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Hi guys
Upgraded to Note 2 N7105 International version 4 weeks ago, great phone and really loving all the features.
Trouble is I bought this because I wanted a more powerful phone than my previous Nexus S, so It could handle more powerful apps and games.
So on top of the internal 16gb of internal memory, I installed a Sandisk 64gb external card to store my apps and games, not realizing the phone does not support moving Apps to SD in standard form.
After investigating, found i could do it with a third party app with root access. So I rooted with Chainfires CF Auto Root, and installed link2sd App. My phone is definitely rooted as I have Titanium Backup working, but when i try to move any Apps to SD it says no free memory, and also to check SD card has been formatted with 2 partitions and they are both set to primary, and on the info page for link2sd its says the same about partitioning
I assume this formatting is my problem as the SD card is virtually empty, just 3 pics and 2 short videos on it, and still showing 59gb free when i go to settings/storage.
If this is my problem, how do I get it formatted correctly, I tried to do it through my computer running XP but only get format command, with no option for Partitions or any thing, are there any programs or procedures you can recommend
Thanks in advance
Gary
GaryFromLondon said:
Hi guys
Upgraded to Note 2 N7105 International version 4 weeks ago, great phone and really loving all the features.
Trouble is I bought this because I wanted a more powerful phone than my previous Nexus S, so It could handle more powerful apps and games.
So on top of the internal 16gb of internal memory, I installed a Sandisk 64gb external card to store my apps and games, not realizing the phone does not support moving Apps to SD in standard form.
After investigating, found i could do it with a third party app with root access. So I rooted with Chainfires CF Auto Root, and installed link2sd App. My phone is definitely rooted as I have Titanium Backup working, but when i try to move any Apps to SD it says no free memory, and also to check SD card has been formatted with 2 partitions and they are both set to primary, and on the info page for link2sd its says the same about partitioning
I assume this formatting is my problem as the SD card is virtually empty, just 3 pics and 2 short videos on it, and still showing 59gb free when i go to settings/storage.
If this is my problem, how do I get it formatted correctly, I tried to do it through my computer running XP but only get format command, with no option for Partitions or any thing, are there any programs or procedures you can recommend
Thanks in advance
Gary
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There is a mod that lets you swap internal memory with sd card. Have a look in this threat.
If you only need to format your sd card to FAT 32 then you should get the GUI version of this app here
SD card format
Thanks for the info Retrorom
Have decided not to go down the internal external memory swap route, for various operational reasons, plus quite a few people seem to be getting issues with it. And the other one didn't seem to have a facility to make your own partitions, which is what i need.
After reading up a bit, From recommendations I have installed a program called Minitool Partition Wizard on my computer.
The only problem now is when i attach the card to the computer, it is showing as only having 27gb of usable memory, whereas in the phone it was showing 59gb. I thought this may be because it needed reformatting, so I formatted on the computer, and it was then only showing 27gb i when inserted in the phone, so i have again reformatted the card in the phone, and again now showing 59gb as it was originally. But i still still only have1 partition, and need 2 for the link2sd program to work
The trouble is when i put the SD back in the the computer it still only shows 27gb that is 32gb short of the 59gb what it shows while in the phone.
Was wondering why this should be, I'm running an old Pentium 4 system with XP on it, would it be that this can not handle or recognise 64 gb cards.
Just to mention i will be upgrading this computer 2 Windows 7 within the next week or so, and also going to build a brand new one in a couple of weeks which will have Windows 7 also , so should be a lot more compatible and flexible if that is the problem
SD Card Format
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I've been reading up, and it seems, Windows, especially earlier versions cannot recognize or format SD Cards over 32 gb, something to do with errors in the architecture, which wasn't originally designed for cards of this size.
There is a driver update, to get over this, but negotiating the Microsoft site to download it is proving to be a bit of a mission, It's ridiculously complicated, just sending me round and around in circles to try and find the download.
So if anyone can point me to the download, or a download that will do the job it will be much appreciated
Download exfat support for old XP machine
Download and use file according your XP system 32/64bit
you will get format with exfat format. which support larger size.
Another thing i recommend is 'directory bind' for moving data to ext SD card, this also make hassle free factory reset, Here is guide.
Thanks Ketan
I've already got the exFat support loaded, though it still only shows 27 gb on card
Now looking at the directory bind, and may give that a try later, once I've given it a good read and know i'm not going to do anything wrong .
Will let you know later how it goes
I'm actually surprised the phone supports higher than Windows. Most phones are limited to 32 gb cards are they not?
GaryFromLondon said:
Thanks Ketan
I've already got the exFat support loaded, though it still only shows 27 gb on card
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have you try formating it on PC with exfat support?
UnL33t My Galaxy Note 2 Automatically recognises the higher capacity
Ketan yes I've tried to format on computer with exfat support, but still only shows 27gb, and when i put back in phone it showed 27gb in there too, so had to reformat it in the phone and now showing 59gb as it was originally,
But still showing 27gb when put in computer
I am going to upgrade my XP up to windows 7 in a couple of weeks, and also going to build a new games machine with Windows 7 on in a few weeks too, do you reckon they will have better support for the higher capacity card built in
This is a brand new 16GB Wifi Galaxy Tab 10.1 2014 Edition. All I've done is let it update firmware and the multitude of apps that came installed on it. Hardware upgrade consisted of adding a 64GB microSD card. I removed it once I found out I couldn't copy files to it.
I'm trying to copy files to the tab. I'm using the usb cable that came with it. When I connect the tablet to a PC it installs the drivers without error. I go to Windows Explorer and I can see the file system on the tablet. I try to create a folder, (EG in Downloads) on the tablet from windows explorer and I get an error after a minute or so -> "The new folder could not be created in this location. The device has either stopped responding or has been disconnected." This error occurs with and without the sdcard installed when writing to internal or external memory.
The tablet is set up so USB is connected as a media device.
I also tried Kies 3 but results were similar, except that the error in kies was less informative.
Same errors/problems occur from 2 different PCs - a Win 7 Pro x64 and a Win 7 Ult x32.
I'm pretty frustrated now. I've spent a couplke hours messing with this thing. One of the reasons I bought it over a ipad was so I could easily transfer files. It's turning out it worse that Apple & their itunes junk.
I found one way to get files over. Pull the microSD, put it in a USB card reader, attach to my PC, transfer the files to the card and replace the card in the tablet.
SNEAKERNET LIVES!
Just plugged my new 64gb Galaxy Note 10.1 into my Windows 8.1 laptop, waited about a minute to "install software" whatever that means - drivers? Under "This PC - Devices and Drives" is SM-P600. Both the tablet and micro-sd cards are there and I had no trouble creating a new folder and copying files to it for either one. So, no problems there. How is the card formatted? NTFS,FAT32, etc
EasyOne said:
Just plugged my new 64gb Galaxy Note 10.1 into my Windows 8.1 laptop, waited about a minute to "install software" whatever that means - drivers? Under "This PC - Devices and Drives" is SM-P600. Both the tablet and micro-sd cards are there and I had no trouble creating a new folder and copying files to it for either one. So, no problems there. How is the card formatted? NTFS,FAT32, etc
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I did the copy at work and now I'm home. I insert the microSD and all the files are there. Only ths file names are gibberish. This card was initialized in the tablet.
I leave tomorrow am early for a 2 week vacation. This tablet was bought specifically so I could do some reading while on vacation.
This POS is going back. I should have bought an ipad. At least I would have something usable.
Your 64GB MIcroSD card is a SDXC -- you may want to check your card reader to make sure that it is SDXC capable and not just SDHC. If you're using a SD card reader built-in to a PC, chances are pretty good that it's not SDXC.
I just bought a Samsung 64GB UHS-I card for my 16GB Note 10.1 2014 and even though I have four different card readers (one of them just a couple months old), none of them can read or write to a SDXC card. So I plugged in my tablet to my USB port on my PC, and even though I know I have the latest Samsung drivers on it, it didn't recognize it as a storage device. I switched it to being a "camera" in the settings of the tablet and my desktop found both the internal 16GB card and the external 64GB card and I was able to copy all of my data from my other tablet's 32GB SDHC card over to the 64GB card that way.
Just FYI, I'm the only one in my family of six who has an Android tablet -- my wife and four children all have iPads, and I've had to setup/configure each one. I would rather slam my own head in a car door 25 times than configure even just one more frickin' iPad. Each one I encountered something completely different, there's little to no help on the internet (can't tell you how many times I was told, "You'll probably have to take it in to your local Apple Store's Genius Bar" for EVERY...SINGLE....ISSUE....I....ENCOUNTERED. And I'm not even USING these iPads -- I'm just trying to set them up, get them synced with long-time iTunes accounts, etc. If you want an iPad, go for it. Good luck!
I have no issues copying to my 32 GB SD card or the internal memory in the tablet itself. I should mention my 32 GB card is formatted as exFAT. Also, make sure your tablet is unlocked when you initially connect it. I found out with my galaxy note 2 that if I have a passcode on it and the device is locked, my pc will not recognize the storage present on the device until I unlock it.
It's b/c the file you're trying to copy over is corrupt.
I use ES File Explorer. There is a place to open shared folder in the network
You can also use Samsung Link so you don't have to use a USB connection. It provides root-level access on the mobile devices and PCs it's installed on.
Go to settings then General then "about device" tap on the build number 10 times and you will see Developer options appear. in developer options click USB debugging.
Hopefully this will allow you to see your sd card and you can then move files freely between your computer and the tablet.
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I use ES File Explorer. There is a place to open shared folder in the network
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This. Why are people doing things the hard way? I've been using ES for years to copy files from smb shares. Works perfect.
ElAguila said:
I use ES File Explorer. There is a place to open shared folder in the network
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Not to steal the thread but this brings up a question. I used to use ES but it started popping up after every install or update. I deleted it. Is there a way to stop that from happening?
Thanks....
jonling said:
Not to steal the thread but this brings up a question. I used to use ES but it started popping up after every install or update. I deleted it. Is there a way to stop that from happening?
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That was a bug. Lasted a few weeks and the dev fixed it.
It was a corrupt file... Guaranteed...
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Hi
i have a Samsung SM -T800 and just recently needed to increase storage. So checked the specs and bought a micro sd 128 gb.
(My device is Not rooted)
When i try to use the default native samsung file manager it complains when i try to write to it. (Unsuccessful)
If i put in a smaller 1gb card its OK. I tried the 128gb in my Lenovo tablet and it works fine it (rooted) and in a desktop.
I tried my favorite file explorer esfile and the time i go to add a file it prompts to accept using samsung native interface but that still falls too.
I formatted it in the tablet and mount and unmount it safely but no joy.
i looked at using sd fix and sd mount apps but they all need root
Running android 5.0.2
i am wanting to root the device but currently the guide does not have CF file for SM-T800
it probably doesnt support a card that big
Yup it does, specs show it can and i even contacted samsung support to confirm before buying it.
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Yup it does, specs show it can and i even contacted samsung support to confirm before buying it.
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i thought when I checked the website earlier, it said up to 64 gig..
thanks, just rooted this am, couldnt be easier!
I have purchased a week ago a Galaxy Tab S 8.4 (T705M) and I am using a 64 Gb MicroSD in it.
I upgraded to 5.02 (OTA) since June/26.
I have problems with external MicroSD when the tablet is connected via USB to my PC (Windows 7, Home, 64 bits).
Whe trying to copy files from the PC to the tablet external MicroSD, the operation is very, very slow and some files (existing previously in the external MicroSD) disappear. Very annoying.
I had same problem with another Tab S I purchased by January and I returned it to the vendor. In that case, the tablet was on Kit Kat (as it is sold).
Yesterday, after the Tablet erases several directories from the SD, I turned off the tablet and extracted the SD. I tried to fix the SD directly connected to the PC but the SD appears as "read only".
After trying for a while I gave up and I formatted the SD (extFAT) and copy the info from a backup I did before putting the SD in the teeth (fangs?) of the tablet (yeah, I guessed the tablet would be as a wild beast when managing SD's). The "re"formatted microSD behaved as a charm, all info copied without any problem (but it took almost 3 hours copying 50 Gb at about 7 Mb/second).
On the other hand, I used this same SD card in my old Note 8 (Jellybean) for more than a year without problems.
Now, I guess the only way I have is extracting the SD card and edit its content only connecting it directly to a PC.
What can I do to calm down the beast and edit external MicroSD connecting the tablet via USB without losing information and with a reasonable speed ?
Any suggestion ?
Root your device and apply the sd card fix. Also 7mb/s seems about normal for a cheap micro sd card.
I have not had any problems with files disappearing, have you confirmed your 64gb microsd is not a fake.
I have a Samsung 64gb microsd, and i got around 9MB/s copying a movie from my notebook to my T800 10.5"
John.
Thanks for the comments.
My card is Verbatim Class 10 and it worked perfectly in my old Note 8. It works really as stated for a class 10 SD (10 MB/s at peaks as stated in https://www.sdcard.org/developers/overview/speed_class/) but, as with any device, speed depends on several factors (file sizes, buffer in the source PC, etc) and the average obtained is really about 7 MB/s or so.
I guess the problem is related with something in Lollipop (but Tinderbox says has no problems) or, more probable, driver in the PC.
Tinderbox, are you using Kies to transfer ? are you transferring from a PC or a Mac ? which class is your SD ? have you enabled "USB debugging" ?
I purchased an 8 GB SD in order to make some tests. This SD is Class 4 and formatted FAT32 but anyway I will test it to learn about this riddle....
In the mean time, any suggestions are welcome and I repeat, thanks for the answers.
UPDATE:
Sandisk SD (8 GB, FAT32) worked perfectly, no erases, good speed (Class 4, speed tablet connected via USB about 4 MB/s).
Next test planned: reformat Verbatim 64 GB using FAT32.
I am on kitkat 4.4.2 and i dont use kies, I just drag and drop my files from my notebook to the tablet, I did not need to enable usb debugging, my 64gb is full of video, I copy them virtually every day and have had not problems.
I think i read about another 8.4" owner having problems with his microsd card i will have a look for it.
I have only ever bought Samsung memory cards for years and i have never had a problem.
Have you tried re-installing the device driver, you can do it from the kies menu.
John.
Tinderbox (UK) said:
I am on kitkat 4.4.2 and i dont use kies, I just drag and drop my files from my notebook to the tablet, I did not need to enable usb debugging, my 64gb is full of video, I copy them virtually every day and have had not problems.
I think i read about another 8.4" owner having problems with his microsd card i will have a look for it.
I have only ever bought Samsung memory cards for years and i have never had a problem.
Have you tried re-installing the device driver, you can do it from the kies menu.
John.
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Thanks for your complete answer(s).
I have made several (a lot) of tests without any success. In all cases SD can not be written from a PC (when connected via USB) and erasing files using android app sometimes cause corruption.
The card is completely readable (a little laggy to begin to work after it was unmounted and reinserted). The card works without errors when connected directly to the PC.
These are the some tests I have made (reformatting and restoring the files between one test and the next, a real nightmare ):
1. Uninstalling Kies
2. Reinstalling Kies (and refreshing driver)
3. Uninstalling Kies and Samsung driver. Uninstalling USB driver and erasing it completely and let windows select the driver
4. Formatting the card in FAT32 via some software
5. Trying to format the card via command in windows (from the console). It takes about one hour and abort near the end with an error messages explaining that windows can not format FAT32 for this capacity
6. Even trying to partition the SD via DISKPART. I can create one primary partition (32000 MB) but DISKPART shows all disk allocated and do not allow to create another partition (either primary or extended)
Last symptom: I erased one file from the root directory of the SD using "My files" (the app preinstalled in the firmware by Samsung). The file disappear but My files shows a ghost file named with special characters.
When the SD is consulted via Root Explorer (an android file manager) or even connected directly to the PC, the ghost file did not show.
@tinderbox: could you remember who (or where do you read about) the other " 8.4" owner having problems with his microsd card " ?
Some body could suggest solution ?
Thanks for any help or guide.
Hi.
You did format the micosd card using the tablet, you cannot format on an computer and then use it in your tablet, the tablet uses it own file system, so you have to format the microsd using the tablet.
John.
Format the card to exFat in windows. It only takes a few seconds to format my Samsung Evo 64gb.
If it doesn't work then your card likely has issues.
Finally success
Thanks for your suggestions.
I tried almost everything:
1. Formatting FAT32
2. Reformatting in the tablet
3. Reformatting in the PC
4. Even formatting using a software from Verbatim website
The problem persists: SD Card is not editable (delete files, write files, edit files) when inserted in the tablet. SD works perfectly in the PC.
Finally I purchased another SD 64 Gb Toshiba Class 10. The SD package says it can work at 40 Mb/sec. The card write at 10 Mb/sec but it reads faster.
This Toshiba card works perfectly. I can erase or move files using android file manager (My Files app), I can write from the PC using tablet connected via USB to the PC. I can create files directly in the tablet (I used Jota+ to create a text file).
Verbatim card and Toshiba card specs seem identical, except by the speed claimed in the Toshiba package. There is some difference I am missing but definitively these cards are not equal (something in the card data bus ?)
I repeat, thanks to everybody who tried to help.
I only ever buy Samsung memory cards for years, and i test every one for errors and i have never found any, And if an Samsung memory card does not work in an Samsung tablet, well it is not going to happen, but people go for the cheap alternative.
John.
Problems with Redmi Note 8 – Corruption of encrypted file systems on SD-Card
Tested with:
• Redmi Note 8 4GB, 64GB
• Redmi Note 8 4GB, 128GB
Tested with:
• Adata 128GB A1 micro SD (x2)
• Lexar 64GB 633x micro SD
• Lexar 32GB 633x micro SD
• Samsung EVO 32GB micro SD
Problem: Encrypted file system on SD-card becomes corrupted every time a large number of files are copied to it. This has been confirmed on two Redmi Note 8 phones and 6x SD cards. All SD-cards have been tested with “badblocks” and they’re working perfectly in other phones and video cameras. Cards also work fine in these phones when set up as unencrypted "portable storage".
How to verify that file-system is corrupt:
via adb:
Above screenshot shows “du” reporting 13M of storage consumed on SD-card, while “df” reports 90G of storage consumed on SD-card. This state is due to corrupted directories which cannot be removed/deleted, renamed, or populated.
The steps outlined below have been duplicated very consistently on these phones. I now own two phones that are not usable, and I’m not happy at all. How to reproduce:
1. Follow instructions here - https://c.mi.com/thread-2601107-1-0.html - [Tips] Enable Adoptable Storage On Mi Phone, or:
2. Insert an unformatted SD-card and follow the prompts to use it as adopted phone storage.
3. SD-card is now set up as encrypted & adopted storage.
4. Copy a lot of files to the SD-card. This can be done via MTP (GUI), adb “push”, using the built-in file browser’s unzip, tar, cpio, etc.
5. It makes no difference how the files are copied to the phone. The most reliable way I found to duplicate this fault is to use “adb push” to copy large music (mp3) directories to the phone. Example via abd would be similar to (but not necessarily identical to) this:
Code:
adb push ~/music/* /sdcard/Music/
6. As files are copying to phone, there may or may not be an “I/O error”. After several GBs of files are copied, there will usually be one or more corrupted directories which can not be removed/deleted, can not be renamed, can not be populated, and appears empty, but they are consuming file system space, as evident with “df”.
7. The corrupted directories are easily found with this (or similar, depending on where the files were copied to):
Code:
rm -r /sdcard/Music/
That will show “Directory not empty” error messages for corrupted directories. Using the built-in file-browser, attempting to delete these corrupt directories will result in a "Couldn't delete file" error.
8. This was first discovered on a Redmi Note 8 4GB/64GB. After testing with several cards, I thought the phone was defective. I then purchased a Redmi Note 8 4GB/128GB phone, and the same problem immediately became apparent. Is this a design flaw? Is this a hardware problem? I have reason to suspect that this is also a problem with custom ROMs, indicating that this is a hardware problem.
9. I now have two of these phones that are not working properly. A functioning file system is essential, thus I consider this a very significant problem. Xiaomi "support" is being 100% useless.
10. But wait, there's more. When attempting to do an official firmware update, the updater hangs at 99% downloading, then fails, when an adopted/encrypted SD-card is installed. Removing the SD-card from the phone does NOT resolve this issue. In order to resolve this issue, the adopted/encrypted SD-card needs to be "forgotten".
When using these phones with SD-cards set up as "portable storage", these problems can not be reproduced.
This is core functionality that's broken.
I'm not sure what to do, since returning these phones is probably not a viable option (because of shipping restrictions on phones with lithium batteries), and Xiaomi is refusing to provide any form of useful support.
Can anyone else confirm that these problems are happening or not? How old is the phone that you're testing with? Thanks…
It would be greatly appreciated if these bugs can be confirmed or repudiated on other devices. Anyone???
Xiaomi "support" just keeps repeating that I should factory-reset the phone. They refuse to either confirm or deny that these are bugs in this phone.
I've been unable to get any support from Xiaomi beyond "factory reset" and "return to seller". Neither of these options are viable for me. I can't see myself buying any more Xiaomi/Redmi products in the future.
I own a Ginkgo and will try it
And will inform you as soon as possible
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go vegan said:
I've been unable to get any support from Xiaomi beyond "factory reset" and "return to seller". Neither of these options are viable for me. I can't see myself buying any more Xiaomi/Redmi products in the future.
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You phone is now bricked I think
Testing with a 32GB card, this is normal, right? :cyclops:
-77GB of system system storage?
And of course, a lot of corrupt files and directories that can't be deleted, and a huge discrepancy between between "du" and "df". Brand new phone, and Xiaomi is doing NOTHING that resembles customer support The Motorola G8 lineup is looking good.
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Testing with a 32GB card, this is normal, right? :cyclops:
-77GB of system system storage?
And of course, a lot of corrupt files and directories that can't be deleted, and a huge discrepancy between between "du" and "df". Brand new phone, and Xiaomi is doing NOTHING that resembles customer support The Motorola G8 lineup is looking good.
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I have 2 sd cards
1. MicroSD 2Gb
2. SanDisk 8Gb Class4
Which do you think should i test with ?
I think you might have got a faulty product i searched in Google for the problem and nothing found about it
Moto is good but i bought Ginkgo for custom roms and development ?
Try to copy small amounts of data in sd card, don't do it all at once.
maybe Phone/Sd Card may not have that much capacity to transfer all that data at once as a PC.
Try to use sd Card through an OTG and a card reader via
usb charging Port and if it transfers all data at once successfully to sd card then surely problem is in phone
I hope you got it
I've got two of these Redmi Note 8 phones, one of them 4GB/64GB, one of them 4GB/128GB. I got them because they seemed like good value phones with lots of community support. They both have the exact same problems, brand new, out of the box.
I'd suggest testing with the larger card, so you can copy more files per test, and duplicate the fault faster.
Copying files faster can aggravate the problem, but copying files slower just takes longer for the problem to manifest. How I copy files makes no difference. Even unpacking a ZIP file can do it.
Also, try this if you can:
Factory-reset the phone
Put an un-formatted SD-card in the phone
Follow the prompts to set up the SD-card as adoptable storage (as per my screen-shots)
Settings → About Phone → System update
See if that works. For me it hangs at 99% and fails. The only way to make it work is to remove the SD-card, and "forget" the SD-card.
Yeah, I noticed this too! An easy fix is to run Window's "Scan and Repair"
Tech_Expert said:
Yeah, I noticed this too! An easy fix is to run Window's "Scan and Repair"
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Does it resolved problem
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Tech_Expert said:
Yeah, I noticed this too! An easy fix is to run Window's "Scan and Repair"
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1- Not in a Linux environment; we use fsck for that.
2- Not with SD-cards that are adopted/encrypted.
For adopted/encrypted SD-cards, see this. I wrote that how-to a couple of years ago, but I shouldn't need to do that every few days, or hours. When I wrote that, I had a card that actually went bad.
my phone seems to have no problem i copied 6.23Gb of data to sandisk
it was sucessful no problem
T.Y.M.SAI said:
my phone seems to have no problem i copied 6.23Gb of data to sandisk
it was sucessful no problem
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With the SD-card adopted and encrypted?
Keep trying with other music collections, and I'll be impressed if you can't duplicate the error. The error will be obvious when you can't delete the directory.