I'm getting ready to install the January update with magisk. I have been using the stock kernel all along. Was wondering if you guys had sounds better performance and or battery life with any one of these custom kernels. I don't care really about features, just performance and stability.
What would you recommend?
I've subscribed as I'm about to try the Flash kernel. I will be curious to see what others say.
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Cowbell_Guy said:
I'm getting ready to install the January update with magisk. I have been using the stock kernel all along. Was wondering if you guys had sounds better performance and or battery life with any one of these custom kernels. I don't care really about features, just performance and stability. What would you recommend?
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If you're only in it for performance and stability then you should probably just stay on the stock kernel. Most kernel devs readily admit the kernel is exceedingly efficient and they can only make tiny incremental improvements in battery life. That and any Google security fixes are built into the stock kernel so you will have them right away. Custom kernels are regularly updated to include the security fixes that come in the stock kernel. What a custom kernel will give you is much more control over many aspects such as color control, battery monitoring, gesture control, vibration, etc. I've been using EX Kernel with the additional Kernel Manager (EXKM) and couldn't be happier with the results, and continual dev support on the last 4 devices I've owned. The kernel resides in boot.img so you already have modified that if you are running Magisk so it's easy to revert. To remove the kernel, simply reflash the stock boot.img and it will be gone.
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Is it necessary to flash a Kernal after flashing a custom rom ?
I am thinking of flashing CM 9 or Liquid Rom. Which is the best kernal to flash with them.
-The correct spelling is kernel.
-It is not necessary to flash a new kernel with a rom. In general roms will package the stock kernel unless they note otherwise.
-I am personally a fan of leankernel because of the mission statement behind its development and the accessibility and speed of its update cycle.
Nope. Custom roms have kernels included, so you are not required to download a separate kernel. However, some kernels run better (ie, more fluid, less heat, reboots, etc) than others on the same device. It all depends on the silicon in your phone. If you plan to run cm9, I recommend sticking with the default kernel. If you're going with Liquid, use imoseyon's leankernel (the default) or franco kernels.
Edit: BTW, I highly recommend franco's kernel app, especially if you are new to the scene. It can download & install either franco or imoseyon kernels, making kernel flashing stupid easy. It also lets you overclock & undervolt, change governors and tweak color settings. And it is the easiest way to keep up with nightly/experimental builds. Not to mention it shows your support and encourages more development.
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i say try them all, but for cm9 i recommend fugumod.
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Thanks you all for your suggestions ...
finally going to try Liquid Smooth 1.25 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1555667)
along with Franco.Kernel (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1367341)
...... One last question Which Franco Kernel to flash there are Milestone 2, Milestone 1, Nightly ??? Whats the difference between them ?
Also when installing extras for liquid smooth do i need to wipe everything again .. I am new to this flashing stuff
and does Liquid Smooth comes with a kernel if so which one ?
Latest milestone is the most stable. Nightlies are experimental. And no need to wipe.
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@cldwar
Liquid + franco is a great choice. Liquid is an extremely polished rom. Very, very smooth with absolutely ZERO lag (it is called Liquid Smooth for a reason) and lots of customization & tweaking options. franco kernel pushes the smoothness to another level. Liquid & franco are both awesome devs who have been tinkering with android for a long time, and they both know their stuff.
Liquid comes with imoseyon's leankernel, which is a solid kernel (obviously, or Liquid wouldn't have included it in the rom). imoseyon is another well-known & respected dev that churns kernels at a dizzying rate. He must develop in his sleep. A lot of people prefer his leankernel, and you really can't go wrong with it. But like I said before, it really depends on your device. Your phone picks the kernel, not you. Milestones are the most stable versions. Nightlies are bleeding edge experimentals with the latest patches & tweaks that may or may not improve battery or performance. Since you are new to flashing, you might want to go with milestone 2 for a few days and see how it feels. On the other hand, you could jump in balls deep and go with the latest nightly/experimental
And you don't need to wipe anything before flashing the extras package.
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@cldwar
Liquid + franco is a great choice. Liquid is an extremely polished rom. Very, very smooth with absolutely ZERO lag (it is called Liquid Smooth for a reason) and lots of customization & tweaking options. franco kernel pushes the smoothness to another level. Liquid & franco are both awesome devs who have been tinkering with android for a long time, and they both know their stuff.
Liquid comes with imoseyon's leankernel, which is a solid kernel (obviously, or Liquid wouldn't have included it in the rom). imoseyon is another well-known & respected dev that churns kernels at a dizzying rate. He must develop in his sleep. A lot of people prefer his leankernel, and you really can't go wrong with it. But like I said before, it really depends on your device. Your phone picks the kernel, not you. Milestones are the most stable versions. Nightlies are bleeding edge experimentals with the latest patches & tweaks that may or may not improve battery or performance. Since you are new to flashing, you might want to go with milestone 2 for a few days and see how it feels. On the other hand, you could jump in balls deep and go with the latest nightly/experimental
And you don't need to wipe anything before flashing the extras package.
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thanks .... extremely useful info
Just flashed Liquid with Franco kernel ... Wifi Sucks otherwise cool rom. Is there a way to flash stock 4.0.4 Rom ??
I cant find stock 4.0.4 to flash
cldwar said:
Just flashed Liquid with Franco kernel ... Wifi Sucks otherwise cool rom. Is there a way to flash stock 4.0.4 Rom ??
I cant find stock 4.0.4 to flash
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If you have fastboot set up, grab official images from google and flash them.
bk201doesntexist said:
If you have fastboot set up, grab official images from google and flash them.
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those images are for Yakju ..... mine is Yakjujp ... I think i cant flash them .. any other solution ??
cldwar said:
those images are for Yakju ..... mine is Yakjujp ... I think i cant flash them .. any other solution ??
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doesn't matter,
infact if you flash yakju then you will get OTA as well. if you are in japan you can flash a japan radio on top of the rom.
Rcommander said:
doesn't matter,
infact if you flash yakju then you will get OTA as well. if you are in japan you can flash a japan radio on top of the rom.
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Don't I need to get the boot loader etc back to orignal in order to receive the updates ... ? If so how ?
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Kernal?
I have been researching the many different kernels out there all day. I have been running GummyNex ROM's since I rooted my GNex. I really do like the options he has. I forget which version, but the battery life was amazing (which included the baked in kernel). I flashed to .0.9 and recently 4.0.4 1.0.1 and the battery life is like a V-12 Lamborghini. I just flashed a Franco Kernal and am hoping this fixes my battery drain issues.
Something has to give......
falconfan said:
I have been researching the many different kernels out there all day. I have been running GummyNex ROM's since I rooted my GNex. I really do like the options he has. I forget which version, but the battery life was amazing (which included the baked in kernel). I flashed to .0.9 and recently 4.0.4 1.0.1 and the battery life is like a V-12 Lamborghini. I just flashed a Franco Kernal and am hoping this fixes my battery drain issues.
Something has to give......
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Use liquid rom with Franco milestone built ... gave me a 4+ hour screen time. Don't know why but the nightly version reduces battery life
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I'm running Liquid 1.3 and am using Franco nightly #143 and, so far, my battery life is really great. I was at 89% after 2 hours. I also want to try Milestone 3, that just came out yesterday and see how it performs.
Just update to Takju 4.2.2 with the stock kernel. Functions are limited with the stock kernel. Any recommedations of which custom kernels that are battery friendly, overclocking possiblility and/or better wifi reception?
fieldside said:
Just update to Takju 4.2.2 with the stock kernel. Functions are limited with the stock kernel. Any recommedations of which custom kernels that are battery friendly, overclocking possiblility and/or better wifi reception?
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ak kernal, fraco is also a great option, but i personally prefer ak.
leanKernel
Just flashed stock 4.2.2 and flahsed franco r365. Seems that the battery is better than before. I will report in the next days.
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All kernels aim to give better battery life while not sacrificing too much performance.
Kernels need a little while to settle down so try one out and give it a day before passing judgment and if it doesn't give desired results for your rom and device then try another.
AK Kernel 4.2.2
fieldside said:
Just update to Takju 4.2.2 with the stock kernel. Functions are limited with the stock kernel. Any recommedations of which custom kernels that are battery friendly, overclocking possiblility and/or better wifi reception?
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I've had a ton of success with AK kernels. Morfic and LeanKernel too, but lately the AK ones seem the best for me. I run a custom ROM tho, and I've seen that a lot of folks really like Morfic on stock 4.2.2.
If you're on VZW or Sprint, you may have to flash the GPU binaries to be able to install a true 4.2.2 kernel, otherwise you're phone wont boot and you'll have to reflash a 4.2.1 kernel to get back up and running.
I know Tiny (he's got a great kernel too) posted this flashable binary, in case this helps. Here's the post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=38034158&postcount=22
Hi, I am looking for a ROM that is stable and faster than stock. What ROM would be the best for this? I haven't really tried ROMs since I last put Cyanogenmod on my CDMA HTC Hero, so I don't have the best idea of what's out there and what works. I also searched "performance ROM" just to make sure this hadn't been asked recently.
I'm running TWRP and the latest SuperSU, if that matters.
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Hi, I am looking for a ROM that is stable and faster than stock. What ROM would be the best for this? I haven't really tried ROMs since I last put Cyanogenmod on my CDMA HTC Hero, so I don't have the best idea of what's out there and what works. I also searched "performance ROM" just to make sure this hadn't been asked recently.
I'm running TWRP and the latest SuperSU, if that matters.
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There won't be a faster Rom. What you can try is flash a kernel that supports overclocking. Although, imho, you won't be blown away by the increased performance, it's all marginal.
Stock Rom is already very fast. Other Roms will also be very fast. It's usually a matter of options that the custom Roms offer. You can tweak more. But will they have a noticeable performance improvement, I think not. YMMV obviously
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There won't be a faster Rom. What you can try is flash a kernel that supports overclocking. Although, imho, you won't be blown away by the increased performance, it's all marginal.
Stock Rom is already very fast. Other Roms will also be very fast. It's usually a matter of options that the custom Roms offer. You can tweak more. But will they have a noticeable performance improvement, I think not. YMMV obviously
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Ah, thank you. I had such a massive performance jump from 1.6 to 2.2 and then 2.2 to 2.3 Cyanogenmod on my Hero that I thought I might get something similar out of a custom ROM again.
archer007 said:
Ah, thank you. I had such a massive performance jump from 1.6 to 2.2 and then 2.2 to 2.3 Cyanogenmod on my Hero that I thought I might get something similar out of a custom ROM again.
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Simply make a Nandroid of your current Rom and experiment like crazy
If you find a custom Rom that blows you away: keep using it. If you don't find any advantages or worse: restore Nandroid :good:
Custom ROM makes only sense if you want special functions / features of a specific ROM.
Many special features can also be activated in stock ROM by apps like Xposed, GMD apps etc.
So most probably a custom ROM is unnecessary. Just look for a good kernel (Franco, Elementalx, Faux...) if you want added performance, battery life or filesystem support.
Hi all, today I unlocked boot loader and rooted my nexus 7 2013 WiFi. At the moment I am sticking to stock ROM until I get more internet data from my ISP then I can flash a custom ROM.
Anyway what kernel would you recommended for stock KitKat 4.4.2 ROM in the mean time, or is it not worth changing and I'm better just waiting to flash custom ROM+kernel?
I was hoping for a more performance based one and would like to overclock both CPU and GPU, of course performance+battery contradict each other but if I could also have good-very good battery life and faster performance then even better.
Also what apps are you using for over clocking CPU/GPU?
Please suggest thanks
Ned_Flanders said:
Hi all, today I unlocked boot loader and rooted my nexus 7 2013 WiFi. At the moment I am sticking to stock ROM until I get more internet data from my ISP then I can flash a custom ROM.
Anyway what kernel would you recommended for stock KitKat 4.4.2 ROM in the mean time, or is it not worth changing and I'm better just waiting to flash custom ROM+kernel?
I was hoping for a more performance based one and would like to overclock both CPU and GPU, of course performance+battery contradict each other but if I could also have good-very good battery life and faster performance then even better.
Also what apps are you using for over clocking CPU/GPU?
Please suggest thanks
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Best ROM/kernel threads are frowned upon at XDA.
As far as overclocking app, I use Tasker. I use it for setting the kernel tunables also.
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I use elementalx with stock. Great performance and battery life.
I am coming from the Note 2 and on that phone I used RWilcos Mostly Stock ROM which is basically just the stock ROM with small tweaks, root, bloatware removed etc.
It did not have any bugs that effected the functionality which I've seen with other ROMs (CM etc).
Does anyone have a recommendation for a 100% functional stable ROM almost that won't remove all the great Note features but still have the added features and performance, battery life , root etc of the custom ROMs?
Thanks for any help.
frankx85 said:
I am coming from the Note 2 and on that phone I used RWilcos Mostly Stock ROM which is basically just the stock ROM with small tweaks, root, bloatware removed etc.
It did not have any bugs that effected the functionality which I've seen with other ROMs (CM etc).
Does anyone have a recommendation for a 100% functional stable ROM almost that won't remove all the great Note features but still have the added features and performance, battery life , root etc of the custom ROMs?
Thanks for any help.
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First of all, is the phone new and already updated to stock 5.1.1?
If so you have a locked bootloader (but still have options) .
If you have 5.0.1 or older version your in luck.
Go here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2956667
Best of the best by @tx_dbs_tx.
CM and ports require more attention whether it be developer, user or both.
Stock-like TW narrows it down for you. IMO, the two most active and capable developers in TW for Sprint Note 4 are tx_dbs_tx and freeza. They both have released very stock and also modified ROMs. Then there's OBAR that got a lot testing and users as well to make sure the bugs were squashed; still has support and also user community support.
If you don't want to get into kernel tweaking but want something with default and optimization out of the box- better than stock, consider freeza's Beastmode kernel or the newer Rage kernel that is integrated in Note 4our ROM (Don't be put off by the beta; it's stable but more customization is expected). Otherwise, take your pick and run the included kernel or choose another custom Android 5.1.1 kernel like AEL or Emotion for Sprint Note 4.
Personally, I prefer freeza's kernel. I've posted some battery stats in freeza's Beastmode kernel and Note 4our ROM threads.
I couldn't narrow it any further than this. You'd have to decide yourself or try as many as you like to make a definitive decision. Lots of choices and opinions vary; that's a good thing.
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jhill110 said:
First of all, is the phone new and already updated to stock 5.1.1?
If so you have a locked bootloader (but still have options) .
If you have 5.0.1 or older version your in luck.
Go here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2956667
Best of the best by @tx_dbs_tx.
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Yes it's new and running 5.1 already.
samep said:
Personally, I prefer freeza's kernel. I've posted some battery stats in freeza's Beastmode kernel and Note 4our ROM threads.
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Which one of freeza's kernels gives better battery? Have you compared them to AEL? I'm using AEL 6.2,and while it has decent battery, it lags a bit.
beezar said:
Which one of freeza's kernels gives better battery? Have you compared them to AEL? I'm using AEL 6.2,and while it has decent battery, it lags a bit.
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IMO, they're equal on battery.
Rage may be slightly better on multitasking but there's extra scripts in play with the integrated ROM.
No lag but I've ran freeza kernels since Beastmode because they're close to stock with no setup to tweak.
Prior to that, I preferred stock kernel but thanks to Samsung, can't run it with root anymore. No recent compare to AEL or Emotion.
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