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I'm getting a fair bit of slowdown recently on my MDA Compact lll. For instance, I'll reboot and then find I get very delayed response if I click on something, ( such as contacts, sim card, tomtom, etc) like it's thinking about it and working hard to bring up the information. It can take forever. Sometimes the tomtom logo on the desktop doesn't appear. And sometimes the contact list shows up empty even though the scroll bar is working on the right, so it knows there's a list of contacts but they're invisible until I reboot.
It can take up to 3 reboots before everything is back to normal and responding fast again. I've done several hard resets recently so it's not like it needs formatting. Could something be corrupted? I was thinking maybe corruption of the storage card, but then why would it affect the contacts list which is not on the storage card.
Yet another thread that gets no replies. Seriously, this forum is ****.
Only just seen this..
When monitoring the startup of my XDA Orbit it uses around 85-90% memory for at least a minute until it settles down to 50%.
What contacts software are you using and do you have SPB Pocket Plus installed?
Nick
dontpannic said:
Only just seen this..
When monitoring the startup of my XDA Orbit it uses around 85-90% memory for at least a minute until it settles down to 50%.
What contacts software are you using and do you have SPB Pocket Plus installed?
Nick
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Hi. No contacts software other than the default WM5. I just transferred my 118 phone contacts from my sim card to the phones own contact list. Nope, I don't have SPB Pocket Plus on my phone.
I was begining to think that i was the only one suffering from this problem - obviously not as it appears there are plenty of others on other forums are having similar problems - it was suggested that this is best place for the answer - please someone help as i'm pulling out what little hair i've got left!
The Desire keeps telling me that i'm running low on internal storage space - the phone is "clean" as it was delivered - in other words there isn't any other apps been loaded.
I go to manage applications and discover that the HTC Mail application says it has 75mb in data - This cannot be right - but i go to my inbox to find i have 15 headers there each with a 100k limit.
I delete them from the inbox, go to the Trash folder and delete them from there too so they are deleted from phone.
I then go back to the Mail App and it tells me i have 76mb in data
As i continue to receive email the amount of data keeps rising.
I've spoken to VF - they tell me to do a factory reset - still the same.
The phone's OS is getting jerkier by the day as obviously it is loosing operational memory - the Mail today tells me i have 96mb - but i don't have any emails on the phone so where the heck is this data?
If this goes on the phone will ground to a complete stop.
Hope someone can assist as i and thousands of other will be extremely grateful !
Keep up the excellent forum
Have you checked to see if there are any other folders being filled up as it syncs?
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Have you checked to see if there are any other folders being filled up as it syncs?
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Thanks EroThraX but unless i'm missing something here i'm begining to think i'm thick - but by all means point me in the right direction !
I've checked all the mail folders - Inbox, Outbox, Drafts, Sent and Trash and they are all empty.
There isn't a single email on the phone yet it tells me i've now 98mb in data - and yes the OS is now extremely jerky
Download "quick app clean cache"
Fon22
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Download "quick app clean cache"
Fon22
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Well i've just paid and downloaded the app but it dosen't do anything - it is for clearing the cache - you can do that without getting the app.
What it won't clear is the data
So thanks for trying but that is a dead end.
Anyone else have any ideas?
I guess there is indeed a problem with the mail app. My problem isn't as big as the OP but Mail has 1.9 MB in data and I have no accounts set up! I did play with it for a while bit didn't like it so I'm using only the Gmail app, so I deleted all my accounts in Mail. Why does it still have data (2 MB of it!)?
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Well i've just paid and downloaded the app but it dosen't do anything - it is for clearing the cache - you can do that without getting the app.
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Launch the app, and go into menu
List items by data usage.
You should see where its all being kept
Fon22
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Launch the app, and go into menu
List items by data usage.
You should see where its all being kept
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Thanks mate - but i've done this already and all it shows you is indeed where it is all stored - in the Mail App in data - not cache.
Curiously the write up for the app states that it allows you to remove data - yet in reality it dosn't allow you to remove data only the cache - so the search continues - what i cannot understand is how many people it is affecting yet there isn't that much of a panic on at the moment to it swallowing data.
i admit that i have plenty of emails coming in and i remove them out of the inbox and trash folders but the data is still there - but where the heck is it ?
You're not the only one at all. I've been troubleshooting this for a few weeks now. First it was the cache, which is somewhat tamed by the above aforementioned app. Now it's the data. With some apps, the data just keeps growing day by day. My Mail is now at 3.5MB without me knowing why (empty mail accounts) and my internet is at 6.2MB - although I'm inclined to reckon this is due to added bookmarks.
In the Mail app, under Menu>More>Settings>General Settings>Attachment Cache, do you have "external storage" selected?
Somehow, deleted junk mail attachments were still being kept and this was how one of my storage related issues was resolved. I go into the SD card dir and manually delete the large attachments now, if I can clearly make out which are unwanted. Even after the selected mail is deleted, their attachments are still there.
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I`m going to go out on a limb and say that the op is using a googlemail or gmail account with the Htc Mail app and unless you actually delete from the account,not just the phone then the trash will just keep being resynced and added back.
Similar thing happened to me, but with the browser and perhaps with some other application, same 75mb in data, so it has to be a bug of some sort...
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You're not the only one at all. I've been troubleshooting this for a few weeks now. First it was the cache, which is somewhat tamed by the above aforementioned app. Now it's the data. With some apps, the data just keeps growing day by day. My Mail is now at 3.5MB without me knowing why (empty mail accounts) and my internet is at 6.2MB - although I'm inclined to reckon this is due to added bookmarks.
In the Mail app, under Menu>More>Settings>General Settings>Attachment Cache, do you have "external storage" selected?
Somehow, deleted junk mail attachments were still being kept and this was how one of my storage related issues was resolved. I go into the SD card dir and manually delete the large attachments now, if I can clearly make out which are unwanted. Even after the selected mail is deleted, their attachments are still there.
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Thanks for all this - i was begining to think i was the only one suffering from it.
As per your question I do have external storage selected.
So when I go to the sdcard/mail directory are you saying that the files in there are the mail data that the mail app says is in storage internally?
There is a lot of them some are just numbers as the name,
permisssions : .rw
but it dosen't say the Mime type:
Size are all different - 47, 275 bytes
Some are tokens and numbers - but are 0 bytes in size
and i have maybe 20 which are small images (4,020 bytes)
If i'm wrong - slap me ! - surely that means that as i have external data selected the data should go to the sd card - so how come it keeps telling me that i'm low on internal memory if the data is stored on the sd card?
Are you suggesting that this data also needs to be removed too - but how can you differeniate between the files if you did want to keep important emails on the phone when the files are literally just aline of numbers?
Another point suggested by a forum member - the mail account is NOT a web based account - it is a server so that when they are downloaded once that's it you don't get them repeatidly - but thanks for the interest anyway.
Hopefully as other members are discussing this now we might get to a solution before the phones stop completly !
Any news about it? Tried to figure out the location where these files are stored, but couldn't find it
Not sure anyone found an answer, but I believe the /sdcard/.mail directory is the files that get attached to outbound emails. I had my eris configured for the stock email package (for my personal email account) and a gmail account.
I rooted my phone recently and before I installed a bunch of stuff I parused the sdcard contents. The .mail directory had attachments from long ago.
I'm guessing they are orphaned since the email no longer exists on my phone.
I deleted the files since I had all the attachments. (leave the .mail dir)
I had exactly this issue with the HTC mail app also with a pop account.
Cleared cache, deleted all emails, deleted all acounts and then deleted all the actual emails it left behind on the sd card and phone using Astro file manager (yes deleting the accounts and email through the app made no difference and left them physically behind).
After doing all of the above the mail app still showed as 80MB used.
At this point i then bit the bullet and did a "factory data reset", this resolved the issue for me and i havent had the issue since (well sort of, read on).
I am a lot more stringent on my mail sync'd to the app now though which is what is making the difference / a work around.
I only sync 14 days, only download the text (attachments if i need them i do manually).
There is currently only 3MB being shown used in the email app now after 3 weeks (i dont get a lot of email), which is a lot for only text mails for 14 days with the odd attachment.
There is no way there is 3MB worth of email in the mailbox which for me confirms the app itself just doesnt clean up after itself when you delete the mails.
So yep seems like a bug to me, which by the way i saw in 2.1 and 2.2.
Hope that helps
Actually I have exactly same issue with my stock 2.1 desire.
Is this problem resolved in 2.2? I am with an Asia ROM so haven't got 2.2 yet.
Touchdown is okay but I don't really want to install another program just for this stupid bug...
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I read about people having problems with this app just after the Desire was released, it was said that the stock Android email app doesn't have any problems so I have been using that until recently and I never had any problems with it.
I have started using the HTC Mail app but I might switch back after reading this.
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Actually I have exactly same issue with my stock 2.1 desire.
Is this problem resolved in 2.2? I am with an Asia ROM so haven't got 2.2 yet.
Touchdown is okay but I don't really want to install another program just for this stupid bug...
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No its not fixed in 2.2, as per my previous post i have seen this issue in 2.1 and 2.2 which im currently running.
how to claim back the free space without doing a factory reset? my mail app now is 47mb....
Just another confirmation. I have a co-worker with a CDMA Desire running stock 2.1 -- Mail app is showing 69MB and getting the Low Disk Space warning notification. Deleted all mail accounts and power cycled -- no effect.
Probably going to end up doing a master reset.
Hi all,
I finally got myself a unbranded/sim lock free HTC Desire and the first thing i tried to do was to install some extra apps.
So i install an application called AppManager and it was reporting that the device had 145MB free out of 147MG possible .
Up to this moment everything was okay, and then i started to install some other applications, and since some of them didn't made my happy i just uninstalled them.
This procedure was been done maybe for a half-dozen applications, and at the end i only left the AppManager installed. However now the device reports 101MG free out of 147MG possible. I have restarted the device some times, and this value maintains the same..so i wonder where all the memory went? Is there some sort of bug in the memory management or in the uninstall procedure of applications within HTC Desire / Android 2.1 OS?
If there's any extra info i can provide, feel free to ask for it.
Thanks for your time,
Bruno
Have you tried clearing the internet and mail cache, these can soak up several Mb
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Have you tried clearing the internet and mail cache, these can soak up several Mb
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Hi adesonic,
I have only the gmail account setup (and this email account it's an empty one) and i didn't used internet so far.
By installing and uninstalling over and over applications the memory keeps droping until i see the low storage warning message. The way to fix it is to do a factory reset, but it seems to me that something is very wrong with the device/os.
Thanks,
Bruno
that's a known issue mate, i am having it too and many others i think.
i dunno if this is the reason but what's the process of uninstallation ???? maybe the .apk file is left somewhere when we download it and still take space after uninstall
I have the EXACT same problem on my HTC Desire and it is driving me nuts. And to make things worse I have trouble finding other people with the same problem.
Has anyone else experienced this problem and perhaps found a solution? Im going crazy having to do a factory reset to clear up memory from apps I have already uninstalled (I have turned down cache for my browser and my emails cache is very small too.)
I'll wipe my desire in a few minutes. I've got only 8mb left now, and I really deleted all the stuff I didn't really need... Thinking about getting a bigger MicroSD card & doing A2SD until HTC leaks sense for 2.2. I'll report back after reinstalling all my apps
i've got 3MB left
tommo123 said:
i've got 3MB left
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Get Estrongs file explorer and prune your download and downloads folders.
I guess the issue is not having the capacity of microsd card shrinking, but the internal memory being shrinked after several installs/uninstalls. It also drives me mad on my Desire.
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I assume you were using the Market app to install apps. This has a cache that gets pretty big. I've gotten it up to 10mb before. You can go into Applications and choose the market app and clear cache. I've had this issue and the only way I've sorted it was to get the apps I wanted, tested some others, come to some conclusion what I really wanted and then do a fresh restore and only install the apps I wanted.
Something i did not realized before but after reading this thread, i know realized that after 7 days of using my Desire, i only have 43MB left
And to think i was telling myself i can take my time and test as many application as possible cos i can always uninstall those i don't like. Looks like there is an after effect
Is this problem only on rooted desire or?
if you know if this will be fixed with v2.2?
No it's affecting non rooted too.
I did a Factory Reset a while ago. I then had 41MB free, after reset and installing the same apps again i had about 94MB free. All this after trying out a lot of apps.
Now it´s the same again, So a reset will free a lot of memory.
Does anyone know of an app that will back up my e-mail accounts settings? That was the only part that had to be reconfigured after the reset. WiFi, contacts and app settings are a breeze but the e-mail settings has to be done manually.
yes but factory reset delete all settings..or? isnt this annoying?
Not at all, if you've selected Menu/Settings/Privacy (Iguess, my phone is in Swerdish)
That will back up almost everything.
Not your Own Theme settings however.
i hope that this will be fixed with v2.2. Becouse i want buy this phone, but i will think twice. Problems with memory, vibrating, multitouch, and so on..
-Hell No! (Sorry )
This is an awsome phone, I've had no problems with mine.
Yes there is a shortage of memory, but you'll find that in other phones too and it will be taken care of somewhat in 2.2. The very few shortcomings are out weighted by its stellar performance in other ways. The multitasking in the Desire is seriously good. I often use 3-4 apps simultaneously and it doesnt even lag or slow down. Cardiotrainer, Music and c:geo is working about an hour together everyday and when the phone rings or I get an message/mail I don't have to exit the running apps - try that on an iPhone
My advice - Buy it and do it now.
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No it's affecting non rooted too.
I did a Factory Reset a while ago. I then had 41MB free, after reset and installing the same apps again i had about 94MB free. All this after trying out a lot of apps.
Now it´s the same again, So a reset will free a lot of memory.
Does anyone know of an app that will back up my e-mail accounts settings? That was the only part that had to be reconfigured after the reset. WiFi, contacts and app settings are a breeze but the e-mail settings has to be done manually.
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Sorry i have to ask but when you say setting up WiFi, contacts and apps is a breeze....do you mean restoring from the back up? Now if i would to hard reset, how do i restore my data from the memory card assuming i don't want to sync my contacts & calendar. What about general phone settings?
Well, all WiFi connections I had set up before - they just worked again.
All apps will be wiped, but they will be on your Downloaded page in Market. So its just a matter of installing them again.
All apps that had files and settings on memory card - recognized this and all was back to normal.
I use Google Calendar and that syncs back when setting up your Google account again.
Contacts I sync with Outlook, but if you have them in your Google Gmail account as contacts I suppose they just sync back.
The only thing I really had to do all over was setting up my e-mail accounts. The rest just fell in place.
Only thing I lost was my history in CardioTrainer, because I forgot to "Backup to SD card".
So take a peek in your apps if there is an option to backup to SD card and when the app is installed after the reset you can restore from your card again.
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Well, all WiFi connections I had set up before - they just worked again.
All apps will be wiped, but they will be on your Downloaded page in Market. So its just a matter of installing them again.
All apps that had files and settings on memory card - recognized this and all was back to normal.
I use Google Calendar and that syncs back when setting up your Google account again.
Contacts I sync with Outlook, but if you have them in your Google Gmail account as contacts I suppose they just sync back.
The only thing I really had to do all over was setting up my e-mail accounts. The rest just fell in place.
Only thing I lost was my history in CardioTrainer, because I forgot to "Backup to SD card".
So take a peek in your apps if there is an option to backup to SD card and when the app is installed after the reset you can restore from your card again.
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Thanks for the info. Will come in handy looking at my memory already now left with 25MB. It's going to be too soon before i have to hard reset
Ok..
I am pulling my hair out on this.
I rooted the phone, unrevoked forever!, and now my phone is always reporting it is low on storage. I removed half the apps on the phone and can't get rid of the message.
I did do a nandroid recovery once to make sure the nandroid backup was good (could that screw up the storage totals)?
Under phone storage:
SD Card:
Total 7.6, avialable: 6.2
Internal Phone: Total: 6.6gb, available: 6.45
Phone Memory: Total: 748mb, available 628mb
Looking at the items listed under manage memory (when you click low storage) I estimage about 160mb or so of storage.
When I mount the drives on my computer, I am matching the numbers shown above for available (but the bar charts in windows showing how much memory is left are wrong - they are showing very little free storage).
Any suggestions on how to fix this? I am out of apps I can remove (and that does not seem like the issue anyways).
Any suggestions?
I had this happen over and over again over the life of the phone, including well before root (the first time within days of receipt).
Online, I could only find discussions where people blamed HTC's Mail application, which appears to increase in size, even when no new mail has been downloaded. Asinine, because we have PLENTY of storage?
However, 90% of my ROM installs, I haven't even bothered to set up HTC Mail, and still had it happen. A few times I went into Settings > Applications > Manage Applications, and cleared out data for com.htc.provider.settings or com.htc.socialnetwork.provider to clear the message.
The last time, yesterday, I deleted Facebook/Twitter data (official applications from the market), and deleted Google Earth. One of those cleared it.
I've sat around quiet about it because obviously this isn't widespread. HTC is aware of the issue... but considering I've run two sense and two vanilla ROMs based on leaked 2.2, I have a strange feeling I'm going to keep seeing it.
Let me know if you find anything that isn't a little more hearsay. I'll do the same. My next plan is to wait for Cyanogen and do apps2sd. Don't know why I linked the two, but that is the plan.
I did a complete wipe and a nandroid recovery of my base ROM. While syncing in Touchdown, the low storage message popped up (I sync a large amount of data - ~68mb of data currently). I went into touchdown and removed a few folders (shrinking the data file size) and the message went away.
I am guessing there is a bug when data file size (either one or the aggregate of all) hits a certain threshold the message pops up. For now, I am just syncing less data and will see if it appears again.
I freaked the first time I saw that. Then I saw I had 5 nandroid backups. I moved all but one into a file on my computer and TAHDAH! I had space again. Of course I'm still using the 2GB card that came with the phone, but check how many nandroid backups you have, or back ups from other apps.
Is anyone aware of or experiencing any problems with the android market?
I'm using a Stock UK Orange ROM. 25mb free internal space. Using Android market I can go through all the motions and tap install I get the message saying my item will be downloaded. The "downloading" bar appears and is animated, This happened last night. This morning the item had downloaded.
I thought that was the end of it but as I write this I've been waiting an hour for a clock widget to download.
Have also tried via appbrain but experience the same problem.
I can watch youtube videos and browse so I am online. Is there a hidden setting I might have misconfigured? or anyone else experiencing the same thing?
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Is anyone aware of or experiencing any problems with the android market?
I'm using a Stock UK Orange ROM. 25mb free internal space. Using Android market I can go through all the motions and tap install I get the message saying my item will be downloaded. The "downloading" bar appears and is animated, This happened last night. This morning the item had downloaded.
I thought that was the end of it but as I write this I've been waiting an hour for a clock widget to download.
Have also tried via appbrain but experience the same problem.
I can watch youtube videos and browse so I am online. Is there a hidden setting I might have misconfigured? or anyone else experiencing the same thing?
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Since you have 25MB free, that is peculiar. Typically downloads get stuck in queue when space is low -- in which case you are getting a notification in the Notification Bar that you are "Getting Low on Empty Storage Space". In those cases remedy of course is to uninstall a few apps you rarely use. After you do that, the "Low on Storage Space" icon will clear, and the instant that it does, all of the downloads you had started -- but were all stuck in queue -- will now proceed -- instantly.
But in your case i don't know. Are you for certain NOT getting that icon notification? (just checking that's all)... Then this probably won't solve your case at all. THIS POST: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7663366&postcount=17
No worries.
The only thing in my notification bar is the icon for advanced task killer, and 1 Gmail notification.
I've uninstalled a couple more apps but that still hasn't forced a download. This has only happened in the past couple of days and it crossed my mind that google might have been tinkering, but i've read nothing of the sort.
Just been to the shop and back and in those 5 mins Tajam (the clock widget from my OP) has downloaded... I've just added a pinball game, but it hasn't downloaded...
Is it at all possible that an application has reserved space? As in I might have 25mb free but some app has reserved some of the free space on my handset?
Nobody else had this issue then?
Any thoughts on a solution? would a hard reset solve this?
Try to:
- start your google-talk-app
- use the menu-button to open the menu and sign-out!
- restart the google-talk-app
- use the menu-button to open the menu and sign-out!
usually, after the 2nd or third time you do that, the download-process begins...
edit: you should notice that the log-in-process of the google-talk-app takes some time, seeing the spinning wheel-symbol on the top-right... just ignore it, start the app, wait 5 seconds and sign-out, repeat...
Thanks for the reply but I dont have google talk installed.
I'm thinking a hard reset might be my only option but it's a pain, and now difficult to download any backup software.
Found this thread http://www.google.tm/support/forum/p/Android+Market/thread?tid=57b5e3efa7477b50&hl=en
Started by a google employee, subsequently locked. Seems to be a recurring problem
I've the same issue, cancel/abort the download and start it again fixes the issue
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Hey,
I suffered from the same issue...
I literally tried every in the book but to no avail!
Eventually I had to add a file manager into a rom in order to manually download the apps from the internet and then install them onto my desire!
This is a repeat issue with the Android OS. It does go away after a while... Give it a day or two and it'll just literally stop with the issues.
Good luck friend
I had this issue last week and tried every trick I could to get things working again, even a hard/factory reset didn't work. From reviewing the thread you quoted from the Google support forums I got the impression that it was a Google account problem of some sort so before doing a second factory reset I changed from @googlemail to @gmail and for whatever reason after the hard reset this has done the trick.
Yes, I am having the same problem too and only started couple days ago... I can't download anything at the moment
Still no market downloads
After the froyo update for me, there's still no way
to update or download apps from the market.
I tried all the options now known:
Gtalk
Cache clearing
Factory reset
Etc.
What to do next???
I checked a few places and this seems to be a common problem. One thread on the market forums was started by a google employee, 400+ replies later the thread was marked as answered (which it clearly wasnt) Now the forums are becoming littered with posts on this same problem.
I've managed to sort it out. Settings>apps>market>clear cache>force close market>soft reset seemed to force any pending downloads.
But that wasnt really a solution, so had to export contacts to gmail. Change my googlemail account to a gmail account (as prompted when you login to Gmail in the UK.... then I had to perform a hard reset and make my Gmail account the primary google account on my handset.
Very annoying, and I'm in disbelief that google are SO aware of this and dont seem to be offering any help.
But for the time being it's working again. The suggestion on the market help forums is that the UK market is having problems with @googlemail accounts.
Well i never had the googlemail adress and i'm not from the UK, so there's more to
it then only that specific problem....
Pls advice....
None of the great developers here has an idea what's happening here or maybe a solution to this issue????
Pls help out guys?
Guys please advice, i'm just a bit desperate with this issue.
Nothing seems te help and google stays as silent that i lost faith they are going
to fix this....
Does this mean my DESIRE became useless??!??!?!
It's a bit temperamental to be honest, I left it at 'Starting Download' and sometimes it would start after a few hours and another time after about a day. Never used to be like this before. Google need to seriously take a look at this problem.
Sadly my downloads all just end in "failed" within 5 secs....
Had Problems downloading for a month
Hi All,
I have had this problem for about a month now. Never starts to download for me except if I do a factory reset then it downloads some apps between 3 and 22 apps before it hangs again. The phone is a Samsung Galaxy s I9000. Unlocked. I tried different SIM cards from different carriers and removing the SD memory. I can download from different places on the web like Samsung or one of the web sites that have the apps just not the market.
Has anyone else been having this problem for that long?
Regards
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It's a bit temperamental to be honest, I left it at 'Starting Download' and sometimes it would start after a few hours and another time after about a day. Never used to be like this before. Google need to seriously take a look at this problem.
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Same here. I usually leave the downloads "hanging" around. After 10 min. to a few hours, the downloads start.
Same with "Chrome to phone". Both apps use the GTalk service to send commands to the phone. Google broke something.