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Audio fans- Suggest waiting for 3.5mm jack version

Seems like everyone but the first runners and (Tmo) are getting the version with a 3.5mm jack. I think Tmo will also get this version too once they bleed out stock. My guess is the next production runs of TP2's will have the jack for Tmo.
Makes sense from a production standpoint in regards to sub-assemblies. HTC's decision to finally bail on usb audio happened during TP2 production.

rushless said:
Seems like everyone but the first runners and (Tmo) are getting the version with a 3.5mm jack. I think Tmo will also get this version too once they bleed out stock. My guess is the next production runs of TP2's will have the jack for Tmo.
Makes sense from a production standpoint in regards to sub-assemblies. HTC's decision to finally bail on usb audio happened during TP2 production.
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Eh, I'll just get my 1st gen TP2 replaced under warranty or something when the new 3.5mm one comes out for T-Mobile. Until then, I'll be perfectly happy with what I have.

I really don't get this whole 3.5 debacle. HTC has been making devices with their proprietery USB audio connection for years. All of a sudden some high profile blog sites start clammering for 3.5 and everyone feels they cant live without a 3.5mm headphone jack.
I'm not trying to rant; I rarely use my phone for audio since I have a Zune. Could someone please explain to me why this is such a big deal. They way I see it, if you are buying a WinMo phone purely to listen to music you are wasting your money.

alabij said:
I really don't get this whole 3.5 debacle. HTC has been making devices with their proprietery USB audio connection for years. All of a sudden some high profile blog sites start clammering for 3.5 and everyone feels they cant live without a 3.5mm headphone jack.
I'm not trying to rant; I rarely use my phone for audio since I have a Zune. Could someone please explain to me why this is such a big deal. They way I see it, if you are buying a WinMo phone purely to listen to music you are wasting your money.
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Just because you listen to music on your Ipod or whatever mp3 player you have doesn't mean that we all should do the same. On a side note, I think everyone has the right to spend on things they want.

CraZyLiLbOy said:
Just because you listen to music on your Ipod or whatever mp3 player you have doesn't mean that we all should do the same. On a side note, I think everyone has the right to spend on things they want.
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That's why I clearly said "The way I see it", as 'in my opinion'. Not everything should turn out to be a debate.

Got a USB/3.5 converter
Got an adapter here "http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=370242796364&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT" for $3.94...Tj

My biggest reason for wanting a separate headphone jack is so you can plug your headphones in at the same time as a power cable, so you can listen to your MP3s on power while keeping the battery fully charged.
Andre

andrewilley said:
My biggest reason for wanting a separate headphone jack is so you can plug your headphones in at the same time as a power cable, so you can listen to your MP3s on power while keeping the battery fully charged.
Andre
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Ahh good point ...Tj

andrewilley said:
My biggest reason for wanting a separate headphone jack is so you can plug your headphones in at the same time as a power cable, so you can listen to your MP3s on power while keeping the battery fully charged.
Andre
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What about A2DP ?

dik23 said:
What about A2DP ?
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Doesn't work if you want to listen to the FM radio

does anyone know if mobilephonesdirect.co.uk are now shipping tp2's with the audio jack yet?

alabij said:
I really don't get this whole 3.5 debacle. HTC has been making devices with their proprietery USB audio connection for years. All of a sudden some high profile blog sites start clammering for 3.5 and everyone feels they cant live without a 3.5mm headphone jack.
I'm not trying to rant; I rarely use my phone for audio since I have a Zune. Could someone please explain to me why this is such a big deal. They way I see it, if you are buying a WinMo phone purely to listen to music you are wasting your money.
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I have to carry a cell phone. I need to carry a PDA. I want to carry a music player.
I don't want to carry more than one device and besides, wearing more than one headset at a time makes me look strange.
S

That's why A2DP is soo great. I love using it especially since cables always die out on me. My headphone jacks used to get caught on whatever and I'd be buying a new set of headphones for my discman back in the day at least once a month (one month I actually ended up buying three pairs). Which is why I don't care about the 3.5mm jack.

well .. first off bluetooths great but i get iffy reception sometimes when attached to my body lol and of course the sounds not great good but not great... also i personally did not buy this phone just for music because then ide get a feature phone .. but i love music and require it a standard in a 600$ phone. second you can use the adapter but.. it sticks out of your pocket and when you whip the thing out youve got this glorious phone with a hideous alien brick sticking straight out the side ... and last note... in my experience with any form of mini usb, it wears down and pretty qick dep. on usage .. if i constantly plug in and disconnect for charging and syncing thats bad enough but many many times a day when you using headphones and this usb port will be lose in a few months where you haver to wiggle it to make it work . this happened on my kaiser, mogul and a blackberry i had (on kaiser i had to eventually use a piece of folded tinfoil in the port just to get it to charge under a year old..) ... on topic- i really hope us t mobile users can eventually get a 3.5 mm like through warranty/insurance because i am PINING for it! lol

takeda240 said:
. . . . . on topic- i really hope us t mobile users can eventually get a 3.5 mm like through warranty/insurance because i am PINING for it! lol
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Wow! If everyone is planning on replacing their TP2 on warranty then it might make monetary sense for T-Mob to stick to only the USB versions. wow! wow! wow!

Sure, you get a built-in headphone jack, however, from what I read online, CDMA versions will not allow phonecall + data at the same time. Only once the 4G network comes out will this be possible on a CDMA phone. So all of these CDMA touch pro 2 future owners are giving up simultaneous DATA + voice for a headphone jack. Then again, those that are already on a CDMA network will notice no changes from before.

dik23 said:
What about A2DP ?
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Then I'd be able to keep the phone charged... while and the bluetooth headset batteries would be going flat.
Andre

This is all a non-issue to me. From what I recall reading it is Tmo that specified they wanted their TP2 to be 3.5mm-less to HTC. So that is what HTC built for them. I wouldn't hold my breath for a TP2 from T-mo being 3.5mm inclusive at any point.
If I am in a location where I can charge my phone, I'll play the music through the speaker. It'll go through a headset if I'll be away from a power source (aka desk). And I have two options there, either the RC E100 remote (from my Kaiser days) which has a 3.5 jack or via A2DP with a Sony HBH-DS220 (3.5 jack), feeding a pair of Etymotic ER4P's with a 5" lead. Both have built in mics, keeps the phone holstered and out of sight.

[Q] Charging via USB FM transmitter

Hi,
I'm thinking of getting an FM transmitter for my N1. Sound will plug into the 3.5 jack. There's tons of different transmitters with USB. Like this one. The USB port is used to play music from a USB stick or MP3 player.
Now my question is: will I be able to charge my USB device (N1 or similiar) with such a transmitter? There's no word about it in the descriptions.
Thanks in advance,
knox

I use this one, and love it, and its available on amazon for next to nothing.
In case the link below doesnt work, its the Griffin Technology iTrip Universal Plus
griffintechnology.com/products/itrip-auto-universal-plus

thanks, mate, sounds like a possibility. unfortunately, this thing is not even close to nothing in germany but rather above 50 bucks. I think a little too much.
Do you have a clue about other transmitters? Is USB host mode sufficient for charging?
regards,
know
PS: which device do you use for charging? I read there's a problem when trying to charge the Droid. Seems to be a Droid issue, though.

v12spd said:
I use this one, and love it, and its available on amazon for next to nothing.
In case the link below doesnt work, its the Griffin Technology iTrip Universal Plus
griffintechnology.com/products/itrip-auto-universal-plus
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How's the transmit power/audio quality on this?

Meanwhile I have been testing a Belkin TuneCast Auto Live and I returned it immediately. I hated it. Audio quality sucked huge donkey d**k: way too little volume, static and frequent interferences with other radio stations. Save your money on this...
My rental car had a 3.5mm audio jack input. So I just bought a Belkin 12V USB charger. It worked but it was too weak to keep the battery from being drained when I used Google Maps Navigation. However, it at least managed to slow down the drain significantly. So make sure to have a greatly charged battery when using the handset as a sat nav.

External HiFi USB-C DAC not working properly

Hi!
Last week I received the Pixel 2 XL, which seems to me a nearly perfect phone.
The only problem to me is the lack of 3,5mm jack output. Given the poor sound quality of Google's dongle, I decided to buy a HiFi solution, recommended by most audiophile people I know, the Sabre 9018 USB-C DAC by Hifimedy.
And now, there comes the issue. When I plug the USB DAC to the phone, it works flawlessly... for a few seconds. In fact, the sound is quite great for the price. But, after a few seconds or when the song changes, the sound stops. The song keeps playing in the phone, but there is no sound in the headphones, although the red light in the DAC suggests it is still receiving energy from the phone. I've used many apps, like Tidal, Play Music, Poweramp, Spotify, VLC... and it's the same with all of them.
I don't know if there is a way to force sound to keep flowing through the USB port, or if it's an issue caused by oreo's energy management, but neither the DAC's manufacturer nor the Google support know why it happens.
You guys are my last resort. If nobody here can hint a solution to the problem, I will have to battle with the DAC manufacturer to get a refund.
Thanks very much in advance for any help that may come!

Jesugandalf said:
Hi!
Last week I received the Pixel 2 XL, which seems to me a nearly perfect phone.
The only problem to me is the lack of 3,5mm jack output. Given the poor sound quality of Google's dongle, I decided to buy a HiFi solution, recommended by most audiophile people I know, the Sabre 9018 USB-C DAC by Hifimedy.
And now, there comes the issue. When I plug the USB DAC to the phone, it works flawlessly... for a few seconds. In fact, the sound is quite great for the price. But, after a few seconds or when the song changes, the sound stops. The song keeps playing in the phone, but there is no sound in the headphones, although the red light in the DAC suggests it is still receiving energy from the phone. I've used many apps, like Tidal, Play Music, Poweramp, Spotify, VLC... and it's the same with all of them.
I don't know if there is a way to force sound to keep flowing through the USB port, or if it's an issue caused by oreo's energy management, but neither the DAC's manufacturer nor the Google support know why it happens.
You guys are my last resort. If nobody here can hint a solution to the problem, I will have to battle with the DAC manufacturer to get a refund.
Thanks very much in advance for any help that may come!
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Try to restart the Phone it should Work after it
Try Not to Start the Phone with the DAC in or dont Plug in the If Music is playing
If U want an other Hifi DAC that Supports the Pixel and have a pretty good build quality:
NEXUM AQUA

tessut said:
Try to restart the Phone it should Work after it
Try Not to Start the Phone with the DAC in or dont Plug in the If Music is playing
If U want an other Hifi DAC that Supports the Pixel and have a pretty good build quality:
NEXUM AQUA
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Thank you for your help, but I restarted the phone, resetted it, and the Hifimediy DAC still does not work.
I think I will go for a refund, it seems the DAC isn't compatible with the Pixel 2.
I'll have a look at that Nexum Aqua you pointed out.

Type C Port somewhat broken ?

Hello Mi6 Owners
Im quite happy with my Mi6, but ive noticed something which is very bad.. Since Mi6 doesnt have a headphone jack it ships with an adapter.. Well I've lost that original adapter, and then a few days after i lost it ordered an replacement.. That replacememt worked for a few days, but the cable on that one was pretty flimsy, so it kinda broke amd i returned it.. Then i ordered some nice looking cable, and i plug it in, and it doesnt work at all, no headphones recognized and no sound coming from them.. So i thought the cable was trash and i bought one from a quite known brand where i live, in a local store here, and again it doesnt get recognized.. But i noticed (Note that all cabled i ordered said, they were compatible with the Mi6) that when i plug the headphones in the plugged in adapter, i get some weird noises, like when you rotate a 3.5mm jack in its port, some weird sounding noises, but thats all noise i get out of it... So is my port broken ? Charging works completely fine.

janosch2001 said:
Hello Mi6 Owners
Im quite happy with my Mi6, but ive noticed something which is very bad.. Since Mi6 doesnt have a headphone jack it ships with an adapter.. Well I've lost that original adapter, and then a few days after i lost it ordered an replacement.. That replacememt worked for a few days, but the cable on that one was pretty flimsy, so it kinda broke amd i returned it.. Then i ordered some nice looking cable, and i plug it in, and it doesnt work at all, no headphones recognized and no sound coming from them.. So i thought the cable was trash and i bought one from a quite known brand where i live, in a local store here, and again it doesnt get recognized.. But i noticed (Note that all cabled i ordered said, they were compatible with the Mi6) that when i plug the headphones in the plugged in adapter, i get some weird noises, like when you rotate a 3.5mm jack in its port, some weird sounding noises, but thats all noise i get out of it... So is my port broken ? Charging works completely fine.
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That's a weird one.
Hopefully its not broken as it seems to be okay with everything else.
I have no expertise on this but I have two suggestions that won't hurt you.
1.a. If the phone isn't playing music from the speaker then it has detected the headphones. It sounds stupid but on MIUI if you put the phone on silent the volume of music goes to 0.
Double check you have turned the volume up a bit and not on 0.
That's the kind of thing I would make a mistake about....
1. Use something very thin and very gentle (don't scratch anything) to clean out the port. It could be a piece of dust or something.
2. Does the port work for data transfer to a PC? If so then the data pins of the port are working.
3. See if you can borrow someone's adapters. But remember different manufacturers switch around the pins inside the phone and adapter to make only their adapter work on their phones. Its actually really awful they can do this as the whole point of USB C is to standardise everything....
Mine however works with the google pixel adapter so some of them will work

Hello, thanks for your reply
1. Its not getting detected.. So i plug them in, the sound goes through the speaker, as if no heaphones are connected.. The only sound i get from the headphones is when i twist them around in the adapter, a bit, like some weird noises, but definetely not from the music playing (but the adapters ive boight clearly say they are for Mi6)
2. Data Transfer works without problems.. Pc detects it and can copy files in both ways no problem

Those USB-C to 3.5 are a NIGHTMARE, mine was acting like the one you have... if you headset has a detachable 3.5. You can buy a usb-c to 3.5 so you avoid any adapter..... But in the end is cheaper just to get some cheap BT headset. Jbl, Phillips among other sell BT headset for not a lot of money.

Hello, i own a xiaomi mi6, but my model was with main MIC damaged so i have replaced It. Now main MIC works fine and charge working too. The only thing that does not work is the audio output of headphones. Can someone help me please?

Headphone Sound Quality ?

Hi guys,
I've been reading contradicting opinions on sound quality from headphones output for this device (adapter actually). How would you rate it in terms of loudness and overall sound quality? Also, do you find it inconvenient to use in any way?
Thanks,
g

gimche said:
Hi guys,
I've been reading contradicting opinions on sound quality from headphones output for this device (adapter actually). How would you rate it in terms of loudness and overall sound quality? Also, do you find it inconvenient to use in any way?
Thanks,
g
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i dont believe thats contradicting opinions... i tested 3 or 4 handsfree (xiaomi noise cancellation usb-c, sony mdr nc-31 em and other cheapest) and i did a comparation with xperia (z3 and z5) and sound is more natural on xiaomi; loud is it enough (if u dont like ,u can root and increase manual the volume until u can damage ur ears)...is a very good phone about sound

Thanks 7tky. What I meant by contradicting, is that some reviewers claim that sound from wired headphones is awesome, and some claim it's crap. That's why I wanted to hear opinions from people that actually own and use this phone.

gimche said:
Thanks 7tky. What I meant by contradicting, is that some reviewers claim that sound from wired headphones is awesome, and some claim it's crap. That's why I wanted to hear opinions from people that actually own and use this phone.
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I'd say sound from this phone is pretty damn good, and GSMarena's tests confirm that. The phone can power pretty big headphones too. It powers Sennheiser HD6XX's pretty well and those are 300ohm cans. Obviously not close to as clear as a dedicated DAP/Amp combo but still impressive that it can power such headphones to near uncomfortable volume. Also according to a review that I can't seem to find anymore, the phone outputs analag signal from the USB-C port so the dongle doesn't have a DAC and Amp in it. All it is doing is turning the USB-C port into a 3.5mm jack which probably explains the capability to power my Sennheiser's.

Yup, I looked into this myself. I had a DAC and AMP combo for my old Moto Nexus 6 (I wasn't happy with the sound quality of the jack). This phone is surprisingly nice. I ended up buying a few extra USB C headphone adapters straight from Google (the official ones for the the Pixels were $9 when I got them). I haven't needed my DAC and AMP since switching.
And from what I've seen the DAC is internal on this phone (as opposed to the Pixel 2 which needs the DAC to be in the dongle). Idk if that allows the port to send more power straight to the headphones or not. But I'm happy.
I thought I would get annoyed by the dongle, but I ended up just ordering a few of the Google ones and keeping them on my headphones.
Plus, Viper4Android works fine for me for some additional tuning of audio (I'm using AOSP ROMs though, not MIUI, not sure if it works in MIUI).
Keep in mind I just use some Klipsch earbuds (R6, X11, and AS-5i), nothing that requires a crazy amount of power to run.
Hope this helps.

Ok, I bought the phone and tested it for a while now, so thought I might share my experience here...
With global rom phone came with (unfortunately, I don't know the version), sound quality was great, but volume was low. Further, it had a weird bug - when I was listening to music and notification cut trough, volume would jump much higher. I could easily recreate the bug by playing music, then going to sound settings and touching slider for ringtone/notification volume, then back to music. Volume would jump higher every time. Some googling reviled that lots of people experienced similar volume jumping bugs.
OTA update (again, I don't know to which miui version) fixed this, but volume was still relatively low. When I say this, I'm comparing it to my previous devices. I'm not trying to fry my ears, though it's always nice to have the option as some music is simply mastered to much lower volume, especially older stuff.
Now I'm on lineage and volume bust is just what miui was missing - few notches higher. I listen modern pumped-up stuff 2 or 3 steps below max, and crank it up to max for very low volume old stuff. Perfect balance for me.
I guess tweaking the correct config file would adjust volume limit on miui. If anyone knows how to do that, please share, it would be much appreciated.
If someone's curious about it, I'm using zero audio carbo tenore earphones.

My audioquest Dragonfly usb DAC stopped working after a MIUI upgrade on my mix 2 since the summer. That is, the phone recognises the DAC but the sound quality light stays red (instead of say, indigo) to indicate no signal.. Updating to MIUI 10 made no difference. I've confirmed it works with the 2S running Android 8 opr 1.70623.032 - My Mix 2 has opr 1.70623.027 and he meeting if that's a difference or if anyone has similar issues of a USB digital audio converter not working on their Mix 2?

paul_mcbride said:
if anyone has similar issues of a USB digital audio converter not working on their Mix 2?
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I'm interested in answer to this question too. Have you tried messing with developer options? Is the problem miui related ; did someone test on linage / aosp based roms?
...anyone tried this thing?

bleached45 said:
Yup, I looked into this myself. I had a DAC and AMP combo for my old Moto Nexus 6 (I wasn't happy with the sound quality of the jack). This phone is surprisingly nice. I ended up buying a few extra USB C headphone adapters straight from Google (the official ones for the the Pixels were $9 when I got them). I haven't needed my DAC and AMP since switching.
And from what I've seen the DAC is internal on this phone (as opposed to the Pixel 2 which needs the DAC to be in the dongle). Idk if that allows the port to send more power straight to the headphones or not. But I'm happy.
I thought I would get annoyed by the dongle, but I ended up just ordering a few of the Google ones and keeping them on my headphones.
Plus, Viper4Android works fine for me for some additional tuning of audio (I'm using AOSP ROMs though, not MIUI, not sure if it works in MIUI).
Keep in mind I just use some Klipsch earbuds (R6, X11, and AS-5i), nothing that requires a crazy amount of power to run.
Hope this helps.
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Is the google dongle more sturdy? i have a Brainwavz HM5 which have a thick cable and the flimsy cable in the dongle supplied with the mi mix 2s feels like it will break any second from the weight of the cable on my HM5.

i skipped the original adapter and buy a new adapter(it's a dac hidizs sonata hd )
and use with my earphones is 1more triple driver.
no comment for that, oh i just forgot that, 1 word - perfect :v