Hi, i have a galaxy a5 2017, and i had for a brief moment lineage os on my phone, now i have full stock again (trough odin-> full official software), i have gotten several system updates, but somehow when i try to open s health it says my system is rooted, can someone help?, Samsung pass ect works,
Once rooted or with a custom recovery, the knox is triggered to 0x1. Due to new Samsung security policies, even if you're not rooted, but the knox is 0x1, S Health won't work. You can make it work if you root again and change a single line in built.prop
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So I recently got a new A5 2017 (SW-A520W Canadian Varient) and I managed to successfully install TWRP recovery and Super SU. (Without tripping KNOX). Then I realized there were a ton of apps that refused to allow certain functions like my banking etc. due to (Unauthorized Tampering). So I decided to remove SuperSU and change to Magisk. Everything was fine. I even passed Safetynet (via Magisk). But then I did something VERY VERY stupid I went back into Developer Options and unchecked allow Custom Boot loader OEM UNLOCK ) and Wamo! All of a sudden I noticed I no longer passed Saftey Net and when I rebooted I got the Red Text of Death (Blocked By FRP Lock!). SH**. So right now I am dling the Stock firmware for my phone (A520WVLS5CRI1_A520WOYA5CRI1_VMC.zip) for ODIN. KNOX is now tripped and the phone was no more than 3 weeks old! THIS IS NON SENSE. We are the owners, we paid (or we will pay via a contract the full amount of the phone). We should have the right to do what thou wilt with our devices! So obviously my question is KNOX is software right? at some point in the future someone should have an exploit to remove this ridiculous obtrusive unnecessary hindrance.
BTW: I just want to reiterate that at no time did I change the ROM it was always stock just rooted
Hi, can anyone tell me this, if root my device my Knox is tripped, later if i install a original rom can i have access again to security folder and Samsung pay etc.. again? or i dont have access anymore with original rom whith knox tripped.
Can anyone help me plz
Once you trip knox you're screwed with those apps.
IIRC now don't quote me on this, but Magisk from what I know allows the user to hide the fact that their device is rooted so that apps like GooglePay still work without detecting that the device has been modified. Not sure if it's the same with Samsung exclusive apps but I wouldn't risk it. If you use those features regularly I don't recommend it. But perhaps someone else might know more about this.
Hi,
I need advice on removing Magisk from my Samsung note 10+. I reinstalled the system on the original from Samsung and turned off the OEM. The phone is like new, but it doesn't work with Google play, Samsung pass and Samsung health. He writes that the phone was root. But I reinstalled the system on the original from Samsung. Please don't know what to do with it? thank you in advance :Ó
simek35 said:
Hi,
I need advice on removing Magisk from my Samsung note 10+. I reinstalled the system on the original from Samsung and turned off the OEM. The phone is like new, but it doesn't work with Google play, Samsung pass and Samsung health. He writes that the phone was root. But I reinstalled the system on the original from Samsung. Please don't know what to do with it? thank you in advance :Ó
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When you root the phone an e-fuse blows that trips the knox counter. After the knox counter is tripped it can not be repaired or reset, it is permanent for the life of that motherboard.
You should have known (if you did your due diligence and read up on the process) rooting comes with a warning about what you will loose when you root the phone.
Once knoz is tripped anything that relies on knox will not work.. so samsung pay, samsung health, secure folders, etc will no longer function. In the same token anything which checks to see if the counter is tripped will not work.
Not sure why Google Play won't work but I've read where some part of it will detect the knox counter. I suspect it's not working (or fully working) for you because the knox counter has been tripped. If the phone has been restored to OEM firmware you could try to factory data reset the device.
scottusa2008 said:
When you root the phone an e-fuse blows that trips the knox counter. After the knox counter is tripped it can not be repaired or reset, it is permanent for the life of that motherboard.
You should have known (if you did your due diligence and read up on the process) rooting comes with a warning about what you will loose when you root the phone.
Once knoz is tripped anything that relies on knox will not work.. so samsung pay, samsung health, secure folders, etc will no longer function. In the same token anything which checks to see if the counter is tripped will not work.
Not sure why Google Play won't work but I've read where some part of it will detect the knox counter. I suspect it's not working (or fully working) for you because the knox counter has been tripped. If the phone has been restored to OEM firmware you could try to factory data reset the device.
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Thanks for your advice. I was about to root my Note 10+ until I saw your excellent post. Can I unlock the Bootloader and install Magisk without rooting the phone?
Thanks in advance.
MattHouston said:
Thanks for your advice. I was about to root my Note 10+ until I saw your excellent post. Can I unlock the Bootloader and install Magisk without rooting the phone?
Thanks in advance.
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As far as I am aware flashing a custom recovery will still trip the knox counter.
But I am pretty sure you can, however don't quote me on that. It's not something I have done without rooting the phone because I don't see where magisk would work properly. Without rooting the phone you won't have full admin access to the files on the phone, so I am pretty sure Magisk would be rather impaired functionality wise.
Hello friends,
I unlocked the bootloader and installed TWRP a few days ago on my A50, rooted it with Magisk, but I don't want to use it like that anymore because I can't use Samsung Pass and for some reason I felt a bit uncomfortable.
Maybe there are more reasons to use it this way, but I'm a regular user and I got into these things out of curiosity.
Yesterday Magisk had been unrooted and the phone was completely out of the way I installed it to test it.
I still don't know if there is a way for me to return to that pure a50 state because Knox I saw something troublesome in a few places, I want your help on this.
What do you think I should do?
I would suspect that you have tripped Knox. This results in that you cannot use many apps, e.g., Samsung Pay, Samsung Health, and Samsung Flow. I think it also includes Samsung Pass.
Unfortunately, this is not reversible as it is in the phone's hardware that it can't be restored once the Knox has been tripped.
You can reinstall the stock ROM if you miss the stock experience, but you won't be able to use these Samsung apps.
TrulyPain said:
I would suspect that you have tripped Knox. This results in that you cannot use many apps, e.g., Samsung Pay, Samsung Health, and Samsung Flow. I think it also includes Samsung Pass.
Unfortunately, this is not reversible as it is in the phone's hardware that it can't be restored once the Knox has been tripped.
You can reinstall the stock ROM if you miss the stock experience, but you won't be able to use these Samsung apps.
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yes i can't use any samsung apps. i'll probably root it and try some things changed via buildprop that i saw in some forums, do you think they will work?
Or if I can't make it original, I'm thinking if I should install a custom rom and kernel, I'm very torn. (I'm open to suggestions)
hsynmtl35 said:
yes i can't use any samsung apps. i'll probably root it and try some things changed via buildprop that i saw in some forums, do you think they will work?
Or if I can't make it original, I'm thinking if I should install a custom rom and kernel, I'm very torn. (I'm open to suggestions)
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will not work. knox is tripped so you better find alternative apps
hello everyone,
I have and use android phones last 10+ years, always rooted. But I never had samsung phone.
Now I hear only half informations from my buddy, that its dangeous to root samsung because of knox (i dunno what knox even is).
So, now I'm thinking to buy S20 and want to root it, and my question is..:
If I root it, is anything ''broken'' on the phone ? Can phone still recieve official Samsung OTA updates?
What are minuses? what to look for? What about this "knox"?
Please need informaions
Well, I've owned a couple of Samsung devices over the years and I guess I can speak a bit from experience. Here's what you should know:
1.- U.S. phones have their bootloaders locked, so avoid buying a U.S. variant if you want to root it (some people want them for their Snapdragon chips)
2.- Knox is an e-fuse in the phone motherboard. Once you trip it by flashing custom software (root it), then that fuse will be tripped forever. You cannot get your Knox your status back to official unless you change the motherboard. Even flashing stock firmware will never get you this back to official.
3.- A lot of Samsung's security apps check for this fuse and will refuse to work if they detect that you've tripped it. Samsung Pay, Pass, Secure Folder are just some examples of features that will stop working when they detect a tripped Knox fuse. Some of these have bypass with root, but some don't.
4.- You will not get OTA updates with an unlocked bootloader, let alone root. It IS possible to get them back but only after flashing stock firmware and blocking the bootloader. These don't seem to check for Knox.
Understood, Thank You alot for informations and help!
ShaDisNX255 said:
Well, I've owned a couple of Samsung devices over the years and I guess I can speak a bit from experience. Here's what you should know:
1.- U.S. phones have their bootloaders locked, so avoid buying a U.S. variant if you want to root it (some people want them for their Snapdragon chips)
2.- Knox is an e-fuse in the phone motherboard. Once you trip it by flashing custom software (root it), then that fuse will be tripped forever. You cannot get your Knox your status back to official unless you change the motherboard. Even flashing stock firmware will never get you this back to official.
3.- A lot of Samsung's security apps check for this fuse and will refuse to work if they detect that you've tripped it. Samsung Pay, Pass, Secure Folder are just some examples of features that will stop working when they detect a tripped Knox fuse. Some of these have bypass with root, but some don't.
4.- You will not get OTA updates with an unlocked bootloader, let alone root. It IS possible to get them back but only after flashing stock firmware and blocking the bootloader. These don't seem to check for Knox.
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Hiiii. I currently have a Samsung S20 and I have rooted it before. Once you root it Knox security will be tripped and you will not be able to get it back. This means you will lose access to apps like Samsung Pay, Samsung Pass and Samsung Health. You will not receive OTA updates if you're rooted, but if you flash stock firmware again and lock the bootloader you can start receiving updates again. I currently have a custom ROM installed and I have my ROM rooted. To me, it's been a great experience overall. I didn't really use the Knox features, so I didn't care much about losing it. I have loved rooting my S20 and using a custom ROM !!
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Hiiii. I currently have a Samsung S20 and I have rooted it before. Once you root it Knox security will be tripped and you will not be able to get it back. This means you will lose access to apps like Samsung Pay, Samsung Pass and Samsung Health. You will not receive OTA updates if you're rooted, but if you flash stock firmware again and lock the bootloader you can start receiving updates again. I currently have a custom ROM installed and I have my ROM rooted. To me, it's been a great experience overall. I didn't really use the Knox features, so I didn't care much about losing it. I have loved rooting my S20 and using a custom ROM !!
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Actually you can use Samsung Health, just currently no version above 6.19 (2 versions behind current) until we find a way to patch it...i use it daily with my Watch 4 on Rooted S20+ 5G....
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Actually you can use Samsung Health, just currently no version above 6.19 (2 versions behind current) until we find a way to patch it...i use it daily with my Watch 4 on Rooted S20+ 5G....
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Ohh okay !!! Thank you for letting us know !! I don't use Samsung Health so I had not tested it myself, but I had heard that Samsung Health doesn't work with root. Thanks for telling us it works fine !!
so, when rooted there are no OTAs.. thats a nono for me heh.. but question, if no OTAs come from mobile itself, is it possible to get uprades through PC then.. (Kies) maybe ?
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so, when rooted there are no OTAs.. thats a nono for me heh.. but question, if no OTAs come from mobile itself, is it possible to get uprades through PC then.. (Kies) maybe ?
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Yeah you can flash updates with something like Odin (never used Kies myself, I don't know if it still works)
maxis123 said:
so, when rooted there are no OTAs.. thats a nono for me heh.. but question, if no OTAs come from mobile itself, is it possible to get uprades through PC then.. (Kies) maybe ?
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ODIN
Flash HOME CSC if you want to keep your data