Hello XDA, I am new to Android world since two days ago with my new OnePlus 5t.
I was an iPhone user ever since, but i sold my iPhone 6 because I needed a newer phone with bigger screen and utilities!
I can't afford high Apple prices of iPhone X so here I am in the Android community with my new 5T!
I set up my new phone, I installed Nova Launcher and I think I am good with the settings I've decided to use. However I am still exploring Android world and I am searching for apps and modifications I could use and could help me.
So, can you suggest some must have apps or modifications and moves that someone is good to do in the Android and especially on OnePlus 5T that I might not know?
And for the end, I bought the Karbon Case with the glass protector. Should I remove and change the pre installed glass that OnePlus have or should I keep the pre installed glass until is full of scratches and I can't use it anymore and then install the one I bought?
I hear some people say that with the pre installed glass on I "loose" a lot of the screen quality and have more fingerprints on my screen. Is that true? And is the original protector better than this?
I've written an article here, sorry for the big amount of questions, but I am new to this and I would love a little help!
Have a good day and a happy new year!
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I'll reply about software mods. I will ignore Root & custom recovery as you are new to android & FREEDOM. Consider Root etc as advanced. Aftewer reading tutorials you can decise next move.
1st - review Nova Launcher. Consider installing it, consider buying pro version.
What is Nova: an app which displays your home screen & app drawer (where all your app icons exist). It is highly customisable & extends your android experience.
2nd - Custom icon packs & themes
What they are: android lets you change app icons, made much easier by using Nova launcher. There are free & paid icon packs in Play Sore. They can be changed system wide.
Themes
hmm you may need to Root to get full themes...read up on substratum and OOS, see what you learn. YOu can change the look of EVERYTHING with substratum.
tweeny80 said:
I'll reply about software mods. I will ignore Root & custom recovery as you are new to android & FREEDOM. Consider Root etc as advanced. Aftewer reading tutorials you can decise next move.
1st - review Nova Launcher. Consider installing it, consider buying pro version.
What is Nova: an app which displays your home screen & app drawer (where all your app icons exist). It is highly customisable & extends your android experience.
2nd - Custom icon packs & themes
What they are: android lets you change app icons, made much easier by using Nova launcher. There are free & paid icon packs in Play Sore. They can be changed system wide.
Themes
hmm you may need to Root to get full themes...read up on substratum and OOS, see what you learn. YOu can change the look of EVERYTHING with substratum.
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Thank you a lot for the reply!
I surely not thinking about rooting for the time being until I learn a lot more about the phone and Android. In addition to that many users say that rooting in this device with this software is kind of unnecessary and it has only a small impact and amount of stuff to offer! Is this nevertheless true?
I 've already bought Nova Launcher and it's incredible program with a lot of features!
I'll search for icon packs in Play Store!
What's different with a theme except wallpaper and icons?
Is there any other program or tool except look customization that it might be useful?
Thank you again !
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You can do quite some stuff with your device if you root it. But, you can do a lot without root as well...
If you do decide to root, remember that you're going to have to unlock the bootloader (there are guides all over xda and it's not difficult) and that will wipe your device. ALWAYS keep a backup of important files...
There are currently two major ways to go if you want to root: Magisk or SuperSU.
Unfortunately, SuperSU has been sold to a company that seems to really have dropped the ball and are losing a lot of the trust that @Chainfire built up over the years. It's also closed source, something that can be considered an issue with this kind of software.
Magisk is open source and very actively maintained and developed. That does sometimes cause some instabilities and there's currently some issues with OnePlus Oreo releases and Magisk v15.1. As long as you do your homework before flashing anything you should be good though.
And, ALWAYS keep a backup of important files.
Once rooted there are two fun things for modifying your device: Magisk and Xposed.
Magisk can inject modified files into your system without actually touching the system files. This is useful if you want to keep your device untouched so that you can update it with OTA updates. It also helps with hiding root and some modifications from apps and services that don't work on rooted devices (i.e. banking apps, SafetyNet, etc).
Xposed injects code into your system and alters how apps work in major ways. This can be made systemless as well with the help of Magisk by installing Xposed as a Magisk module. With Xposed there's hardly any restrictions on what kind of modifications can be done... In theory. Not currently available on Android Oreo, but from what it sounds like, it's not that far away. Xposed is one of those mods that are really hard to hide, so if you need to use something like SafetyNet, systemless is the way to go since you then can disable and enable it when needed.
There's a lot to read, so (again) make sure you do your homework before doing anything.
And, ALWAYS keep a backup of important files.
Didgeridoohan said:
You can do quite some stuff with your device if you root it. But, you can do a lot without root as well...
If you do decide to root, remember that you're going to have to unlock the bootloader (there are guides all over xda and it's not difficult) and that will wipe your device. ALWAYS keep a backup of important files...
There are currently two major ways to go if you want to root: Magisk or SuperSU.
Unfortunately, SuperSU has been sold to a company that seems to really have dropped the ball and are losing a lot of the trust that @Chainfire built up over the years. It's also closed source, something that can be considered an issue with this kind of software.
Magisk is open source and very actively maintained and developed. That does sometimes cause some instabilities and there's currently some issues with OnePlus Oreo releases and Magisk v15.1. As long as you do your homework before flashing anything you should be good though.
And, ALWAYS keep a backup of important files.
Once rooted there are two fun things for modifying your device: Magisk and Xposed.
Magisk can inject modified files into your system without actually touching the system files. This is useful if you want to keep your device untouched so that you can update it with OTA updates. It also helps with hiding root and some modifications from apps and services that don't work on rooted devices (i.e. banking apps, SafetyNet, etc).
Xposed injects code into your system and alters how apps work in major ways. This can be made systemless as well with the help of Magisk by installing Xposed as a Magisk module. With Xposed there's hardly any restrictions on what kind of modifications can be done... In theory. Not currently available on Android Oreo, but from what it sounds like, it's not that far away. Xposed is one of those mods that are really hard to hide, so if you need to use something like SafetyNet, systemless is the way to go since you then can disable and enable it when needed.
There's a lot to read, so (again) make sure you do your homework before doing anything.
And, ALWAYS keep a backup of important files.
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I am sure that I have to learn Android first and then root!
I read about Magisk and I think is the best way to root my device!
Currently though I can't find any reason to root. I used to have iOS so the modifications I can do to my phone without root are already a lot!
When I learn Android and read a lot more about rooting my device and feel that I need it, I will!
I have backup of my device to On, but is this the best way to backup?
Is there any way that backups all my settings, apps and appearance of my phone??
So that I can restore exactly the same image of my phone as it is now and after rooting?
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AkriPro said:
I am sure that I have to learn Android first and then root!
I read about Magisk and I think is the best way to root my device!
Currently though I can't find any reason to root. I used to have iOS so the modifications I can do to my phone without root are already a lot!
When I learn Android and read a lot more about rooting my device and feel that I need it, I will!
I have backup of my device to On, but is this the best way to backup?
Is there any way that backups all my settings, apps and appearance of my phone??
So that I can restore exactly the same image of my phone as it is now and after rooting?
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I will tell you, though, that you shouldn't be too scared of rooting. I rooted my very first Android device back in like 2011, and as long as you just follow the instructions, there is really almost no way to muck anything up. Also, after you unlock your bootloader, you can always recover from (AFAIK) any software error.
Also, I would also say there is not nearly as much reason to root these days and almost anything can be had without it (especially with some new stuff in Oreo), but if you're still on Nougat (Android version 7), then you might want to have a look at Substratum (which is a theming engine for Android). Substratum is pretty much the reason I root, so I can theme my whole phone to be dark grey and black (with Mono/Art and Swift Black) with the simplest procedure (since there's this rootless Substratum module called Andromeda for Oreo, but I haven't even checked it out yet, despite being on an 8.0 AOSP ROM). Of course, you might already like the the theming options the 5T has (and Substratum Legacy support, which is all OxygenOS regrettably has, is really not that great anyway), but it's something to consider in the future.
Also, the best way to back up everything is to get a custom recovery (which needs an unlocked bootloader etc) and backing up from there. I've done that in the past, though, and it has failed to restore often (and I don't profess to being super knowledgeable about it, so I may have mucked something up, but if you're completely new to Android anyway, then that might be a fear worth having). These days, I just use Titanium Backup to back up individual apps, because with Titanium Backup, you can back up an app so that all of the app's settings are kept (which is especially useful for something like Nova Launcher, so that it keeps all of your settings and you can just restore it and use it the way it was before). With that said, Titanium Backup also needs root. The best way to rootlessly back up is...whatever Google back-up options are in the settings, I think.
With that said, just so we're on the same page, you should know that rooting does not wipe your device - unlocking your bootloader does. After you unlock your bootloader, you can root or unroot and you won't lose your data. I'm a pretty reckless person with warranty generally, so I always unlock the bootloader on every new Android I get almost immediately, so I won't have to wipe after that, but you should keep in mind that it does "void warranty" (though I sent in my bootlooping Nexus 6P - which had an unlocked bootloader - to Huawei, and they didn't mind at all, sending me a new 6P as a replacement).
This is a OnePlus device. Unlocking the bootloader does not void the warranty...
https://oneplus.net/support/faq#85000005+GD00000034
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I've always rooted my nexus phones and installed the bevy of apps out there but with my 5X I'm going to go no root for a while and see if I can survive... I need app replacements for a few apps, any suggestions would be welcomed
- viper4android
- volume booster that would come in effect if flashed a kernel
- colour control
Thxs
Sorry I can't help you but I am in the same boat. I want to wait until developers get root with encryption nailed down, there seems to be a bunch of steps and no one is quite sure how root should be handled with 6.0
Never used colour control but I will miss the volume booster. I keep seeing comments about viper4android, time to check it out.
drose6102 said:
Sorry I can't help you but I am in the same boat. I want to wait until developers get root with encryption nailed down, there seems to be a bunch of steps and no one is quite sure how root should be handled with 6.0
Never used colour control but I will miss the volume booster. I keep seeing comments about viper4android, time to check it out.
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Fair enough. I'm in the same boat waiting for certain the process for root and encryption, guess I'll sit tight and just work with what I have. As for viper4android, probably my #1 app, love the sound quality that produces.
I'm trying rootless too. I mainly rooted in the recent past (Sam Gal S4) to use TiBu to freeze all the VZW/Sam crap. Since thats not there now, I think I'm good.
I am also going rootless for now, not sure if I should unlock bootloader or wait..
Will be rooting here soon. Missing the root life from my S4 and the likes of Viper4Android.
I honestly think there's no reason to NOT root at this point. It's SO EASY to return back to stock using factory images, I been rooted with twrp for a week and the phone has been working GREAT fast and smooth. Only problem is for some reason wells fargo app isn't compatible with marshmallow
What could go wrong? all you have to do is flash chainfires modded boot image and viola, easy as pie.
If you wish to root, go right ahead! The procedure is simple and documented clearly in Heisenberg's [GUIDE] Unlock/Root/Flash for Nexus 5X
The same guide also explains how to return to stock (by flashing a factory image).
It's all explained in the guide. It is worth noting that the root process requires one to flash a modified boot.img, which is currently available only for the MDB08I build. So you can only root if you're on that build or can upgrade to it...
Hopefully a 'cleaner' root procedure (with encryption support for those that wish to have it) will emerge, but there are no guarantees.
Also see: A Look at Marshmallow Root & Verity Complications
one reason I haven't rooted yet is the little updates that always come quick after a new release. They will come, and spending an hour fastbooting is just getting old for me. I think I've turned into an old man, I'm just too lazy to wipe/flash/ download set up all over again. Things have come a long way since the N1.
Absolutely though, when exposed and gravity box are good for 6.0 I'm in.
given all of the cool options that open up with root, im wondering why NOT do it??
i mean other than no Android Pay, and having to manually flash rather than ota on phone, is there any real downside?
byproxy said:
given all of the cool options that open up with root, im wondering why NOT do it??
i mean other than no Android Pay, and having to manually flash rather than ota on phone, is there any real downside?
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You can use Android Pay with Magisk I believe. Magisk passes saftey net checks.
byproxy said:
given all of the cool options that open up with root, im wondering why NOT do it??
i mean other than no Android Pay, and having to manually flash rather than ota on phone, is there any real downside?
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Those downsides are enough for some, but the biggest PITA is if you didn't unlock your bootloader then you have to factory wipe when you unlock.
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Those downsides are enough for some, but the biggest PITA is if you didn't unlock your bootloader then you have to factory wipe when you unlock.
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well google backsup your app, mms, sms etc and the way you have your phone set up. Easy to restore and takes 30 mins depending on your connection.... I say go for it!
byproxy said:
given all of the cool options that open up with root, im wondering why NOT do it??
i mean other than no Android Pay, and having to manually flash rather than ota on phone, is there any real downside?
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for some it is android pay
but for others
they don't need it anymore
stock rom nowadays give us most of the options that we needed to root for back in the day
i used the pixel 2 without root for 1 week (before it came out )
and the only thing i need it for was adaway and custom kernels
i used non-root adblocker and it's actually worked fine
so if i am stuck with a phone with no root i can live with it
I always root, but the big downsides are around OTAs and needing to jump through hoops from time to time to update.
Finally it's a security issue, particularly a unlocked bootloader, it's super easy to erase pin or pattern locks from twrp. Also malware in a root app could be devastating to any info you access via phone.
byproxy said:
given all of the cool options that open up with root, im wondering why NOT do it??
i mean other than no Android Pay, and having to manually flash rather than ota on phone, is there any real downside?
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Because some security flaws that come along and some malicious apps expose the fact that you have root to be more effective.
If a good and stable rom like Pure Nexus that passes safety net works flawlessly on the Pixel XL 2 then that would probably be enough for me not to root. That would provide enough features and excitement to the already great experience that stock android now provides. Right now, i enjoy root in order to apply adaway and delete system apps if i so choose. Also nice to be able to use different color profiles. I am one of those that loves to be able to use Android Pay while rooted.
elreydenj said:
If a good and stable rom like Pure Nexus that passes safety net works flawlessly on the Pixel XL 2 then that would probably be enough for me not to root. That would provide enough features and excitement to the already great experience that stock android now provides. Right now, i enjoy root in order to apply adaway and delete system apps if i so choose. Also nice to be able to use different color profiles. I am one of those that loves to be able to use Android Pay while rooted.
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I'm just here praying they're working on Resurrection Remix.
I was on PureNexus and decided what the hell and tried RR and it has everything PureNexus has and more.
DevanteWeary said:
I'm just here praying they're working on Resurrection Remix.
I was on PureNexus and decided what the hell and tried RR and it has everything PureNexus has and more.
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Ill keep that in mind. Did RR pass safety net out of the box on the pixel XL?
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Ill keep that in mind. Did RR pass safety net out of the box on the pixel XL?
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I don't remember. Sorry. :/
I used to be an avid rooter and custom rom user. For me, I'm contempt with the stock factory images. May give PureNexus a shot if it comes around.
Besides, I had an incident with Chase Bank once where I was having trouble getting text alerts. After an hour on the phone with support, they noticed and mentioned I had a "tampered" device. Not that my problem had anything to do with my device being tampered with (rooted), and not that I had any modifications which could cause harm to my banking information, but in the long shot case something did ever happen with your money, I'm sure the banks would have no problem pointing their fingers at your phone.
So if a company like Chase scans to see if your device is rooted, I'm sure most app developers do without telling you.
If someone wants to chime in, not exactly sure how apps see it if you have a rom like Resurrection Remix, or PureNexus, and actually dont root it. I wonder if the apps still consider the device tampered with if there is no root access
byproxy said:
given all of the cool options that open up with root, im wondering why NOT do it??
i mean other than no Android Pay, and having to manually flash rather than ota on phone, is there any real downside?
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You can MOST definitely have Android pay with Root in Pixel. That is the beauty of dual partition setup. Have one partition rooted and other non-rooted, with both sharing the same data partition.
I had done this for the past year on the OG Pixel XL. The only time I would need non-root would be for Android pay - I would just boot to the other slot. Use Android pay and then reboot to the previously active slot after finished.
As for Custom ROM - I'm hoping against hope. Hard to imagine life without the features of PN or RR. However, it is not encouraging given that there is no a single OREO based Custom ROM yet for the OG Pixel XL. Who knows how many developers actually end up getting the Pixel 2 XL - which is more expensive. That is the only reason I'm still waiting with bated breath until my return period for Pixel 2 XL expires. Luckily, the One Plus 5t launches on Nov 16th and the reviews would be out soon. I know OP5 has RR custom ROM which is a big deal..
abogrhen said:
for some it is android pay
but for others
they don't need it anymore
stock rom nowadays give us most of the options that we needed to root for back in the day
i used the pixel 2 without root for 1 week (before it came out )
and the only thing i need it for was adaway and custom kernels
i used non-root adblocker and it's actually worked fine
so if i am stuck with a phone with no root i can live with it
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Yes to all this. I haven't rooted since my Galaxy S5. I was perfectly fine with my Nexus 5X stock and do use Android Pay often enough to want to remain unrooted. I actually used to root and install stock-like ROMs so now that I've been getting Google phones, I have no need.
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Hello. I just purchased the US version of the Honor 7x, but really hate having apps like Instagram and Facebook on my phone. I don't use them. If I root my phone, is it possible to remove these apps and maybe a few unused Google apps and still receive any future OTA? Thanks in advance.
Good question phone hasn't arrived yet but definitely don't want crapbook and tweaker on it.
bloodbath said:
Hello. I just purchased the US version of the Honor 7x, but really hate having apps like Instagram and Facebook on my phone. I don't use them. If I root my phone, is it possible to remove these apps and maybe a few unused Google apps and still receive any future OTA? Thanks in advance.
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Sadly, on the first OTA for Mate2, removing one of the Huawei-created bloatware caused the update to fail. Don't know what the policy is now. So I'd keep backups of removed bloatware. (I think that the OTA was trying to update one of the missing bloatware but there was no option to ignore the error and continue with simply the OS upgrade.)
bloodbath said:
Hello. I just purchased the US version of the Honor 7x, but really hate having apps like Instagram and Facebook on my phone. I don't use them. If I root my phone, is it possible to remove these apps and maybe a few unused Google apps and still receive any future OTA? Thanks in advance.
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You can't apply OTA even if you unroot after root without even touching system apps. This is the case with 7X.
It's not the removing of bloat that causes problems with OTA's. It's what you have to do in order to remove bloat which is rooting the phone. Rooting modifies the system data which then fails the check performed when an OTA tries to install. Rooting modifies the system partition and adding twrp modifies the boot partition. So as of now doing anything other than unlocking the bootloader will give you problems whenever we get official OTA.
SVR said:
You can't apply OTA even if you unroot after root without even touching system apps. This is the case with 7X.
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str8stryk3r said:
It's not the removing of bloat that causes problems with OTA's. It's what you have to do in order to remove bloat which is rooting the phone.
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That's unfortunate. It has been many years since the Mate2 but I don't recall it being as restrictive back then. If I recall correctly, I was able to leave the phone rooted as long I restored stock bootloader and stock recovery. But the OTA failed when it was trying to update one or more of the Huawei apps so I only had to restore the boatware from TB.
I guess I should keep backups of all stock images before rooting. Thanks for the info.
This is very disheartening to hear. With the new additions (e. g. Facial recognition) supposedly incorporated into the next update, I would like to keep OTA. The other items taking up space on my phone is very annoying though. Oh well, I guess the apps aren't a big issue for now. I just wish Huawei would have let us choose our own apps.
bloodbath said:
This is very disheartening to hear. With the new additions (e. g. Facial recognition) supposedly incorporated into the next update, I would like to keep OTA. The other items taking up space on my phone is very annoying though. Oh well, I guess the apps aren't a big issue for now. I just wish Huawei would have let us choose our own apps.
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Well eventually/hopefully, we'll get some devs to pick up development on the device where twrp, root, and custom roms will let us get our phones to the way we want them. I stayed away from twrp and rooting just for that reason. I just disabled all the crap they added that I don't use
str8stryk3r said:
Well eventually/hopefully, we'll get some devs to pick up development on the device where twrp, root, and custom roms will let us get our phones to the way we want them. I stayed away from twrp and rooting just for that reason. I just disabled all the crap they added that I don't use
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Seeing that the initial popularity and price point for the quality of phone have been positive so far, I do think that will happen. I too am staying away until it occurs. I have ignored the apps I don't like for now, but truly miss apps like Adaway and Titanium Backup, which require root. Oh well, soon hopefully.
I have been able to remove a few apps
I've been rooting phones since the original (G1), but I've now arrived at the point where rooting is no longer the irresistible desire it used to be. I know heavily skinned versions of Android like EMUI & MIUI are not for everyone, but I actually enjoy them. I'm patiently waiting for the OTA. Once Oreo arrives, I might consider rooting, but I'm in no rush.
There are some apps you can uninstall without root.
You can uninstall third party apps like Facebook, that was the first thing I did
I haven't rooted or installed twrp yet until the L24 releases the stock firmware but as another user stated you can remove some of the third party apps. The ones that Huawei made system apps that can't be removed without root are the ones that would give problems with the ota like the stock launcher and the Sim toolkits and other various crap. I wish they would hurry up with the stock firmware release because there are some things I'd like to do that require root
U can remove the blotware without rooting by using adb ..
Just follow the link
sivaukxc said:
U can remove the blotware without rooting by using adb ..
Just follow the link
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But again, removing system apps could cause the ota to fail if one of those apps tries to get updated and it's not there
I know there is plenty of info out there. I have read about it and watched some videos.
I wanted to hear what magisk is and what people think of it from the m9 users and modders out there. I imagine it will work slightly different on most phones. especially when were modding them.
I recently updated my phone to android 7. Im using leedroid.
I noticed all the new roms use magisk and systemless root to pass androids new safety checks so i figured id try it out.
Which involved updating my firmware so i cant go back.
What im noticing is most of the things i actually used root for are not working anymore. mostly the adblockers.
When i download the magisk modules they either dont show up or just do not do anything (unified hosts).
Im not sure if this is just my phone or if we are just not caught up with the new work arounds for android.
Can we still use supersu and have all the old mods like xposed working? or are we stuck with this half a root thing?
Just some questions. But mainly just want to start a discussion about it.
Although I've never used magisk I understand it to be another supersu.
I found rooting phones is a waste of time and effort. I was like you and rooted for adblocking but then I found adguard which made root useless for me. I unrooted and updated to 7.0 and have never looked back.
People will argue that root is for custom roms etc but what they don't seem to realise is stock roms are always best, fastest and most reliable. Custom roms use improvised methods to get the hardware working.
The only reason left to root is to cheat games and that makes the games boring after 5 minutes so what's the point anymore..
Hello,
Yesterday, I successfully rooted my Samsung Galaxy S10+. But since I still had some questions about it, I went on and posted a thread here. User Spaceminer then pointed out that my original post was in the wrong subforum and linked me here. Naturally, I looked at some of the most popular posts in hopes to find answers to my questions. But what I found confused me more than it gave me answers.
Since 2014 with the Samsung Galaxy S5 I got used to rooting in order to disable bloatware, protect my data and customize my phone. I continued doing that with the S8+ until I recently got my hands on the S10. Now, my main reason for rooting are still the same; I want disable (not necessarily uninstall) bloatware, protect my privacy and customize my phone (such as changing the background of the dial when calling someone). But that thread made me wonder if it is even essential to root. I also found a similar post on reddit and most answers seem to agree that it is not necessary to root your phones.
Now, my situation is a bit different. For one, I already rooted my phone. Second, I don't care about warranty nor custom ROMs. But I do want to install a banking app. Also, it is a bit cumbersome to not only have to manually update your phone with every update but the booting requirements with the warning screen are also a bit annoying. So, my question is the following:
What are the advantages of rooting that are not possible without? I have 3 main concerns: Bloatware, Privacy and Customization.
The reason why I posted this in a separate threat is that I was not able to come to a definitive conclusion on my own and most discussion threads are over a year old. By now, the whole process of rooting and what is possible changed since then, so I want to get a more recent insight. I hope you can help me out.
With kind regards,
DasMalzbier
Tbh root is not needed, unless you want to use a custom rom. Most things are already in the android now.
Calyx os not make for samsung Galaxy series and 12 update also comes this year so i think rooting is unnecessary for s10 series
Root is 100%, absolutely necessary for using the phone. I cannot use any phone without it. Critical root-only capabilities:
full system backups (in twrp)
titanium backup
disable updates permanently (update ONLY when want to)
app freezers (app quarantine)
disable/remove bloatware
disable google play services/google play
automate/tasker
cf lumen
adblockers
wifi tether
busybox
superuser
ssh tunnel
update android to later version / install custom roms
optimize system
button mapper
custom theming / substratum
nav gestures
tidypanel
xposed
root explorer
app privacy customizations
3c all-in-one toolbox
more
Without root, the phone is unusable to me. I will never buy any phone without root capability. I am willing to go to different carriers just to get root on the device, or go to different manufacturers if root is blocked. For example, I will never buy a huawei device - they are locked.
I would like to say yes but I can't. the stock apps are very well designed.
The biggest concern is that custom Roms are released faster than modded apps.
For example I tried about ten GCAMs and all of them have a bug... and it becomes more complicated with Exynos.
OpenGcam is not worth samsung app.
Unable to get voice match to work.
Alarms that you can't set to a specific day with the google app.
And so on.
Root is useful when the manufacturer no longer updates the devices.
I regret having Root mine because I lost Samsung Pay and other things.
DemotionFR said:
I would like to say yes but I can't. the stock apps are very well designed.
The biggest concern is that custom Roms are released faster than modded apps.
For example I tried about ten GCAMs and all of them have a bug... and it becomes more complicated with Exynos.
OpenGcam is not worth samsung app.
Unable to get voice match to work.
Alarms that you can't set to a specific day with the google app.
And so on.
Root is useful when the manufacturer no longer updates the devices.
I regret having Root mine because I lost Samsung Pay and other things.
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The only one that would have any consequence of rooting is Samsung Pay.
xbt- said:
Root is 100%, absolutely necessary for using the phone. I cannot use any phone without it. Critical root-only capabilities:
full system backups (in twrp)
titanium backup
disable updates permanently (update ONLY when want to)
app freezers (app quarantine)
disable/remove bloatware
disable google play services/google play
automate/tasker
cf lumen
adblockers
wifi tether
busybox
superuser
ssh tunnel
update android to later version / install custom roms
optimize system
button mapper
custom theming / substratum
nav gestures
tidypanel
xposed
root explorer
app privacy customizations
3c all-in-one toolbox
more
Without root, the phone is unusable to me. I will never buy any phone without root capability. I am willing to go to different carriers just to get root on the device, or go to different manufacturers if root is blocked. For example, I will never buy a huawei device - they are locked.
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can you carrier /network unlock with the root >?
NickosD said:
Tbh root is not needed, unless you want to use a custom rom. Most things are already in the android now.
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No, even if you wanna use custom rom you don't need to root. Just pick the rom with the apps you want or just use the gapps packages you want, if want essential to work gapps then use pico or nano. If there is still something you want to remove and the romdoesn't allow, just use adb shell commands and thats it. Less issues with banks not working because of Magisk (root). I know Magisk has a feature to hide itself, change its name but depending on the app, the libs can be found and know that is Magisk, so for security purposes some apps don't work and some aren't even shown in the Google Play Store just because you rooted the device.
logandavid said:
maybe now the root is not needed but later down the road when your phone will get obsolete and newer android OS updates will be halted for S10+ then you'll be more attracted towards custom roms. Actually it is just personal preference.
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It's happening right now, I doubt S10+ will receive Android 13 and now just security and bug fix updates are being shipped by Samsung.
Haknor said:
It's happening right now, I doubt S10+ will receive Android 13 and now just security and bug fix updates are being shipped by Samsung.
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It won't get any new Android upgrades AFAIK.
But appart from tripping knox, what else do I lose if I unlock my bootloader? I read once, quite a while ago, that the battery is limited to 80% of its full capacity. Is that true?
io_gh0st said:
It won't get any new Android upgrades AFAIK.
But appart from tripping knox, what else do I lose if I unlock my bootloader? I read once, quite a while ago, that the battery is limited to 80% of its full capacity. Is that true?
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Depending on the version, you'll notice stock camera to be limited or not work as expected, secure folder, dual messenger either not working, it can trigger some banks or payment apps (especially if you root), no more ota updates (if you keep using stock rom), drm content can stop working, samsung pay, Play Store might limited the apps you see and so on... Not sure about the battery, for me unlocking the bootloader and switching to another rom made my battery last more than stock, but it depends on the rom, the device, it's not a rule of thumb.