Smaller storage than announced - Moto Z Play Questions & Answers

Hi there, I just wanted to know why the **** motorola announced that Moto Z Play XT1635-02 would come with 32GB of storage but it just came with 23.85GB, as you can see in the picture I'm not lying, it's just 23.85GB.... is there any way to fix it? Hahahahah I know that I can use a sdcard, but is there any other way?
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Because it does come with 32 GB of built in storage. But if course with nothing that has any storage you wrong ever get the full capacity. In the case of every smartphone and other computer, part of that storage is already occupied by the system and its programs. And the only way to change anything would be to remove the OS but then you just have a useless brick. You should learn stuff like that before asking those questions. Or what do you think where the OS lives?

Artim_96 said:
Because it does come with 32 GB of built in storage. But if course with nothing that has any storage you wrong ever get the full capacity. In the case of every smartphone and other computer, part of that storage is already occupied by the system and its programs. And the only way to change anything would be to remove the OS but then you just have a useless brick. You should learn stuff like that before asking those questions. Or what do you think where the OS lives?
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i just wanted to know why 10gb if the stock rom only have 1.5gb

xdaVTU said:
i just wanted to know why 10gb if the stock rom only have 1.5gb
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The installation file is just 1.5 GB. All inflated, installed and compiled is roughly 10 GB big. But that's not much for an operating system. iOS takes up about the same space, Windows even more. Just think about what needs space. The system partition with all the system apps (Google apps alone are already about 700mb only as apk files. Installed is most likely more), cache partition, bootloader, recovery, kernel, OS and much more. And it most likely includes some extra space that's empty at the moment but part of partitions you can't install apps to to have enough free space for future versions since with about every major update the OS becomes a bit bigger. Otherwise the installation process would need to include some form of dynamic partition size changing like it was included in windows mobile but probably wouldn't be that safe

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The installation file is just 1.5 GB. All inflated, installed and compiled is roughly 10 GB big. But that's not much for an operating system. iOS takes up about the same space, Windows even more. Just think about what needs space. The system partition with all the system apps (Google apps alone are already about 700mb only as apk files. Installed is most likely more), cache partition, bootloader, recovery, kernel, OS and much more. And it most likely includes some extra space that's empty at the moment but part of partitions you can't install apps to to have enough free space for future versions since with about every major update the OS becomes a bit bigger. Otherwise the installation process would need to include some form of dynamic partition size changing like it was included in windows mobile but probably wouldn't be that safe
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Wow very good answer explaining everything. Thanks artim, I've never found something about inflating the system in the internet, thank you for explaining me!

xdaVTU said:
Wow very good answer explaining everything. Thanks artim, I've never found something about inflating the system in the internet, thank you for explaining me!
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I thought that's logic... Sure, they could ship it as a 10 GB image, but not everywhere you have fast unlimited internet speed. That's why even Microsoft leaned to make Delta updates for the big upgrades that only contain stuff that changed. That's why OTAs are mostly under a GB with the security patches taking only a few dozen MB

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[Q] Which ROM is the best for me? See in topic.

I would like to root my phone, but I wanna first choose a ROM that I want to take. But I don't know which one, here are my requirements:
- New Sense ( I thought from HTC HD )
- App2SD
- Stable ( without any freezes! )
- Using setcpu set the ( when screen off ) in battery save option.
- No more ext partitions ( I've created one using a guide with 512 MB and 0MB swap, I don't know what ext partiton it is. )
- a working www.htcsense.com
- Less bugs!
- Not overclocked.
Does anybody know a ROM with this?
Take iNsertCoin
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=861690
Fast, stable, designed for using, not for benchmarking
Fits all the points you mentioned.
Seriously, in development? Wrong board mate.
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If I install this one, how much free space will I have in internal memory? FOUND ALREADY 133 MB ( is this alright? )
How do look the notification area?
( image please )
Will the apps which I install be automatical set to SD card?
Marc. said:
If I install this one, how much free space will I have in internal memory? FOUND ALREADY 133 MB ( is this alright? )
How do look the notification area?
( image please )
Will the apps which I install be automatical set to SD card?
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You have the thread to InsertCoinHD 1.9.5 Here!
There you will also find dome screenshots! If you want a power widget you can flash that after you have flashed this rom, and also cook the notification icons, power widget to whatever at UOT
You need to have a ext partition (and you said you have 512 MB), and then the apps will be on the SD automatically
This is the rom I am using right now, and it works perfect!
Ok, but how looks the notifications area? I can't find a picture of that part.
It looks like this.
http://img823.imageshack.us/i/snap20110301154428.png/
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Marc. said:
Ok, but how looks the notifications area? I can't find a picture of that part.
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This is how my looks but I have cooked the power widget & the battery% at UOT, the rest looks at it would on the original rom.
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I was to slow, but now you can see how you can modify the battery and power widget!
Ok, that look cool! One last question: is the battery life improved? And how many internal free space do you have with this Rom with 1 ext partition? ( 512 MB)
Battery life is good, depends on kernel, radio, usage.
I can get 30+ hours out of the phone with medium usage. Up to three days, when it's lightly used.
I have 1Gb EXT4 partiton, and currently 623 MB is free.
And what will it be with a normal ext partition with 512 MB?
Normal EXT partiton? EXT4 is normal, too You mean EXT3 then. Depends on what you install. ROM should be taking up a few megabytes for apps and 35-40MB dor the Dalvik-Cache after install.
I thought it was a ext2 partition...
Ext2 is not really supported by those A2SD+ scripts. 3/4 recommended.
Ok, still one question. When I make a nandroid backup, will then be all my settings, apps and everything will be backed up? And too my stock ROM? So when I'll flash insertcoin and want to go back restore with nandroid is enough to go back to stock ROM? With my settings, apps and everything?
Nandroid backs up everything, yes.
So then i don't need to backup everything using titanium backup?
If you don't want to restore them in your ROM you want to flash then no.
Nandroid writes the whole ROM into images.
TI Backup only the apps and settings - so you can restore them in other ROMs.

[Q] Internal memory full

Hello everyone.
I'm running Oxygen 2.0.1 with A2SD enabled.
My internal memeory seems to be almost completely full though i have nothing installed in it.
I cleared the cache a look through almost all my apps, but i really can't figure out why i have no space left.
Usually i have more than 100MB free space even with many more applications installed, so something must be using all my internal mem.
Do i have to clean my internal memory each time i flash a new ROM or something like that?
When you flash a new rom you do a factory reset and clear dalvik cache. As for your memory being almost full, depending on how the a2sd script works and what it puts onto the SD card, data can still install to internal memory. Like the dalvik cache. If you can, use a file manager to see what is using memory.
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could you please tell me how i use a file manager to check what's using my memory?
lll
Use root explorer. It will show the space available on each nand partition.
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Use root explorer. It will show the space available on each nand partition.
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Okay thank you all guys.
I bought root explorer and look around a bit, and ofcause i came across the dalvik-cache.
The Dalvik-cache is nothing less than 85mb, which is pretty huge right?
is there any way i can shrink the case/is it possible that the cache contains information from my old rom, which does nothing else than using the space?
You could wipe it through recovery then reboot and see what it looks like then..
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Yea thank you.
That's probably what i'm gonna do
Acer has a fix for the memory issue
DOWNLOAD FOR FIX
This isthe download for the gps files filling the memory on your tablet.
Simple directions.
igwtapc said:
DOWNLOAD FOR FIX
This isthe download for the gps files filling the memory on your tablet.
Simple directions.
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Cool, only 2 years late..
RSK Sattelite SuperSense4.1
igwtapc said:
DOWNLOAD FOR FIX
This isthe download for the gps files filling the memory on your tablet.
Simple directions.
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I have a problem similar to this, but I had installed Intercepter-NG, and forgot to tell the program to use my SD card, and it filled up the internal memory with logs.
Now I can't get to the logs, because I have lost my USB cable.
Is there a free program for the Galaxy Y S5360 that will let me look in Internal Memory and delete the logs??
unclechicken said:
I have a problem similar to this, but I had installed Intercepter-NG, and forgot to tell the program to use my SD card, and it filled up the internal memory with logs.
Now I can't get to the logs, because I have lost my USB cable.
Is there a free program for the Galaxy Y S5360 that will let me look in Internal Memory and delete the logs??
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You don't need your usb cable to browse your own phone
There are many free programs, search the play store for a file manager...
Uninstall some apps if you need to make space
Or...is there an option within this interceptor app to delete the logs directly?

HTC HD2 512 running out of space?

using HTC HD2 512MB version, with MIUI.COM installed into the NAND
Questions:
1) I went to setting, and check the disk space free for the phone, adding up the disk space used, and free space, I only have 250MB in my phone? Why? How do I see 512MB in my phone?
2) How do I make the SD card the place to install all applications? like making it default?
3) When an application has been installed onto the phone; it says "30MB on Phone" and I hit the button "move to SD", and after moving, it says "140kb on SD" - what happen? Does it mean that it couldn't move the application from phone to SD? Or file size reported incorrectly?
s050399b said:
using HTC HD2 512MB version, with MIUI.COM installed into the NAND
Questions:
1) I went to setting, and check the disk space free for the phone, adding up the disk space used, and free space, I only have 250MB in my phone? Why? How do I see 512MB in my phone?
2) How do I make the SD card the place to install all applications? like making it default?
3) When an application has been installed onto the phone; it says "30MB on Phone" and I hit the button "move to SD", and after moving, it says "140kb on SD" - what happen? Does it mean that it couldn't move the application from phone to SD? Or file size reported incorrectly?
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Wrong Thread. You have to post your question in here:
HD2 Android Q&A and General
1)And also this is a stupid question!
If you flash a Rom in NAND then your free memory will not be 512MB because the Rom you flashed takes up your NAND space to start the system and start working! Logically!!!!!
2) If the Rom supports a2sd or data2ext then you can install several apps in SD card to save space.
3)Another stupid question. Well this is Normal.
There are several applications that can move to SD to save some Internal memory. Not all applications can move there though because you may corrupt them e.t.c.
misunderstanding of question (1)
my phone should have 512mb in there; after installing MIUI + apps to the NAND; a quick calculation total (used + free = 250MB only!)
what happen to the rest? (512mb - 250mb = 262Mb)
Download Titanium Backup from Market press on Overview and you will see your 512Mb space along with Free space and such!
okay, let me try
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please bang your head in the wall and search google, this ain't your personal forums for finding if your phone is defective or not.
as for your case, your phone is normal, please keep in mind, hd2 is not native android phone, we are still running on the os.nb partition on windows phone (atleast on clk, dunno abt magldr as its closed source)and within that partition, we have other partitions for kernel, recovery, settings and cache.
so please stop posting such idiotic questions. and just try to think or atleast google before wasting our time and getting flamed upon by some stranger.
i know that google is our friend; but for a person who follows the miui tutorial to flash the rom into the device,
how could we have known what is going on? and what search terms to search?
FYI, I've tried searching for someone who has asked the same questions in xda, but couldn't find it,
s050399b said:
i know that google is our friend; but for a person who follows the miui tutorial to flash the rom into the device,
how could we have known what is going on? and what search terms to search?
FYI, I've tried searching for someone who has asked the same questions in xda, but couldn't find it,
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Seeing that you already know a few of forum rules, that makes you look even more idiotic having posted a question in development section. I wonder if the mods were just playing around while they created the Q&A section.
+1
IMO.. THREAD CLOSED! LOL!

Available internal storage on SM-G532M

Good evening
My aunt has a Galaxy J2 Prime SM-G532M. This phone has 8 GB of internal storage. Here I show a few screenshots with the phone status.
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Unfortunately, the phone barely has free space, the strangest thing is that the available space even after deleting all the deletable apps, deleting cache, and running the DELETE DUMPSTATE/LOGCAT thing, is a bit less of 1 GB. Here I show some screenshots of how the space has been used, note that currently there are only 23,3 MB of free space
I even tried a hard reset, thinking that it would delete some unwanted and hidden files, but it didn't help.
Is there any problem with this phone? or does it really have so little available internal space? I know that this phone has an SD card inserted, but this little space available doesn't even allow to update the apps.
Thanks
wissaib said:
Good evening
My aunt has a Galaxy J2 Prime SM-G532M. This phone has 8 GB of internal storage. Here I show a few screenshots with the phone status.
Unfortunately, the phone barely has free space, the strangest thing is that the available space even after deleting all the deletable apps, deleting cache, and running the DELETE DUMPSTATE/LOGCAT thing, is a bit less of 1 GB. Here I show some screenshots of how the space has been used, note that currently there are only 23,3 MB of free space
I even tried a hard reset, thinking that it would delete some unwanted and hidden files, but it didn't help.
Is there any problem with this phone? or does it really have so little available internal space? I know that this phone has an SD card inserted, but this little space available doesn't even allow to update the apps.
Thanks
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Yes, this phone has very little space available, the OS takes more than half of those 8 GB this phone claims to have.
You can set up the SD as adoptable storage via rooting (with an app called Rooting Essentials) and it does help a little bit, but don't expect it to help you install too many apps because not all apps can be moved to adoptable storage.
ShaDisNX255 said:
Yes, this phone has very little space available, the OS takes more than half of those 8 GB this phone claims to have.
You can set up the SD as adoptable storage via rooting (with an app called Rooting Essentials) and it does help a little bit, but don't expect it to help you install too many apps because not all apps can be moved to adoptable storage.
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I spent more than 2 days to root this phone (g532F nothing different), well I would say it is almost impossible. Since now I've learned that latest official OS can't be rooted, it requires samsung tools pro at least V27.4 which is impossible to find the functional one (you know what I mean).. I tried everything else it either get in bootloop or freeze anyway. Well I used couple of android devices with root but this one made me really pissed off.
All we need to do is rooting the device and making available adoptable storage, that's all. But it is not that easy.. For this phone really I would say go to hell samsung..
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I spent more than 2 days to root this phone (g532F nothing different), well I would say it is almost impossible. Since now I've learned that latest official OS can't be rooted, it requires samsung tools pro at least V27.4 which is impossible to find the functional one (you know what I mean).. I tried everything else it either get in bootloop or freeze anyway. Well I used couple of android devices with root but this one made me really pissed off.
All we need to do is rooting the device and making available adoptable storage, that's all. But it is not that easy.. For this phone really I would say go to hell samsung..
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This device was rooted some time ago, so not sure what you mean it can't be rooted?
you must root your phone and debloat it.

OnePlus 7T System partition size

Hi my friend is having various issues with his 7T I am able to help him, but as the title suggests, what is the system partition size? For him when he factory reset the system is showing its taking 30gb from his 128gb. As I have the 7 Pro and not the 7T I don't know if this is normal?
Any help is appreciated, just to answer the above .........:good:
27gigs for me so we can say it is normal. But i don't think they should need that much tbh :/
Mine is 27GB as well, seems very high indeed.
Now it's 28GB
Excuse me wtf
because oneplus 7t has a recovery partition so you can avoid problems
morgan7676 said:
because oneplus 7t has a recovery partition so you can avoid problems
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So has just about every other Android phone since Android 7
Peketr said:
Now it's 28GB
Excuse me wtf
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exactly !
System OTA zip is 2.5 GB. So are there over 10 Copies of old Systems ?!
(And LOS Androids are around 400-800 MB).
So it's just crazy.
Not that I'm running out of storage soon, but that's just about the principle.
I wont accept that some Android OS reserves 28GB for itself.
I can have dual boot Windows and Linux on my computer on that storage space ...
I found another first thread, where I posted/ranted about that, too
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-7t/help/storage-t3984073
Conkerts said:
exactly !
System OTA zip is 2.5 GB. So are there over 10 Copies of old Systems ?!
(And LOS Androids are around 400-800 MB).
So it's just crazy.
Not that I'm running out of storage soon, but that's just about the principle.
I wont accept that some Android OS reserves 28GB for itself.
I can have dual boot Windows and Linux on my computer on that storage space ...
I found another first thread, where I posted/ranted about that, too
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-7t/help/storage-t3984073
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Just delete your system partition then, you don't need it.
thedrizzle said:
Just delete your system partition then, you don't need it.
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(in case the image doesn't show up https://en.meming.world/wiki/File:My_Goodness_What_an_Idea.jpg )
I should do this https://giphy.com/gifs/the-simpsons-hank-scorpio-zqhZB6bo5FgoE
But ranting and joking aside, this 28GB System partition provides really ZERO additional value compared to my previous 10GB System partition on the OP6.
So I hope there will be a way to shrink that to some sensible size ...
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But ranting and joking aside, this 28GB System partition provides really ZERO additional value compared to my previous 10GB System partition on the OP6.
So I hope there will be a way to shrink that to some sensible size ...
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Looking at my storage, the system partition is 26GB but the actual used space is a small amount of that ~8GB or so. It's mostly empty. Odd.
My guess is it is so big to allow the update to be unzipped and flashed even if you have the phone full otherwise. Remember iPhones used to not update due to not enough space to unzip the update file.
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My guess is it is so big to allow the update to be unzipped and flashed even if you have the phone full otherwise. Remember iPhones used to not update due to not enough space to unzip the update file.
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If this is the reason I'd be amazed - they'd be fixing a problem that isn't widespread.
The Op7t has no real system partition. It's so "big" in theory because it's thats maximum space that can be allocated within the super lun0 partition (super partition contains system, vendor, odm and product partitions).
See details over here : https://source.android.com/devices/tech/ota/dynamic_partitions/implement
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The Op7t has no real system partition. It's so "big" in theory because it's thats maximum space that can be allocated within the super lun0 partition (super partition contains system, vendor, odm and product partitions).
See details over here : https://source.android.com/devices/tech/ota/dynamic_partitions/implement
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That makes sense. However is this super partition fixed size or itself is dynamic? If it is fixed then oneplus is definitely over-allocated it, thus wasting space.

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