I noticed that Amazon has the AT&T variant of the LG G3 up and I was curious if anyone knew the differences between them. I assume there will be bloatware for each specific carrier, but, excluding Verizon, would the AT&T variant be harder to root? Would one specific carrier variant get custom roms while the others are left behind?
Sorry for the noob questions, I'm just not 100% familiar with Android devices sold by a specific carrier.
also, is it safe to assume that I could put a t-mobile sim card in the AT&T variant and it will connect to the t-mobile network? since they're all 851 variants
Enddo said:
also, is it safe to assume that I could put a t-mobile sim card in the AT&T variant and it will connect to the t-mobile network? since they're all 851 variants
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Surprisingly yes, there's a minimum of difference in supported bands according to the FCC. AT&T's website indicates their model (D850) supports 2100 Mhz HSPA rather than AWS, but they probably meant AWS. Basically they have the same 2G, 3G, and HSPA+ frequency support
T-Mobile's (D851) is missing Band 5 LTE, which AT&T has deployed here and there, but that appears to be the only difference in frequency support. Both devices have LTE Bands 2, 4 and 17 (AWS, PCS, and 700 MHz blocks B and C respectively), so the main US LTE bands are covered.
You would have to unlock the device first, of course.
Will it get 4g LTE with any carrier with or without any modification?
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DML92 said:
Will it get 4g LTE with any carrier with or without any modification?
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Nearly all mobiles these days have LTE or 4G bands. if you buy an International device (D855) then the device will "Support" LTE, but it depends if your carrier has activated it. For example, Here in UK we have EE UK, which is comprised of Orange, T-Mobile and EE. If I want 4G I need an EE contract. If I just make phone calls and texts and dont bother with web usage I would get a cheaper 3G Contract with Orange or T-Mobile UK.
Yes my D855 supports 4G if I want it, but my Phone will always say "3G / H / H+" because my contract I bought only supports 3G.
Hope that helps
It also depends if the phone supports the LTE band. Might be worth googling the LTE band for your carrier to see if the phone supports it
Has anyone tested out an AT&T SIM card in a Verizon variant of the G4? I'd really like an android phone that has LTE bands for both AT&T/VZW to swap back and forth with my iPhone. The VZW Nexus 6 worked great, but it was just too clunky for me.
Thanks in advance for the help!
AT&T uses two main bands for LTE, bands 5 and 17. They also use bands 2/4/29/30 depending on the market.
The Verizon G4 supports these bands according to Verizon: 2/4/13, and these bands according to other research I found online: 2/4/5/7/13.
If that's true, it sounds like you should be able to get some LTE in most markets, but you would be limited as the only bands you could get LTE on would be 2/4/5.
Thanks for your help!
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AT&T uses two main bands for LTE, bands 5 and 17. They also use bands 2/4/29/30 depending on the market.
The Verizon G4 supports these bands according to Verizon: 2/4/13, and these bands according to other research I found online: 2/4/5/7/13.
If that's true, it sounds like you should be able to get some LTE in most markets, but you would be limited as the only bands you could get LTE on would be 2/4/5.
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Do you know where 2/4/5/7/13 are confirmed online? I really wish LG would give us more lte bands like the S6 and iphone 6 do so that I can use it between the US and Europe.
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Do you know where 2/4/5/7/13 are confirmed online? I really wish LG would give us more lte bands like the S6 and iphone 6 do so that I can use it between the US and Europe.
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I only saw it on some spec listings, I'm not sure where you can confirm it.
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Hi All,
I am on T-Mobile and AT&T and wish to purchase the H811 T-Mobile variant. Has anyone done this and then used the phone on AT&T? I see conflicting information where this model has Band 17 support, but on the T-Mobile site it doesn't list Band 17. T-Mobile's site is notoriously bad about leaving out supported LTE bands, so I thought maybe someone could tell me first hand if they've gotten LTE on AT&T's network but with the T-Mobile branded handset? This would be a HUGE help. Thank you so much in advance.
-Collin-
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Hi All,
I am on T-Mobile and AT&T and wish to purchase the H811 T-Mobile variant. Has anyone done this and then used the phone on AT&T? I see conflicting information where this model has Band 17 support, but on the T-Mobile site it doesn't list Band 17. T-Mobile's site is notoriously bad about leaving out supported LTE bands, so I thought maybe someone could tell me first hand if they've gotten LTE on AT&T's network but with the T-Mobile branded handset? This would be a HUGE help. Thank you so much in advance.
-Collin-
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I'm going by the specs on LG page. Just googled "T-Mobile H811 full specs" and it states that frequencies are: LTE bands 2,4,12 and roaming bands 3,5,7.
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sharpehenry said:
I'm going by the specs on LG page. Just googled "T-Mobile H811 full specs" and it states that frequencies are: LTE bands 2,4,12 and roaming bands 3,5,7.
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Thanks, just did that as well and sadly there is no band 17
No Band 17 means no AT&T (or bad AT&T)
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Thanks, just did that as well and sadly there is no band 17
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Just wanted to confirm Band 17 is a must-have (or LTE coverage is poor without it). I'm in Seattle if it matters. H811's are cheaper right now but AT&T is a must-have for me.
I use an F500L on Cricket aka AT&T it's always on Band 5, I've not experienced any issues with data on LTE.
EDIT: you can check detailed specifications on XDA's PdaDB here http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacomparer&id1=8059&id2=8046
Since this post is a bit old I figured I'd double check. Any update on the T-Mobile H811 working on AT&T?
Is it confirmed no band 17, and that 17 is for sure needed if you're looking for LTE service?
I just got a brand new international version of the G7 Thinq, it is the international version, with 128gb and 6gb ram.
I'm able to connect to T-mobile and make calls etc, but it won't connect to LTE even though I've been using LTE for years in my area with no issue on old phone.
T-Mobile support was not able to help me.
The highest it connects is 4g
I really do not want to return this phone to the seller, but I don't want to settle for a phone that can't connect to LTE like my old one.
Willing to try anything...any ideas?
Thanks
4G is LTE.
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4G is LTE.
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Do you have this phone and live in a LTE area? My old phone actually said "LTE" for the signal when it connected with LTE, are you saying this model phone does not actually say "LTE" on the signal bar?
Can anyone confirm that this phone says "LTE" at the top with an LTE signal?
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Do you have this phone and live in a LTE area? My old phone actually said "LTE" for the signal when it connected with LTE, are you saying this model phone does not actually say "LTE" on the signal bar?
Can anyone confirm that this phone says "LTE" at the top with an LTE signal?
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I have this phone and I'm aware of that.
4G *IS* LTE.
You need to google what LTE is.
occasionally you will see 4G+ (downloading).
Falkentyne said:
I have this phone and I'm aware of that.
4G *IS* LTE.
You need to google what LTE is.
occasionally you will see 4G+ (downloading).
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I just googled it and I've read 3 sites so far that says they are not the same.....
https://www.tccrocks.com/blog/what-is-difference-between-4g-and-4g-lte/
I'm not trying to start an argument. I'm just used to my phone displaying LTE and if you are saying this model does NOT display LTE, and displays a "4G" instead, then that answers my question. Some sites even say HSPA+ is 4g, and I know that is different than LTE.
On tmobile he is correct 4g is hspa+.. My g7 says 4g lte when on lte.. Did you do a network reset? Or call tmobile and ask then to redo your phone activation to make sure you register on there network right.. Maybe need a newer sim?
Check the APN settings
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I just got a brand new international version of the G7 Thinq, it is the international version, with 128gb and 6gb ram.
I'm able to connect to T-mobile and make calls etc, but it won't connect to LTE even though I've been using LTE for years in my area with no issue on old phone.
T-Mobile support was not able to help me.
The highest it connects is 4g
I really do not want to return this phone to the seller, but I don't want to settle for a phone that can't connect to LTE like my old one.
Willing to try anything...any ideas?
Thanks
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It's possible that the APN settings may need to be tweaked. I'd start there.
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On tmobile he is correct 4g is hspa+.. My g7 says 4g lte when on lte.. Did you do a network reset? Or call tmobile and ask then to redo your phone activation to make sure you register on there network right.. Maybe need a newer sim?
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Mine says 4G+. Figured that was LTE.
and 4G (without 4G)+ is not LTE?
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Mine says 4G+. Figured that was LTE.
and 4G (without 4G)+ is not LTE?
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I've called T-Mobile, had them do a restart, had them check APN, etc.
I'm using the same sim as my old phone that gets LTE just fine, so it's not that.
I'm thinking something about this international version maybe doesn't support one of the bands or frequencies that T-Mobile uses in Chicago (even though it says it supports GSM worldwide)
I'm probably going to send it back as my 3 year old Motorola phone gets a higher tested download speed on a speed test than this new one without LTE. Just wanted to check if anyone else had the issue. Thanks
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I just got a brand new international version of the G7 Thinq, it is the international version, with 128gb and 6gb ram.
I'm able to connect to T-mobile and make calls etc, but it won't connect to LTE even though I've been using LTE for years in my area with no issue on old phone.
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T-Mobile uses LTE bands 2, 4, 12, 66, 71, while the G710EAW, which I assume is the model you've bought, supports bands 1, 3, 5, 7, 8, 28, 38, 39, 40, 41 - so none of the TMob LTE bands.
There are six variants of the G7, G710EAW is aimed at Asia/Oceania and together with the G710EMW (64GB/8GB single-sim version of your variant) the only one that doesn't support at least two of the TMob LTE bands.
Sorry, hope you'll find a nice replacement
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T-Mobile uses LTE bands 2, 4, 12, 66, 71, while the G710EAW, which I assume is the model you've bought, supports bands 1, 3, 5, 7, 8, 28, 38, 39, 40, 41 - so none of the TMob LTE bands.
There are six variants of the G7, G710EAW is aimed at Asia/Oceania and together with the G710EMW (64GB/8GB single-sim version of your variant) the only one that doesn't support at least two of the TMob LTE bands.
Sorry, hope you'll find a nice replacement
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This is what I was afraid of. But I specifically purchased this model because it had the 128gb, the extra 2gb RAM, and dual-sim....I'll have to research if this is available in one of the models you mentioned but so far I've only seen the 64gb with single sim so I guess I'll have to find a new model. Thanks for the info.
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T-Mobile uses LTE bands 2, 4, 12, 66, 71, while the G710EAW, which I assume is the model you've bought, supports bands 1, 3, 5, 7, 8, 28, 38, 39, 40, 41 - so none of the TMob LTE bands.
There are six variants of the G7, G710EAW is aimed at Asia/Oceania and together with the G710EMW (64GB/8GB single-sim version of your variant) the only one that doesn't support at least two of the TMob LTE bands.
Sorry, hope you'll find a nice replacement
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Who told you this?
I have the G710EAW and it most CERTAINLY supports bands 2 and 4.
It's even labeled DIRECTLY on the box itself.
Don't get your information from the LG website. The site only shows which bands are used IN THAT REGION, not what is supported by hardware.
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alterami said:
This is what I was afraid of. But I specifically purchased this model because it had the 128gb, the extra 2gb RAM, and dual-sim....I'll have to research if this is available in one of the models you mentioned but so far I've only seen the 64gb with single sim so I guess I'll have to find a new model. Thanks for the info.
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Don't believe everything you hear on the internet. Bands 2 and 4 are supported.
These are the bands supported by the G710EAW.
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900
WCDMA: 850/900/1700/1800/1900/2100
TD-SCDMA: 1900/2000
LTE: B1/B2/B3/B4/B5/B7/B8/B12/B13/B17/B20/B28/B38/B39/B40/B41
If a band is NOT supported, trying to select it will show "FAIL" in the engineering menu.
Example: band 25 is shown, but not supported. This will show FAIL.
It was the international LG G6 which had problems with T-mobile, as Band 2 was not supported (shown in service menu, if you select it it shows 'FAIL'.)
I sold one of these phones (I had 2) to a T-mobile user and he's happy.
I have also the 128 GB lg g7 eaw version. My phone shows 4g also. The speed test i have done is 60mbps both up and down and i am ok with that.
What is the diffrence between 4g and 4g lte? Should it display lte?
P. S. My operator is having lte in band 1 and 38 and are supported by the phone. Also band 2 and 4 are available and both connected with succes...
Inerent said:
I have also the 128 GB lg g7 eaw version. My phone shows 4g also. The speed test i have done is 60mbps both up and down and i am ok with that.
What is the diffrence between 4g and 4g lte? Should it display lte?
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My G710EAW shows 4G+. Uaing Net10 on band 2 which uses tmobile's servers. I think each and every person here needs to stop crying wolf. Seriously.
If the US version shows LTE and the international version shows 4G+ I mean who cares if its the same damn thing?
https://www.4g.co.uk/news/what-is-4g-plus-ee/
4G+ is another name for LTE-A, LTE-Advanced or 4.5G and it’s basically a faster version of 4G. It works through carrier aggregation, which allows 4G phones to receive data from multiple bands in the 4G spectrum.
So while standard 4G only uses one band at a time, 4G+ can combine two bands for increased speeds. In EE’s case it’s the 1800MHz and 2.6GHz bands which are being combined
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My G710EAW shows 4G+. Uaing Net10 on band 2 which uses tmobile's servers. I think each and every person here needs to stop crying wolf. Seriously.
If the US version shows LTE and the international version shows 4G+ I mean who cares if its the same damn thing?
https://www.4g.co.uk/news/what-is-4g-plus-ee/
4G+ is another name for LTE-A, LTE-Advanced or 4.5G and it’s basically a faster version of 4G. It works through carrier aggregation, which allows 4G phones to receive data from multiple bands in the 4G spectrum.
So while standard 4G only uses one band at a time, 4G+ can combine two bands for increased speeds. In EE’s case it’s the 1800MHz and 2.6GHz bands which are being combined
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Thx man!
I also knew that 4g = lte. It seems that here are a lot of fake techs.
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Who told you this?
I have the G710EAW and it most CERTAINLY supports bands 2 and 4.
It's even labeled DIRECTLY on the box itself.
These are the bands supported by the G710EAW.
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900
WCDMA: 850/900/1700/1800/1900/2100
TD-SCDMA: 1900/2000
LTE: B1/B2/B3/B4/B5/B7/B8/B12/B13/B17/B20/B28/B38/B39/B40/B41
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The information is from gsmarena. They have been spot on with this kind of information the last times I checked. However, it seems like they're off with the G7. I just compared my variant with their information and it's off as well. Thanks for catching this!
So in that case I can only think of one reason why the OPs phone would not connect to TMobile 4G: the network in your area is using bands that are not supported by your G7. However, this is quite unlikely, since these would be 66/71. From what I read, they have only been introduced in 2017.