Updating to Oreo Firmware but not Rom... - HTC 10 Questions & Answers

Hi I am running a Nougat Rom that I am happy with for the moment but was wondering if it would be advisable to update to the new firmware anyway? Can you run a Nougat rom on the Oreo firmware and is there any benefit of doing so?
Thanks

badmf80 said:
Hi I am running a Nougat Rom that I am happy with for the moment but was wondering if it would be advisable to update to the new firmware anyway? Can you run a Nougat rom on the Oreo firmware and is there any benefit of doing so?
Thanks
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No you can't run a nougat rom on a oreo firmware.

Oreo firmware is for Oreo ROM, and currently there is no downgrading again.If you are staying on Nougat, DO NOT upgrade the firmware.

what about using asop oreo rom ???

tofayas said:
what about using asop oreo rom ???
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Just don't update if you don't need to. If you want to use OREO roms you update otherwise stay on nougat. Don't mess with the firmware if you don't need to.

if iam in oreo rom and then want install custom rom etc sundream rom basically nougat rom, must install nougat firmware too?

dalfshiro said:
if iam in oreo rom and then want install custom rom etc sundream rom basically nougat rom, must install nougat firmware too?
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Yes.

Mr Hofs said:
Yes.
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yesterday installing nougat rom without installing nougat firmware.everything is okay except no setting for fingerprint and unusable

dalfshiro said:
yesterday installing nougat rom without installing nougat firmware.everything is okay except no setting for fingerprint and unusable
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Issues will occur indeed, keep firmware and roms matched

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Operating system/Firmware question

So, as I understand. This phone works similarly in the way the Moto G did in the sense that the Firmware and the actual ROM are seperate?
firmware controlling things in the background and the ROM being front and center?
Theoretically speaking, I could run Lineage 14.1 with HTC MM Firmware AND Nougat firmware? (Obviously not at the same time)
Only reason I ask is I come from a G3 which requires TWRP and all roms to be "Bumped" so things are a bit different (No bootloader unlock)
johnnzey said:
So, as I understand. This phone works similarly in the way the Moto G did in the sense that the Firmware and the actual ROM are seperate?
firmware controlling things in the background and the ROM being front and center?
Theoretically speaking, I could run Lineage 14.1 with HTC MM Firmware AND Nougat firmware? (Obviously not at the same time)
Only reason I ask is I come from a G3 which requires TWRP and all roms to be "Bumped" so things are a bit different (No bootloader unlock)
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If you read the LOS installation instructions you see that it support both MM and N. Supported firmware depends on the rom, though many roms will ask you during installation which firmware you're running and support both.
Tarima said:
If you read the LOS installation instructions you see that it support both MM and N. Supported firmware depends on the rom, though many roms will ask you during installation which firmware you're running and support both.
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So what are the advantages/disadvantages of using either mm or nougat firmwares? Do they effect anything realistically?
johnnzey said:
So what are the advantages/disadvantages of using either mm or nougat firmwares? Do they effect anything realistically?
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Nougat firmware could have more advanced radios for improved signal.
A caution: don't mix Marshmallow and Nougat firmware bits, such as aboot.
I did that and ruined a perfectly good Ten.
michaelbsheldon said:
Nougat firmware could have more advanced radios for improved signal.
A caution: don't mix Marshmallow and Nougat firmware bits, such as aboot.
I did that and ruined a perfectly good Ten.
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So like flashing a marshmallow aboot to a nougat firmware?
If so I wont even be bothering with that stuff.
johnnzey said:
So what are the advantages/disadvantages of using either mm or nougat firmwares? Do they effect anything realistically?
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The Nougat update gave a performance boost.
And staying up to date with firmware is always a good idea. Google is releasing monthly security updates now.

revert to nougat

Hey guys!
I have upgraded to oreo a while ago, but battery doesnt seem to be as good as on nougat. I looked up a few posts but i am not sure which one to believe. Is there a good method on how to go back to nougat?
pidl said:
Hey guys!
I have upgraded to oreo a while ago, but battery doesnt seem to be as good as on nougat. I looked up a few posts but i am not sure which one to believe. Is there a good method on how to go back to nougat?
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I don't see the difficulty, flash whole nougat oos, or for a custom ROM flash a Nougat firmware + custom ROM.
Striatum_bdr said:
I don't see the difficulty, flash whole nougat oos, or for a custom ROM flash a Nougat firmware + custom ROM.
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I thought i have to take care to select right twrp and have to do stuff, but i think ill just flash latest nougat firmware + full stock rom + twrp, and then my custom roms?
pidl said:
I thought i have to take care to select right twrp and have to do stuff, but i think ill just flash latest nougat firmware + full stock rom + twrp, and then my custom roms?
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Latest TWRP, always
If you flash full Nougat OOS ROM no need to flash firmware
Striatum_bdr said:
Latest TWRP, always
If you flash full Nougat OOS ROM no need to flash firmware
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Latest twrp ? I thought the latest is for oreo only?
pidl said:
Latest twrp ? I thought the latest is for oreo only?
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Where did you read ONLY? It's Oreo compatible. That's all. By definition a software is backward compatible except if expressly specified in changelog. Which is not the case here.
You've got all you need. Experiment now.

Moto z play back to stock with retail rom is possible?

Hello,
I'm considering going back to the stock ROM in my moto z play XT1635-02 retla1st but I would like to know if I would have a problem installing the RETAIL version when receiving OTA's or some other problem.
I currently have the bootloader unlocked and a compilation that is not the official one but I want to remove the root and receive the updates without any inconvenience.
best regards
_heberlopez95 said:
Hello,
I'm considering going back to the stock ROM in my moto z play XT1635-02 retla1st but I would like to know if I would have a problem installing the RETAIL version when receiving OTA's or some other problem.
I currently have the bootloader unlocked and a compilation that is not the official one but I want to remove the root and receive the updates without any inconvenience.
best regards
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I do not know if you can downgrade from a 7.1 ROM to a 6.x Stock via RSD and have your phone usable. With some phones if you downgrade to MM you brick it.
If it survives, you would then need to find a way to lock the bootloader.
In the same Android versión it's possible install a retail ROM?
_heberlopez95 said:
In the same Android versión it's possible install a retail ROM?
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I believe if your phone (bootloaders) is 7.x you can RSD 7.x and if phone is 6.x you can RSD 6.x .
KrisM22 said:
I believe if your phone (bootloaders) is 7.x you can RSD 7.x and if phone is 6.x you can RSD 6.x .
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I understand but my question is, I have a ROM retla1st 7.1.1 and my bootloader unlocked I want to close the bootloader and flash the stock ROM but I can not find the version of retla1st with 7.1.1 only encounter 6.0.1 and I can not go back to MM because I understand that the phone is damaged for which I want to install the stock 7.1.1 retail ROM will there be any problems?
I understand but my question is, I have a ROM retla1st 7.1.1 and my bootloader unlocked I want to close the bootloader and flash the stock ROM but I can not find the version of retla1st with 7.1.1 only encounter 6.0.1 and I can not go back to MM because I understand that the phone is damaged for which I want to install the stock 7.1.1 retail ROM will there be any problems?
_heberlopez95 said:
I understand but my question is, I have a ROM retla1st 7.1.1 and my bootloader unlocked I want to close the bootloader and flash the stock ROM but I can not find the version of retla1st with 7.1.1 only encounter 6.0.1 and I can not go back to MM because I understand that the phone is damaged for which I want to install the stock 7.1.1 retail ROM will there be any problems?
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yeah - I don't know - You could try the links at this post and see if it answers your needs...: Let me know!
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=75364150&postcount=7
KrisM22 said:
yeah - I don't know - You could try the links at this post and see if it answers your needs...: Let me know!
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=75364150&postcount=7
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I used this guide today, it worked without any problems. I went from rooted 7.1.1 stock september security patch to 7.1.1 stock november security patch with locked bootloader. OTA december security patch worked as well. I even unlocked the bootloader again and am now rooted with magisk safety net passing
tschannik26 said:
I used this guide today, it worked without any problems. I went from rooted 7.1.1 stock september security patch to 7.1.1 stock november security patch with locked bootloader. OTA december security patch worked as well. I even unlocked the bootloader again and am now rooted with magisk safety net passing
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Thanks! I also appreciate knowing what you were on and what it gave you! No problems with carrier or modems? Great!!! @SupahCookie may have a super fix-all! Hope you gave tons of thanks there
KrisM22 said:
Thanks! I also appreciate knowing what you were on and what it gave you! No problems with carrier or modems? Great!!! @SupahCookie may have a super fix-all! Hope you gave tons of thanks there
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No problems whatsoever. I'm on t-mobile germany, channel was reteu before and after
tschannik26 said:
No problems whatsoever. I'm on t-mobile germany, channel was reteu before and after
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Great!!!!!
thanks a lot for your help guys ..!
KrisM22 said:
Thanks! I also appreciate knowing what you were on and what it gave you! No problems with carrier or modems? Great!!! @SupahCookie may have a super fix-all! Hope you gave tons of thanks there
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Super fix, sounds amazing :3
SupahCookie said:
Super fix, sounds amazing :3
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incroyable!!!

About Firmware (custom ROM)

Hello. Tell me, how can I find out what my FW is installed? Oreo or Pie version... maybe there is even some kind of application for this?
It's in the About phone section in Settings dude
nqhoai said:
It's in the About phone section in Settings dude
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No, it's not lol, android version is different from fw version.
I am on Pie firmware, can I flash with Oreo firmware so that I can go back to stock miui Oreo,
Presently I am using Pixel Rom latest.
im trying to update to https://osdn.net/projects/xiaomifir...miui_HMNote5Global_9.4.25_f7e0205e8c_9.0.zip/ this firmware. will it erase my data and internal storage
kaleempirzada said:
I am on Pie firmware, can I flash with Oreo firmware so that I can go back to stock miui Oreo,
Presently I am using Pixel Rom latest.
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Yeah I have same question. Right now I'm on Pie FW just because of Pixel Experience ROM. I want to try Havoc OS but it's using Oreo FW. Is it possible to flash Oreo FW safely? And which variant? Just asking because I have ARB no. 4 and I'm little bit scared of brick. So anyone? Thanks
imatesi said:
Yeah I have same question. Right now I'm on Pie FW just because of Pixel Experience ROM. I want to try Havoc OS but it's using Oreo FW. Is it possible to flash Oreo FW safely? And which variant? Just asking because I have ARB no. 4 and I'm little bit scared of brick. So anyone? Thanks
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Yes, you can flash Oreo fw without brick. Just be sure to flash the latest Oreo fw.

Help/Guide needed to update from Android 9 (Aosp rom) to Android 11

Hello friends,
Greetings!
I need your assistance in installing custom rom (Android 11) in my redmi note 8. Currently i was in anroid 9 aosp (pototo) rom. I have nt used this mobile for long time using other mobile.
Much appreciated your help.
shameemindia said:
Hello friends,
Greetings!
I need your assistance in installing custom rom (Android 11) in my redmi note 8. Currently i was in anroid 9 aosp (pototo) rom. I have nt used this mobile for long time using other mobile.
Much appreciated your help.
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do a clean flash (replace A10 FW with A11 FW)
loopypalm said:
do a clean flash (replace A10 FW with A11 FW)
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Thanks for the info, but still not clear.
Im currently running Aosp 9 rom installed almost a year back.
Do i have to flash android 10 official firmaware and thern android 11 official firmware and root, twrp and flash custom rom. Or directly possible to flash aosp 11 rom through twrp?
shameemindia said:
Im currently running Aosp 9 rom installed almost a year back.
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dosen't matter, instruction did not change since then
shameemindia said:
Do i have to flash android 10 FW and then android 11 ?
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no need, FW always overwrite files, (that's why it's possible to downgrade FW)
just one thing to keep in mind :
some A11 dev recomand using A10 FW to be able to use 5GHz frequency in WiFi
ask the dev of the rom you want to use about the FW if you plan to use 5GHz ...
shameemindia said:
Or directly possible to flash aosp 11 rom through twrp?
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possible ,but twrp have some encryption problems after flashing A11 rom, that's why i recomand using orangefox
loopypalm said:
do a clean flash (replace A10 FW with A11 FW)
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Thanks for the info, but still not clear.
Im curr
loopypalm said:
dosen't matter, instruction did not change since then
no need, FW always overwrite files, (that's why it's possible to downgrade FW)
just one thing to keep in mind :
some A11 dev recomand using A10 FW to be able to use 5GHz frequency in WiFi
ask the dev of the rom you want to use about the FW if you plan to use 5GHz ...
possible ,but twrp have some encryption problems after flashing A11 rom, that's why i recomand using orangefox
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Thanks for the info bro

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