Hi I'm in Oreo 5.0.3 and I need a custom recovery and don't want the root.. I was rooted earlier using Magisk 15.3. Today morning I un-installed magisk using Magisk uninstaller.. after uninstalling it, twrp also gone.. is it mandatory to root to have custom recovery?
Or is there any other way?
padhu1989 said:
Hi I'm in Oreo 5.0.3 and I need a custom recovery and don't want the root.. I was rooted earlier using Magisk 15.3. Today morning I un-installed magisk using Magisk uninstaller.. after uninstalling it, twrp also gone.. is it mandatory to root to have custom recovery?
Or is there any other way?
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Unless you have root, custom recoveries will always be replaced with the official recovery after every reboot.
While I won't say it is impossible in theory, currently all stock rom has recovery built in and they will replace the recovery if not rooted.
Perhaps somebody can strip off the recovery part from the stock rom?
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Hello,
at the moment I have a HTC 10 with normal root and xposed.
But I would like to have the option of installing OTA updates and I have some question:
- Is there any advantage between system and systemless root except OTA/Android Pay? Or is it still better to use system root?
- Can I still flash a custom kernel and other mods in TWRP?
- What do I need for systemless root and systemless xposed?
- Are there any disadvantages?
And it would be awesome if someone could give me a full guide how to do this.
I would start with flashing a RUU, but what should I do after that?
Thanks in advance!
I can't say anything about systemless Xposed, but I've been wondering about it. Main thing I want to know is if it will play nice with Android Pay. Right now, I'd rather have Android Pay than Xposed, but I'd like both.
As for systemless root, yes, you can still flash custom kernels thru TWRP. I'm running @flar2's Elemental X and have run them both successfully on LeeDroid and Venom. Some mods may have to have some special prep if they're not baked into a rom, such as AdAway, to work properly with systemless root.
The disadvantages to systemless root, to this point have been you can't run Xposed on it (not sure how it works now), and root is broken on some poorly coded apps, like ES File Explorer.
The easiest way to install systemless root now is just to install a rom. Put TWRP on and pick a rom. Both LeeDroid and Viper have options for systemless root. You're up and working out of the box with nothing special to do.
Superguy said:
I can't say anything about systemless Xposed, but I've been wondering about it. Main thing I want to know is if it will play nice with Android Pay. Right now, I'd rather have Android Pay than Xposed, but I'd like both.
As for systemless root, yes, you can still flash custom kernels thru TWRP. I'm running @flar2's Elemental X and have run them both successfully on LeeDroid and Venom. Some mods may have to have some special prep if they're not baked into a rom, such as AdAway, to work properly with systemless root.
The disadvantages to systemless root, to this point have been you can't run Xposed on it (not sure how it works now), and root is broken on some poorly coded apps, like ES File Explorer.
The easiest way to install systemless root now is just to install a rom. Put TWRP on and pick a rom. Both LeeDroid and Viper have options for systemless root. You're up and working out of the box with nothing special to do.
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Have a look at this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/unofficial-systemless-xposed-t3388268
That's the reason why I'm asking - OTA is working, but Android Pay not (for me it doesn't matter. I never used android pay).
But I want to stay on Stock ROM, no Custom ROMs. I just want the ability to download and install OTA updates.
Edit: Well, I see that I still need stock recovery for OTA updates. It doesn't make sense to install systemless root, because I have stock system-image backup and stock recovery.
Is there any advantage between system and systemless root except OTA/Android Pay? Or is it still better to use system root?
Maik268 said:
Have a look at this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/unofficial-systemless-xposed-t3388268
That's the reason why I'm asking - OTA is working, but Android Pay not (for me it doesn't matter. I never used android pay).
But I want to stay on Stock ROM, no Custom ROMs. I just want the ability to download and install OTA updates.
Edit: Well, I see that I still need stock recovery for OTA updates. It doesn't make sense to install systemless root, because I have stock system-image backup and stock recovery.
Is there any advantage between system and systemless root except OTA/Android Pay? Or is it still better to use system root?
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I am in the same position, just got the phone and want to install systemless root, systemless xposed and systemless Adaway... Mainly the reason I want this is because I dont want to s-off (you cant flash newer firmwares that come with updates) or I dont want to restore system and performing update after that... I just want stock rom with elementalx and those xposed goodies I want it so that when I get a notification about update, I dont need to backup anything, flash anything, just install update regularly like all normal people BUT still after update have root and xposed
I think its possible, but I have to do a little research before I get on with it.. Now first step is unlock bootloader
CrazyCypher said:
I am in the same position, just got the phone and want to install systemless root, systemless xposed and systemless Adaway... Mainly the reason I want this is because I dont want to s-off (you cant flash newer firmwares that come with updates) or I dont want to restore system and performing update after that... I just want stock rom with elementalx and those xposed goodies I want it so that when I get a notification about update, I dont need to backup anything, flash anything, just install update regularly like all normal people BUT still after update have root and xposed
I think its possible, but I have to do a little research before I get on with it.. Now first step is unlock bootloader
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Even with systemless root you have to restore stock recovery to use OTA updates
Well, I have a look at this next weekend when I have some more time.
Or I just try a custom ROM... :laugh:
Maik268 said:
Even with systemless root you have to restore stock recovery to use OTA updates
Well, I have a look at this next weekend when I have some more time.
Or I just try a custom ROM... :laugh:
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Yes but the amazing thing is that after you flash everything you want, you can immediately restore stock recovery and have stock recovery all the time after you have everything systemless
Then if you want to flash something you flash TWRP.. otherwise you just leave re-flashed stock recovery
CrazyCypher said:
Yes but the amazing thing is that after you flash everything you want, you can immediately restore stock recovery and have stock recovery all the time after you have everything systemless
Then if you want to flash something you flash TWRP.. otherwise you just leave re-flashed stock recovery
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Hello, I will receive my HTC 10 on Friday, and I all I want is to root and install Xposed Framework (A kernel would be nice too, but it's not a must) but I do want to receive OTA's and not having to flash the Rom each time that I want to update...
So if I root my phone Systemless, will I be able to Install Xposed (and a kernel) so when I receive an OTA, I just flash the stock kernel and install the update, then flash twrp again, without losing root or my data?
If so, how do I systemless root?
Thanks! :good:
Would it be possible to flash the stock rom, root it with magisk and still receive OTAs? With TWRP recovery installed.
Lownita said:
Would it be possible to flash the stock rom, root it with magisk and still receive OTAs? With TWRP recovery installed.
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No OTA with twrp
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OTA are possibile even with TWRP.
But since Magisk overwrite the kernel partition, the installation works only with full rom packages.
Hi guys,
I'm looking for a way to root my HTC10 Nougat 2.41.401.03. Could you give me some ideas what i'm gonna lose after root, notices and the link, please?
Thank you very much
unlock the bootloader using HTC Dev, flash the latest version of TWRP and then flash either SuperSU or Magisk (Magisk is a personal preference).
Just be wary that flashing a custom recovery and flashing either one of those will likely break the phones ability to update OTA.
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unlock the bootloader using HTC Dev, flash the latest version of TWRP and then flash either SuperSU or Magisk (Magisk is a personal preference).
Just be wary that flashing a custom recovery and flashing either one of those will likely break the phones ability to update OTA.
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Thank you , but would you mind send me the link of latest TWRP and Supersu, please ?
dvhuy95 said:
Thank you , but would you mind send me the link of latest TWRP and Supersu, please ?
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Flashable SuperSu
https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/supersu/download/zip/SuperSU-v2.79-201612051815.zip
TWRP
https://eu.dl.twrp.me/pme/twrp-3.1.0-1-pme.img.html
Magisk
https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/official-magisk-v7-universal-systemless-t3473445
I think Magisk Root is better to have system less root, Android pay and snapchat works perfect, after flashing in magisk settings you have to turn on "magisk hide" and choose applications (android pay or snapchat and much more).
Hi, how can I install TWRP and then Magisk ?
I'm coming from nexus family and I know in and out regarding flashing rooms, rooting etc for nexus devices .. I got op5t few days back and I want to root it. But I need few info's.
1. If I root the phone, Can I flash the ota Update zip using twrp?
2. If I flash the update zip successfully using twrp, will I lose twrp and root?
I just want to know what are the steps to follow to update the Stock OS but also keeping the custom recovery and root after the update..
What are the Stock things I will lose after unlocking and rooting..
You will not lose stock features if you root. Both SafteyNet bypass options and root hide features exist with custom kernels and Magisk.
Taking OTA's will be a slight issue, though. Need to flash the Magisk uninstall zip first, take OTA (you will lose custom recovery), then re-flash custom recovery then flash Magisk again.
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You will not lose stock features if you root. Both SafteyNet bypass options and root hide features exist with custom kernels and Magisk.
Taking OTA's will be a slight issue, though. Need to flash the Magisk uninstall zip first, take OTA (you will lose custom recovery), then re-flash custom recovery then flash Magisk again.
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I thought if you flashed the full zip and then Magisk right after, it would not only keep root, but TWRP as well?
xocomaox said:
You will not lose stock features if you root. Both SafteyNet bypass options and root hide features exist with custom kernels and Magisk.
Taking OTA's will be a slight issue, though. Need to flash the Magisk uninstall zip first, take OTA (you will lose custom recovery), then re-flash custom recovery then flash Magisk again.
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So I need to use custom Kernal to Pass Safety net? Safety net fails in Stock kernel?
If you use Magisk, no. Magisk will hide the parameters that would reveal that your device has the bootloader unlocked.
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I thought if you flashed the full zip and then Magisk right after, it would not only keep root, but TWRP as well?
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Well.. it's not keeping root if you have to re-flash Magisk after!
You may get away with not having to flash Magisk uninstall zip, but you might as well since you'll be in recovery anyways.
You can flash stock rom using TWRP as mentioned in this thread https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5t/how-to/oneplus-5t-mirrors-official-oxygen-os-t3708099
Once the update is completed you will be back in stock recovery and you need to flash TWRP again
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=74705391&postcount=32
It would be great if someone who is familiar with OnePlus products and updates could put together a defnitive, detailed post and or instructional sticky on the whole update OTA root subject since there are so many different threads on it.
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Well.. it's not keeping root if you have to re-flash Magisk after!
You may get away with not having to flash Magisk uninstall zip, but you might as well since you'll be in recovery anyways.
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Sorry, I meant flashing Magisk will boot you back into the system updated, rooted and with TWRP intact.
I haven't heard about having to uninstall Magisk or anything, was just curious
Dazed No More said:
It would be great if someone who is familiar with OnePlus products and updates could put together a defnitive, detailed post and or instructional sticky on the whole update OTA root subject since there are so many different threads on it.
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=74612843&postcount=3
padhu1989 said:
I'm coming from nexus family and I know in and out regarding flashing rooms, rooting etc for nexus devices .. I got op5t few days back and I want to root it. But I need few info's.
1. If I root the phone, Can I flash the ota Update zip using twrp?
2. If I flash the update zip successfully using twrp, will I lose twrp and root?
I just want to know what are the steps to follow to update the Stock OS but also keeping the custom recovery and root after the update..
What are the Stock things I will lose after unlocking and rooting..
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Why don't you read how to do it? https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5t/how-to/oneplus-5t-unlock-bootloader-flash-twrp-t3704592
I recently updated my device to miui pie. Earlier i was using rooted miui oreo with redfox twrp.
After updating i'm unable to root it with magisk. Tried 19.2, 19.1. Both these versions giving bootloop. Tried 18.1, it boots but says magisk missing.
So i'm left with custom recovery, unlocked bootloader and no root access.
Any help?
Sorry For Your Loss..
BB23482 said:
I recently updated my device to miui pie. Earlier i was using rooted miui oreo with redfox twrp.
After updating i'm unable to root it with magisk. Tried 19.2, 19.1. Both these versions giving bootloop. Tried 18.1, it boots but says magisk missing.
So i'm left with custom recovery, unlocked bootloader and no root access.
Any help?
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Sorry To Read You've Seemed To Have Lost The Ability To Gain Root Access..
But.. I do want to thank you for answering my question.. and saving me from creating a thread.
And to those that are wondering.. Yes.. I still own the device.
There are so many GREAT new devices dropping at what seems like an "All at Once" pace.. and so many devices on sale (S9's & Note 9's are high on my list) that I've dropped down a gear.. so that I may choose my next device based on a Series of Conditions..
I can tell you this BB.. 10.3.1.0 Oreo runs FANTASTIC and rooted easily with Magisk 16.6....
I'd give that version a try even being locked into Pie.. I'll just keep this on 10.3.1.0 Oreo.. and let the new owner make the hard choice.. Good Luck Sir ! :angel:
BB23482 said:
I recently updated my device to miui pie. Earlier i was using rooted miui oreo with redfox twrp.
After updating i'm unable to root it with magisk. Tried 19.2, 19.1. Both these versions giving bootloop. Tried 18.1, it boots but says magisk missing.
So i'm left with custom recovery, unlocked bootloader and no root access.
Any help?
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Try to flash magisk uninstaller and then flash magisk (installer). You can install a custom rom, and if you like miui, there are many miui-based roms, like xiaomi.eu