due to a grainy discolored screen with a lot of ghosting.
The one I have now is great.
Hopefully they won't give any more troubles with the replacement of the second purchased device.

^Fs said:
I just think they're hesitant on giving me an RMA for a replacement because I've already replaced my first device due to a grainy discolored screen with a lot of ghosting.
The one I have now is great.
Hopefully they won't give any more troubles with the replacement of the second purchased device.
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They shouldn't. The gnex you bought for your mom is a completely different order. Besides, if their policy is to replace it, that's what they'll do.

I no I'm not in America but on every phone box I have scene in the uk. The label says don't accept this item if the seal is dam aged in anyway!
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Updated OP with info on Google's new replacement policy, or lack thereof.

Sorry to hear about your experience. I suspected that if the majority of complaints were legit and were widespread beyond XDA perfectionists , that Google would be contacting Samsung and telling them 'this is your baby', because they were pissed that they were wasting as much resources answering calls, determining whether person merited a new unit, paying postage to return defective unit and send out new one, etc. I love my phone and am happy I got it, but until I know that quality control is better I'd be apprehensive recommending it to others. I know 400 US is a great price for a phone with these features, but it still is a lot of money and for that much people should have no remorse or fears that they're not getting exactly what they paid for.

This is what happens when people abuse returns process. Some people will never be happy and will return 4, 5, 6 devices. I don't blame Google to be honest.

bobsbbq said:
This is what happens when people abuse returns process. Some people will never be happy and will return 4, 5, 6 devices. I don't blame Google to be honest.
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Pretty much this. There has to be some push back on their end. If you stay polite but firm and persistent, they will most definitely overnight you a new phone.

bobsbbq said:
This is what happens when people abuse returns process. Some people will never be happy and will return 4, 5, 6 devices. I don't blame Google to be honest.
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+1
let it be.

BrianDigital said:
They should just ship you a new one over night,
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Unfortunately, this isn't Apple we're dealing with. Hate them all you want, but they will take care of issues ASAP.

bobsbbq said:
This is what happens when people abuse returns process. Some people will never be happy and will return 4, 5, 6 devices. I don't blame Google to be honest.
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Warranty Claim or Pay to Repair in the U.S.? Please help me. (SDS involved)

Hello people!
Looks like I might have become the first in the U.S. to experience the SDS issue, at least among those who attend this forum regularly? Because I searched and searched, read and read, and could not find a single sign that anyone in the U.S. has experienced this SDS issue and filed a warranty claim to someone/somewhere. I contacted Samsung USA and they said this device is not supported and they're not trained to provide the support to me, and directed me to their international website... I had not luck with their international website either, so I contacted Amazon seller who I bought my N7100 from. And they have not replied in the past couple days...
So I wanted to see if anyone here has imported his/her n7100 into the U.S. and happened to encounter any issue with the phone and successfully filed warranty claim against Samsung. If so, how can that be done?
Worst case scenario, I pay to repair n7100 in the U.S., who should I go to? Or do I have to send the phone overseas either way?
Many thanks in advance.

bump for help please :crying:

I did not import my phone, I got it from Sprint, BUT..................given the choice, ship it back to Korea for Warranty!!! Have you ever a conversation with repair tech's in most mobile shops here??? And even with TEP they will give you every excuse how YOU messed it up or dropped and and your claim is denied.
If you send it back and likely they will get you someone that actually BUILDS the note's, original part, or give you a brand new (not referb) Note!!
This is JMO! Good Luck!!

Thanks for your reply. However, who would I contact before I ship it to Korea? I'd guess I'll have to have Samsung open an RMA for me or something?

Hi
if you have N7100 SDS,,Usually You Need Replace eMMC....
I Have and i can replace eMMC ,,,Please Read :http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/9306319-post324.html
i'm product manager on RIFF-Jtag Box and I can do it,,,Plz Contact Me Via eMail or Sonork
[email protected]
Thanks

Thanks for the info. How much do you charge for the repair though? Also, where am I gonna send it to? Your location shown under your name or did you implicate (if you implicated at all) that you have stores in the U.S.?

How long have you had the phone? Is it within 30-day return period? For return/replacement reasons I only buy items from Amazon that are Prime Eligible even if the non-Prime ones are dirt cheap.

clearday said:
How long have you had the phone? Is it within 30-day return period? For return/replacement reasons I only buy items from Amazon that are Prime Eligible even if the non-Prime ones are dirt cheap.
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I wish! :crying: I've had it for well over 5 months. It wasn't prime even tho I do have prime membership, because at the time I bought it, only ones available are from all kinds of importers/sellers that sell THRU amazon. Even though it's prime (fulfilled by Amazon), im not sure if it's Amazon that you can contact for warranty claim after 5 months, because it is not sold by Amazon but only "fulfilled".
It's unlucky to say the least. It is essentially "mistake by mistakes" made by me. I shouldn't have assumed that there should be no issue like SDS on an Samsung device; I shouldn't have assumed that if something happens, it's easy as a breeze to just call Samsung UK to get things fixed; I shouldn't have assumed that the seller I chose on Amazon is willing to help me if Samsung UK and Samsung USA kicks me back n forth; etc etc...
Bad assumptions, bad luck.
If anyone had any experience with this, please please help me :good:. I swear I'm not gonna be so trusting next time. I will buy from a seller that's known to be helpful with their customers' warranty claim, i.e., expansys. I would even buy a carrier subsidized phone just for the sake of the proper support. I thought the worst case with this dead phone for me was to pay high bills to fix it and sell it to cover partial cost, but now it looks like the worse case is that I don't know where to go to fix it...

cswithxda said:
I wish! :crying: I've had it for well over 5 months. It wasn't prime even tho I do have prime membership, because at the time I bought it, only ones available are from all kinds of importers/sellers that sell THRU amazon. Even though it's prime (fulfilled by Amazon), im not sure if it's Amazon that you can contact for warranty claim after 5 months, because it is not sold by Amazon but only "fulfilled".
It's unlucky to say the least. It is essentially "mistake by mistakes" made by me. I shouldn't have assumed that there should be no issue like SDS on an Samsung device; I shouldn't have assumed that if something happens, it's easy as a breeze to just call Samsung UK to get things fixed; I shouldn't have assumed that the seller I chose on Amazon is willing to help me if Samsung UK and Samsung USA kicks me back n forth; etc etc...
Bad assumptions, bad luck.
If anyone had any experience with this, please please help me :good:. I swear I'm not gonna be so trusting next time. I will buy from a seller that's known to be helpful with their customers' warranty claim, i.e., expansys. I would even buy a carrier subsidized phone just for the sake of the proper support. I thought the worst case with this dead phone for me was to pay high bills to fix it and sell it to cover partial cost, but now it looks like the worse case is that I don't know where to go to fix it...
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Sorry about the warranty bro. By the way, I've successfully returned items to sellers without problems even when it was only fulfilled by amazon. One instance was an order of 750gb seagate xt HD, to which I received a 60gb HD instead. Contacted the seller, got no response, contacted Amazon and I was immediately issued an RMA.
As far as requesting support from warranty, knock on wood, I haven't such experience yet with items purchased from amazon.
Good luck man, hopefully someone can help you in this forum.

clearday said:
Sorry about the warranty bro. By the way, I've successfully returned items to sellers without problems even when it was only fulfilled by amazon. One instance was an order of 750gb seagate xt HD, to which I received a 60gb HD instead. Contacted the seller, got no response, contacted Amazon and I was immediately issued an RMA.
As far as requesting support from warranty, knock on wood, I haven't such experience yet with items purchased from amazon.
Good luck man, hopefully someone can help you in this forum.
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Thanks for the kind words man. If you have a note 2 just remember to update whenever it's possible and avoid ending up like me hah...

Hey cswithxda, I have the same situation. Bought a N7100 from Amazon a few months ago (around November) and everything was fine until this afternoon when it was just off. Tried turning it on but I'm just getting the dim red light that flashes slowly when I press the power button. Charging light is off and the phone appears absolutely dead.
A while ago I checked to see if I have a vulnerable chip, and it was positive.
Samsung's live chat said they don't support international products.
I might go to one of those repair places tomorrow to see if they can diagnose the phone. Then I might see if Samsung USA will even look at it, or else I might send it to UK or Korea?
What have you done since your phone suffered from the SDS?

Gordon. said:
Hey cswithxda, I have the same situation. Bought a N7100 from Amazon a few months ago (around November) and everything was fine until this afternoon when it was just off. Tried turning it on but I'm just getting the dim red light that flashes slowly when I press the power button. Charging light is off and the phone appears absolutely dead.
A while ago I checked to see if I have a vulnerable chip, and it was positive.
Samsung's live chat said they don't support international products.
I might go to one of those repair places tomorrow to see if they can diagnose the phone. Then I might see if Samsung USA will even look at it, or else I might send it to UK or Korea?
What have you done since your phone suffered from the SDS?
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Sorry about your unlucky situation.
By repair places, do you mean Samsung support center or something? I talked to Samsung USA also and they wouldn't even talk to me if I tell them the model number (n7100). So I really don't know where I should go now. I contacted original seller and the help was minimal (telling me to contact Samsung).
I would like to send it to either UK or Korea, as long as it can be repaired, or even better, if it can be repaired under warranty.
Let me know what you find out with repair places.
Also, I did not know about SDS after my phone's dead. So I had been suffering from hangs/freezes but thought it was only software problem and was being lazy about re-flashing it. I wish I'd come here more often when the phone was in a good condition, not after it died... Anyway, after I got to know that it's been SDS'd, I contacted seller, SamUK, SamUSA without any luck. It is just amazing how much we are unsupported in this situation. As large as Samsung has become, how hard can it be for them to just provide global repair services (if not warranty services)

BABAK236 said:
Hi
if you have N7100 SDS,,Usually You Need Replace eMMC....
I Have and i can replace eMMC ,,,Please Read :http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/9306319-post324.html
i'm product manager on RIFF-Jtag Box and I can do it,,,Plz Contact Me Via eMail or Sonork
[email protected]
Thanks
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$150 for an emmc chip?
How much does whole motherboard itself cost

I'm about to go to a phone repair place for a diagnostic test and see if they can do anything. I'll let you know what I find.
I was surprised to read that Samsung UK didn't wasn't helpful, since this phone is sold there. As a last-case scenario I was thinking of sending my phone to a friend over there and sending it in for repair.

Okay, as of today I sent the phone to a friend in the UK who was kind enough to let me use his address. It really sucks from having the best, most powerful phone to nothing, but I will likely pick up a Nexus 4 to use. I don't regret purchasing the phone since I wanted to have the best and it needed to be unlocked, but in the future I will be more cautious about buying one without local warranty.
I just hope the phone is 'dead' enough so the fact that I rooted it isn't detected.
What have you done with yours? I imagine it'll take ~2 weeks for my package to get shipped across the pond, and then I'll calculate 1.5 months for repair. I'll keep you posted on how it goes; maybe it's an option to get yours repaired there too?

Gordon. said:
Okay, as of today I sent the phone to a friend in the UK who was kind enough to let me use his address. It really sucks from having the best, most powerful phone to nothing, but I will likely pick up a Nexus 4 to use. I don't regret purchasing the phone since I wanted to have the best and it needed to be unlocked, but in the future I will be more cautious about buying one without local warranty.
I just hope the phone is 'dead' enough so the fact that I rooted it isn't detected.
What have you done with yours? I imagine it'll take ~2 weeks for my package to get shipped across the pond, and then I'll calculate 1.5 months for repair. I'll keep you posted on how it goes; maybe it's an option to get yours repaired there too?
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I bought a nexus 4 as well lol. I really needed a phone and it was cheap! :good: The experience has been as good as on N7100. 4.2.2 is even smoother now.
I have been caught up with school works and sth else in life, so I haven't really tried anything else yet. Samsung UK sent me an email that I cannot reply (automated email system), gave me a link to the list of Samsung regional supports (hell, they think I cannot find that on my own?!), and nothing more. Samsung USA just slammed the door in my face, basically saying "no, good luck" when I tried live support on their website. So now I am still trying to get my original seller into this and help me, but they haven't replied in the past 2 weeks.
I wish I had a friend in UK!
BTW, when you bought your phone thru Amazon, did you notice where the phone came from? I'm not sure where my came from now.. It has German, French, and Italian user guide in it, but on the warranty card, it seems to be written in German and Slovenian. And Samsung Electronics Austria GmbH is the only thing I can read (those long, long german words are giving me a headache :silly: ) It talked about three regions - Austria, Slovenia, and Switzerland (thanks to Google Translate). So it looks like this phone might come from Austria. I am not sure if it still can be sent to UK for repair.

Well my friend in the UK really only has to drop it in his mail and then accept it when it comes back. I'll let you know how it goes because he might be able to help you too. I'm pretty sure mine came from California (Amazon seller WorldWide Distributors). But the firmware version on the phone was from Brazil or Panama.
I made an account on Samsung UK's site and it accepted the model number, serial number and IMEI number so despite not being from the region, it should be good. Did you do anything to your phone just before it died? I think that installing MIUI with kernel 4.1.1 was the insult that triggered it all for me. I should've realized the vulnerability but assumed the newest version would have the SDS fix included.
I was thinking about bringing it to a cell phone repair place for diagnosis, but it didn't have water damage or broken screen so I doubt they could have helped.
Being optimistic, not having a good cell phone is really allowing me to focus on my final USMLE studies!

Gordon. said:
Well my friend in the UK really only has to drop it in his mail and then accept it when it comes back. I'll let you know how it goes because he might be able to help you too. I'm pretty sure mine came from California (Amazon seller WorldWide Distributors). But the firmware version on the phone was from Brazil or Panama.
I made an account on Samsung UK's site and it accepted the model number, serial number and IMEI number so despite not being from the region, it should be good. Did you do anything to your phone just before it died? I think that installing MIUI with kernel 4.1.1 was the insult that triggered it all for me. I should've realized the vulnerability but assumed the newest version would have the SDS fix included.
I was thinking about bringing it to a cell phone repair place for diagnosis, but it didn't have water damage or broken screen so I doubt they could have helped.
Being optimistic, not having a good cell phone is really allowing me to focus on my final USMLE studies!
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WOW good luck with the exam, i used to do premed but changed my major my GPA wasn't good enough
Anyway, that's for sure a better news. It looks like Samsung UK does not screen off phone bought outside of UK support region (if yours was from Mid/latin america.
Please definitely update this, if this works out I'll follow your path. Thanks for being the first in this case and helping the rest of us!

Gordon. said:
Hey cswithxda, I have the same situation. Bought a N7100 from Amazon a few months ago (around November) and everything was fine until this afternoon when it was just off. Tried turning it on but I'm just getting the dim red light that flashes slowly when I press the power button. Charging light is off and the phone appears absolutely dead.
A while ago I checked to see if I have a vulnerable chip, and it was positive.
Samsung's live chat said they don't support international products.
I might go to one of those repair places tomorrow to see if they can diagnose the phone. Then I might see if Samsung USA will even look at it, or else I might send it to UK or Korea?
What have you done since your phone suffered from the SDS?
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How did you check for vulnerable chip?

Gordon. said:
I made an account on Samsung UK's site and it accepted the model number, serial number and IMEI number so despite not being from the region, it should be good. Did you do anything to your phone just before it died? I think that installing MIUI with kernel 4.1.1 was the insult that triggered it all for me. I should've realized the vulnerability but assumed the newest version would have the SDS fix included.
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Oh btw, I don't think anything triggered the issue, it was just there from the beginning I didn't even install anything new for at least 2 months before the phone died. Just normal daily use - web browsing, call, SMS, mobile IM, etc. I did start experiencing random freezes about 2 weeks before the phone died, and it became much more frequent towards the end of its life.
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Search "SDS xda" on google, and you'll find a ton of info. I didn't know about this issue before my phone died, so I never bothered to check if the chip in my phone was defective hehe..

autopumpkin.com service?

Hello,
I have two hardware problems with my HU from Pumpkin. Should I send it back to autopumpkin in China or could it be, that I will never see it again?
Has anyone experience with the Pumpkin service?
Thank you!

My touchscreen died (1 month old unit). Jammy on their forums said they would need to ship me a new screen... then nothing. I've emailed twice without response. I'm not thrilled with them.

Also mine has problems with the screen. It is flackering sometimes and often the screeen switches off.
So it is better to life with it, then to send it back to China.

I came onto here to write about my experience with pumpkin just yesterday. my HU is a few months old pumpkin brand bought off amazon. I started getting random phantom touches on the screen and it would swipe/touch icons and stuff i never touched it! So i decided to email pumpkin and ask for suggestion to fix. They replied within 24 hours and offered a free screen replacement along with video instructions on putting it in. The new one is on its way to me now at no cost. Their english is very "broken" but they DO have good customer service and want a satisfied customer, they also gave me links to the latest factory firmware for my unit too. Very nice
Thought i'd share my experience with them

Skater4599 said:
Their english is very "broken" but they DO have good customer service and want a satisfied customer, they also gave me links to the latest factory firmware for my unit too. Very nice
Thought i'd share my experience with them
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Ive found the same, Poor english but quick responses and very willing to help when they can.
I would buy from them again.

My response was not as good. Flickering/dark issues. They tried to say it was software, so I did all they said. When that didn't work, they wanted me to pay shipping for a screen (over $100) and would offer no guarantee that it would work.
Nice to see that other people had good service, though. I wonder if they are friendlier to Amazon customers because they fear Amazon coming back on them. I bought directly from autopumpkin and feel that their hardware support was lacking.

NYCAR said:
My response was not as good. Flickering/dark issues. They tried to say it was software, so I did all they said. When that didn't work, they wanted me to pay shipping for a screen (over $100) and would offer no guarantee that it would work.
Nice to see that other people had good service, though. I wonder if they are friendlier to Amazon customers because they fear Amazon coming back on them. I bought directly from autopumpkin and feel that their hardware support was lacking.
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Seems like you need to get in touch with the rep that Skater4599 talked to

NYCAR said:
My response was not as good. Flickering/dark issues. They tried to say it was software, so I did all they said. When that didn't work, they wanted me to pay shipping for a screen (over $100) and would offer no guarantee that it would work.
Nice to see that other people had good service, though. I wonder if they are friendlier to Amazon customers because they fear Amazon coming back on them. I bought directly from autopumpkin and feel that their hardware support was lacking.
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I did get mine from Amazon and contacted them through amazon messaging, maybe that's the difference i don't know, but they at one point sent me a new screen under warranty even no shipping charges. (more than I thought was going to happen at least)

Be nice to support and realistic to yourself.
Many companies that sell global have different warranty and support/service. I.e. when you buy in Europe the same unit costs additional % to pay for repairs/warranty/replacement.
The same goes for every company I know. I can buy from Hong Kong, Russia, etc. and don't have to pay for those extra % on warranty, but of course that also means that I get no warranty if I don't pay for it.
When you buy from the Pumpkin website, you pay the price for the local market wherever they are. If that's in China and warranty there doesn't cover replacement or global replacement but only repair in the country you bought it, than you as international customer have no warrenty.
I.e. when you buy a device with warranty in Europe, you have bad luck trying to claim that warranty later in the USA or Japan or Russia. It all depends on where you buy it, local warranty, extended global or not, etc? The moment you buy from a store in your own country it's clear, you know what you pay for, or not. But whenever you go online and shop global, either you learn about the over 1.000.000 global regulations and laws or you simply live with a yes/no and don't know on forehand what you get for an answer.
Some larger companies have better support, i.e. Dell. I had a broken Screen bought in Europe that broke down when I was a few years in Russia. Dell send me the newest version cost-free across the globe to replace my broken screen. But that might not be covered by standard warranty, just a nice guy at the helpdesk. I've had with Canon the same once. But first support I got told me I was in bad luck. I called again, and than again, and third time I got a lady at the phone that was very helpful and said of course she'll prepare everything and I got a replacement within 1 week.
Same happened to me to German Telekom once when I had a broken phone. I called, called again, every time nothing. At one point, I got a Manager on the phone, a real manager from the top! Later I read in the newspaper they do that sometimes, the managers at the top working half a day the job of those below them to know about their work they are doing. And this manager said immediately of course we replace the device, next day I got a new iPhone upgraded version in my hands.
So it really matters which country, which law, which support representative, how nice do you ask, etc..
generally it's good to make the support representative feel like you are a poor person, in need of help and only him/her personally can save you. Some people I noticed called with a tone/way of speaking like:" I'm a customer, I'm the king, you are my slave, you must replace, you must for me, I paid and so you must crawl through the mud for me" of course people who talk like that get NOTHING!
So it's also how you represent yourself. Be nice, be gentle, let them know you are in need, they CAN but not MUST help you, start your conversation with:"i've had such great experience in the past..."
And if you don't have luck with 1 support representative, try again! That's no guarantee of course. Sometimes you are simply out of luck. I mean, when your printer dies after 12 years of loyal service, or your carkit dies after 6 years of service, you really think the product you bought isn't already written off economically? Of course it is. So be realistic with your claims.

Verizon Corp Stores VS Verizon District Manager VS Samsung

I want to clarify as a manager one time in a retail store I understand the stock issue and this brought me to why I went through the process I did and having documented and signed off from the correct people and dotted "I's" and crossed "T's". I knew exactly what I was getting into or so what should have happened. The other reason i'm making this a separate thread is to address how these issue the VERY poor communication that occurs between people and even with the correct chain of commands refusals and issues still arise and how this arises outside this recall. So without further ado ..
We are now without Cell Phones .. After going through the last couple days double and triple checking through chains and people and corporate offices. Verizon Screwed us over really bad yesterday which was the final nail being their customer.
We drove OVER a "HOUR" with "documented record and permission" from a district manager at Verizon corporate office to exchange our recalled our Samsung Note 7's. We were going to one of his stores, we get there they take our nail and we wait 45 minutes, after the wait they tell us they will NOT be able to exchange out Recalled phones cause they were not bought in that store. However according to the stores district manager (with documented proof) they were to suppose to allow it however the corporate store would not and refused to follow orders. I was pissed for driving OVER after calling BACK to corporate office and no way to get a hold of the district manager as he was in conferences, they had no way to enforce the letter I had but they would contact someone to further deal with it and it could take a few days. I at that point had, had enough with the issues we've had with Verizon and then to get screwed like this it was time to end my time with them. I told her, i'm closing all 6 lines and you can play games with other people. I then hung up.
We drove over a hour back and to our local store whom my friend is the store manager and he made calls as did the Samsung reps and I talked to some big big wigs, they wanted us to go back to that other store and meet with the district manager (would have been today), to exchange the note 7's and discuss what took place and how they can handle the situation, as things were badly mishandled. I explained I have a life and things and cant just jump and drive here and there at will especially when OTHERS screw up. I told them thank you for making a late attempt but if someone like myself who knows the system had this much of a issue I can only imagine how others who don't and that kinda service doesn't need rewarded. I made it clear the attitude between the employees and companies and HORRIBLE lack of communication was beyond unacceptable for me and my family to remain customers.
They were very apologetic but to me you need to be proactive about issues and not reactive and this situation was a very simple one and could have no only kept customers but also could have given them a atleast a great review on how they handed it. Instead they are losing 6 lines and how badly their communication/orders are.
few questions answered.
1. my area out in nowhere land isn't slated to get replacements note 7's till 9/29
2. the district manager of our store has notified locals we have permission (with documentation to go one of HIS another stores for replacements)
3. I also noticed they were selling Note 7s yesterday to anyone while there were a TON of people there for replacements and they had limited stock. Samsung Reps said (as t-mobile and at&t are doing they are suppose to be for exchanges first)
4. Ive been researching on who we will move to, ive been with at&t before and where we live has limited coverage with carriers, so thats the BIG factor. I am aware basically all carriers have issues with things and someone with at&t will go to verizon and someone with tmo will go to at&t so... its all a moving game. its what suites us best.

Matttrix said:
I want to clarify as a manager one time in a retail store I understand the stock issue and this brought me to why I went through the process I did and having documented and signed off from the correct people and dotted "I's" and crossed "T's". I knew exactly what I was getting into or so what should have happened. The other reason i'm making this a separate thread is to address how these issue the VERY poor communication that occurs between people and even with the correct chain of commands refusals and issues still arise and how this arises outside this recall. So without further ado ..
We are now without Cell Phones .. After going through the last couple days double and triple checking through chains and people and corporate offices. Verizon Screwed us over really bad yesterday which was the final nail being their customer.
We drove OVER a "HOUR" with "documented record and permission" from a district manager at Verizon corporate office to exchange our recalled our Samsung Note 7's. We were going to one of his stores, we get there they take our nail and we wait 45 minutes, after the wait they tell us they will NOT be able to exchange out Recalled phones cause they were not bought in that store. However according to the stores district manager (with documented proof) they were to suppose to allow it however the corporate store would not and refused to follow orders. I was pissed for driving OVER after calling BACK to corporate office and no way to get a hold of the district manager as he was in conferences, they had no way to enforce the letter I had but they would contact someone to further deal with it and it could take a few days. I at that point had, had enough with the issues we've had with Verizon and then to get screwed like this it was time to end my time with them. I told her, i'm closing all 6 lines and you can play games with other people. I then hung up.
We drove over a hour back and to our local store whom my friend is the store manager and he made calls as did the Samsung reps and I talked to some big big wigs, they wanted us to go back to that other store and meet with the district manager (would have been today), to exchange the note 7's and discuss what took place and how they can handle the situation, as things were badly mishandled. I explained I have a life and things and cant just jump and drive here and there at will especially when OTHERS screw up. I told them thank you for making a late attempt but if someone like myself who knows the system had this much of a issue I can only imagine how others who don't and that kinda service doesn't need rewarded. I made it clear the attitude between the employees and companies and HORRIBLE lack of communication was beyond unacceptable for me and my family to remain customers.
They were very apologetic but to me you need to be proactive about issues and not reactive and this situation was a very simple one and could have no only kept customers but also could have given them a atleast a great review on how they handed it. Instead they are losing 6 lines and how badly their communication/orders are.
few questions answered.
1. my area out in nowhere land isn't slated to get replacements note 7's till 9/29
2. the district manager of our store has notified locals we have permission (with documentation to go one of HIS another stores for replacements)
3. I also noticed they were selling Note 7s yesterday to anyone while there were a TON of people there for replacements and they had limited stock. Samsung Reps said (as t-mobile and at&t are doing they are suppose to be for exchanges first)
4. Ive been researching on who we will move to, ive been with at&t before and where we live has limited coverage with carriers, so thats the BIG factor. I am aware basically all carriers have issues with things and someone with at&t will go to verizon and someone with tmo will go to at&t so... its all a moving game. its what suites us best.
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I exchanged my defective Note 7 for a new one at a DIFFERENT store from where I originally purchased the defective one with no questions asked. I would be furious if I were you, and totally agree with your actions.

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I exchanged my defective Note 7 for a new one at a DIFFERENT store from where I originally purchased the defective one with no questions asked. I would be furious if I were you, and totally agree with your actions.
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depends if you originally bought it at a corporate verizon store vs authorized/premium retailer store. I ran into this issue and learned they are on completely different systems and its just best to stick with Verizon Corporate stores if possible. So i returned my S7 at the premium retailer and went to the corporate store for the Note 7.
Also to the OP, verizon can set up a return box that you can ship and then they can ship you the Note 7. The only issue is you will be phoneless unless you have a backup phone you can use while waiting. That is also one option i learned they can do for you.

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depends if you originally bought it at a corporate verizon store vs authorized/premium retailer store. I ran into this issue and learned they are on completely different systems and its just best to stick with Verizon Corporate stores if possible. So i returned my S7 at the premium retailer and went to the corporate store for the Note 7.
Also to the OP, verizon can set up a return box that you can ship and then they can ship you the Note 7. The only issue is you will be phoneless unless you have a backup phone you can use while waiting. That is also one option i learned they can do for you.
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Unfortunately, UPS and FedEx are refusing to handle the recalled phones, so the only option is to return them to corporate stores. Samsung reps are actually picking them up at the stores to return them to a location where they can be processed.

Dodge DeBoulet said:
Unfortunately, UPS and FedEx are refusing to handle the recalled phones, so the only option is to return them to corporate stores. Samsung reps are actually picking them up at the stores to return them to a location where they can be processed.
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UPS has posted this statement.. (effectively ground shipping only and likely will need specific shipping materials to go)
https://www.ups.com/content/us/en/about/news/service_updates/20160915_samsung.html

dottat said:
UPS has posted this statement.. (effectively ground shipping only and likely will need specific shipping materials to go)
https://www.ups.com/content/us/en/about/news/service_updates/20160915_samsung.html
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Thanks for posting that. It will certainly be useful for those who purchased their phones directly from Samsung. I don't believe Verizon customers will benefit from UPS's flexibility, though.
My comments were based on multiple news reports of FedEx and UPS outright refusing to handle the return shipping of recalled phone. Guess that wasn't quite the truth ...

chillsen said:
depends if you originally bought it at a corporate verizon store vs authorized/premium retailer store. I ran into this issue and learned they are on completely different systems and its just best to stick with Verizon Corporate stores if possible. So i returned my S7 at the premium retailer and went to the corporate store for the Note 7.
Also to the OP, verizon can set up a return box that you can ship and then they can ship you the Note 7. The only issue is you will be phoneless unless you have a backup phone you can use while waiting. That is also one option i learned they can do for you.
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Completely true, reps in the store simply cant do an exchange in the system. Its as if you bought something from walmart and tried to return it at target. Imo authorized retailers are the worst! They can set their own prices and promotions and when I worked in the store I could literally tell that one close to me was selling returned phones because the esn had been active on many accounts. Essentially the district manager would be agreeing to giving you a new phone cause in no way shape or form could it be an exchange in the system.

mickeyleah said:
Completely true, reps in the store simply cant do an exchange in the system. Its as if you bought something from walmart and tried to return it at target. Imo authorized retailers are the worst! They can set their own prices and promotions and when I worked in the store I could literally tell that one close to me was selling returned phones because the esn had been active on many accounts. Essentially the district manager would be agreeing to giving you a new phone cause in no way shape or form could it be an exchange in the system.
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I think the truth is just more likely an evolving story here. Hopefully this all gets sorted soon for everyone's benefit.

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I think the truth is just more likely an evolving story here. Hopefully this all gets sorted soon for everyone's benefit.
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I got a update...
The district manager came to personally meet with me and we had a hour meeting and we joined by the general manager of the corporate store. The store manager apologized for his and his employees mistake, the district manager explained there was poor communication on their part, this should have been handled much better. However due to supply issue they are unable to give me new phones till October 5th. They have paid my current bill and 25% of each phones costs when I get them. As I agreed to remain a customer and sign a new phone agreement. I also got everything in writing again. If anything under the current deal is unable to be met i can withdraw without penalty etc and their payment on my bill will not be charged back to me.
After what I went through im going cover extra extra everything. I don't trust anything. Ill keep you all informed about it.

I can't believe the amount of time spent by so many people on so many levels for a couple phones.... I get the principle aspect of it.... but these are cell phones. Unnecessary. A luxury. I simply don't understand going to such great lengths over such a minor thing. Life is so large, what in the world will you do when something actually important doesn't go as planned?
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I can't believe the amount of time spent by so many people on so many levels for a couple phones.... I get the principle aspect of it.... but these are cell phones. Unnecessary. A luxury. I simply don't understand going to such great lengths over such a minor thing. Life is so large, what in the world will you do when something actually important doesn't go as planned?
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Carrington Event

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I got called this morning and got told the Blue Coral are behind on stock and I could get another color tomorrow. I am disappointed but at this point another few days I'll live.
What this whole subject has been about to me is the communication issues, promises, documented orders by region people, stores not following orders, the list goes on and on. I did put myself in hell but at the same time. I made them deal with their failures and address their issues. Sitting there hearing them admit they ****ed up and offering to pay my bill and discount my new phones was a "start".. But I still think about the countless others who go through such bull**** while these companies walk on us. Hopefully my situation will get others to step up to make companies do what they say and offer.

Manufacturer Warranty

So I purchased a Verizon Pixel XL... should I bother getting a Squaretrade warranty on it? I'm not sure how Google's warranty would work. So let's play a scenario out: if my phone breaks for some weird reason during year 1, what do I do? Who handles it? Does Verizon ship it to Google? I'm just phoneless for a while? Would there be a deductible? Google doesn't really give any details that I could find about the manufacturer warranty (I assume it's 1 year?).

One year warranty is the same for any company just about. It's covers manufacturers defects. So to put it simply. If there an issue caused by dropping the phone or there is damage/liquid damage it's not covered. If you have an issue that is not your fault.. like 8 months from now the speaker stops working and there's no damage then it's covered

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One year warranty is the same for any company just about. It's covers manufacturers defects. So to put it simply. If there an issue caused by dropping the phone or there is damage/liquid damage it's not covered. If you have an issue that is not your fault.. like 8 months from now the speaker stops working and there's no damage then it's covered
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I assumed that, but who handles it? Verizon or Google?

PsiPhiDan said:
I assumed that, but who handles it? Verizon or Google?
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"Google" is effectively manufacturer, but you go thru your carrier to access it (unless you bought from Google Store).
Because carrier wants a chance to fix it, and because agreements are very particular, Verizon and YOUR deal may give you drop damage warranty (etc) if you pay insurance, but one year Google warranty (thru carrier) still applies.
Like every product for years.....
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Does Google normal 1yr warranty apply to devices purchased not from Google Store or Best Buy/VZW? Looking at buying one on Swappa.
I would think that a "New-resale" listing the Google warranty would start at the day I purchase it since i have receipt proving that device was purchased as New.
I would think that "used" devices warranty would be from build or original purchase date. So...the phone came out less than a year ago...so technically, all the used ones being sold right now should still be under 1 yr warranty right?
Edit: found this on google site: soo...is Swappa considered a "authorized seller"?
"Limited warranty
Google warrants that a new Phone (including any ancillary parts that may be packaged with it) will be free from defects in materials and workmanship under normal use in accordance with Google’s published user documentation for one year from the date of original retail purchase in its original packaging by you. If a Phone has been refurbished, Google warrants that the Phone (including any ancillary parts that may be packaged with it) will be free from defects in materials and workmanship under normal use in accordance with Google’s published user documentation for ninety days from the date of retail purchase by you (these warranties are collectively referred to as our “Limited Warranty”).
This Limited Warranty is only valid and enforceable in locations the Phone is sold and will apply only if you purchased your Phone from Google or its authorized resellers. This Limited Warranty only applies to hardware components (and not any software elements) of the Phone, and this Limited Warranty does not apply to damage caused by normal wear and tear, accidents, misuse (including failure to follow product documentation), neglect, disassembly, alterations, servicing other than by Google authorized technicians, and external causes such as, but not limited to, water damage, anomalies in the electrical current supplied to the device, and extreme thermal or environmental conditions. This Limited Warranty does not guarantee that use of the Phone will be uninterrupted or error free."
https://support.google.com/store/troubleshooter/3070579#ts=7168940,7169349
Edit 2: Guess i found my own answer...nope...no warranty even if bought new on Swappa.
https://productforums.google.com/fo...xt-place=topicsearchin/phone-by-google/swappa
https://support.google.com/store/answer/6160400?hl=en-AU&ref_topic=3244667

I'm thinking about selling my Pixel XL that I purchased new from the Google Store two months ago so I asked Pixel Support about the warranty. They told me that both the manufacturers warranty and the extended warranty were transferable to the new owner. They said the new owner wouldn't even need a receipt from me because the phone could be traced back to the original purchase at the Google Store via the device IMEI number. I'm not sure if the situation is different if the phone wasn't originally purchased from the Google Store. I contacted Pixel Support twice to verify the information and both times they told me the warranties are transferable to the new owner. You might want to contact the seller on Swappa and find out where the phone was originally purchased when new.

The azurian extended warranty plan does have a transfer website you can go to that requires the the serial number and the original owners email address and then sends an email to both parties and they both have to click links in order to confirm the transfer. But I have read quite a few forms where people have tried to make use of the warranty repair and not being the original owner the repair was denied.
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But yes...I'm looking at getting a pixel XL 128gb...but new with the special 2yr warranty...for $1,048 plus shipping...makes my stomach turn .most I have ever paid for a phone is around $200...lol. so I'm looking at resale or used ones...but with the camera Halo and mic issue I have read about...kinda hesitant if no warranty. Also...I read the pixel has a form of Google lock like iCloud lock that if it was not removed from owners account...u can't activate it. Don't know if that's true or not..
Anyway..my LG V10 crapped out on me...I'm ok with the Moto X pure I have as spare phone..but really want that camera the pixel has....and a 6in pixel 2 is too big for me...once that comes out end of the year. So the current XL seems to be my only option . I doubt I can get one used still with extended Google protection for $500 -$600 though...but $1k is a hell of a lot to pay for a phone with no micro SD, no AptX and not fully water resistant as much cheaper phones.

The phone is ludicrously overpriced but with 128g model the lack of a USB card wouldn't be an issue for most people and other high priced flagship phones are doing the same thing. The camera flare and mic issues are old ones that were fixed with software updates. Pixel support definitely told me on two occasions speaking to two different people that the manufacturers warranty on my phone was definitely transferable to the new owner but the policy might be different if the phone wasn't originally purchased directly from the Google Store. You could ask to see the seller 's purchase receipt before buying to see where the phone originally came from. You can also contact Pixel support yourself on the Internet even though you don't have a Pixel yet and explain to them that you are receiving contradictory information regarding whether the warranty would transfer and see what they tell you.

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The azurian extended warranty plan does have a transfer website you can go to that requires the the serial number and the original owners email address and then sends an email to both parties and they both have to click links in order to confirm the transfer. But I have read quite a few forms where people have tried to make use of the warranty repair and not being the original owner the repair was denied.
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But yes...I'm looking at getting a pixel XL 128gb...but new with the special 2yr warranty...for $1,048 plus shipping...makes my stomach turn .most I have ever paid for a phone is around $200...lol. so I'm looking at resale or used ones...but with the camera Halo and mic issue I have read about...kinda hesitant if no warranty. Also...I read the pixel has a form of Google lock like iCloud lock that if it was not removed from owners account...u can't activate it. Don't know if that's true or not..
Anyway..my LG V10 crapped out on me...I'm ok with the Moto X pure I have as spare phone..but really want that camera the pixel has....and a 6in pixel 2 is too big for me...once that comes out end of the year. So the current XL seems to be my only option . I doubt I can get one used still with extended Google protection for $500 -$600 though...but $1k is a hell of a lot to pay for a phone with no micro SD, no AptX and not fully water resistant as much cheaper phones.
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not entirely sure if AptX is shipped with O DP3, but it's an option on DP3 under developer options and selecting your codec. AptX HD is there as well.

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not entirely sure if AptX is shipped with O DP3, but it's an option on DP3 under developer options and selecting your codec. AptX HD is there as well.
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yes i read that...but Android O is not gonna be out for a while. And I wonder how Google is gonna price the Pixel 2 phones( assume they will come with O)...i'm sure the 1st gen will be discontinued from play store asap...that is what i was told happened with the Nexus phones.

speedingcheetah said:
yes i read that...but Android O is not gonna be out for a while. And I wonder how Google is gonna price the Pixel 2 phones( assume they will come with O)...i'm sure the 1st gen will be discontinued from play store asap...that is what i was told happened with the Nexus phones.
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true, they did hold out on O until the Pixel was released so there's nothing to say they wouldn't do they same with the pixel 2... yeah no doubt they'll ax it quickly like they did the 5x/6p

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true, they did hold out on O until the Pixel was released so there's nothing to say they wouldn't do they same with the pixel 2... yeah no doubt they'll ax it quickly like they did the 5x/6p
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Hopefully Google will treat first gen Pixel owners better than they treated 5X/6P owners when the Pixel2 comes out. I have a 6P as well and I felt like to Google we become second class citizens overnight.

Google will not honor warranty
I purchased "new" 128gig Pixel XL from Fry's Electronics (a Google authorised reseller) on January 20th 2018, it died on July 16th 2018. I called Google to get an RMA under warranty and was informed that the warranty on my phone had expired on June 25th 2018 ( total of 5 months after purchase) and I should take it up with Fry's. I went face to face with the store manager at the Fry's store where I had purchased the phone. He basically blew me off saying I should take it up with Google. My phone is currently at an authorised Google repair center while I try to get American Express to repair or replace under their extended warranty. However I expect that they will refuse on the basis that I must have not purchased a new phone. I have been screwed by Google and their distribution network partners.
BE CAREFUL WHEN YOU BUY A GOOGLE PHONE. Get the IMEI number and check with Google how much of the warranty still exists.