For those of you who use Second Space. I want to use it plain as my guest mode with nothing really running in parallel. What will it do to the stellar battery life I'm enjoying now?
second space has the same battary and speed impact as using fdu encryption in android, if you already have your android encrypted the battary and performance impact will be the same
I have used second space for about 3 weeks and for me there was a significant impact on battery life. Without second space.. I can last a full day with moderate usage. With second space running and switching back and forth, my phone is usually out of juice at around 3-4pm, having started my day at 8am
I have used 2nd space for almost two years and never ran out of battery in a day. I charged around 11:30 pm and usually had about 32-60% remaining. Heavy GPS use could get me to about 20%. My usage is non-standard however. I use an ancient Blackberry 8100 for voice and text. I used data-only sims in the note 3 (snapdragon), no voice calls.
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I have used 2nd space for almost two years and never ran out of battery in a day. I charged around 11:30 pm and usually had about 32-60% remaining. Heavy GPS use could get me to about 20%. My usage is non-standard however. I use an ancient Blackberry 8100 for voice and text. I used data-only sims in the note 3 (snapdragon), no voice calls.
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You've mentioned a Blackberry and a Note 3. So what do you use the Mix2 for? Do you own a Mix2?
Oh, "Mi" bad. I missed that the question was for a specific phone. I made the assumption, unwarranted, that all Xiaomi phones would reflect similar behavior from running 2nd space. I also own a Mi 5s, but it eats battery so fast while doing little or nothing that I don't even take it out of the house. It has 2nd space active, but it was a poor performer before 2nd space. I think it is because of the Snapdragon 821. It's a sportscar that just can't slow down.
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Oh, "Mi" bad. I missed that the question was for a specific phone. I made the assumption, unwarranted, that all Xiaomi phones would reflect similar behavior from running 2nd space. I also own a Mi 5s, but it eats battery so fast while doing little or nothing that I don't even take it out of the house. It has 2nd space active, but it was a poor performer before 2nd space. I think it is because of the Snapdragon 821. It's a sportscar that just can't slow down.
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Interesting. That's the first I'm hearing of any Xiaomi phone having poor battery life. Thanks for the info on 2nd space.
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Interesting. That's the first I'm hearing of any Xiaomi phone having poor battery life. Thanks for the info on 2nd space.[/QUOTE
Your comment got me interested in digging a little further. The biggest battery drain was Chrome, even when I force quit Chrome and reboot. I finally can't uninstall it, but I did install Firefox and finally, I do not see Chrome taking huge amounts of power. I also turned on MIUI optimization, although it is hard to say from various postings if this is good or bad. Regardless, the battery is crying for a charge again already. I'm next going to load a CPU program to limit the top speed of the processors and see what effect that has. This is a great phone...if you keep it plugged in.
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Interesting. That's the first I'm hearing of any Xiaomi phone having poor battery life. Thanks for the info on 2nd space.[/QUOTE
Your comment got me interested in digging a little further. The biggest battery drain was Chrome, even when I force quit Chrome and reboot. I finally can't uninstall it, but I did install Firefox and finally, I do not see Chrome taking huge amounts of power. I also turned on MIUI optimization, although it is hard to say from various postings if this is good or bad. Regardless, the battery is crying for a charge again already. I'm next going to load a CPU program to limit the top speed of the processors and see what effect that has. This is a great phone...if you keep it plugged in.
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Your battery problem lies elsewhere and it's not the soc. The Mi 5s has very good battery life. Take a look at your setup and what apps you're running. By default miui kills all non-system apps. I suspect you have installed something that's misbehaving.
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Many people have reported symptoms identical to mine: very hot operating temperatures, very short battery life. Others have tried various MIUI versions, various non-stock ROM configurations, various power and app configurations, all to no avail. Very interestingly, two people have asserted the problem is the process running the fingerprint reader. One reported that the heat and battery problems ceased when the qualcomm biometric service was halted (not sure how that was accomplished). As for installation of misbehaving apps, this phone was this way out of the box. I literally do not use it for anything beyond running the Xiaomi vacuum, which in contrast to this phone sucks positively, and an ebay app. I stopped using Chrome a few days ago, because it showed high idle use, but still the battery life is very short. I have a Redmi Note 4 here which is at 48% battery as I write this. It was last charged on the 2nd of June. It has been sitting idle with only periodic use. During the same time period, the Mi5s has required many full charges.
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Your battery problem lies elsewhere and it's not the soc. The Mi 5s has very good battery life. Take a look at your setup and what apps you're running. By default miui kills all non-system apps. I suspect you have installed something that's misbehaving.
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Following on to my post above, which I should have included below your post, I dug up more information from xiaomi.eu and the miui forum by searching "qfp service battery drain" in google. One comment:" It's a well known fact that starting from 8.2 (on Mi5S) the qfp-service is preventing deep sleep and causing battery drain." But another posting disputes the version-related association: " I have a problem with my Mi5S with Xiaomi.eu 7.1.20 ROM. After few days of usage I noted a strange battery drain, especially when the phone is in idle. Looking for the reason of this drain I found that qfp-service (fingerprint sensor) is doing hundreds of wakelocks." Another interesting avenue of investigation: "A couple of friends with Chinese Dev ROM say that they haven't any problem with qfp-service and battery is awesome. I think the problem is with Xiaomi.eu ROM" The apparent best solution is this one: "new update now with a "final" solution. i just uninstalled the qualcomm qti biometrics fingerprint service completely with a root uninstaller. the cpu wakelocks stopped immediately, fingerprint sensor is still working fine."
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Many people have reported symptoms identical to mine: very hot operating temperatures, very short battery life. Others have tried various MIUI versions, various non-stock ROM configurations, various power and app configurations, all to no avail. Very interestingly, two people have asserted the problem is the process running the fingerprint reader. One reported that the heat and battery problems ceased when the qualcomm biometric service was halted (not sure how that was accomplished). As for installation of misbehaving apps, this phone was this way out of the box. I literally do not use it for anything beyond running the Xiaomi vacuum, which in contrast to this phone sucks positively, and an ebay app. I stopped using Chrome a few days ago, because it showed high idle use, but still the battery life is very short. I have a Redmi Note 4 here which is at 48% battery as I write this. It was last charged on the 2nd of June. It has been sitting idle with only periodic use. During the same time period, the Mi5s has required many full charges.
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Following on to my post above, which I should have included below your post, I dug up more information from xiaomi.eu and the miui forum by searching "qfp service battery drain" in google. One comment:" It's a well known fact that starting from 8.2 (on Mi5S) the qfp-service is preventing deep sleep and causing battery drain." But another posting disputes the version-related association: " I have a problem with my Mi5S with Xiaomi.eu 7.1.20 ROM. After few days of usage I noted a strange battery drain, especially when the phone is in idle. Looking for the reason of this drain I found that qfp-service (fingerprint sensor) is doing hundreds of wakelocks." Another interesting avenue of investigation: "A couple of friends with Chinese Dev ROM say that they haven't any problem with qfp-service and battery is awesome. I think the problem is with Xiaomi.eu ROM" The apparent best solution is this one: "new update now with a "final" solution. i just uninstalled the qualcomm qti biometrics fingerprint service completely with a root uninstaller. the cpu wakelocks stopped immediately, fingerprint sensor is still working fine."
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Thanks for the clarifications. First, I'm not a fan of custom roms as they tend to introduce more problems than they supposedly" solve", all for the sake of stock android.
I recall that when I first got my Redmi Note 3 Pro there was a wakelock or battery drain that puzzled me too. After doing some research I learned that there's a system app called xxxx. qualcomm.xxx (I can't remember the name exactly) that was causing it and could be disabled. Once I did that I was good to go.
My Note 3 came with a vendor rom and no matter how good a rom might be, it can never match the optimizations of the original. It's very possible that your phone came with a vendor rom as they were fond of selling them that way in order for gapps to work out of the box. My suggestion would be to put the latest original Miui9 on your phone and work from there. Personally I see no reason for custom roms because miui gives the user so much control over their phone anyway.
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Many people have reported symptoms identical to mine: very hot operating temperatures, very short battery life. Others have tried various MIUI versions, various non-stock ROM configurations, various power and app configurations, all to no avail. Very interestingly, two people have asserted the problem is the process running the fingerprint reader. One reported that the heat and battery problems ceased when the qualcomm biometric service was halted (not sure how that was accomplished). As for installation of misbehaving apps, this phone was this way out of the box. I literally do not use it for anything beyond running the Xiaomi vacuum, which in contrast to this phone sucks positively, and an ebay app. I stopped using Chrome a few days ago, because it showed high idle use, but still the battery life is very short. I have a Redmi Note 4 here which is at 48% battery as I write this. It was last charged on the 2nd of June. It has been sitting idle with only periodic use. During the same time period, the Mi5s has required many full charges.
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Thanks for the clarifications. First, I'm not a fan of custom roms as they tend to introduce more problems than they supposedly" solve", all for the sake of stock android.
I recall that when I first got my Redmi Note 3 Pro there was a wakelock or battery drain that puzzled me too. After doing some research I learned that there's a system app called xxxx. qualcomm.xxx (I can't remember the name exactly) that was causing it and could be disabled. Once I did that I was good to go.
My Note 3 came with a vendor rom and no matter how good a rom might be, it can never match the optimizations of the original. It's very possible that your phone came with a vendor rom as they were fond of selling them that way in order for gapps to work out of the box. My suggestion would be to put the latest original Miui9 on your phone and work from there. Personally I see no reason for custom roms because miui gives the user so much control over their phone anyway.
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That's a good point. The Mi5s has the latest over the air from Xiaomi, but maybe it's from the vendor? Never had any problem with the other three Xiaomi phones I have owned. I do like specialized roms a lot, but I like Second Space more. That's the only reason I have not put alternate builds, especially Revolution Remix, on the phones I've owned. I'm glad you have prompted me to look into the root cause (no pun intended) of this issue. Since removing the fingerprint password and not touching the fingerprint reader, the phone's power use after rebooting has gone way, way, way, WAY down. Maybe. I'm looking at 228mah current drain, which is nothing. I'm going to take the phone out on a walk today and see how it does. If It is "fixed", then I will look at rooting it just to get rid of the Qualcomm module so that I can use the fingerprint reader without draining the battery. I really do not want to unlock the bootloader, but it seems there is no choice in order to get root.
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I know, our device has really great battery life and I don't have anything to complain about that, but a friend of mine just got himself a new phone and his values make me a bit jealous and most of all: surprised and stunned.
He got himself a Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 (SD 625 variant, MKT variant really sucks), it has the same processor, same display and not even 700 mAh more (4100 mAh) and he got with some "dev rom" (made by Xiaomi, seems to just be the beta of that ugly MIUI 9, based on Andorid 7.0) 6h of SOT, doze seems to haven't really kicked in in that time. in their forum in the SOT thread I see people getting normally about 8-10 with up to over 12 h of SOT, most of them on stock ROM without any additions. And I'm quite irritated about that huge of a difference with not that much more battery. And he seems quite convinced that it's not on the cost of performance, you should notice that quickly on such a heavily skinned ROM.
Now my question is: how in hell is that even possible? I mean our devices seem quite comparablewith just a slight bump in battery but near-stock AOSP Android against pretty much an iOS clone. Does anyone have any idea what could cause that big of a difference? And if it's software based could that be done on our device? Because my experience and from different posts our device lasts about 5-6 h normally.
I mean I'm already lucky about my 2 days of usage with up to about 2.5 days on some weekends where I have a lot of stuff to do. But I wouldn't mind a bit of extra. But my biggest problem with that is as simple as: how? I could really use some explaination right now...
I don't have issues with device.. stock 7.1.1 with dec.patch, unlocked bootloader, with latest magisk. Also installed greenify.
Then you are one of very rare cases. My experience is about half of that.
And I also meant on stock ROM, without any modifications. So I don't know which apps you greenified, but that was not the point. I use Greenify too but more for apps that aren't supposed to run constantly in background when I only use it very seldomly.
The norm for this phone is 8+ hours SOT. Sometimes I get 10 and a few have had up to 12. Unless you're gaming 8 should be easy. 5 hours means something is wrong with your phone hardware, you have a rogue battery eating app or you're gaming. I rarely charge my phone over the weekend even when I use it a lot.
Well, neither of that is the case and I rarely see people claiming more than 6h of SOT
So the answer to your question is, it's the wrong question. The question should be, why does my battery not last very long and what apps or usage causes me to have such poor battery life? Compared to the Redmi Note 4 the Z Play is exactly where it should be.
Here's a link to the SOT thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z-play/review/screen-time-t3643959
gsmarena battery life test 100h endurance rating: https://www.gsmarena.com/battery-test.php3?idPhone=8310#show
Here's an app to help diagnose battery condition (Accubattery): https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.digibites.accubattery&hl=en
also betterbatterystats is really helpful.
I sincerely hope you get it sorted out!
Well, gsam isn't detecting any app that's off even with root so I don't think there is any. I installed that AccuBattery app, let's see what it has to say
Removed because of ****ty q&a system...
Oh, and another thing I noticed: I get very randomly reboots, and every time the battery percentage drops massively. Just had a 30% drop. And after the reboot the battery percentage seems like frozen. Now I rebooted and plugged in the cable and got 44% again... No fast charging. Do that detection seems very off
Motorola forum isn't helpful at all. Clearing cache and dalvik didn't change anything and running around for a week in secure mode (that's how random they mostly are) or even doing a factory reset without restoring apps is out of question for obvious reasons.
That's pretty weird. Did you try a factory reset and after restore your apps? There's not a lot you can do if you're not rooted, but you shouldn't need to do much anyway on stock rom.
Only other option is full RSD lite OS restore as a last resort.
I am rooted for long, that's why I use Greenify. I know it also works without but then it's a joke. As RSD lite is, it just refuses for everyone to detect anything on Windows 10.
Factory reset is out of question for the moment, it takes way too long to do it properly (with titanium and NANDroid backup first) and I won't have that much time probably for the whole of this month. Otherwise I would most likely already have went off to the next best custom ROM since Motorola just can't get their **** together and still work on 8.0 in test for 2.5 month with searching testers for another one.
I think the next thing I'll do is to try the good old battery calibration, just have to find the file storing the statistics. I know many say that won't work but that's rubbish, it worked for me already a few times
Update: no, no change. Don't know if that funky battery percentage bug on random reboots still happen since I haven't had any again yet, but they come too random and unpredictable.
And that AccuBattery just proves to be worthless. It tries to estimate the rest capacity, but then it even fails to detect original capacity by 500 mAh. The battery sucker stats are also unrealistic. It puts chrome first with 10%, while GSam with root puts it 5th at 4.6% after kernel, Spotify, Android system and fight services. Android itself even puts it 9th with screen, phone idle, cell standby, Android OS and Bluetooth in-between.
So let's see what happens first. Motorola releasing 8.0, which I will flash through the .xml.zip, this time using flashfile.xml which should force a factory reset... Or me finding the time to switch to a custom ROM
Edit: so I got another one, bit this time no crazy battery drop. But the other times I killed of the soft reboot sequence because Magisk can have some problems with that. This time I didn't
Yesterday I was finally able to do the factory reset since those darn random reboots became too annoying and Moto's support is had just the most ridiculous ideas... In the worst way.
Either way, now OTA looks better, let's see how it will turn out in the next days
hello there, been following this forum for ages, and a owner of a htc 10 for two weeks....
But I have a big problem....... the battery.....It really is abysmal......
I am currently on LeeDroid oreo, but have tried other roms, and come to the conclusion, the battery sucks!
I know there are kernal tweaks, but with this phone, i just like running the basic custom rom, no bells and whistles......
i am s-off and know how to downgrade/sort signal out/CID/ADB and everything, but I am reluctant to go too far back (Although I do like marshmallow)
I know on other phones, that going back to a previous firmware...sometimes improves the battery
but will it improve my battery????????
I went from Oreo to Nougat. Battery much improved. I was running pure stock rooted. No other mods on Nougat. Took a day to settle, but I could finally leave the house not worrying if I needed to carry a USB cable with me for a charge.
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I went from Oreo to Nougat. Battery much improved. I was running pure stock rooted. No other mods on Nougat. Took a day to settle, but I could finally leave the house not worrying if I needed to carry a USB cable with me for a charge.
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And overnight, do you notice any abnormal discharge? As much as 25/30%? or less?
I have this much of a discharge on nougat and on oreo... Did not noticed much of a difference on both FW tbh... As i bought this phone 2nd hand about a month ago, it was already on N and never tested it on MM to tell if there is any difference.
Our luck is the fast charge capability this phone has...
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And overnight, do you notice any abnormal discharge? As much as 25/30%? or less?
I have this much of a discharge on nougat and on oreo... Did not noticed much of a difference on both FW tbh... As i bought this phone 2nd hand about a month ago, it was already on N and never tested it on MM to tell if there is any difference.
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No, maybe like 2 - 3% at most overnight.
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No, maybe like 2 - 3% at most overnight.
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And you had battery problems before the downgrade?
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I would say so, yes I had problems. I bought this phone 2nd hand as well. A mint Red one. Pristine condition - at least in appearance. I also have/coming from a daily driver LG V20. Which also uses same 820 chipset. So I had some kind of expectation as to what battery life around. I was kind of shocked how bad the battery was on the 10. Phone was dropping like maybe 20% overnight. In the daytime on stock before I rooted I was getting maybe 1.5 - 2 SOT hours depending on use(i'm not a heavy gamer). I had never experienced such bad battery life before on an HTC phone. I unlocked it/rooted it and started playing with mods. The most success I had was with the Helix engine. I also had some Magisk modules installed to help deep sleep. Probably improved to getting 3 - 3.5 hours SOT. There is a thread dedicated to getting better battery life on Oreo in the guides section and I'd follow that thread and try various things. Also I had done the HTC calibration a few times, and the HTC battery test just to get a sense of the battery's health. In their test, I scored an 85, so I'd say the battery was OK. Not in the area of being a replacement.
But in the end, I was curious to go back to Nougat and then maybe on to Marshmallow to see how battery life would be. Simply going down to Nougat, I was satisfied. Not quite as good as my LG V20, but close enough. Don't feel the need to go down to marshmallow for it.
Maybe in the future I'll go back to Oreo on the 10, but for the most part, Nougat is fine.
From what I've read as well, HTC sort of 'unleashed' the power of the 820 chipset in Nougat, therefore when people went from Marshmallow to Nougat they reported worst battery life but improved performance especially in gaming.
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I would say so, yes I had problems. I bought this phone 2nd hand as well. A mint Red one. Pristine condition - at least in appearance. I also have/coming from a daily driver LG V20. Which also uses same 820 chipset. So I had some kind of expectation as to what battery life around. I was kind of shocked how bad the battery was on the 10. Phone was dropping like maybe 20% overnight. In the daytime on stock before I rooted I was getting maybe 1.5 - 2 SOT hours depending on use(i'm not a heavy gamer). I had never experienced such bad battery life before on an HTC phone. I unlocked it/rooted it and started playing with mods. The most success I had was with the Helix engine. I also had some Magisk modules installed to help deep sleep. Probably improved to getting 3 - 3.5 hours SOT. There is a thread dedicated to getting better battery life on Oreo in the guides section and I'd follow that thread and try various things. Also I had done the HTC calibration a few times, and the HTC battery test just to get a sense of the battery's health. In their test, I scored an 85, so I'd say the battery was OK. Not in the area of being a replacement.
But in the end, I was curious to go back to Nougat and then maybe on to Marshmallow to see how battery life would be. Simply going down to Nougat, I was satisfied. Not quite as good as my LG V20, but close enough. Don't feel the need to go down to marshmallow for it.
Maybe in the future I'll go back to Oreo on the 10, but for the most part, Nougat is fine.
From what I've read as well, HTC sort of 'unleashed' the power of the 820 chipset in Nougat, therefore when people went from Marshmallow to Nougat they reported worst battery life but improved performance especially in gaming.
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Im aware on the unleashed power htc did on N, but it just don't justify the amount of energy drained. It does not make sense to remove social or other apps from background just because you need to retain battery. Still have a one M7 and the battery still is way better than this htc, with all the apps and settings i need on both, almost a clone of my m7. Im no gamer at all, and don't use whatsup, viber, FB, g+ etc.
You are saying that just by returning from Oero to Nougat, your htc 10 battery got less discharge, like it got fixed? without any mod's?
Thanks for your time to answer me!
Yeah, for me moving back to Nougat fixed my drain problems. Keep in mind, I didn't own the phone before Oreo, so I can't say what it was like pre oreo. But I finally felt comfortable with the performance/battery life I was getting on Nougat. I can't say this will work for you, but others have reported the same. Moving back to Nougat improved battery life.
Before you do it, I'd advise to rule out a hardware problem though to save the aggrivation of downgrading. Do the HTC battery test. If you fall below 70% in the test after an hour, I'd say it might be more hardware related than software.
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Yeah, for me moving back to Nougat fixed my drain problems. Keep in mind, I didn't own the phone before Oreo, so I can't say what it was like pre oreo. But I finally felt comfortable with the performance/battery life I was getting on Nougat. I can't say this will work for you, but others have reported the same. Moving back to Nougat improved battery life.
Before you do it, I'd advise to rule out a hardware problem though to save the aggrivation of downgrading. Do the HTC battery test. If you fall below 70% in the test after an hour, I'd say it might be more hardware related than software.
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Good morning.
Wile i was chating with you (yesterday), finally used the htc battery test and to my surprise it went from 99% to 88% in that hour test (99 because it was off and spent that ~1% booting). So, hopefully, will experience the same as the most of you who made the downgrade.
Perhaps its some part on the process of downgrading that fixes something, maybe the format of the [persist] partition one have to wipe to recover access to the baseband (thus the imei) repairs something, a kind of file system error that makes the android system use a lot of power(?).
As i told before, if do mobile repair and to this day, after several hundred of phone fix (hard and software, various brands as lg, samsung, htc,, iDeveices and china phones, never seen this type of problem unless it was hardware problems like pmic (power management IC) due to use of bad chargers / bad cables, water damage, drop damage, etc. Got this 10 and as soon i got here (xda) immediately noticed the amount of people that had the very same problem. And we are (here on xda) just a few to the many thousands of 10 owners around the globe that don't use xda or any other forums to talk about this problem.
Going to do this downgrade today. Im eager to see the result and use my 10 finally (another agnostic hope :angel!!
Thanks!
I have my device maybe some less than 2 years.. and the battery dont good...
I check in the settings and dont have any app that drain my battery.
But If I replace it my device dont waterproof again?
My battery life is also terrible. I believe it to be the latest updates as the first beta release of android 10 the battery life was amazing
So it because the updates?
bad company
I believe so. They make battery life bad so you upgrade to a new phone. I have 5 year old iphones with better battery life than s9. Terrible company.
I did not notice any drastic change in battery life after the Android 10 upgrade. However, you've likely had the phone for around 2 years - probably charging it every day. These types of batteries start to degrade after ~500 charge cycles.
Use this app as a way to understand your battery's health: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.vndnguyen.phoneinfo
More info here: https://www.reddit.com/r/GalaxyS9/comments/8vgp76/how_has_your_s99_fared_so_far_in_terms_of_battery/
You may want to consider having the battery changed. Samsung Experience stores charge $50 for the new battery (including installation), and most other Samsung certified repair shops (in the US) seem to charge around that price as well.
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I did not notice any drastic change in battery life after the Android 10 upgrade. However, you've likely had the phone for around 2 years - probably charging it every day. These types of batteries start to degrade after ~500 charge cycles.
Use this app as a way to understand your battery's health: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.vndnguyen.phoneinfo
More info here: https://www.reddit.com/r/GalaxyS9/comments/8vgp76/how_has_your_s99_fared_so_far_in_terms_of_battery/
You may want to consider having the battery changed. Samsung Experience stores charge $50 for the new battery (including installation), and most other Samsung certified repair shops (in the US) seem to charge around that price as well.
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I think it was started before the android 10 update..
In this app I cant see the health... I need root..
It was recommend to buy new one and replace?
I think it was better to buy mid-phones anything because it was better with battery life for years
Hmm.. I see that the health indicator (which was an estimate I suppose) is no longer listed in the app. How many Battery Discharge Cycles do you have listed? (listed under "Personal")
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Hmm.. I see that the health indicator (which was an estimate I suppose) is no longer listed in the app. How many Battery Discharge Cycles do you have listed? (listed under "Personal")
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Didnt show.. I need root for this
I'd just change it.
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But It doesnt waterproof again.
and the glass back can be broken.
It seems to be the exynos versions with the problem what i can gather. I am in the u.k with exynos. Snapdragon chips are much better in these devices so i am led to believe
So what to do?
maybe wipe?
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It seems to be the exynos versions with the problem what i can gather. I am in the u.k with exynos. Snapdragon chips are much better in these devices so i am led to believe
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I don't have a exy but I got a g9650 unlocked bl snap. Yesterday alone latest update I got 4.8 hours sot with 50% left at bed time so I can say the latest update is doing awesome on my 2 year old device with the orig battery
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I believe so. They make battery life bad so you upgrade to a new phone. I have 5 year old iphones with better battery life than s9. Terrible company.
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Of course you're joking. My friend's iPhone 6 can't even last for 2 hours !
My Exynos S9's battery life isn't great either (I've been using it for 2 years), it's just on par with iPhone X's battery life. I still get 8 to 10 hours of use with 3 hours of screen on time which isn't terrible. I should tell you that I use my phone too much when it's charging and sometimes I use it heavily, and all of this leads to heating which has a big impact on battery life, so your battery should last more if you aren't a heavy user.
saarxee said:
So it because the updates?
bad company
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But It doesnt waterproof again.
and the glass back can be broken.
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jamil aboudaher said:
Of course you're joking. My friend's iPhone 6 can't even last for 2 hours !
My Exynos S9's battery life isn't great either (I've been using it for 2 years), it's just on par with iPhone X's battery life. I still get 8 to 10 hours of use with 3 hours of screen on time which isn't terrible. I should tell you that I use my phone too much when it's charging and sometimes I use it heavily, and all of this leads to heating which has a big impact on battery life, so your battery should last more if you aren't a heavy user.
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Am not actually joking. I have an iphone 7 in my household which lasts alot longer than my s9.
I get around 2-3 hours on time which is the same as you which i believe is actually terrible. When i first bought this phone i could play on it for hours on end and it would still last till the end of the day. Now i have to avoid going on it as i know it will kill the battery after 2-3 hours. This was brilliant on android oreo when i first bought the phone, ever since its first update it has been ridiculous. I signed up to beta test android 10 and the first ever beta that was released the battery life was amazing. It was like it was brand new again and i could use it all day long without it killing the battery. As they kept the updates coming it kept getting worse until they released the stable version and its been terrible again ever since.
I believe it to be software related as some batteries can last a lifetime, i have lots of chargeable items around the house which i have had for years and they are still as good as they where when i first bought them. I also believe the exynos is worse than the snapdragon. I don't know why but maybe someone will.
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So what to do?
maybe wipe?
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It is an option, but i would only be inclined to do this if somebody can confirm it will improve. I however doubt it will. I found changing the power setting from high performance to optimised mode made the battery life a bit better, however it defeats the object of having an s9 and not running at a setting it is designed to.
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Am not actually joking. I have an iphone 7 in my household which lasts alot longer than my s9.
I get around 2-3 hours on time which is the same as you which i believe is actually terrible. When i first bought this phone i could play on it for hours on end and it would still last till the end of the day. Now i have to avoid going on it as i know it will kill the battery after 2-3 hours. This was brilliant on android oreo when i first bought the phone, ever since its first update it has been ridiculous. I signed up to beta test android 10 and the first ever beta that was released the battery life was amazing. It was like it was brand new again and i could use it all day long without it killing the battery. As they kept the updates coming it kept getting worse until they released the stable version and its been terrible again ever since.
I believe it to be software related as some batteries can last a lifetime, i have lots of chargeable items around the house which i have had for years and they are still as good as they where when i first bought them. I also believe the exynos is worse than the snapdragon. I don't know why but maybe someone will.
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It is an option, but i would only be inclined to do this if somebody can confirm it will improve. I however doubt it will. I found changing the power setting from high performance to optimised mode made the battery life a bit better, however it defeats the object of having an s9 and not running at a setting it is designed to.
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Yea snapdragon is a bit better. And I agree on many things around the house. Still work good. Maybe try an older version of bit nber on your bootloader. An older update if you can
So, i was on V3.15
I got update notification of V3.18 (3.7gb?)
I clicked.
My phone battery was behaving normal, calibrated and charge current speed 5200mAh.
I upgraded to V3.18 and booom, charge current shows always half of the value.
But it charges still 5200mAh but device thinks the input current is 2500-2600mAh.
My phone is EU variant. 16/256 Ghost Edition.
I downgraded to V3.15 (yes i lost data) and problem solved. I upgraded again to V3.18 and hello, problem is back!
This causes battery to be miscalibrated.
For over a week using this update and it still persists, it did not settle down.
So now when my battery hits 18% and i charge and it hits 56%, then its not 56% but in fact, its ~80%.
Charging while phone is fully shutdown is same too. It seems like the kernel is giving false info to device. So when phone system reads 2600mAh it moves percentage by that. So when this happens it thinks it charges alow and raises percentage slow accordingly too but in fact it still charges full speed.
Anyone else experiencing this issue? Using original cable and charge adapter.
Been sending video recordings/screenshots and 8min long of video of me talking/shutting down system/rebooting but the customer service denies to admit they messed up V3.18 charging parameters. They refuse.
So tell me. Who else is experiencing this issue?
It only happens on newest OS update (NX669S_EUCommon_V3.18).
So please, if you experience same issue, write it down here and contact customer service and give them link to this thread.
Raise awareness. I fresh installed V3.18 and it still happens! Wiped data, still happens!
Not normal!
Been using this update over a week with no luck.
Greetings, I am in the exact same situation like you with the latest EU update. Just created my account to post here, since I was browsing around the web searching for eventual fix for this issue. Sadly, I am unable to downgrade to the previous version and this is driving me crazy.
Can you suggest me a way to downgrade? (there is no factory reset option, nor wiping partition in boot mode works)
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Greetings, I am in the exact same situation like you with the latest EU update. Just created my account to post here, since I was browsing around the web searching for eventual fix for this issue. Sadly, I am unable to downgrade to the previous version and this is driving me crazy.
Can you suggest me a way to downgrade?
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You cant downgrade, if you do you will lose all data on phone with downgraded version.
The customer support i exchanged 15emails or so and they simply dont admit its their mistake. They just fool with me.
My belief is they intentionally try to ruin our battery to go for the new redmagic 7 device.
They even "overcharge" our phone. My phone alerted me at 74% (overvoltage battery charge stops). Voltage on battery raised up to 4.5voltage because battery charges still fast at 95-99% even tho phone thinks its at 74%.
But no, this Nubia company denies to admit their mistake with my proofs and tests.
Their technical team doesnt even check.
I mean they just need to put this update in their device and then charge from ~20% to 100% and they will see it.
We need more people gathering here up and to make our voice be heard. Come on guys everyone please stand up!
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You cant downgrade, if you do you will lose all data on phone with downgraded version.
The customer support i exchanged 15emails or so and they simply dont admit its their mistake. They just fool with me.
My belief is they intentionally try to ruin our battery to go for the new redmagic 7 device.
They even "overcharge" our phone. My phone alerted me at 74% (overvoltage battery charge stops). Voltage on battery raised up to 4.5voltage because battery charges still fast at 95-99% even tho phone thinks its at 74%.
But no, this ******* company denies to admit their mistake with my proofs and tests.
We need more people gathering here up and to make our voice be heard. Come on guys everyone please stand up!
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I can cofirm the same voltage warning as well. This is really worrisome. I am fine losing all my data, just want to downgrade to safest version
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I can cofirm the same voltage warning as well. This is really worrisome. I am fine losing all my data, just want to downgrade to safest version
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https://help.redmagic.gg/hc/en-us/articles/4412024271001-REDMAGIC-6S-Pro
3.15 is the previous one we had before this bug arised.
I flashed 3.15 lost all data, then upgraded problem came back at 3.18.
But on 3.15 there isnt any.
Posted to their support with a link to the thread as well, we will search our rights if this is intentional with the release of RM7...
I also noticed, the cpu 4 main cores get stuck at 100% sometimes (for 20min or 1-2hours) causing huge heat build-up and extra high battery usage.
Sometimes it fixes itself and then quickly comes again stuck at 100%.
Only way to fix it is by rebooting phone.
Really sucks. When this happens, and you charge phone and play with charge separation, the phone goes very high temperature.
This is gaming phone? With problems?
Their kernel is bad. Their developers just DONT put effort. they cant release a simple normal clean kernel... I swear, if they dont fix these issues i will for sure go back to OnePlus as my next device, i had no such issue....
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I also noticed, the cpu 4 main cores get stuck at 100% sometimes (for 20min or 1-2hours) causing huge heat build-up and extra high battery usage.
Sometimes it fixes itself and then quickly comes again stuck at 100%.
Only way to fix it is by rebooting phone.
Really sucks. When this happens, and you charge phone and play with charge separation, the phone goes very high temperature.
This is gaming phone? With problems?
Their kernel is bad. Their developers just DONT put effort. they cant release a simple normal clean kernel... I swear, if they dont fix these issues i will for sure go back to OnePlus as my next device, i had no such issue....
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They better release a proper update soon, I was wondering why the hell we had an update of almost 4GB without any concrete patch notes, neither new android ... now I understand why ...
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They better release a proper update soon, I was wondering why the hell we had an update of almost 4GB without any concrete patch notes, neither new android ... now I understand why ...
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This stuck cpu issue been since initial release for months.
Sometimes dont u notice battery heats alot way more than before while doing same thing?
At times its 37c and then at times hits 40c.
Fun thing is when i plug charger it suddenly shows my battery is fallin from 39c to 35c.
Zzz this company and device, probably my first and last redmagic device.
Big regret...
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This stuck cpu issue been since initial release for months.
Sometimes dont u notice battery heats alot way more than before while doing same thing?
At times its 37c and then at times hits 40c.
Fun thing is when i plug charger it suddenly shows my battery is fallin from 39c to 35c.
Zzz this company and device, probably my first and last redmagic device.
Big regret...
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I have noticed some spikes in my battery indeed, just didn't do deep digging as you did. I will definitely pay closer attention to this strange behavior from now on ... starting to get even more worried now
It wasnt like this before.
Now it just loves to stay there.
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I have noticed some spikes in my battery indeed, just didn't do deep digging as you did. I will definitely pay closer attention to this strange behavior from now on ... starting to get even more worried now
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There is hope
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There is hope
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Thanks for the update. I am still waiting response. /pray
Still didnt receive any update.
I got the following:
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I got the following:
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We have to wait.
Im regularly checking manually update through the app.
I noticed something.
Sometimes i see CPU is very aggresively piking to 100% the first 0-3 cores (4 cores).
Its the small cores maxing to 100% frequency very often.
But at other times it doesnt and i noticed. When it doesnt spike to 100% alot, the phone is battery friendly and doesnt heat alot even during charge, but at random moment this gets triggered and cpu becomes super aggresive for NO REASON!
This is SUPER frustrating!
Very poorly optimized phone, i will definitely not buy a RedMagic phone ever again.
My next device simply OnePlus back.
Im VERY disappointed in RedMagic... Gaming phone? Really?
Nice joke.
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We have to wait.
Im regularly checking manually update through the app.
I noticed something.
Sometimes i see CPU is very aggresively piking to 100% the first 0-3 cores (4 cores).
Its the small cores maxing to 100% frequency very often.
But at other times it doesnt and i noticed. When it doesnt spike to 100% alot, the phone is battery friendly and doesnt heat alot even during charge, but at random moment this gets triggered and cpu becomes super aggresive for NO REASON!
This is SUPER frustrating!
Very poorly optimized phone, i will definitely not buy a RedMagic phone ever again.
My next device simply OnePlus back.
Im VERY disappointed in RedMagic... Gaming phone? Really?
Nice joke.
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I noticed the peeks too... Very disappointed as well...
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I noticed the peeks too... Very disappointed as well...
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The video fixes the stuck cpu parameters 80% of time.
It seems like an issue lying down in the phone OS.
RedMagic Gaming phone? Hah! CONSUMER NEEDS TO POINT THESE BASIC ISSUES? What is this
Even a 200$ phone doesnt have such issues.
The video is proof of the issue being unnecesarily running 4 cores at full peak and load.
Causing unnecesary heat buildup and battery drain.
I just got the following answer from their support:
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I just got the following answer from their support: View attachment 5566221
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What is that english i dont get it.
This device so disappointing....
I swear people that reviews these gaming devices are retards.
I'm on Android 13 and was hoping this would sort out the overheating problem I had with Android 12 (I read in a few places that it would), but it did not. The phone gets very warm when charging, and hot when streaming video, and just generally through simple use, nothing particularly demanding. I haven't rooted this phone because I did not see the need, but I would consider it if it was the only way to fix the problem. Is anyone experiencing the same, and does anyone have a solution?
I could be wrong but generally speaking in my experience, going from one major upgrade to another the phone works a bit harder to re-train itself to your use patterns. I just did my upgrade yesterday and experienced some slight to moderate heat as well. I also noticed that battery is draining a bit faster which I think again is part of the process. I'm going to give it a week or so and if I'm right it should improve.
I'm biased because I've had my Pixel 6 Pro rooted (and updated every month) since last November, and I also use Kirisakura custom kernel with its companion apps and currently have the one app set to the maximum battery savings.
So I can't really compare to 100% stock unrooted with the stock kernel, as I'm only briefly on the stock unrooted kernel each month after I manually flash the latest update.
Several others have commented, and I've experienced too, that with Android 13, we've no longer experienced as severe higher temperatures when charging. I don't remember if the others were rooted and using the same custom kernel, or if these were general Android 13 comments, so your mileage may vary. Sorry I can't give you any more concrete information.
Good luck!
Granted this is for my 4a5g but I wouln't be suprised if/when I get a 6 that its battery performance would be less than stellar after a good days use of phone and/or screen and radio/network. i.e. stock. Before I went to Lineage on my 4a5g I think my battery would cut a good 30-50+ percent each day. I put lineage on it and I poop you not, can go from a 75% to around 20% in about 5-6+ days. I tend to have my screen brightness around a little less than 1/4th on the slider bar.
When I had an HTC M8, after around 2 or so years (this was around 2016/7 or so. got phone oct '14) on the stock firmware the phone couln't keep it on for more than a day. Ran ViperRom for a bit then switched to cm/lineage and that stretched my usability of the phone another 5 years. It got to the point where the phone would shut off when it got to around %50 charge and go ding dong and turn off--without pluggin it in I had about 8 hours run time on it. My battery was beyond gone and no way would I have gotten that usability on the stock rom.
So, to answer your question, yes, trying different roms and kernels (rooting) could be to your advantage to prolong the life and performance of your phone.
Even if you choose to run the stock OS, with root, you could disble any bloat running in background. Kill any programs/services leeching CPU (and hence battery) cycles. You could definately make it run more efficient for YOU. Maybe not for the next guy who needs his facebook, twitter, ticktok apis and stuff loaded and at the ready. Everyone is different. But they tend to make the phones (they think) for everyone. in mind and as a result, device performance and lifespan become affected.
I definitely have heating issues and this is on a warranty exchange. The 2 previous P6Ps had all the same issues as this current device.
My phone was hot on A12 (41/45°) and since i clean flashed A13 and wiped it is cold (32/35°) for the same usage.
Greetings.
Good topic.
I have bought this phone a day before. I'm facing device heating even under simple tasks like scrolling messengers, browsing etc.
Previously I had OnePlus 7 Pro (Snapdragon 855), that one was cold all time except while charging or playing games.
However, Pixel looks warm or even hot even upon light using.
I'm a bit confused about that.
Is it a common problem of this device? Or probably exactly my device is affected?
I haven't faced overheating or alerts about that, however, it feels hot for my hands that got used to feel a cold phone while low load.
Currently, I have about 37-38 degrees while browsing on XDA and writing this post.
Just wondering that digits you have?
I did a warranty exchange on my P6P for a different issue and I'm glad I did. My replacement device has much better thermals than my original. My original one would get quite hot while charging and restoring apps and was almost uncomfortable to hold and to the touch. Could always try a warranty exchange and see if the replacement device is better for you. Also, Kiri kernel has been reported to help with the thermals. I've seen several reports of users commenting that their device runs cooler. Good luck!
I had heating issues and battery issues when I first received my P6P. Once I got it out of the box, I set it up and restored backups, rooted it, updated to android 13 without wiping, rooted again, and then flashed the Kirisakura kernel. I decided to try and flash android 13 again but keeping the -w flag to wipe userdata and didnt restore my backups and I've had amazing battery life and no overheating. If you haven't yet, try doing a factory reset. As simple as it sounds it may very well help
My fully stock P6P (on A12) gave an overheat warning yesterday while we were having a day out, it was only 22°C although we were in and out of the sun as the clouds rolled by but the phone was showing 46°C after being sat in my pocket.
I think Google have released the worlds hottest running phone, i have never owned a phone that heats up so much and so fast.
MrBelter said:
I think Google have released the worlds hottest running phone, i have never owned a phone that heats up so much and so fast.
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Try OnePlus 9 Pro
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Try OnePlus 9 Pro
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Thing is I have never experienced overheating on any phone (that i have owned) in UK before, using an Exynos as the basis of Tensor and then whacking an extra big core in it was a pretty bad idea unless you live in a fridge.