Audio fans- Suggest waiting for 3.5mm jack version - Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General

Seems like everyone but the first runners and (Tmo) are getting the version with a 3.5mm jack. I think Tmo will also get this version too once they bleed out stock. My guess is the next production runs of TP2's will have the jack for Tmo.
Makes sense from a production standpoint in regards to sub-assemblies. HTC's decision to finally bail on usb audio happened during TP2 production.

rushless said:
Seems like everyone but the first runners and (Tmo) are getting the version with a 3.5mm jack. I think Tmo will also get this version too once they bleed out stock. My guess is the next production runs of TP2's will have the jack for Tmo.
Makes sense from a production standpoint in regards to sub-assemblies. HTC's decision to finally bail on usb audio happened during TP2 production.
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Eh, I'll just get my 1st gen TP2 replaced under warranty or something when the new 3.5mm one comes out for T-Mobile. Until then, I'll be perfectly happy with what I have.

I really don't get this whole 3.5 debacle. HTC has been making devices with their proprietery USB audio connection for years. All of a sudden some high profile blog sites start clammering for 3.5 and everyone feels they cant live without a 3.5mm headphone jack.
I'm not trying to rant; I rarely use my phone for audio since I have a Zune. Could someone please explain to me why this is such a big deal. They way I see it, if you are buying a WinMo phone purely to listen to music you are wasting your money.

alabij said:
I really don't get this whole 3.5 debacle. HTC has been making devices with their proprietery USB audio connection for years. All of a sudden some high profile blog sites start clammering for 3.5 and everyone feels they cant live without a 3.5mm headphone jack.
I'm not trying to rant; I rarely use my phone for audio since I have a Zune. Could someone please explain to me why this is such a big deal. They way I see it, if you are buying a WinMo phone purely to listen to music you are wasting your money.
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Just because you listen to music on your Ipod or whatever mp3 player you have doesn't mean that we all should do the same. On a side note, I think everyone has the right to spend on things they want.

CraZyLiLbOy said:
Just because you listen to music on your Ipod or whatever mp3 player you have doesn't mean that we all should do the same. On a side note, I think everyone has the right to spend on things they want.
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That's why I clearly said "The way I see it", as 'in my opinion'. Not everything should turn out to be a debate.

Got a USB/3.5 converter
Got an adapter here "http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=370242796364&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT" for $3.94...Tj

My biggest reason for wanting a separate headphone jack is so you can plug your headphones in at the same time as a power cable, so you can listen to your MP3s on power while keeping the battery fully charged.
Andre

andrewilley said:
My biggest reason for wanting a separate headphone jack is so you can plug your headphones in at the same time as a power cable, so you can listen to your MP3s on power while keeping the battery fully charged.
Andre
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Ahh good point ...Tj

andrewilley said:
My biggest reason for wanting a separate headphone jack is so you can plug your headphones in at the same time as a power cable, so you can listen to your MP3s on power while keeping the battery fully charged.
Andre
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What about A2DP ?

dik23 said:
What about A2DP ?
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Doesn't work if you want to listen to the FM radio

does anyone know if mobilephonesdirect.co.uk are now shipping tp2's with the audio jack yet?

alabij said:
I really don't get this whole 3.5 debacle. HTC has been making devices with their proprietery USB audio connection for years. All of a sudden some high profile blog sites start clammering for 3.5 and everyone feels they cant live without a 3.5mm headphone jack.
I'm not trying to rant; I rarely use my phone for audio since I have a Zune. Could someone please explain to me why this is such a big deal. They way I see it, if you are buying a WinMo phone purely to listen to music you are wasting your money.
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I have to carry a cell phone. I need to carry a PDA. I want to carry a music player.
I don't want to carry more than one device and besides, wearing more than one headset at a time makes me look strange.
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That's why A2DP is soo great. I love using it especially since cables always die out on me. My headphone jacks used to get caught on whatever and I'd be buying a new set of headphones for my discman back in the day at least once a month (one month I actually ended up buying three pairs). Which is why I don't care about the 3.5mm jack.

well .. first off bluetooths great but i get iffy reception sometimes when attached to my body lol and of course the sounds not great good but not great... also i personally did not buy this phone just for music because then ide get a feature phone .. but i love music and require it a standard in a 600$ phone. second you can use the adapter but.. it sticks out of your pocket and when you whip the thing out youve got this glorious phone with a hideous alien brick sticking straight out the side ... and last note... in my experience with any form of mini usb, it wears down and pretty qick dep. on usage .. if i constantly plug in and disconnect for charging and syncing thats bad enough but many many times a day when you using headphones and this usb port will be lose in a few months where you haver to wiggle it to make it work . this happened on my kaiser, mogul and a blackberry i had (on kaiser i had to eventually use a piece of folded tinfoil in the port just to get it to charge under a year old..) ... on topic- i really hope us t mobile users can eventually get a 3.5 mm like through warranty/insurance because i am PINING for it! lol

takeda240 said:
. . . . . on topic- i really hope us t mobile users can eventually get a 3.5 mm like through warranty/insurance because i am PINING for it! lol
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Wow! If everyone is planning on replacing their TP2 on warranty then it might make monetary sense for T-Mob to stick to only the USB versions. wow! wow! wow!

Sure, you get a built-in headphone jack, however, from what I read online, CDMA versions will not allow phonecall + data at the same time. Only once the 4G network comes out will this be possible on a CDMA phone. So all of these CDMA touch pro 2 future owners are giving up simultaneous DATA + voice for a headphone jack. Then again, those that are already on a CDMA network will notice no changes from before.

dik23 said:
What about A2DP ?
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Then I'd be able to keep the phone charged... while and the bluetooth headset batteries would be going flat.
Andre

This is all a non-issue to me. From what I recall reading it is Tmo that specified they wanted their TP2 to be 3.5mm-less to HTC. So that is what HTC built for them. I wouldn't hold my breath for a TP2 from T-mo being 3.5mm inclusive at any point.
If I am in a location where I can charge my phone, I'll play the music through the speaker. It'll go through a headset if I'll be away from a power source (aka desk). And I have two options there, either the RC E100 remote (from my Kaiser days) which has a 3.5 jack or via A2DP with a Sony HBH-DS220 (3.5 jack), feeding a pair of Etymotic ER4P's with a 5" lead. Both have built in mics, keeps the phone holstered and out of sight.

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stereo bluetooth 3.5mm adaptor

I was thinking about buying one of these.
Does anyone else have one? Are they an good?
I have just a basic usb to 3.5 headphone adapter, and I use iPod headphones.
Sounds great to me.
phuKKah said:
I have just a basic usb to 3.5 headphone adapter, and I use iPod headphones.
Sounds great to me.
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Yea, I bought those and they are being shipped to me right now.
But I think that the stereo bluetooth adapter seems pretty convenient, no?
If HTC shipped a bluetooth adapter like this, I wouldn't complain about the lack of a 3.5mm headphone jack
Or you could just get stereo BT headphones and forget the wires and adapters!
phatmanxxl said:
Or you could just get stereo BT headphones and forget the wires and adapters!
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No stereo bluetooth headphones can compare to my Shure earbuds.
Plus I think that most stereo bluetooth headphones are clunky.
Do you have a nice pair though? any recomendations?
I got one from ebay as well. I paid less than that, but it's still the same. They all are manufactured in China. I use mine everyday. Good sound quality, works right out of the box. I haven't really had any problems.
I only have two complaints. 1. You cant use them while charging, as the charger shown in the third picture is plugged into the headphone port. Strange, yes but it works. That is not really that much a problem, because it has great battery life! 2. No matter what I do, I cannot connect it to my computer to stream music from my computer to the A2d2p adapter. (or whatever it's called, lol) If you come up with a solution after you get yours, please post, or email me.
For me, price was an issue. I didn't want to spend a whole lot of money to listen to music from my phone, but I wanted good sound quality. Regular Bluetooth Stereo Headphones are expensive. For me, this was the way to go. I bought this and a pair of Sony wrap around headphones, and I am rockin'. I think you will be pleased.
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PS - I have attached the manual I got from a Chinese Suppliers site, as one doesn't come with it. At least not with mine. (Maybe thats why I got mine cheaper, lol)
PSS - And you know they are not only headphone adapters, but can be used for calls as well. It is kind of awkward to hold the adapter up to talk to someone, but I usually just clip it on my lapel. OK, done editing now.
skyline247 said:
I got one from ebay as well. I paid less than that, but it's still the same. They all are manufactured in China. I use mine everyday. Good sound quality, works right out of the box. I haven't really had any problems.
I only have two complaints. 1. You cant use them while charging, as the charger shown in the third picture is plugged into the headphone port. Strange, yes but it works. That is not really that much a problem, because it has great battery life! 2. No matter what I do, I cannot connect it to my computer to stream music from my computer to the A2d2p adapter. (or whatever it's called, lol) If you come up with a solution after you get yours, please post, or email me.
For me, price was an issue. I didn't want to spend a whole lot of money to listen to music from my phone, but I wanted good sound quality. Regular Bluetooth Stereo Headphones are expensive. For me, this was the way to go. I bought this and a pair of Sony wrap around headphones, and I am rockin'. I think you will be pleased.
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PS - I have attached the manual I got from a Chinese Suppliers site, as one doesn't come with it. At least not with mine. (Maybe thats why I got mine cheaper, lol)
PSS - And you know they are not only headphone adapters, but can be used for calls as well. It is kind of awkward to hold the adapter up to talk to someone, but I usually just clip it on my lapel. OK, done editing now.
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Nice! Thank you for the information!
I think I'm going to get one, I just have to be careful because most of the ones they are selling on Ebay only have UK outlet plugins. I live in the US, and it looks like you do too by the picture of your plug.
I have these:
http://www.amazon.com/Sony-DRBT21G-...?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1246133334&sr=8-29
Great sound, comfy and durable as hell.
But I think im going to try out these next as I want something smaller and lighter, Im still shoppin though for a newer pair:
http://www.amazon.com/Plantronics-V..._1_6?ie=UTF8&s=wireless&qid=1246133213&sr=8-6
phatmanxxl said:
I have these:
http://www.amazon.com/Sony-DRBT21G-...?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1246133334&sr=8-29
Great sound, comfy and durable as hell.
But I think im going to try out these next as I want something smaller and lighter, Im still shoppin though for a newer pair:
http://www.amazon.com/Plantronics-V..._1_6?ie=UTF8&s=wireless&qid=1246133213&sr=8-6
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Cool dude. The Voyager ones look nice, but I think I'm gonna go the cheap route and just get the converter.
I have one of these:
http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/products/accessories/overview/hbh-ds200?cc=CA&lc=en
It's a Sony Ericsson DS-200 which I bought last year specifically so I could plug some decent headphones in!
I think it was fairly expensive - about £50 when I bought it, but it has worked great with anything that I've wanted to pair with it, including my Excalibur.
But it's far better than using a wired headset with a 3.5 jack in my opinion, because if you use "proper" earphones that come with a long-ish cord then combine that with the long-ish cord from the wired headset then it makes for some nightmareish tangles! Using A2DP seems like freedom in comparison!
Highly recommended
jeonatl3 said:
I have one of these:
http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/products/accessories/overview/hbh-ds200?cc=CA&lc=en
It's a Sony Ericsson DS-200 which I bought last year specifically so I could plug some decent headphones in!
I think it was fairly expensive - about £50 when I bought it, but it has worked great with anything that I've wanted to pair with it, including my Excalibur.
But it's far better than using a wired headset with a 3.5 jack in my opinion, because if you use "proper" earphones that come with a long-ish cord then combine that with the long-ish cord from the wired headset then it makes for some nightmareish tangles! Using A2DP seems like freedom in comparison!
Highly recommended
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Wow, I didn't even know that Sony had a product like this.
Thank you for showing me it
jeonatl3 said:
I have one of these:
http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/products/accessories/overview/hbh-ds200?cc=CA&lc=en
It's a Sony Ericsson DS-200 which I bought last year specifically so I could plug some decent headphones in!
I think it was fairly expensive - about £50 when I bought it, but it has worked great with anything that I've wanted to pair with it, including my Excalibur.
But it's far better than using a wired headset with a 3.5 jack in my opinion, because if you use "proper" earphones that come with a long-ish cord then combine that with the long-ish cord from the wired headset then it makes for some nightmareish tangles! Using A2DP seems like freedom in comparison!
Highly recommended
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Lol about the longish cord, gave up on wired headsets as the ammont of times i'd rip the cord when cycling, i'm using STAK semi enclosed cans made for 3 network they were cheap bout £30 and give loud playback with comfortability and like post above a2dp makes listening to music far more enjoyable skippin tracks in an instant answering calls in an instant...
BT is the deffenat way to go
Then cap it off with PocketPlayer....
stylez said:
Lol about the longish cord, gave up on wired headsets as the ammont of times i'd rip the cord when cycling, i'm using STAK semi enclosed cans made for 3 network they were cheap bout £30 and give loud playback with comfortability and like post above a2dp makes listening to music far more enjoyable skippin tracks in an instant answering calls in an instant...
BT is the deffenat way to go
Then cap it off with PocketPlayer....
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I'm using Sennheiser CX300, not audiophile grade by any means but certainly better than bundled headphones or stuff like that, they're great.
I love impressing people on the bus by hiding the A2DP receiver in a pocket and then watching a movie or something on my phone, I've had a few people who were watching over my shoulder anyway ask me how I was listening to the sound! Hehe

Evo to Ipod Dock Adapter DIY

I would like to be able to connect my Evo to my car so that I can listen to Pandora using the car stereo. Unfortunately my car only has an Ipod dock connector.
Would it be possible to create an adapter that will allow you to connect an HTC Evo to an Ipod dock and output audio?
I have seen something similar being done with a T-Mobile G1.
webnetta.com/2008/12/27/hack-connects-t-mobile-g1-to-ipod-dock/
Is it just as simple as getting a Ipod dock extender cable like this one:
monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=108&cp_id=10831&cs_id=1083101&p_id=6828
and cutting off the male and of this cable and soldering it to a male end of microusb cable?
Any help would be appreciated.
this is a huge area where android needs improvement.
There's no audio through the Evo USB port. I was searching for the same thing last night. I have a logitech ipod speaker: (can't post links)
I also have this ipod bluetooth adapter:
What I'm thinking about doing is to hardwire the bluetooth adapter to the inside of the speaker. Then get the 5v from the dock and make a cable or adapter to go to the Evo's mini usb port. It's not the best solution, but I do have all of the parts already. If I didn't, headphones would suffice.
find the schematic for the ipod dock and solder a headphone jack to the audio inputs on the connector and you're done. I have done the same thing and it worked just fine for my friend that I did it for.
the thing that sucks about that is you will need an extra cable to charge the phone.
speedracerbubba said:
find the schematic for the ipod dock and solder a headphone jack to the audio inputs on the connector and you're done. I have done the same thing and it worked just fine for my friend that I did it for.
the thing that sucks about that is you will need an extra cable to charge the phone.
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Hence my bluetooth idea.
I did some digging around a couple weeks ago and came across this
talkandroid.com/guides/ipod-dock-adapter-for-motorola-droidmilestone/
It sucks you need the 3.5 adapter, but better than letting letting a perfectly good dock sit and collect dust.
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I just ordered a couple of these last week. My car has an ipod adapter, and this should let me connect to that and connect the 3mm to my EVO.
It's coming from Hong Kong so may be a bit longer before it's delivered. I'll report back when I get it.
I can't post links yet - go to bestofferbuy.com and search
"3.5mm Male to iPod/iPhone 2G/3G/3GS Female Adapter Cable - Black (95CM-Length)"
It's $2.60 shipped so I bought two. Can't go wrong for 5bucks
oooo ^ good find. picked up two myself.
I've been using one of these in my car for about 6 months now, originally it was to have audio from netbook. It has now been doing me good on the evo.
*correct the link and bingo... Cant post the real link because of my noobness
w w w.cablejive.com/products/Dock-Input-Cable.html
I had the same problem, I think the best solution is to go Bluetooth. This will future proof you for phone changes down the line as well. Long story short, here is the best solution I've found and it works great! Just connect it to your ipod cable and stream over Bluetooth. So far it has worked with everything ipod, iPhone and iPad that I own, especially my custom installed iPhone stereo connector.
Just look up item number 190402178083 on eBay.
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Step 1: Buy some Sugru or ShapeLock
Step 2: Buy Cheapie $1 headphones
Step 3: Buy iPod female Dock connector and MicroUSB Male end
Step 4: Use Pinout.ru to connect the points appropriately (iPod dock connector pins are pretty small and you must work quickly or your will melt the plastic, do not forget the internal resistors if needed for your application)
Step 5: Wrap it up in Sugru or Shapelock (use hairdryer to smooth it out with your hands)
Step 6: Paint and Enjoy!
Creating custom cables and docks and such is really not that difficult, just need some decent soldering skill and patience.
You could also just buy this:
http://www.cablejive.com/universal-dock-converter
FIPO Bluetooth
I use this in my BMW for streaming over the bluetooth to the stereo. Works great and convient to just start the car and the Evo start playing music/podcast/etc.
FIPO Amazon Sprint search will turn up the 20 dollar adapter.
Childofthehorn said:
Creating custom cables and docks and such is really not that difficult, just need some decent soldering skill and patience.
http://www.cablejive.com/universal-dock-converter
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Some of us do have the necessary skills, but do not want a ugly wire staring us in the face. Also the components themselves tend to get expensive when ripping apart 3 different cords for parts... not to mention when someone tries this and melts something, then you have to go through the hassle of ordering more components. That is the main reason we come here, because someone may already be on the job.
Now..... if your offering to do it, and you have a pricetag and are willing to offer support in case it doesn't work or kills our phones or car stereos, then I am all ears. But definitely thanks for the link.
As far as BT goes, the one poster is kind of right, I think the phone industry is betting on bluetooth, although its been 15 years, and BT performance is still at best Mediocre.
00-Photon said:
I had the same problem, I think the best solution is to go Bluetooth. This will future proof you for phone changes down the line as well. Long story short, here is the best solution I've found and it works great! Just connect it to your ipod cable and stream over Bluetooth. So far it has worked with everything ipod, iPhone and iPad that I own, especially my custom installed iPhone stereo connector.
Just look up item number 190402178083 on eBay.
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now that is sweet! best solution yet!
What if we took audio out from the HDMI port?
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Also the components themselves tend to get expensive when ripping apart 3 different cords for parts... not to mention when someone tries this and melts something, then you have to go through the hassle of ordering more components.
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True, But there are those of us with drive to do something unique and have something that fits our needs exactly. DealExtreme.com is a great place to buy the cables to be ripped up and dollar stores can be a real treasure trove. Craft/ART stores also have a lot of things which can be easily repurposed.
Brutal-Force said:
Now..... if your offering to do it, and you have a pricetag and are willing to offer support in case it doesn't work or kills our phones or car stereos, then I am all ears.
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I used to be a person who did his kind of work in college, but it is time consuming and repetitive. Plus, this is likely a market of people who are not willing to spend great amounts of money on handmade products. Even if someone charged $30 each it would not be worth the average techies time, but a worthwhile effort for a high school or college student with the drive to learn and perfect.
Brutal-Force said:
As far as BT goes, the one poster is kind of right, I think the phone industry is betting on bluetooth, although its been 15 years, and BT performance is still at best Mediocre.
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You are correct in MOST scenarios!
It is more of an issue not with the BT technology itself rather the way it is popularly implemented. BT does have the ability to send out very high quality audio streams and many of which are nearly lossless in quality. The issues are with the device that streams and the device that receives. The chosen connection type between the two devices must be mutual. Problem is that most BT devices streaming A2DP use only SBC coding of varied bit rate and quality.
Now if you have a really well done setup that is very thought out you can have your EVO sending out a pure 320kbps MP3 or AAC or other compatible stream direct with no conversion being done in real time to a BT receiver which is MP3, etc. stream compatible and has an excellent, typically non-chip integrated, DAC with a nice buffered output. Problem is that many BT receiver chips are made to be as cheap as possible, have crappy dacs, and push out very little power (or simply have no buffer at all) to even crappier speakers. When you combine that with real time conversion of MP3 and other formats to SBC at an even lower bit rate, you have an even worse experience.
IMO, the headphone output on the EVO does not sound that good and if you have a car that does accept MP3 320k BT streams and you use an alternative media player like meridian that allows that kind of behavior, then it should be fine for even above average car audio.
Have a Great Listening Experience!
JoeBass said:
I just ordered a couple of these last week. My car has an ipod adapter, and this should let me connect to that and connect the 3mm to my EVO.
It's coming from Hong Kong so may be a bit longer before it's delivered. I'll report back when I get it.
I can't post links yet - go to bestofferbuy.com and search
"3.5mm Male to iPod/iPhone 2G/3G/3GS Female Adapter Cable - Black (95CM-Length)"
It's $2.60 shipped so I bought two. Can't go wrong for 5bucks
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Great find! Just ordered one for myself
Childofthehorn said:
True, But there are those of us with drive to do something unique and have something that fits our needs exactly. DealExtreme.com is a great place to buy the cables to be ripped up and dollar stores can be a real treasure trove. Craft/ART stores also have a lot of things which can be easily repurposed.
I used to be a person who did his kind of work in college, but it is time consuming and repetitive. Plus, this is likely a market of people who are not willing to spend great amounts of money on handmade products. Even if someone charged $30 each it would not be worth the average techies time, but a worthwhile effort for a high school or college student with the drive to learn and perfect.
You are correct in MOST scenarios!
It is more of an issue not with the BT technology itself rather the way it is popularly implemented. BT does have the ability to send out very high quality audio streams and many of which are nearly lossless in quality. The issues are with the device that streams and the device that receives. The chosen connection type between the two devices must be mutual. Problem is that most BT devices streaming A2DP use only SBC coding of varied bit rate and quality.
Now if you have a really well done setup that is very thought out you can have your EVO sending out a pure 320kbps MP3 or AAC or other compatible stream direct with no conversion being done in real time to a BT receiver which is MP3, etc. stream compatible and has an excellent, typically non-chip integrated, DAC with a nice buffered output. Problem is that many BT receiver chips are made to be as cheap as possible, have crappy dacs, and push out very little power (or simply have no buffer at all) to even crappier speakers. When you combine that with real time conversion of MP3 and other formats to SBC at an even lower bit rate, you have an even worse experience.
IMO, the headphone output on the EVO does not sound that good and if you have a car that does accept MP3 320k BT streams and you use an alternative media player like meridian that allows that kind of behavior, then it should be fine for even above average car audio.
Have a Great Listening Experience!
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Well, that was a mouthfull. Thanks though, it helps a little. I did spend quite a while researching different Bluetooth headsets. But alas, as you have pointed out, although most of what is considered to be high end headsets, still only use bluetooth 2.0. The EVO also doesn't do a very good job at streaming bluetooth. Pandora and Music Player skip horribly. I was not aware that Meridian did a better job. I guess, that might have been another option.
As far as the bluetooth headsets go though, if your looking for A2DP, the selection is still limited, unless you want a dongle type headset, which IMO, you might as well use a wire. The Motorola, Rocketfish and Jabra headsets of top end just don't do as good a job as seating properly, unless you spend 50+ dollars on a custom ear piece.
There really are a lot of trade-offs in audio performance, but a good set high quality ear buds or headphones are hard to beat. Then comes the Car audio as well as home audio into play. I use mine as a MP3 player both on the go and in the car. My car has a Audio In jack, so I am happy with that.
I ordered a E5 Amplifier to go with mine, it should be here in a week or two. While my headset has finally broken in, I could do with about 10-20% more volume, but I am hoping for a little improved base since it will have the power to push my Vmoda Remix.
Brutal-Force said:
Well, that was a mouthful....
The Motorola, Rocketfish and Jabra headsets of top end just don't do as good a job as seating properly, unless you spend 50+ dollars on a custom ear piece.
There really are a lot of trade-offs in audio performance, but a good set high quality ear buds or headphones are hard to beat.
I ordered a E5 Amplifier to go with mine, it should be here in a week or two. While my headset has finally broken in, I could do with about 10-20% more volume, but I am hoping for a little improved base since it will have the power to push my Vmoda Remix.
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Yeah, The E5 is a decent beginner set. You may want to look at building a CMoy at some point, make sure to use slightly larger electrolytic caps and good film caps (resistors don't matter as much). If you make one with good parts and socketed chip, you can roll in to your flavor and it will take portable amps that are $100 or more to beat it. As far as kit amps go, its hard to beat a Mini3 for $100 to put together yourself.
I only say this as a person who actually owns a $450 Portable Amp and $575 Custom triple driver In-ear's. Don't even get me started about the stuff that is at home (I have way too much audio crap!)
BTW - you can make your own custom silicone ear pieces by using some Sugru or if you know an audiologist, you can get some of the Westone two part silicone that they normally use for getting impressions. As with everything, be careful and YMMV.
I wish i had the time to work on getting a USB host for the EVO so that we could use external USB DAC's (like the very small alien and grub).
00-Photon said:
I had the same problem, I think the best solution is to go Bluetooth. This will future proof you for phone changes down the line as well. Long story short, here is the best solution I've found and it works great! Just connect it to your ipod cable and stream over Bluetooth. So far it has worked with everything ipod, iPhone and iPad that I own, especially my custom installed iPhone stereo connector.
Just look up item number 190402178083 on eBay.
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Just ordered this too. The cable I ordered from Bestofferbuy . c o m was backordered, so I canceled. I agree with you, this should do the trick, saw it on another forum and looks like it will also allow some steering wheel functionality.
I ordered two through amazon, also found it on geek . com. Searching either with "Sprint Anycom Bluetooth A2DP Reciever" will get you there.

[Q] Need to charge and Listen to music at the same time

What should I buy to charge and listen to music at the same time. Would love to have something that would allow the headset that came with the phone and a normal (3.5 mm?) head set.
This looks good but one comment is that you cannot listen to music and charge.
http://www.amazon.com/OEM-3-5mm-Hea...DP2/ref=pd_bxgy_e_text_c#moreAboutThisProduct
I have one of these but it no longer charges and it has always produced some static while charging and listening.
http://www.amazon.com/HTC-Charger-Adapter-Smartphone-T-Mobile/dp/B001IYQ8C6
What is everyone else using?
I use the adapter that came with my Tilt 2 (the first link above). It allows charging and plugging in 2 headsets at the same time. Didn't you get one with your phone?
I don't know what came with all other versions, but the European WWE version doesn't come with the adapter.
thebrenda said:
What should I buy to charge and listen to music at the same time. Would love to have something that would allow the headset that came with the phone and a normal (3.5 mm?) head set.
This looks good but one comment is that you cannot listen to music and charge.
http://www.amazon.com/OEM-3-5mm-Hea...DP2/ref=pd_bxgy_e_text_c#moreAboutThisProduct
I have one of these but it no longer charges and it has always produced some static while charging and listening.
http://www.amazon.com/HTC-Charger-Adapter-Smartphone-T-Mobile/dp/B001IYQ8C6
What is everyone else using?
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http://www.amazon.com/OEM-3-5mm-Hea...DP2/ref=pd_bxgy_e_text_c#moreAboutThisProduct
this one will work on your Tp2 or tilt2 i have tried it on sprint and at&t devices. So you should be good to go
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http://www.amazon.com/OEM-3-5mm-Hea...DP2/ref=pd_bxgy_e_text_c#moreAboutThisProduct
this one will work on your Tp2 or tilt2 i have tried it on sprint and at&t devices. So you should be good to go
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This is also the one that comes with the ATT tilt... works like a charm, just wish it wasn't so bulky...
Edit: oh... sorry, I am just repeating what you said. I thought when I first read it, you said you hadn't tried it on ATT or sprint devices. Clearly, I need to get some sleep. I'm going to log out now.
Actually, my HTC TP2 from T-Mobile did come with this one. I had put it away because the manual said something like an AVI out. I dug it out and it works = with a twist. If you plug in the 3.5mm headset plug all the way, the sound comes out of the speakers, if you unplug it just a little the sound comes from the headset. But the sound is not that good. It sort of sounds like the plug is not in all the way.
Is anyone getting this to work with a 3.5mm headset?
http://www.amazon.com/OEM-3-5mm-Head...outThisProduct
thebrenda said:
Actually, my HTC TP2 from T-Mobile did come with this one. I had put it away because the manual said something like an AVI out. I dug it out and it works = with a twist. If you plug in the 3.5mm headset plug all the way, the sound comes out of the speakers, if you unplug it just a little the sound comes from the headset. But the sound is not that good. It sort of sounds like the plug is not in all the way.
Is anyone getting this to work with a 3.5mm headset?
http://www.amazon.com/OEM-3-5mm-Head...outThisProduct
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i think you may have a defective head set, as it as never happened to me before

[Q] A Music Dock for Evo?

Is there a music dock for the Evo anywhere?
I'm NOT talkin about a car dock, or a charging/syncing dock or just external speakers that plug into the headphone port...
I mean a dock like the millions of them that are available for the iPhone that is an actual stereo where the phone docks into it and charges/plays music at the same time..
I have looked everywhere and cant find one.. seems like the only thing that the iPhone has that my Evo doesnt that I actually want
Any ideas?
Oh, and something that you "rigged" up that does the same thing might be interesting to see also..
You're not going to find anything made specifically for the EVO. The best bet is to find a universal one that has USB charging capabilities. I can't recall one off the top of my head but I'm sure they are out there.
Yeah, I really wasnt expecting to find an "EVO specific" one but I cant even find a universal one that's not a complete piece of crap that is so inconvenient to use that it's not worth it...
Am I the only one that wants one of these or what? There has to be a bir market for a really good universal one that non-iPhone users can buy... Maybe I'm missing something
YES, YES, a million times YES on someone making this!
I would buy it in a heartbeat!!!
blakjak220 said:
Is there a music dock for the Evo anywhere?
I'm NOT talkin about a car dock, or a charging/syncing dock or just external speakers that plug into the headphone port...
I mean a dock like the millions of them that are available for the iPhone that is an actual stereo where the phone docks into it and charges/plays music at the same time..
I have looked everywhere and cant find one.. seems like the only thing that the iPhone has that my Evo doesnt that I actually want
Any ideas?
Oh, and something that you "rigged" up that does the same thing might be interesting to see also..
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I want one of these. I am actually in the process of making one out of wood. I am thinking of shaping it like a regular dock, and using a good acoustical wood. Got the idea from here.
I am thinking this would work great. Maybe take a charger and run it up so that you can plug it in, and use the acoustics of the wood to amplify the sound. Just a thought.
So there are no MicroUSB docks anywhere??
I figured someone would have made one
I've been thinking about one, and it would be cool
I guess even a dock with a USB port so one could connect the cable to it would be fine
sigh
thacounty said:
I want one of these. I am actually in the process of making one out of wood. I am thinking of shaping it like a regular dock, and using a good acoustical wood. Got the idea from here.
I am thinking this would work great. Maybe take a charger and run it up so that you can plug it in, and use the acoustics of the wood to amplify the sound. Just a thought.
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That's not a bad idea,,, I can build pretty much anything so I'll be looking into this, thanks
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I would think your best option would be to just get a bluetooth speaker set or one designed for the ipod and use a ipod>bluetooth adapter like this one.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190398627547&rvr_id=213403115911&mfe=sidebar
jobryan26 said:
I would think your best option would be to just get a bluetooth speaker set or one designed for the ipod and use a ipod>bluetooth adapter like this one.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190398627547&rvr_id=213403115911&mfe=sidebar
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I had seen one of these back a while ago but I guess I just forgot about it... That does seem like the best option. I've never used bluetooth to stream music but I assume it works well and will play with music on my SDcard as well as Slacker and the like?
blakjak220 said:
I had seen one of these back a while ago but I guess I just forgot about it... That does seem like the best option. I've never used bluetooth to stream music but I assume it works well and will play with music on my SDcard as well as Slacker and the like?
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Absolutely. I have a set of bluetooth headphones that are really sweet and i use them with pandora, music app, audiogalaxy etc...
My wife was asking this just the other day. She hates plugging in to the ear phone jack. I might try that bluetooth receiver idea.
Sent from my Evo CM7 RC1
I used the FIPO for quite a while (till I lost it) I think there was a guy on there that was selling them for cheap (around $10 IIRC), but it worked flawlessly every time and the sound quality was not bad at all....
dcmtnbkr said:
Absolutely. I have a set of bluetooth headphones that are really sweet and i use them with pandora, music app, audiogalaxy etc...
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What kind of bluetooth headphones you have?.. I take it you're pretty happy with them..
Nice!
jobryan26 said:
I would think your best option would be to just get a bluetooth speaker set or one designed for the ipod and use a ipod>bluetooth adapter like this one.
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Great idea, thanks man!
The problem is the HDMI out: there is no "dock" connector, just USB (which IS host capable, somewhere on that chip) and the HDMI connector.
HDMI encodes the audio into blank space of the video stream, so you need signal processing to seperate the two: that's too close to the DO NOT CROSS line for manufacturers. There aren't many products that do that (right now), and I don't know if there will be. However I found this one in my travels:
http://hinen.gmc.globalmarket.com/p...switcher-4-port-with-audio-output-165992.html
Is the only thing I can find that comes close to an audio extractor for HDMI. And it has an extra 3 inputs!
So you could get the HDMI dock, the HDMI adapter cable, this doodad, a receiver (or a digital audio to analog converter and THEN to a receiver), and then go out to your speakers. Of course that assumes the software/firmware on the EVO can just play audio out that end: because it is HDMI you would have to have a video signal of some kind going down the wire to activate the link. I suspect that last part would be the easiest part. Though, as developers would probably love something like this too.
Yet another case of DRM being a pain in the ass. in this case, we can thank Intel for being able and willing to sue companies into the ground for not following the HDMI rules.
One final note: if there is HDMI plugged in, all other audio stops (ie bluetooth, headphone jack and builtin speaker). I have not tested this, but this is what HTC said on their tech support forum when I asked.
*EDIT*
Just noticed it has stereo out, but the description is in some funny Engrish, so there is no telling if it is actually available.
*EDIT 2*
http://www.octavainc.com/HDMI switch 4port_toslink.htm
Appears to have been around for ~3 years, but almost $300 too!
*EDIT 3*
http://www.ambery.com/hdautorcasts.html
c/o
http://www.cepro.com/article/atlona_hdmi_13_audio_de_embedder_supports_lossless_audio/
Does not seem to be vaporware, and on the first link, is $128, which is a steal coming from the pro A/V market. Kinda high for us regular consumers, but for that market it's almost free.

Headphone Jack Inconsistent

I got a brand new pair of earbuds (Brainwavz Delta something) and plugged them into my HTC 10.. they work fine for a bit then if I move the phone just right (or sometimes do nothing) the music stops, there's no longer a headphone icon in the status bar, and I have to unplug and plug them back in.. any idea what this may be caused by?
My Xiaomi Piston 3s worked fine with it, they just died in one ear :/
Edit** the headphones work fine with my Nexus 7, so it's not an issue of compatibility... unless the fact that it's a 3-ring plug (which should be fine, so were the pistons)
Same issue with headphone jack
I was using a pair of Fischer Audio Consonance Pro IEM's on my M8 and now 10 and experiencing the same issues. Songs skipping all over the place, starting, pausing, the OK Google app starting up and saying it couldn't hear what I said, or picking up something from what I am listening to. It is maddening. I love this phone so far, but this issue will drive me crazy if I can't be easily fixed.
It's as if the jack/plug is coming loose, since it fails to recognize the headphones until I unplug it and replug. It's very annoying, and seems to happen only if I tip the phone just the right way :/ hope it's not a hardware defect...
I have a feeling this is because of the edges, if you look at the headphones Jack it isn't flush the edge goes in a little thus you don't get 100% covered 3.5m lead.
Does seem worse in some headphones though
Phil750123 said:
I have a feeling this is because of the edges, if you look at the headphones Jack it isn't flush the edge goes in a little thus you don't get 100% covered 3.5m lead.
Does seem worse in some headphones though
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Any way to fix it? I love the quality, when it works...
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Any way to fix it? I love the quality, when it works...
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Not really, the best way would be to get a very small 3.5m extension cable, one that isn't so sensitive,but you would only find out through trial and error. Or buy another set of headphones. For example my bose qc25 aren't to bad but a cheap sony set I have if I move abit they crackle.
Is the one bit of design htc messed up. If they would of moved it a few mm to the front and problem solved.
Surprised more people aren't moaning about it as one big points is the 24 bit audio.
Can we confirm that this is an issue across all HTC 10's and not just an unlucky few? I thought my phone might've been defected. 2 Beats headphones I have (got both as gifts) do not seem to work properly. But if I use other a plantronics headset I have, works just dandy. I'm afraid to buy any headphones not knowing which would or wouldn't work. This is not a good thing at all.
I have a Sol republic headphone with mic integrated and doesn't work properly on mine either. However, a friend of mine has a sol republic headphone too, and it works. I bought a panasonic tcm 125 and it works really well.. so IDK, I'm going to change the cable on my sol rep to see if that fix the problem.
Might be headphones with integrated control/mic which has the extra ring :/
Question: when does the issue happen for everyone else? Mine almost always acts up when I turn the screen off, maybe that has something to do with it
I can confirm this is NOT a wide spread issue, I even dropped my phone, not low enough to hang on the cord but enough movement to yank on it, I have messed with it, played around to see if I can make it have an issue, but no issue exists, its either an unlucky few or your headphones.
The only issue I have not related to this is my headphones I tested, the "Audio Technica ATH-M50" jack is too big to fit in the headphone jack while my phone has its case on (Spigen Neo Hybrid Crystal), taking the case off solves it, just barely not big enough cut out on the case for that model of headphones, regardless they don't sound as good as my IEM's so F em! lol
Have you guys tried other headphones or AUX cords? I don't have this issue anywhere, not via Headphones, not at my work on are speaker system, and not in my car via AUX.
So the actual shape or design of the headphone jack it self is NOT flawed like I noticed some have speculated.
I've been using my m50x or bose qc20's. Both work fine with no issues.
Pretty sure it's headphones with integrated controls for Apple devices that don't work. My jbl reflects which I use for running (3 rings) don't work if pushed all the way in. But my bose sound true work just fine. And the bose just so happen to be made for samsung and android devices. If I had some apple earpods around I'd test it but I'm thinking it's just headphones with integrated controls exclusively for Apple that might have issues.
jgeorge15 said:
Pretty sure it's headphones with integrated controls for Apple devices that don't work. My jbl reflects which I use for running (3 rings) don't work if pushed all the way in. But my bose sound true work just fine. And the bose just so happen to be made for samsung and android devices. If I had some apple earpods around I'd test it but I'm thinking it's just headphones with integrated controls exclusively for Apple that might have issues.
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Wish that were the case.. mine are specifically Android remote headphones :/
Experiencing similar issues with my Sennheiser Urbanite XL headphones. Seemingly random moments where the headphones seem to just disconnect with the slightest movement (or non-movement).
lancespahr said:
Wish that were the case.. mine are specifically Android remote headphones :/
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Hmmm you're right. My sisters htc 10 seemingly all headphones just do not to work. Might be a small batch issue. I'm thinking about exchanging out for another one because I have the yellow band issue on the bottom of the screen anyways. Really don't want to play the exchange game like I did with the nexus 6p especially since HTC doesn't have the same support Google does. Gonna exchange if I get a bad one twice I'm just returning this phone all together. Hate to see it go because this phone is gorgeous.
jgeorge15 said:
Hmmm you're right. My sisters htc 10 seemingly all headphones just do not to work. Might be a small batch issue. I'm thinking about exchanging out for another one because I have the yellow band issue on the bottom of the screen anyways. Really don't want to play the exchange game like I did with the nexus 6p especially since HTC doesn't have the same support Google does. Gonna exchange if I get a bad one twice I'm just returning this phone all together. Hate to see it go because this phone is gorgeous.
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Man I'm past my return date... and I'm not ponying up $100+ for a replacement through Verizon insurance
lancespahr said:
Man I'm past my return date... and I'm not ponying up $100+ for a replacement through Verizon insurance
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Ah I have the unlocked model and I modded it to use on Verizon. I had no problem replacing phones through verizon though. Switched out my s6 edge 4 times for free due to display and speaker issues. Of course you end up getting their certified like new device which may or may not bother you. But if it doesn't you can just go to a corporate store and show them some headphones won't work. Most likely they'll ship you one free of charge.
jgeorge15 said:
Ah I have the unlocked model and I modded it to use on Verizon. I had no problem replacing phones through verizon though. Switched out my s6 edge 4 times for free due to display and speaker issues. Of course you end up getting their certified like new device which may or may not bother you. But if it doesn't you can just go to a corporate store and show them some headphones won't work. Most likely they'll ship you one free of charge.
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I'm not a huge fan of Verizon anyway.. parents are just too afraid to lose the coverage (T-Mobile is top of my list but they're not so convinced)
I accidentally whacked my headphone jack very lightly with the tip of my finger and now my headphones seem to randomly disconnect. It works fine with my aux cable, but with my headphones with a mic it seems this happens.

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