Hello All,
I'm willing to dedicate the time and effort to develop applications and maybe create a Free CID Unlocker. I'm in 3rd Year I.T & Business Management, I've completed a course in Microsoft Visual Basic. I'm interested in learning more about Windows Mobile 5/6 to further develop applications based on people's needs. I don't want to promise anything but I'm willing to put in all efforts if someone can guide me in the right way. I'm interested in developing applications, yes i'm a newbie to applications development but not a newbie to smartphone/pocket pc phones. I've owned an I-Mate Jam and currently own the HTC s621/Dash/Excalibur. I'd love to develop applications and most of all find a way to CID Unlock the excalibur. If someone who has experience in this field can help me or guide me to the right guides to pursue applications development for Windows Mobile/Pocket Pc, I'd really appreciate it. 2 Members are ready to donate, they are r0p3 and egosumpaul. i don't mind co-working with a group of people to develop a free CID unlocker and maybe applications. Yes, i know nothing in terms of applications development but everyone at one point don't know anything as well. There's always a start somewhere and I want to start now as I'm also going to be specializing in Telecommunications & Networking.
I have all resources, programs-wise and all windows mobile 6 ROMS. My device is application unlocked with security prompt off. Incase I do need programming software, i can get that as well, so no worries in the department of software, just need the guidance to do this, people start with no knowledge and with a few helping hands, we all can get somewhere. I see many people ask for FREE CID/SIM unlocking solution for the HTC Excalibur.
OFFER: 20 $
TESTING: I'm ready to test
SUPPORT: 2 Members (Egosumpaul & r0p3 - hats off to their determination) as of now, one willing to pay 20 $ and another one willing to pay 40 $ i think. total - 20 + 20 + 40 = 80 $
who's with me? please don't back off, i'd love to see support through this, i have hope - i hope we can get somewhere, if IMEI can do it, so can we - they are people too, sure they might be professionals but at one point they were like us, i don't mean to talk highly of me or anyone nor am i putting them down - i just don't want to pay 38 $ for CID Unlocking, I want to make a FREE CID Unlocking Solution for everyone. guide me in the right track and i'll try my best to do it. if someone's willing to make it and already are experienced, then please do so
Thanks in advance for everyone's support !
Co nfirm my 20...
20 Views & 1 Reply? C'mon I honestly thought i'd see more positivity in this thread. Everyone wants a Free CID/SIM Unlocker but if we don't work together, It's not going to be easy. If someone has any knowledge on this topic, please feel free to post, you don't have to make a donation, just enlighten me atleast. I have hope, even if i can't do it, i'll try and get somewhere - if not me, someone else.
Thanks for the support, egosumpaul - i noticed you linked my thread on gsm-forum as well. i appreciate it.
hmm..i don't think anyone's even interested, i'm gonna wait till tommorow and see - i hope to see some responses.
I agree with you lukybandit.
I made a poll here and am very disappointed about the result.
Seems most of the people are not willing to pay or even help.
Maybe they think "I don't care - somebody will do it - don't bother about it"
They don't see the hard work and time to crawl through Assembler code of IPL/SPL and the risk to completely break the device when patching it the wrong way.
Also see here for background
As for your idea of a CID unlock:
I think the better way would be a patched IPL/SPL that doesn't check for CID/VendorID and .nbh signing because it has more value since you can also flash cooked/modified ROMs.
Like pof did it with his USPL here for the HTC Touch for example (I donated 30$ for his work btw.)
SIM unlock would be another hard way to crack the encryption.
Good luck lukybandit that people wake up and support you!!!
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I agree with you lukybandit.
I made a poll here and am very disappointed about the result.
Seems most of the people are not willing to pay or even help.
Maybe they think "I don't care - somebody will do it - don't bother about it"
They don't see the hard work and time to crawl through Assembler code of IPL/SPL and the risk to completely break the device when patching it the wrong way.
Also see here for background
As for your idea of a CID unlock:
I think the better way would be a patched IPL/SPL that doesn't check for CID/VendorID and .nbh signing because it has more value since you can also flash cooked/modified ROMs.
Like pof did it with his USPL here for the HTC Touch for example (I donated 30$ for his work btw.)
SIM unlock would be another hard way to crack the encryption.
Good luck lukybandit that people wake up and support you!!!
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Thanks for the support r0p3, and yeah... maype pof would like to take the challenge, he did a great job with the Touch.
I'm very interested in the subject of how these bootloaders work and the whole CID lock process, but know almost nothing about it. I'm curious but don't want to brick my device too much, as I already partially bricked it by playing with the registry... took a long time to hard reset it. I'd like to help but don't really know where to begin other than to say that we need complete ROM dumps from a CID locked device and a CID unlocked device... the by comparing them, we can see whats changed.
I'm just quickly replying to build interest and support for this cause - egosumpaul, mixx, r0p3 and me are willing to donate 20 $ for the cause so let's see more interest in this subject. c'mon now, almost everybody have their free SIM & CID unlockers, what about us? let's do something about it. i'm just going to have lunch and come back then post a detailed reply.
So Far, 4 Donors Ready - Let's See Some More - Cmon !
r0p3 said:
I agree with you lukybandit.
I made a poll here and am very disappointed about the result.
Seems most of the people are not willing to pay or even help.
Maybe they think "I don't care - somebody will do it - don't bother about it"
They don't see the hard work and time to crawl through Assembler code of IPL/SPL and the risk to completely break the device when patching it the wrong way.
Also see here for background
As for your idea of a CID unlock:
I think the better way would be a patched IPL/SPL that doesn't check for CID/VendorID and .nbh signing because it has more value since you can also flash cooked/modified ROMs.
Like pof did it with his USPL here for the HTC Touch for example (I donated 30$ for his work btw.)
SIM unlock would be another hard way to crack the encryption.
Good luck lukybandit that people wake up and support you!!!
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Hello r0p3,
i really appreciate your efforts and the interest in the subject. I'm glad you're willing to donate and work for the cause. I've seen your threads and it's sad that people aren't really motivated to donate and help but let's not loose hope. We're 4 but hopefully soon we will have the support we need. For now, let's focus on what we can do to help. I've pm'ed you, check your pm. Thanks for the support once again.
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I'm very interested in the subject of how these bootloaders work and the whole CID lock process, but know almost nothing about it. I'm curious but don't want to brick my device too much, as I already partially bricked it by playing with the registry... took a long time to hard reset it. I'd like to help but don't really know where to begin other than to say that we need complete ROM dumps from a CID locked device and a CID unlocked device... the by comparing them, we can see whats changed.
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hey uccellino, i never thought about that one but a smart thought, I'm willing to dump my ROM - if anyone could guide me in the right way as to how to do it, I'll do it right away then hopefully we can get a member to dump his unlocked ROM. also, i know nothing about the subject too but that's how we learn, we always start somewhere so atleast we're at a better stage - the fact that we're willing to learn, put in the time and efforts - trust me, i don't want to brick my device either but i'll try my best and help. Thanks once again for the support.
UPDATE:
ok, i was playing around with HTC Trinity SIM_CID Unlocker downloadble at this link
http://rapidshare.com/files/20880414/HTC_Trinity_SIM_CID_Unlock_v1.zip
made by pof last night and even though i really didn't get anywhere, i was able to run the Unlocker on my device. It did not SIM or CID Unlock the device but here are the list of errors i got:
Couldn't list locked facilities
Couldn't reset facility01
Couldn't reset facility02
Couldn't reset facility04
Couldn't reset facility08
Couldn't reset facility10
Couldn't reset facility16
Couldn't reset facility32
Couldn't get CID1
Couldn't set SuperCID1
Couldn't get CID2
Couldn't set SuperCID2
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Final Result: Device SIM/Network lock removed and set to SuperCID
now i tried upgrading the rom image to WM6 after i did that and unfortunately i get the [ERROR 294] Invalid Vendor ID.
so it's clear that it did not work but here's the deal
the program did run so we could maybe use the same program layout, dump the rom's of locked and unlocked devices, compare them and maybe get somewhere.
now i'll try and get in touch with pof - the creator of this program for some help since he is an experienced guy and know's what he's doing. so the program runs but does not execute the code because obviously the code is different, we're looking to break in the code so for example:
Couldn't reset facility01
Couldn't reset facility02
Couldn't reset facility04
Couldn't reset facility08
Couldn't reset facility10
Couldn't reset facility16
Couldn't reset facility32
we can see that the program tries to reset facilities by doubling the facility number that is 01 to 02 to 04 etc. now i will have a look at r0p3's thread "SSPL possible for excalibur" and see if i can get some information there. I will upload the HTC Trinity SIM/CID Unlocker for those willing to look into this into more detail. if someone can tell me what exactly i'm looking for, i'm willing to go into the software specifics. i know it's not much but atleast we know the program works on our device, just does not break the code. I will also provide links to the WM6 ROM ImageS and to the ROM Bootloader update.
1) HTC Russian WM6 ROM
- http://rapidshare.com/files/42890131....1_4.1.13..exe
2) T-MOBILE WWE WM6 ROM
- http://rapidshare.com/files/28455965/RUU_Excalibur_TMO_US_1.22.531.4_4.1.13.34_02.79.90_Ship.exe
3) ROM Bootloader update
- ftp://xda:[email protected]
4) OLD ROM IMAGE
ftp://xda:[email protected]_WWE_1.11.405.4_4.1.13.28_02.63.90_Ship.exe
5) Application Unlock (Just Incase)
- ftp://xda:[email protected]
6) IMEI DASH V2 Unlocker
- http://www.imei-check.co.uk/DASHv2Unlock.zip
7) Mobile Registry Editor (Could Prove Handy)
- http://www.breaksoft.com/Download/MR...stryEditor.zip
alright, i've included all links to potential requirements. if there's anything else - please let me know. I'm also copying from the previous thread that is
SSPL possible for Excalibur
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=308564
please refer for background purposes.
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Originally Posted by pof
SSPL has an hermes or trinity IPL embedded, that won't work on excalibur. The hermes SSPL works on breeze because breeze & hermes IPLs are quite the same, but compare them with an excalibur IPL and you'll see what i mean.
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You can probably replace the resource on the exe with an excalibur IPL, or try to contact Des for help with SSPL.
So if I understand right I "only" would have to replace the Hermes IPL-Data with Excalibur IPL-Data in this SSPL and chances are good that it works.
So the SPL generated in RAM can be the same?
- r0p3
Of course, you must also patch it to bypass nbh signature checks... This was the "Holy Grail" achieved first by Des.
- Sleuth255
Yes I have read about this - the SSPL.exe generates a (patched) SPL in RAM so far I understand - and this SPL (generating code) can remain the same, am I right?
- r0p3
You need to patch ipl so it doesn`t hang on boot. we didn`t do it with breeze as it is the same as hermes. In spl you need to patch the cid check and nbh check function. Also, it`s omap, not samsung - the addresses are different
- sp3dev
ok that's the important posts from the thread.
hmm - I will see what I can figure out even though my programming skills are a little bit rusty...so all in all, that's all the information i thought we needed for now, if there's anything else i can add, please notify me. like i said i'm willing to put in the efforts and time involved in this project. let's do something about this as we are a big community and it disappoints me to see so many people not come forward, support or donate for the cause.
sorry about the long post. hope to see a free cid and sim unlock solution, that's all. Good Luck !
p.s: r0p3, can you please upload your ROM dump image? thanks.
Willing To Donate Information
I have a T-Mobile Dash that I've had SIM/CID unlocked, and I'm willing to donate and information you need. I'm a total nub when it comes to WinMo Firmware hacking, and I really don't know much about modern Smartphone designs (got out of PDAs a while back, then they took a quantum leap on me, and it's a whole new vocabulary). I have next to no programming experience, and I'm running Mac OS X, but I'm willing to give you ROM dumps and the like, if you need them.
I'd donate money, but I'm having enough trouble paying for my schooling and books and trying to find a new job. Sorry
Kichigai said:
I have a T-Mobile Dash that I've had SIM/CID unlocked, and I'm willing to donate and information you need. I'm a total nub when it comes to WinMo Firmware hacking, and I really don't know much about modern Smartphone designs (got out of PDAs a while back, then they took a quantum leap on me, and it's a whole new vocabulary). I have next to no programming experience, and I'm running Mac OS X, but I'm willing to give you ROM dumps and the like, if you need them.
I'd donate money, but I'm having enough trouble paying for my schooling and books and trying to find a new job. Sorry
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perfect, thanks a lot. i'll try and find someone who can ask you to go through the proper steps required to extract a rom. it's ok - i understand, i'm going through the same but lol i want windows mobile 6 on my phone and at the same time help the community by trying to get the proper support to develop a free sim & cid unlocker. thanks in advance. i can provide a locked rom, no problem - i'm just unaware as to how to extract a rom, i'm going out for a bit but when i come back, i'll do some research and find out how to extract roms.
thanks once again, the support is slow but it's getting there, alright
i'm very disappointed at the response, 401 views and only 12 replies? you've got to be kidding me, this is pathetic ! i'm lost for words, say even if i take 300 views instead of 401 views, that's almost 300 people that's seen this thread and only 12 replies, what kind of support or response is this? you guys want a free CID/SIM but don't want to donate or support, forget donation - even a little bit of help...say ok i'll cut it down to 100 people viewed my thread, out of those 100 people, say only 10 people have knowledge on this subject - still only 12 replies which the majority is me. this is sad, i honestly can't believe the fact that i've barely gotten support for the right cause. i'm still willing to help and do whatever it takes, can people please start supporting this thread so we can get out there and do the dirty work to develop a free unlocking solution, please. thanks in advance
p.s: you don't have to donate, it's not necessary but just some technical support or guidance could really help us. why am i wasting my time, why'd i waste my time and wrote that update with links if noone really is ready to help me and the other members that are willing to do this? honestly, thanks to those who have shown interest in this cause and for your generous offer for donation.
lukybandit said:
... I'm willing to dump my ROM - if anyone could guide me in the right way as to how to do it, I'll do it right away then hopefully we can get a member to dump his unlocked ROM....
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Actually the idea is from pof (thanks ), who wrote this:
Excalibur uses Samsung OneNAND chip, itsme developed a tool to access the non-OS sections of the chip, ie: where the CID area is stored.
The simlock data is stored on the first 0x20000 bytes of the gsmsection.
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For those interested:
OneNAND the chip
bkondisk.zip a tool to read off data -
More info on using this tool: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285003&highlight=bkondisk (thanks itsme )
So can someone who has unlocked their device please dump an image?
I will admit to being a viewer, keenly interested in the success of this tool, but honestly I am a follower. I had a Wizard and hacked the snot out of it, how? Using stuff off this wonderful forum. I didn't develop anything and I followed everything I read step by step because otherwise I have absolutely no idea what I am doing with PDA's, XDA's, Smartphones and all the other stuff. Unfortunitely I am also broke at the moment. That could change and if it does I would be willing to donate as this forum has always provided wonderful wonderful advise for me in more then one type of phone, operating system, etc. I never wrote anything in this thread before because I don't know what I have to offer. I don't have time, money, or knowledge. Guess you could say I am a bottom feeder. Not that I don't try. But I felt guilty about reading this thread without saying anything given your comments about people not supporting but are viewing. This could be a large part of the reason.
Anyway, there is my two cents. Sorry.
uccellino said:
More info on using this tool: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285003&highlight=bkondisk (thanks itsme )
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that's the thread I tried at that time to get a ROM dumped and flash it back.
But with that OS-image I was not able to extract the files out of it.
Got the files at that time only with imgfs-Tools and the "-nosplit" Option
So can someone who has unlocked their device please dump an image?
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Ok - here is the dump of IPL/SPL/GSM I had done with bkondisk - I think those are exactly what we need to explore and patch for a CID/SIM unlock
also have a look in the WIKI here
lukybandit said:
I have all resources, programs-wise and all windows mobile 6 ROMS.
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So what's the beg for donations for? Most of us here work on this stuff and give back to the community because we gain the knowledge that others share with us. Pardon me if I come off all high and mighty but you're really in the wrong forums. XDA developers have been around a VERY long time and it survived by what services are provided for free. Only recently has it been infiltrated by nubes who aren't interested in development and just want a free ROM or a free unlock solution. If people feel like donating to help the cause, give it to XDA Developers to help defray the hosting costs. Especially the additional influx by people just downloading ROMS and utilities. And if you use any of the tools developed by others, shouldn't they receive a substantial part of your donations?
You also realize, that most of the people begging for the free unlocking service are too cheap to pay for what has existed for a long time. I paid my 40 bucks the day my Dash arrived and have been enjoying throwing ROMS on it since. So those of us that already paid, we are not interested. Those who didn't are looking for a FREE solution. Yours isn't free. You want 20 bucks for the dream of a solution. I'm pretty sure you won't be able to come up with it, personally. Prove me wrong, please. But do it for free.
-Mc
Donations for...
McHale said:
So what's the beg for donations for? Most of us here work on this stuff and give back to the community because we gain the knowledge that others share with us. Pardon me if I come off all high and mighty but you're really in the wrong forums. XDA developers have been around a VERY long time and it survived by what services are provided for free. Only recently has it been infiltrated by nubes who aren't interested in development and just want a free ROM or a free unlock solution. If people feel like donating to help the cause, give it to XDA Developers to help defray the hosting costs. Especially the additional influx by people just downloading ROMS and utilities. And if you use any of the tools developed by others, shouldn't they receive a substantial part of your donations?
You also realize, that most of the people begging for the free unlocking service are too cheap to pay for what has existed for a long time. I paid my 40 bucks the day my Dash arrived and have been enjoying throwing ROMS on it since. So those of us that already paid, we are not interested. Those who didn't are looking for a FREE solution. Yours isn't free. You want 20 bucks for the dream of a solution. I'm pretty sure you won't be able to come up with it, personally. Prove me wrong, please. But do it for free.
-Mc
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I´m willing to donate to the guy who makes the effort (since time is a scarce good...), or to the forum, if the developer suggests that. Anyway, I still prefer not to pay to imeicheck -for example- but motivate the guys to free the app. and make it available to everybody.
No sin that, right?
egosumpaul said:
I´m willing to donate to the guy who makes the effort (since time is a scarce good...), or to the forum, if the developer suggests that. Anyway, I still prefer not to pay to imeicheck -for example- but motivate the guys to free the app. and make it available to everybody.
No sin that, right?
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Not that it's a sin, but we see someone come along every once in a while "borrow" the tools that are made available (for free) on this site and use them to come up with a utility or a tool that they try to make money on.
Look at all the programs that take the reg patches we discover and put a front end on it and sell it for 30 bucks? It makes people no longer want to support the community because someone else makes money from it.
So in essence, it slowly destroys the community.
Now, he has a beautiful plan. If everyone on here pays him 20 bucks to help motivate him and he can't fulfill your dream, no harm no foul. Your 20 bucks didn't go for a guarentee.
Or, you could pay IMEI-CHECK 40 bucks and it will be onlocked... GUARENTEED.
I am not associated with IMEI-CHECK in any way. But if they offer a service that nobody else offers, they can charge whatever they want. 40 bucks isn't bad. Besides, they didn't beg anyone for money to figure things out and they didn't use anyone else's tools.
-Mc
Hi Everyone,
As an individual that has recently migrated from the Hero forums where radio flashes are recommended on a willy nilly basis to "solve" common problems (such as GPS or wifi issues), I have to ask, why is the attitude on the opposite side of the spectrum here? I'm open to technical explanations or anything else that may be relevant.
On the Hero side of things, I noticed that most bricks were products of user error. Considering that HTC released both a GSM and CDMA version of the device (and naming them exactly the same), many unsuspecting users would brick by flashing a CDMA radio on a GSM Hero. In other cases, impatient users would pull the battery during the flashing process -- all while unaware of the consequences.
So, I'd like to hear different opinions on this seemingly contentious issue (as I do see users recommending radio flashes in light of the warnings from developers to not touch the radio at all).
Thank you.
Anybody recommending flashing radios on a "willy nilly basis" are flippin' retards. Doesn't matter if your phone is a 32A (Hero/Magic), 32B (Dream/Magic), or a Vision.
The risks are as follows;
1) An incorrect or incomplete flash WILL render the hardware "bricked".
2) A radio that is incompatible with the hardware or the SPL *WILL* render the hardware "bricked".
Go into the DREAM forums and count just how many people bricked their phones due to something really stupid, like incompatibility with the SPL.... there is always a chance that a new radio will be incompatible with an old SPL. Especially since there are FOUR DIFFERENT SPLs available for Vision.... US/International shipping SPLs, US/International ENGINEERING SPLs. Note that the ENGINEERING SPLs carry older version numbers than the SHIPPING SPLs, so new radios will NOT be made to have compatibility with engineering SPLs in mind.
Is there someone out there that can help clarify the proper way to determine the correct radio for each Desire Z that is out there? This would be the biggest help to all. Education of the proper procedure and the correct radios to use would be more of an asset than having everone scare each other with tales of the bricked phone! If we had an accurate listing for each phone with the MD5 of the files involved there would not be nearly as many bricked phones. I have no doubts the Mods would sticky it for us also.
This is a site that we all come to to learn and I am sure we all enjoy experimenting with our phones and want to do it as safely as possible.
I currently use an Inspire 4g and it took me 7 radios before I found the one that worked to my satisfaction with the rom I am using in the area of the world that I live in. I found it, now I leave it alone.
Why am I putting my .02 in you may ask? I am waiting for a desire Z that I bought on ebay to arrive so I can experiment with it as a spare phone. I just sold 2 Captivates that were spares to get the DZ. I would love to have an accurate source of information that I can further my own education.
I do not have the knowledge to do this or I would but I am sure there are some people that are a lot more intellegent than I that can.
Sorry to be so long winded but I wanted to make sure I did not come across sounding pushy. Just a thought to help all concerned.
SNadler said:
Is there someone out there that can help clarify the proper way to determine the correct radio for each Desire Z that is out there? This would be the biggest help to all. Education of the proper procedure and the correct radios to use would be more of an asset than having everone scare each other with tales of the bricked phone! If we had an accurate listing for each phone with the MD5 of the files involved there would not be nearly as many bricked phones. I have no doubts the Mods would sticky it for us also.
This is a site that we all come to to learn and I am sure we all enjoy experimenting with our phones and want to do it as safely as possible.
I currently use an Inspire 4g and it took me 7 radios before I found the one that worked to my satisfaction with the rom I am using in the area of the world that I live in. I found it, now I leave it alone.
Why am I putting my .02 in you may ask? I am waiting for a desire Z that I bought on ebay to arrive so I can experiment with it as a spare phone. I just sold 2 Captivates that were spares to get the DZ. I would love to have an accurate source of information that I can further my own education.
I do not have the knowledge to do this or I would but I am sure there are some people that are a lot more intellegent than I that can.
Sorry to be so long winded but I wanted to make sure I did not come across sounding pushy. Just a thought to help all concerned.
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Every phone sold in regular mobile phone shops on this earth is provided with the correct radio for the region where it is sold. As in a closed box with EMEI numbers and all the stuff on it. If you live in the outback of Australia and buy (through Ebay) a phone originated for Estonia then you could be in for a surprise.
HLeenders said:
Every phone sold in regular mobile phone shops on this earth is provided with the correct radio for the region where it is sold. As in a closed box with EMEI numbers and all the stuff on it. If you live in the outback of Australia and buy (through Ebay) a phone originated for Estonia then you could be in for a surprise.
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That is exactly my point.
There are a lot of people that for one reason or another WILL change their radio. Why not make it so all that do are educated on the proper way to do it and have a correct listing of the proper radio for each device with the coresponding MD5 to minimize the issues? Is this not part of what xda is all about? IMHO it will help all concerned.
SNadler said:
That is exactly my point.
There are a lot of people that for one reason or another WILL change their radio. Why not make it so all that do are educated on the proper way to do it and have a correct listing of the proper radio for each device with the coresponding MD5 to minimize the issues? Is this not part of what xda is all about? IMHO it will help all concerned.
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It is here!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=970809
What a great question! I'm so glad you asked!
I recently gave in and got my bootloader unlocked on my Verizon R800x, just so I could see what all the hoopla was about. After a few days of analysis, I've already been able to draw some conclusions that I hope new seekers will find useful.
There are several things to know when making a decision like this one.
1. What model of Xperia Play am I rocking? Not all Xperia Plays are created equal. There is the data connection to consider. If you are in most of the world outside of the US, you probably have a carrier that uses GSM for data. So does AT&T and Sprint in the US. Because it is so common, there are lots of Custom ROMS and kernels, unlocking the bootloader is easy, and many people are experienced in supporting GSM. But you're a Verizon Wireless customer? - sorry, you use a CDMA connection, which means your choices are much more limited, unlocking the bootloader is more of a challenge, and people tend to laugh at you!
2. Do I want to use the phone primarily for gaming with that sweet gamepad and not-so-sweet touchpads? Do I really depend on my phone to be 100% useable at all times? Better stick with ROMs and kernels based off of stock. No need to even know what a bootloader is!
3. Or, screw the games, I wanna be big, bad and bold, on the bleeding edge of technology! Well then, plan on furthering your techie education! You're going to be learning all kinds of fun and interesting terms, like soft brick, hard brick, adb, fastboot, flashing , RAM, ROM, push, root and boot - after awhile it all starts sounding like a naughty little party is going on in your phone! Hey, Baby! I got yer bootloader right here, know wut I'm sayin?
How about some do's and don'ts?
DON'T post a question on how to root, unlock the bootloader, install coolappofthemoment.apk or what does any of these terms mean without doing a little research on your own first. Chances are, someone else asked it at least once, probably a million times, and the only responses you're likely to get are "GEEZE, READ THE BLOODY FORUMS, YA N00B!!!"
DO use Google, search the forums, and actually READ the threads that seem relevant to your question. Yes, you will read a more than a few posts like "Does this work yet?", "I don't like the color of...", "MemberX is a troll!", but interspersed in there is quite a bit of information that you may benefit from and often you will find your answer much more quickly than posting a question and waiting for a valid response.
DON'T be afraid of rooting your phone but...
DO be aware that your warranty may (will) be affected by modifying your phone.
DON'T remove anything preinstalled by the service provider until you...
DO a Nandroid Backup first. (There's a term you will want to explore further. Hint: Look into CWM Custom Recovery.)
DON'Tuninstall system apps right away. Instead freeze them (OOOH another term you might want to learn. Hint: Titanium Backup among other apps.) Once you are comfortable with restoring your Nandroid Backup, you understand what the app does, and you experience no issues freezing it, then you can remove it if you want to free up some internal storage space.
DO pay attention to who the developers are for different projects, as well as frequent posters with actual useful contributions. You can tell who they are by the phrase "The Following 9 million Users Say Thank You to UltraDev For This Useful Post:" These are the people you want to make your bestest friends.
WOW !! Who knew there was so much to learn !!! Can't I just skip all that and charge blindly ahead??? I have one word for you. BRICK !!! OK, I have another word for you:
DON'T!!!
After trying the few kernels and Custom ROMs available to me (Yes, I am a lucky Verizon customer), I decided that, for me, it's fun to be able to juggle razors (Get It? Be on the BLEEDING EDGE???), but since some of the things I like to do with my phone are not yet working with the latest and greatest, I'm better off sticking with a customized stock configuration. The great thing is, I can always try the newer stuff and then go back to the "safe" setup.
Oh yeah! I almost forgot! There is one more DO for you, and it's extremely important!
DO click that Thanks button when someone posts a project or information that you find useful. We all want to know our efforts are appreciated, right? RIGHT?????? <<Taps his foot and looks pointedly at the Thanks button>>
Your post reminded me of Excel, of Excel Saga's fame. For that you carved a little nostalgia hole in my rocky heart.
That's going to be very useful, and you had me laughing for 10 mins with the bootloader thing
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Is the note five dead in here or still on the hunt for root
My understanding is that if you want root or unlocked bootloader, do NOT buy an AT&T device. The unlocked international version is capable of root and custom roms, from what I have read on the forums.
Yeah well I want to try to take a stab at it so point me were I can go to learn to mess with are I mean are only bootloader I have Kali liunx pc that's why I asked if there is a team working on any of this for note 5 if not I just want to do this for my self you guys do know we have oem unlock witch that is a good sign then you guys have found exploits to I have not upgraded to nugget I'm on mm how many years has it been since this phone been out like it was one said to me in another forum u can't expect someone to do it for u all I ask is you point me in the direction to mess with are bootloader only and also tackle knoxs my other ? Is can I downgrade I'm asking all these questions in one post because like I said I want to do this for me I'm learning wifi hacking and I want to learn Android cause iPhone sucks I have note 4 unlocked T-Mobile but the software sucks or meaning custom roms they have yes I know all att bootloader are locked dose not mean they can't be hacked u got to take effort on wanting to do it anyways I'm post pic of what I got I'm willing to put in work if I new were to start
Even googling stuff can help https://www.bestandroiddatarecovery.com/unlock-samsung-bootloader.html
I'm glad I'm just sending this phone back you guys are no help a bunch of wusses to me but what ever going to T-Mobile
Most of us couldn't understand what you wanted. Mainly because the only time you used any form of punctuation was when you were too damn lazy to type the word "question" and used a question mark instead.
But hey, since you already thanked us for nothing, then that's exactly what you'll get. Have a great time figuring it out on your own.
cwbcwb said:
Even googling stuff can help https://www.bestandroiddatarecovery.com/unlock-samsung-bootloader.html
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You know all of this is one big B.S.. I'm 100 % sure this will not work on At&t note 5
On Edge of Galaxy