Hi, can anyone tell me this, if root my device my Knox is tripped, later if i install a original rom can i have access again to security folder and Samsung pay etc.. again? or i dont have access anymore with original rom whith knox tripped.
Can anyone help me plz
Once you trip knox you're screwed with those apps.
IIRC now don't quote me on this, but Magisk from what I know allows the user to hide the fact that their device is rooted so that apps like GooglePay still work without detecting that the device has been modified. Not sure if it's the same with Samsung exclusive apps but I wouldn't risk it. If you use those features regularly I don't recommend it. But perhaps someone else might know more about this.
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I don't wont to trip any counters...
kingo would be the easiest way. install the program on your computer, connect your device, click a couple times, let it do its thing and you'll have instant root. nothing else changes and nothing is lost. there was some bad feedback about the app but its been cleared up since then.
many people have used it.
www.kingoapp.com
rlee008 said:
kingo would be the easiest way. install the program on your computer, connect your device, click a couple times, let it do its thing and you'll have instant root. nothing else changes and nothing is lost. there was some bad feedback about the app but its been cleared up since then.
many people have used it.
www.kingoapp.com
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Seconded. It probably won't even trigger your Knox flag (I have rooted several times with Kingo and my Knox flag is still 0x0)
thompsos said:
Seconded. It probably won't even trigger your Knox flag (I have rooted several times with Kingo and my Knox flag is still 0x0)
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Why would we not want to trigger that, does that make Knox useless? Reason I ask is because I do use this phone for work with an exchange account and have been curious about this. If I use Knox to just try it out will that screw anything up?
ilogik said:
Why would we not want to trigger that, does that make Knox useless? Reason I ask is because I do use this phone for work with an exchange account and have been curious about this. If I use Knox to just try it out will that screw anything up?
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I tripped knox and never looked back I guess I'll figure out what I can do when my jump comes up
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ilogik said:
Why would we not want to trigger that, does that make Knox useless? Reason I ask is because I do use this phone for work with an exchange account and have been curious about this. If I use Knox to just try it out will that screw anything up?
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Tripping KNOX may make the phone incompatible with certain enterprise scenarios. Using kingo wont trip the counter so it shouldnt matter in your case.
ilogik said:
Why would we not want to trigger that, does that make Knox useless? Reason I ask is because I do use this phone for work with an exchange account and have been curious about this. If I use Knox to just try it out will that screw anything up?
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Check out this thread which is linked in the FAQ sticky here.
There is one person claiming Kingo tripped his Knox flag despite MI7, so unless we figure exactly why, I would be careful and maybe wait a little.
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There is one person claiming Kingo tripped his Knox flag despite MI7, so unless we figure exactly why, I would be careful and maybe wait a little.
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I don't know about that other person, but I had the same issue, I'm still on MI7, I used Kingo to rood my Note 3, everything was fine until it asked me to install an app called MtkCamera, which I declined, then Kingo kind of frozed and then it restarted. When I checked the Knox counter it was tripped ...so, I would suggest caution with this.
Well, first of all I would ask why do you want to root to begin with and secondly is that reason more important than using it for work. At least In theory Knox was developed for people like you, who have one phone for work and personal use, by providing secure environment for sensitive data. Even if your job doesn't use Knox yet, they may in the future. If I was doing banking or CC transactions on my phone I would seriously consider Knox as well, albeit I have no idea if it would actually serve it's purpose well. If you just test Knox you would need to download some extra software from Samsung, Samsung is aware of security holes and already patched them in the latest bootloaders, so Knox flag will trip when rooting for sure, so I wouldn't be surprised if those security updates wouldn't be the first downloaded as part of Knox suite, when installing it. So here I would speculate, since I have not tried it myself, that you should either root and take your chances, or use Knox and forget about rooting. I wonder if PTJunkie didn't play with Knox, or somehow manage to get Samsung security update, to get his flag tripped, where others didn't. I actually disabled updates to make sure I don't get any new enhancements from T-mo or Samsung.
If you have used Odin before,
root de la vega is easy.
http://www.android.gs/root-t-mobile...-root-de-la-vega-tool-knox-flags-not-tripped/
I root because i have a lot of apps that required root like titanium explorer and root explorer .
Moreso, I need to freeze all the bloatware like google now and s voice.
Dattack said:
If you have used Odin before,
root de la vega is easy.
http://www.android.gs/root-t-mobile...-root-de-la-vega-tool-knox-flags-not-tripped/
I root because i have a lot of apps that required root like titanium explorer and root explorer .
Moreso, I need to freeze all the bloatware like google now and s voice.
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I have 2 quick questions:
1. root delavega uses att rom, att phones don't have wifi calling, is wifi calling still working as usual on rooted, t-mo phones? or in general Is there anything T-mo specific that breaks after root?
2. I assume bringing the phone back to original would require reflashing original T-mo ROMS? Anything else needs to be flashed?
I haven't flashed back to tmobile stock yet. I still have wifi calling and I make sure to disable my tmobile account because they can tell if you are rooted.
Yeah, when you run that system check, but what can they do? Even if they cared, I'm not sure if they do, if your phone is stock with no flags tripped, I would argue and play stupid if needed return, or repair. Also I wonder if this check could be somehow disabled all by itself, for example by taking away some permissions.
Hello all,
I recovered from a very unstable root, flashing TWRP and Magisk. Verity decided to go jump off a cliff, so I am in the clear. HOWEVER, after reading that Canadian samsung pay (spay) now supports my bank, I decided to install it. Spay is throwing me an error, claiming that I have "unauthorised modifications to my device". There are guides on this, but I haven't seen a guide for A520 phones. Please help ASAP!
EDIT: Just wanted to say that the A520W is pretty much the A520F. The only difference being CSC.
You cant use Samsung pay, SHealth, Samsung pass and Secure Folder if your device is rooted.Even if you unroot and do a clean install, you have tripped your knox counter which is the main reason you cant use these features.
You can use shealth by editing build.prob
The other things my work by editing the right line. I do no know which.
This is for shealth
https://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/how-to/guide-how-to-s-health-devices-knox-t3543306
Hi. How r u doing?
I have been rooted the device and remove it and flashing the stock firmware. But, the problem is I cant use the Samsung health or Samsung pay or Samsung pass. I see some solution but it needs to root the device again! and I don't want to root it again.
If anyone has a solution to my problem please help me.
Thanks.
You blew the efuse when you rooted it. The efuse is a micro chipset "fuse" similar to those used in a PROM, it's a one shot deal.
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The stock firmware and/or Knox apps sees those flagged apps. The knox based apps are designed to be hard to hack. A modified Samsung Pay could be a security risk even if you could do it.
I don't think you can modify that on a stock rom; it's hard or impossible even on a rooted device.
Find a work around on your rooted device and be happy. If you want stock, replace the mobo.
Someone here might have a better plan for you though as I haven't played with this. There are others here looking for similar solutions, if you find any post them.
Hello friends,
I unlocked the bootloader and installed TWRP a few days ago on my A50, rooted it with Magisk, but I don't want to use it like that anymore because I can't use Samsung Pass and for some reason I felt a bit uncomfortable.
Maybe there are more reasons to use it this way, but I'm a regular user and I got into these things out of curiosity.
Yesterday Magisk had been unrooted and the phone was completely out of the way I installed it to test it.
I still don't know if there is a way for me to return to that pure a50 state because Knox I saw something troublesome in a few places, I want your help on this.
What do you think I should do?
I would suspect that you have tripped Knox. This results in that you cannot use many apps, e.g., Samsung Pay, Samsung Health, and Samsung Flow. I think it also includes Samsung Pass.
Unfortunately, this is not reversible as it is in the phone's hardware that it can't be restored once the Knox has been tripped.
You can reinstall the stock ROM if you miss the stock experience, but you won't be able to use these Samsung apps.
TrulyPain said:
I would suspect that you have tripped Knox. This results in that you cannot use many apps, e.g., Samsung Pay, Samsung Health, and Samsung Flow. I think it also includes Samsung Pass.
Unfortunately, this is not reversible as it is in the phone's hardware that it can't be restored once the Knox has been tripped.
You can reinstall the stock ROM if you miss the stock experience, but you won't be able to use these Samsung apps.
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yes i can't use any samsung apps. i'll probably root it and try some things changed via buildprop that i saw in some forums, do you think they will work?
Or if I can't make it original, I'm thinking if I should install a custom rom and kernel, I'm very torn. (I'm open to suggestions)
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yes i can't use any samsung apps. i'll probably root it and try some things changed via buildprop that i saw in some forums, do you think they will work?
Or if I can't make it original, I'm thinking if I should install a custom rom and kernel, I'm very torn. (I'm open to suggestions)
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will not work. knox is tripped so you better find alternative apps
hello everyone,
I have and use android phones last 10+ years, always rooted. But I never had samsung phone.
Now I hear only half informations from my buddy, that its dangeous to root samsung because of knox (i dunno what knox even is).
So, now I'm thinking to buy S20 and want to root it, and my question is..:
If I root it, is anything ''broken'' on the phone ? Can phone still recieve official Samsung OTA updates?
What are minuses? what to look for? What about this "knox"?
Please need informaions
Well, I've owned a couple of Samsung devices over the years and I guess I can speak a bit from experience. Here's what you should know:
1.- U.S. phones have their bootloaders locked, so avoid buying a U.S. variant if you want to root it (some people want them for their Snapdragon chips)
2.- Knox is an e-fuse in the phone motherboard. Once you trip it by flashing custom software (root it), then that fuse will be tripped forever. You cannot get your Knox your status back to official unless you change the motherboard. Even flashing stock firmware will never get you this back to official.
3.- A lot of Samsung's security apps check for this fuse and will refuse to work if they detect that you've tripped it. Samsung Pay, Pass, Secure Folder are just some examples of features that will stop working when they detect a tripped Knox fuse. Some of these have bypass with root, but some don't.
4.- You will not get OTA updates with an unlocked bootloader, let alone root. It IS possible to get them back but only after flashing stock firmware and blocking the bootloader. These don't seem to check for Knox.
Understood, Thank You alot for informations and help!
ShaDisNX255 said:
Well, I've owned a couple of Samsung devices over the years and I guess I can speak a bit from experience. Here's what you should know:
1.- U.S. phones have their bootloaders locked, so avoid buying a U.S. variant if you want to root it (some people want them for their Snapdragon chips)
2.- Knox is an e-fuse in the phone motherboard. Once you trip it by flashing custom software (root it), then that fuse will be tripped forever. You cannot get your Knox your status back to official unless you change the motherboard. Even flashing stock firmware will never get you this back to official.
3.- A lot of Samsung's security apps check for this fuse and will refuse to work if they detect that you've tripped it. Samsung Pay, Pass, Secure Folder are just some examples of features that will stop working when they detect a tripped Knox fuse. Some of these have bypass with root, but some don't.
4.- You will not get OTA updates with an unlocked bootloader, let alone root. It IS possible to get them back but only after flashing stock firmware and blocking the bootloader. These don't seem to check for Knox.
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Hiiii. I currently have a Samsung S20 and I have rooted it before. Once you root it Knox security will be tripped and you will not be able to get it back. This means you will lose access to apps like Samsung Pay, Samsung Pass and Samsung Health. You will not receive OTA updates if you're rooted, but if you flash stock firmware again and lock the bootloader you can start receiving updates again. I currently have a custom ROM installed and I have my ROM rooted. To me, it's been a great experience overall. I didn't really use the Knox features, so I didn't care much about losing it. I have loved rooting my S20 and using a custom ROM !!
victoriam8a said:
Hiiii. I currently have a Samsung S20 and I have rooted it before. Once you root it Knox security will be tripped and you will not be able to get it back. This means you will lose access to apps like Samsung Pay, Samsung Pass and Samsung Health. You will not receive OTA updates if you're rooted, but if you flash stock firmware again and lock the bootloader you can start receiving updates again. I currently have a custom ROM installed and I have my ROM rooted. To me, it's been a great experience overall. I didn't really use the Knox features, so I didn't care much about losing it. I have loved rooting my S20 and using a custom ROM !!
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Actually you can use Samsung Health, just currently no version above 6.19 (2 versions behind current) until we find a way to patch it...i use it daily with my Watch 4 on Rooted S20+ 5G....
73sydney said:
Actually you can use Samsung Health, just currently no version above 6.19 (2 versions behind current) until we find a way to patch it...i use it daily with my Watch 4 on Rooted S20+ 5G....
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Ohh okay !!! Thank you for letting us know !! I don't use Samsung Health so I had not tested it myself, but I had heard that Samsung Health doesn't work with root. Thanks for telling us it works fine !!
so, when rooted there are no OTAs.. thats a nono for me heh.. but question, if no OTAs come from mobile itself, is it possible to get uprades through PC then.. (Kies) maybe ?
maxis123 said:
so, when rooted there are no OTAs.. thats a nono for me heh.. but question, if no OTAs come from mobile itself, is it possible to get uprades through PC then.. (Kies) maybe ?
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Yeah you can flash updates with something like Odin (never used Kies myself, I don't know if it still works)
maxis123 said:
so, when rooted there are no OTAs.. thats a nono for me heh.. but question, if no OTAs come from mobile itself, is it possible to get uprades through PC then.. (Kies) maybe ?
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ODIN
Flash HOME CSC if you want to keep your data