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Update:
I did notice some users pledging, but didn't realized we actually got something going on, I'll be updating with an estimated pledge sum, I'm not naming individuals but at least summarizing this, the ball is rolling and hopefully the purpose of this (which is attract developers in a good, respectful and rewarding way) will pay off!
Dear Fire Phone owners:
We are looking very disorganized and scattered on efforts, we also have GOOD but limited dev support due to the quantity of Fire Phone owners and so the quantity of them that actually visit XDA is even lower.
So let's join efforts, I see @madushan1000 doing effort to unlock the bootloader and willing to blow his own qfuses for it, on his hard earned money.
If you know a developer, or are a developer, we must seek answer for the following answers:
1.- How many phones do you need to play around until you blow up the right qfuse?
(If the answer is n <= 10, I don't see why we can't all join a bounty *paid upfront* for that developer to buy the damn 10 phones ~$1350 dlls, if he gets it done on the first attempt, he deserves the remaining hard earned money solely for rewarding, and even more.)
2.- Is there any exploitable bug on the qcom trustzone that can at least trick into thinking the phone is unlocked? What would be needed to do so?
(If all that's required is a time and effort to do it, I don't see why we can pledge on a *serious* bounty and paid the developer $1000 dlls when done, if he is a reputed developer and has evidence or prior work, I don't even see why we can't paid upfront either.)
3.- Are you interested in a bounty for fixing the camera code on the existing CM11 rom? What would be the required incentive for it? (can you do it @ggow, @madushan1000?)
We should be able to brainstorm and just think in joining efforts, even if my questions or ideas are the wrong ones, hell! then just tell everyone out loud which idea or process is the right one! Let's work together people!
I just saw 13,000 fire phones sold in Ebay, what the hell?, 1000 fire phone owners that visit XDA can't pledge $1000 dlls?
If this is seriously not doable I will just delete the post right away, but let's at least seek some developers and show them we can organize a good offer, we might find some interesting results.
I will pitch in for an unlock. Not sure of amount until it happens.
The Fire Phones on ebay are still going for over a 100 each. With the new tablets announced today and as people forget the fire phone, the price should drop VERY soon... I hope. I would love to pick up a spare.
Got mine on eBay on $57.50, i hope devs can unlock the bootloader fix the camera and the NFC
Wow, I'm glad to see something like this going on. But I'm afraid I'm not going to be able to do any serious work until next month or so. My final exams coming up. And next I have to find a job.
Anyway, I'm working on a kexec module my spare time, Provided that it works, We can start developing a boodloader unlock. People with already bricked phones might be able to help too by trying to unbrick their phones following something like this http://www.androidbrick.com/ultimate-qualcomm-snapdragon-unbrick-guide-snapdragons-are-unbrickable/ . If someone finds a working method it would help very much for the development.
As per hal issues I proposed to have tow sets of libraries on the rom to bypass the amazon liblog.so issues. May be @ggow is working on it? I don't have to proper knowledge about android build system to do it, or the resources.
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Wow, I'm glad to see something like this going on. But I'm afraid I'm not going to be able to do any serious work until next month or so. My final exams coming up. And next I have to find a job.
Anyway, I'm working on a kexec module my spare time, Provided that it works, We can start developing a boodloader unlock. People with already bricked phones might be able to help too by trying to unbrick their phones following something like this http://www.androidbrick.com/ultimate-qualcomm-snapdragon-unbrick-guide-snapdragons-are-unbrickable/ . If someone finds a working method it would help very much for the development.
As per hal issues I proposed to have tow sets of libraries on the rom to bypass the amazon liblog.so issues. May be @ggow is working on it? I don't have to proper knowledge about android build system to do it, or the resources.
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- Bypassing the liblog issues unfortunately is only one part of the problem - that in itself is tricky to do. A mega amount of changes required to the android stack.
- The camera issues require the HAL source code from Amazon or they need to be written from scratch.
- I am currently looking into what can be done about the camera. I have started looking at the binaries to see if they can be patched.
- I have also been studying the bootloaders, @madushan1000 I'll message you separately when I have a spare moment.
Thanks, I'll try to help you with the hal stuff in the future.
We should see a flood of people joining this forum due the eBay sales. 120 plus a year of prime was what made me buy. I'd pitch in a bit if it were unlocked. After tax and shipping, the phone has only cost me $31. Better than a Windows phone as a spare I would surmise even without seeing my package delivered yet.. Should be here any minute from USPS.
And I'm still driving this to get more people to say I'm up with $XX for the bounty, seriously no one was replied with a quantity WTF?
If anyone is reading this and still doesn't understand, a "bounty" is to get your offering of money for our developers @madushan1000 and @ggow for helping us get our Fire Phones with an unlocked bootloader or with a decent camera on CM11
Example: I'm in with $30 for the bounty
count me on $20 for bootloader unlock
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Also, keep it respectful.
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I needed prime and a phone and made an impulse decision I immediately regretted after I learned there is a locked bootloader. Put me in for 20.
Also, I have a small coffee roasting shop and if either of you devs are coffee drinkers send me a pm me and I'll ship you some good stuff. That's not a bounty, it is an effort to increase productivity.
I'm in for $20 if somebody can handle this. I'd like to have a solid phone to hack on that's not my main.
I pledge 20.00 US dollars to this.
Sent from my Fire Phone using XDA Free mobile app
I'll pledge 100 for an unlock bootloader.
I will throw in $20
I through in 30$ i am looking forward to it ?
I will throw in a new phone with prime and $100.
i will throw in $20 and been waiting for it
I would give another $20. It looks like Amazon has no plans for it. I emailed them a few days ago:
" Hi,
I understand that you want us to provide the steps to Unlock the bootloader for your Fire Phone device.
I'd like to bring to your kind attention that unlocking your phone’s bootloader will cause you to lose all the data from your phone and voids your phone's warranty. That is the reason why currently we don't have plans of releasing a bootloader unlock for the fire phone.
However, I've forwarded your message to our development team for consideration as we make further improvements. Customer feedback like yours is very important in helping us improve the Fire phone experience."
As I was searching the Internet today I came across this! Can anyone verify it??
http://www.usoftsmartphone.com/t410056.html
For some reason I have my doubts about this. Not just that, but there is no link anywhere, just screenshots, which can be easily faked. This kind of thing happens in the gaming console arena all the time. People just do it for attention. Until a recognized developer we KNOW (on here preferrably......hsbadr????) can confirm this, Im going to rule it as fake.
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For some reason I have my doubts about this. Not just that, but there is no link anywhere, just screenshots, which can be easily faked. This kind of thing happens in the gaming console arena all the time. People just do it for attention. Until a recognized developer we KNOW (on here preferrably......hsbadr????) can confirm this, Im going to rule it as fake.
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Although, he has some petty good video of startup, reboot, and maintaining root...as well as showing root checker etc. so time will tell.
The guys a FRAUD. The XDA mods locked down his thread cause he was posting lies about permanent root which he willfully failed to show verity upon request. He is only looking for attention by means of "Thanks." pay him no attention. He's a troll. lol
Farse
This looks like a waste of time...delete.
So there is no reliable system yet to root the Note 4?
They way most of you have been treating and talking about this guy, if I were him and really did have the solution, I'd say "eff ya".
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They way most of you have been treating and talking about this guy, if I were him and really did have the solution, I'd say "eff ya".
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Agreed. I don't understand why everyone is so uppity. What's the harm in just being patient and having a "wait and see" attitude, instead of calling him a fraud and dropping the ban hammer just because he hasn't revealed details yet. Unless we know for certain that he hasn't achieved root, then I don't think we should push him away, even if we don't like his methods. Keep in mind that there is a language barrier here also, so there may be some misunderstanding.
He already said many times he wasn't going to release it. He said it would hurt his business and Samsung would patch it.
Which translates to I've found something that will work on many Samsung devices so if I release it I won't be able to use it to make money in my business, because having a solution for only the Verizon note 4 is not going to do his business much good as he is from outside US.
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Agreed. I don't understand why everyone is so uppity. What's the harm in just being patient and having a "wait and see" attitude, instead of calling him a fraud and dropping the ban hammer just because he hasn't revealed details yet. Unless we know for certain that he hasn't achieved root, then I don't think we should push him away, even if we don't like his methods. Keep in mind that there is a language barrier here also, so there may be some misunderstanding.
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All you have to do is look at his past post. He did the same thing with an LG device. Posting he has achieved root when he had not. When the mods finally asked him to provide proof he declined to answer. When he's been contacted on his site, his number, etc, etc, he declines to answer the question and left the LG community it's in a complete disarray. We don't need people posting root achieved notices just to get their thanks scores higher. The Note 4 community it's has been thru enough already. And if it was going to hurt his business to release the method, then why release I've achieved root. No thanks, the guys a complete fraud.
I can appreciate that reasoning, thanks.
Here a genuine question, not trying to be argumentative:
How is this situation with vnmobile different than the video posted showing the Galaxy S5 bootloader unlock?
http://www.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-s5-bootloader-has-been-unlocked/
It appears that this dev (beaups) does not plan to release his methods either, yet he is not treated with the same disdain as vnmobile. Granted it appears that beaups has earned respect previously, but at the end of the day the same question remains: what is the purpose of sharing the video?
This guy definitely a fraud. His real name is Ngoc Vu and he's running a business selling tech equipments in Vietnam. Let me throw a few things on the table here.
1) Language barrier issue - Nope I speak his language and had visit his website and his facebood page. Just full of shi...
2)Hurt his business if he released the root fix? Another bull sh... 2 ways he could make money. a) release the fix and collect over 20k cash from XDA b) Offer a service to root the phone with a fee. Guess what? none existed.
Summary - he just want to drive traffic to his web site, and make his business more visible to the world specially XDA where everyone interested in cell phone/tablet and electronic equipments. Case closed!
i just saw this post. And i confirmed he is a Vietnamese guys. like me. ^^
But i am so surprise, because he used the Booloader and ROM from "hsbadr" of XDA forum.
- This is the post of HERO "hsbadr" (By hsbadr, Recognized Developer / Recognized Contributor on 13th August 2015, 10:46 PM) : http://forum.xda-developers.com/not...nt/firmware-safe-upgrade-to-lollipop-t3178148
------------------------AND this the post of the guy in Vietnam ^^ (it was 31-10-2015, 06:02 PM ) . in Asia country like Vietnam, the Day is first, then the Month. So his video was Oct 31,2015. After "hsbadr" released his tutorial. ^^ i wish i can upload photo for you guys.
http://vietfones.vn/forum/showthread.php?1047158
This: "N910VVRU2BOG5 - Android 5.0.1 : Fri, 31 Jul 2015" is f-u-c-king fake ^^
Pls Forgive him!!!
Does Anybody using Samsung paid themes for free on their device?
Before purchasing Note 10 plus, I had S10 Plus and I had installed the custom one UI application for using Samsung themes. It was good for paid themes as it used to reset the trial of 10 minutes automatically.
Since I have purchased Note 10 plus the said application has stopped working. It is unable to reset the trial of 10 minutes and now the Samsung paid themes revert back after trial period
Does anyone know how to use Samsung paid themes on note 10 plus for free?
Jmakhdoom said:
Does Anybody using Samsung paid themes for free on their device?
Before purchasing Note 10 plus, I had S10 Plus and I had installed the custom one UI application for using Samsung themes. It was good for paid themes as it used to reset the trial of 10 minutes automatically.
Since I have purchased Note 10 plus the said application has stopped working. It is unable to reset the trial of 10 minutes and now the Samsung paid themes revert back after trial period
Does anyone know how to use Samsung paid themes on note 10 plus for free?
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Read the rules!
https://forum.xda-developers.com/announcement.php?f=263
6. Do not post or request warez.
If a piece of software requires you to pay to use it, then pay for it. We do not accept warez nor do we permit members to request, post, promote or describe ways in which warez, cracks, serial codes or other means of avoiding payment, can be obtained or used. This is a site of developers, i.e. the sort of people who create such software. When you cheat a software developer, you cheat us as a community.
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Hi There I have scoured the XDA forums for up to date information on either the LDU S10 or Note 10 device range. Unfortunately there seems to be very little information on hand, which is unusual considering there are loads of threads about previous Galaxy S series LDUs and retail mode disabling.
If anyone has information about disabling retail mode on the current generation devices, your help is much appreciated.
Note: The password 5444 trick that used to work no longer does, which would allow factory reset and MDM removal. Now I don’t plan on taking a gamble using ODIN to try and flash stock N975F onto my N975X device for fear of bricking. I have successfully flashed S6 devices in the past but I’m a bit more reluctant with the lack of info on hand.
Any help is much appreciated, those of you who might be inclined to post ‘This is a retail device, you shouldn’t have it’ - I would politely state I bought this on ebay as a legitimate listing and would like to use it for Android Studio App development for my final year college project. I have used LDUs in the past as an access point to development on Android as my daily driver is iOS and I wanted to break away from Xcode for a different challenge. I do computer science and have a passion for smartphones so spending 1200€ to do App testing on a Note10 Plus is not an option when I paid similar for my daily driver.
To clarify when I say a ‘legitimate ebay listing’ - if I can purchase on ebay with my own money that is my business and clearly satisfies eBays user agreement. Thanks in advance, all info welcome.
Same here
Hey Stephen, Please let me know if you have any developments with this as I am in the same boat as you
Will do bud ?
Hopefully hear something soon.
JAMOS1 said:
Hey Stephen, Please let me know if you have any developments with this as I am in the same boat as you
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i heard from note9 and below you cannot flash stock firmware or it will brick the phone. but note 10 is okay to flash with stock firmware, but the imei#00000000 which u cannot use it as a normal phone untill you repair the imei.. hope this hellp..
Hi guys, I found in another posts these codes to be used to remove demo mode... any of you has ever tried?
galaxy
ruletheair
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instoredemo
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nationwider
Hi everybody...
It used to be much easier to find the answer to something... but Google is all ads trash now.
I have seen the answers to this question all over the place. Out of days of searching, I have only gotten lots of bad info.
I really just want to know, for sure:
Is there any Samsung Fold 3 sold anywhere in the world, that you can root AND use in the U.S.?
And if so, what is the model?
TiA
It's right here in the forums man...
Link to post on Rooting: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...lash-official-firmware-noob-friendly.4404473/
Models: SM-F926B / SMF926N / SM-F9260
How-To Find: How to find the Model: on your phone → Settings → About Phone → The third row says the Model number and you need to remove the part with the part of /xx, for example, SM-F926B/DS and you only need to type SM-F926B
The U/U1 Models that are sold in the US (Locked/Unlocked) are the ones that cannot be rooted at this time.
EVERY version can run in the US provided it's SIM UNLOCKED and has the right radios, but what I understand is that the 5G radios are the only difference and there are some international models that will work in the US, you just have to look and maybe read more. I have no intention of rooting my Fold 3 at this time, so I have not looked too much into this, but this is just what I found looking here on this forum and even just on the first page.
Thanks. I knew I'd take a little heat. But as you can see, I've been here since 2009... and with a name like AlienPDA... you know what I started on. So I'm not noobing out, I'm just autistic and I like clear answers. Life was easier back then -=)
I am trying to replace a Nexus 6. I haven't found another phone that came close to its specs, (mind you, it's rooted and OC'd to the bleeding edge, 3GHz) in nearly a decade. The screen alone destroys most phones: Resolution, 1440 x 2560 pixels, 16:9 ratio (~493 ppi density), and two VERY CLEAR front-firing speakers.
And now that phones have a silly aspect ratio made for skinny jeans, it looked like I was never going to replace my Nexus.
The fold is the closest a phone has come, and with the Fold 4 coming out, the 3 is in a good price range. But I need root to run a few work programs and provide tether.
> EVERY version can run in the US provided it's SIM UNLOCKED and has the right radios, but what I understand is that the 5G radios are the only difference and there are some international models that will work in the US, you just have to look and maybe read more. I
That part is the part I was referring to in my post. The bands. I've stayed with my carrier all these years, because I have a grandfathered (true) unlimited data plan, and their coverage has the least holes. I know this is because of the bands... and I'd hate to create holes by dropping certain bands.
The nice thing about XDA, we're so big, usually someone has had to have tried XYZ setup.
But I haven't found a post, where someone:
bought a Fold 3, international,
rooted it,
and put it on a U.S. carrier.
So, seemingly, everything stated about the Fold 3, has been hearsay.
Here's an example:
AnnaNguyen said:Thank you William again I just did it and I confirm works on SM-F926U
But... I personally, after reading that, tried the same thing, and it DID NOT work.
So... my option is then to make a new post...
"Samsung Fold 3 SM-F926U not taking root via Magisk"
And then someone will reply... "We already told you that U.S. Fold doesn't take root"
But, but... I mean... it's right there. She said she did it??? Right?
Your reply was, "the info is everywhere, you just need to look..."
Your reply
> The U/U1 Models that are sold in the US (Locked/Unlocked) are the ones that cannot be rooted at this time.
On the first page of the link YOU PROVIDED:
> Thank you William again I just did it and I confirm works on SM-F926U
So...
Do you understand my confusion perhaps?
Apparently either you or Anna are wrong.
But if Anna is wrong, then my question stands.
I'm not dumb, I just cannot make informed decisions on conflicting information.
Totally understand why that might be confusing, but if in doubt look at the thread title.
If the root method included the SM-F926U/U1 model it would have been listed. Since it's not then it is a fair presumption that the model was not included.
As for if the phones will work in the USA will depend on the bands they support. The models SM-F9260/B/N were originally designed and sold with other regions in mind, so they may lack certain bands for use in the USA. You will have to research the bands supported on the 3 models and compare them to the bands your carrier uses.
I know it's not a specific answer to your question but it is a recent experience. A previous phone I had (note 20) was an international model and I can say that it did work, but only in a very generic way. It had limited band support for my carrier so it didn't work that well. Suffice it to say I didn't keep the phone and I returned it. While I had wanted to root the phone in all honesty it would be pointless if I wasn't able to get good performance out of it on the cell network.
> Totally understand why that might be confusing, but if in doubt look at the thread title.
> If the root method included the SM-F926U/U1 model it would have been listed. Since it's not then it is a fair presumption that the model was not included.
Do remember... Talderon's reply to me:
> It's right here in the forums man...
Is it? Is it?
Let's pretend I am an AI... and I am being programmed solely by this fora.
It's a bit more than confusing...
[it is easy, from a human perspective, you're presuming a point of "starting", we all 'started our life on this planet', some X time ago, and have a corpus of knowledge thusly].
But the AI, it's newly born. All the info on here, IS the point of starting.
So, referentially, regardless if the title of that post is limiting the models that it applies to, how do you decide then, that saying it works on "U", isn't NEW information to be added to canon, especially since the author of the thread himself, thanked the person, and didn't correct them.
So IS IT REALLY in the forum, if it's miscible with bad info?
I reread the thread and there really isn't anything in there that debunks it works on "U". Why would the OP thank a person that obviously stated an incompatible model?
I mean, I know personally it doesn't work, now... but if I am being told that the information I seek is on this forum, but the information is bad, how is any of this helpful? I am right back at the question I posed, unanswered unequivocally by the forum.
Keeping this as basic as possible.
1. The SN-F926U/U1 models are not rootable at this time. Anything else said to the contrary should not be believed, debated or given a second thought.
2. It is unknown if a root method for the SN-F926U/U1 will ever be found. If you do not see any threads about work being done on a root method then it means no one is working on one.
3. If and when the SN-F926U/U1 becomes rootable someone will post the method and instructions for use. The thread title will clearly say SN-F926U/U1. Only when you see the threat and flood of people posting about successfully using said method should you consider the information as valid.
4. The international models were built and designed to function and connect to cell networks outside of the USA. The bands they support will vary some depending on the model
5. USA carriers may/might allow a sim/network unlocked international model to connect to the carriers cell network. However it is up to the carrier to determine what services and features are supported.
6. You need to research the cell network bands your carrier uses. Then look up the bands the fold 3 models your thinking of using. Using that information find the model that works on the most number of bands used by your carrier.
7. You can also call your cell carrier, provide the model number(s) your interested in using and ask them is the model supported and what features will or won't work.
8. Because of internatonal carrier and hardware differences you should not expect or have any expectation that an international model will have the same performance level as that of a model designed and sold for use in the USA.
9. If no one has posted the information you seek it means that either of the following is true:
*what your asking doesn't work
*No one has tried what you are asking
*You need to adjust your search terms
1. The SN-F926U/U1 models are not rootable at this time. Anything else said to the contrary should not be believed, debated or given a second thought.
2. It is unknown if a root method for the SN-F926U/U1 will ever be found. If you do not see any threads about work being done on a root method then it means no one is working on one.
3. If and when the SN-F926U/U1 becomes rootable someone will post the method and instructions for use. The thread title will clearly say SN-F926U/U1. Only when you see the threat and flood of people posting about successfully using said method should you consider the information as valid.
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Well... Shouldn't someone maybe then remove the post where someone claims that they successfully rooted the SN-F926U, so people don't buy the SN-F926U thinking it can be rooted?
I kinda feel like this is where the "gap in understanding" is at.
--- I want to do X, can I?
"Just look in the forums your answer is there"
--- Well it says I can do X here.
"That's not right, ignore that... but everything else is accurate"
--- ??????
Mods have the ability to remove incorrect info right?
As a forum of various members from all over we are required too exercise common sense and reasoning when we read the forum and apply the tools, instructions and methods. Even the thread in question indicates one needs a "Galaxy fold 3 and common sense'.
For example if one is not ready to accept the risks and consequences (i.e. Knox being disabled and apps not working because they require Knox) they should not root a device.
Another example is where one post is made where someone says it works on the U model by extension does not make that one post to be true. Especially when you take into consideration other pieces of information like it has been stated numerous times already the U/U1 is not rootable, the thread title not including U/U1, the requirement of the root process listed that OEM unlocking in developer options menu be present (which the U/U1 models do not have), and no other thread exists detailing how/with what (and proof that the method works) to root the SM-F926U/U1.
Also I disagree that an understanding gap exists.. Even with that one post left alone enough content already exists that (and even this thread) will address any further issues about it.
That all being said if you want to discuss it further you should contact the forum moderators via PM.
Ok... For one, you didn't post enough information to answer your question.
There are 2 variants of the Nexus 6, XT1100, and XT1103, and they themselves have different band coverage.
Additionally it would be in your best interest to start with the bands your carrier uses, not what the phone supports. You have a grandfathered plan, there will be bands that will almost certainly be locked out from your plan's coverage. Chances are your Nexus is only using one or two, start with *#*#4636#*#* and see what bands you're currently using, then check if a fold supports it.
Ugh, been sick, so forgot about this thread.
Glad you got some more answers and details.