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Hi guys,
I'm currently in the market for a new Phone and have narrowed it down to either the OP3(T) or the ZTE Axon 7.
After watching the announcement for the OP3T yesterday I fear that either devs will stay with the original OP3 and neglect the new one, or the other way around.
My guess is that since the phones are very similar, it wouldn't take too much time to port the current roms for the OP3 to the OP3T.
I have the same fear about the Axon 7 and its two versions for the US and EU (I'm from Germany so I would get later updates and possibly less community development).
Are there any statements from the devs working on the OP3 about wether they will support the OP3T aswell?
I had the axon 7 and send it back due no dev support.
No custom Rom available and it won't be much in future.
Also eu version I a 2nd class device compared with us support...
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Peccadilloz said:
Hi guys,
I'm currently in the market for a new Phone and have narrowed it down to either the OP3(T) or the ZTE Axon 7.
After watching the announcement for the OP3T yesterday I fear that either devs will stay with the original OP3 and neglect the new one, or the other way around.
My guess is that since the phones are very similar, it wouldn't take too much time to port the current roms for the OP3 to the OP3T.
I have the same fear about the Axon 7 and its two versions for the US and EU (I'm from Germany so I would get later updates and possibly less community development).
Are there any statements from the devs working on the OP3 about wether they will support the OP3T aswell?
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Oneplus has already released resources for Oneplus 3T and since the hardware in both phones is not very different, the development should be good for both the devices, i think.
Hi All!,
I am a current OnePlus 3t user, and it's a great phone. I was looking to get a new phone for 2 main reasons:
The space on the OnePlus I have is limitted to 64 Gb, I am running out.
With the new Snapdragon 835 out, I thought I'd look for a phone with that if I were to upgrade.
So I thought I'd check out the OnePlus 5, however the price of it put me off. Having done some research, I really like the look of the Xiaomi Mi 6. However there are a few things that are still making me reconsider:
The reviews I have seen have commented the software is buggy. It crashes and stops working at times. The software on the OnePlus 3T just works. I've not had any problems. If I get the Mi6, will it be a case of buying a buggy phone?
Also with the software, I've never used MiUi, and personally I like the simplicity and near stock Android on the OnePlus. How big of a change is the MiUi and is it customisable?
Does the Mi6 have the ability to capture RAW images?
Thanks in advance! :good:
I migrated quickly to Xiaomi.EU ROM when I purchased Mi6, although I didn't have any problem with (fake) supplied ROM.
I've used my mom's 3T for quite a bit, and the stock Android feel of OxygenOS and frequent and fast update from OnePlus is the big... plus.
MIUI, on the other hand, has very bad notification handling. It feels like you're using Android 4.2/4.4 something. You can't swipe left/right on the lockscreen notifications to make them go away, nor you can't expand it nicely like in pure android (You can do it on notification shade however, using 2 fingers, but the experience just sucks). I tried floatify to emulate the notification in stock android, but it's not enough.
MIUI for Mi6 hasn't provided RAW capture capability AFAIK.
OnePlus 5 has released their kernel source, so dev can easily start working custom ROM on that. But Xiaomi has been notorious keeping the kernel source for a long time (about 6 months+ on previous flagship), that makes the non-MIUI based ROM harder to develop.
I'm currently trying to get LineageOS installed on my Mi6, I'll post more on that LineageOS thread maybe tomorrow evening or the day after.
There is always some plus and minus. I’ve been using Xiaomi 5 Pro and I’m very happy {:m034:}
I used to have One+1 and One+3. Both were great phones.
With perfect Quality/Price factor. Even with EU prices:-/
Now I had been waiting for One+5 and all-around I’m very disappointed wit it.
Reason?
USB 2, No OIS, Software AND Price for EU!!!
It’s not the Flagship killer anymore, it starts to be exclusive peace of equipment.
My main decision point (quality/price factor) dropped down rapidly.
I really prefer MIUI in comparison to Cyanogen (1+1) or OxygenOS (1+3).
With weekly Globe-Roms upgrade (http://mi-globe.com) I’m really satisfied. Mi 5 works very smooth.
OK., it’s with open boot loader and rooted, but all my phoned have been same way in the past
(and will be in future )
I do not remember what I used in the first case, but in 1+3, I changed it to Resurrection Remix ROM.
I agree that all Oneplus society forum support is great. Same with software developers.
I hope that here in MIUI world it will be the same soon.
Especially that after all comparisons of my own, I decided to order Mi 6, 6/128 one.
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Without any doubt the mi6, and specially if you can buy it at 369USD in some aliexpress offers.
I just Got the Mi 6 pro. Fresh in my hand. It looks great, and feels excellent. It's running very smooth at the moment but hey, is brand new.
I have my 3t on hand.
I think most of the comments are correct. One plus updates quick esp of your on the beta stream, it's smooth and you don't have to deal with MIUI overlay - the OnePlus launcher is excellent.
The Mi 6 is very emotional - what the 3T has and the 5 does not.
Practically, get the 5....you know what to expect. The Mi6 feels great though.....!
I have to edit this: having had the phone for a week - the Mi6 is the smoothest, fastest phone in town right now, period, including the S8 Plus. It's very slick indeed, very, very quick, had an excellent camera and great Sound.
It's very difficult to put the Mi6 down and pick up any of the other phones.
jlmcr87 said:
Without any doubt the mi6, and specially if you can buy it at 369USD in some aliexpress offers.
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Where I can find this offer?
maak22 said:
Where I can find this offer?
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It's gone. That was the 28 June sale on a couple of sellers. I bought mine then, still waiting for it to be posted...
On the same boat. I have been reading about the touchscreen delay problems,bluetooth connectivity and some other bugs and i am hesitant to do the leap of faith on mi6.
One plus 5 on the other hand has such community and gets so many updates that you are sure that software problems will be fixed as soon as possible.
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On the same boat. I have been reading about the touchscreen delay problems,bluetooth connectivity and some other bugs and i am hesitant to do the leap of faith on mi6.
One plus 5 on the other hand has such community and gets so many updates that you are sure that software problems will be fixed as soon as possible.
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If you find bugs on MI 6,you can tell the developers of Xiaomi to fix them.
I got both the op5 and Mi6, the op5 has an real deal-breaker with the "jelly screen" design flaw. As for now there is no fix and oneplus says its "natural". So the Mi6 is an better choice for me.
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If you find bugs on MI 6,you can tell the developers of Xiaomi to fix them.
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i recon that bluetooth bugs have existed with the launch and they are yet to get a 'fix'.
Updates for global seem non existant but on the other hand thats what you get for the mi series. Xiaomi is pretty great for international devices, mainly speaking about the redmi series. Rest seem to be left untouched(Mi mix,note 2, mi5 s etc).
I am gonna hold myself from buying this yet.
Im in USA and I have 2 Honor 5Xs running RR Unofficial with plenty of Roms to chose from its Launch date. The Honor 6X has the Kirin chipset and finally has picked up developers and Roms in their development area after quite a long time.
I thought I read that the Kirin processor had much less development due to the fact it was not open source like qualcomms from 5X. I may be wrong or ill informed of course. Will the lack of roms development be the same problem with Honor 7X? Looking to upgrade to Honors next budget phone. Please be honest. Thanks.
i wont buy another honor. the devs abandon it too much, plus the honor 6x lagged like no other. do what i did and grab a moto g5s plus for $279, its a great device with good development.
It will be easier for Devs to bring ROMs because of treble, let's see what they'll bring
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Im in USA and I have 2 Honor 5Xs running RR Unofficial with plenty of Roms to chose from its Launch date. The Honor 6X has the Kirin chipset and finally has picked up developers and Roms in their development area after quite a long time.
I thought I read that the Kirin processor had much less development due to the fact it was not open source like qualcomms from 5X. I may be wrong or ill informed of course. Will the lack of roms development be the same problem with Honor 7X? Looking to upgrade to Honors next budget phone. Please be honest. Thanks.
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The development for 6X has taken pace from this month start.. almost 3-4 roms have come forward with regular improvement.
7X will get the same love from the devs.. treble is around the corner as well :fingers-crossed:
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It will be easier for Devs to bring ROMs because of treble, let's see what they'll bring
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lol Treble will never come to the 7X. Why do you think ****wei released it with Nougat?
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lol Treble will never come to the 7X. Why do you think ****wei released it with Nougat?
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Because Honor devices already have separate vendor partition that's required for treble
What about 9i
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Because Honor devices already have separate vendor partition that's required for treble
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Sorry for spamming the thread but need a confirmation if Honor 9i will support Project treble. Honor 9i is almost identical as Honor 7x minus screen size and Camera.
My decision to buy Honor phone depends upon Project treble implementation.
Thanks in advance!
indigo110 said:
Sorry for spamming the thread but need a confirmation if Honor 9i will support Project treble. Honor 9i is almost identical as Honor 7x minus screen size and Camera.
My decision to buy Honor phone depends upon Project treble implementation.
Thanks in advance!
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If it gets Oreo, treble will come automatically
No, it is not the case. A phone that ships with Oreo will need to be Project treble compliant if it is updating to Oreo then Manufacturer can skip it.
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If it gets Oreo, treble will come automatically
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Wrong.
catsruul said:
Wrong.
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I'm petty sure, just wait
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lol Treble will never come to the 7X. Why do you think ****wei released it with Nougat?
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All devices (H9, H8Pro, Mate 9 confirmed) that have been upgraded to Oreo by Huawei comming from nougat got Treble and the new 4.4 kernel.
I can only guess but i'm 99% sure that the 7x gets it aswell.
BTW, they usually implement the latest of the latest when it comes to under the hood android changes.
Regards
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All devices (H9, H8Pro, Mate 9 confirmed) that have been upgraded to Oreo by Huawei comming from nougat got Treble and the new 4.4 kernel.
I can only guess but i'm 99% sure that the 7x gets it aswell.
BTW, they usually implement the latest of the latest when it comes to under the hood android changes.
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Wooo...u seem to own honor 9, honor p9 and other...!!!
Are u planning to buy 7x and develop roms and kernels...???
kiran G. said:
Wooo...u seem to own honor 9, honor p9 and other...!!!
Are u planning to buy 7x and develop roms and kernels...???
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Tomorrow i pick up my H7X from thr local customs department.
And yes, entire OpenKirin Team got the device!
Regards
OldDroid said:
Tomorrow i pick up my H7X from thr local customs department.
And yes, entire OpenKirin Team got the device!
Regards
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Thats a great news....thank you so much....am also going to get my device tomorrow...!!?.....
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Tomorrow i pick up my H7X from thr local customs department.
And yes, entire OpenKirin Team got the device!
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Another reason to get the 7X, wu-huuuuu
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Tomorrow i pick up my H7X from thr local customs department.
And yes, entire OpenKirin Team got the device!
Regards
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Looks like the community is building up. waiting for Openkirin to show the love to 7X
Welcome brother :highfive:
sid21 said:
Looks like the community is building up. waiting for Openkirin to show the love to 7X
Welcome brother :highfive:
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OldDroid already confirmed that OpenKirin team have the device
If you're a crack flasher, I'd go with the G5S+. I went with the 7x because it has a better camera compared to the G5S+ and a refreshing design compared to these other mid-ranged 5.5 inch metal clones. I'd gladly wait patiently for development.
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Honor phones have vendor partition by default so i think it will get treble support.
Guys i was wondering about android p update for oneplus 5t, since 2 major android updates are usual norm for the companies and from oreo its an option to support project treble if the phone is being updated to oreo and mandatory if the phone ships with oreo, now, according to this post https://www.phonearena.com/news/Goo...s-In-Android-9.0-Make-It-More-Closed_id101816 its being said that android p will mandate the support of project treble that means the phone should support project treble regardless of being updated to android p or shipping with the same.
Now the problem arise when oneplus couldn't support project treble with oreo update for oneplus 5t due to partitioning issues. If this is the scenario then theoretically oneplus 5t won't be able to taste android p officially (since project treble is mandatory) and will it end up being the case of oneplus 2 wherein it couldn't taste android nougat ?
Correct me if i'm wrong since i am on oneplus one and now, looking to upgrade and this time seems fit as oreo's project treble would revolutionize the custom rom's department also i simply couldn't deviate from oneplus phones, hence thinking about waiting for the successor of oneplus 5t as it would definitely ship with oreo hence project treble goodness or oneplus 5t could be updated to android p hence having support for project treble.
Oneplus one still holds good for me till date and no need to upgrade if it wasn't for project treble (and 64 bit architecture also).
So what are your thoughts on this ?
I think you're getting way ahead of yourself. Yes it's true that 1+ is not supporting project treble for the foreseeable future but there are two important things to understand.
First, having an OEM support project Treble does not imply that device will get faster updates. manufacturers will still control the compiling and rollout of updates and they will always add their own tweaks and skins which will take time. All PT will do is taking care of the Hardware Abstraction Layer.
Secondly, even though OnePlus phone updates track record isn't impeccable, they're upgrading the 3/3t and 5/5t to Oreo in a fairly timely matter so it's very unlikely that they will abandon two phones that would be around one year old without the newest update.
In any case, all upcoming phones from OnePlus will have to support Treble so the issue will be short lived.
I think that if they want to ALL phones can be re-partitioned for treble, it would however involve a complete loss of all information on the phone and effort on the part of the companies.
For most users this would be unacceptable as it would involve backing up ALL data , settings and contacts on the phone. It would be time intensive and require effort on the OEM's so these companies just go the easy route and say it can't be done...
Nice way of making a butt-load of cash off the next version of phone released too...
Just one company to get the ball rolling would definitely hurt all others if they did this though...
Oos does not even have oreo... And the open beta they call oreo its nougat..
don't expect it lol
Seriously, we don't even have Oreo yet and you are worried about P?
An official release of Android P for a Oneplus device, is over a year away, minimum... Most of us won't even have this phone by then, having upgraded to a newer one.
oreo itself is a dream.
I was just ensuring that the device i go for will be future proof. I don't feel the need to upgrade a phone until major advancement in the field, i still don't fell the urge to upgrade until it was for project treble which seems promising, alongside backed by 64 bit architecture, display ratio etc etc.
So maybe a safe side would be to wait for the oneplus 5t successor.
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I was just ensuring that the device i go for will be future proof. I don't feel the need to upgrade a phone until major advancement in the field, i still don't fell the urge to upgrade until it was for project treble which seems promising, alongside backed by 64 bit architecture, display ratio etc etc.
So maybe a safe side would be to wait for the oneplus 5t successor.
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I'm in your boat. Despite what OnePlus 5t owners say, treble is a big deal. Manufacturers have already come out and said that it's going to make it much easier. That's why all phones starting with 8.0 will have dual partitions. If you can wait, then you should wait for 8.0+ released devices, or phones that currently implement dual partitions. Essential phones are already prepared for Treble, but they've got some QC issues to solve with their overall hardware, so I'd stay away from them.
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I'm in your boat. Despite what OnePlus 5t owners say, treble is a big deal. Manufacturers have already come out and said that it's going to make it much easier. That's why all phones starting with 8.0 will have dual partitions. If you can wait, then you should wait for 8.0+ released devices, or phones that currently implement dual partitions. Essential phones are already prepared for Treble, but they've got some QC issues to solve with their overall hardware, so I'd stay away from them.
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yeah yeah yeah man, you perfectly get me, even i'm skeptical about essential phone despite project treble support, even asus zenfone 4's oreo update brings project treble but not in the way treble's to be implemented.
But the thing bugs me that will 1+5/5T be updated to android p or not since android p will surely bring treble support, because treble + 6 years for LTS for kernels = long live device and probably no need to upgrade phones that frequently.
I guess i'll wait for 1+6 then.
thanks for sharing same mindset bro ! :good:
OnePlus 6 will surely be out b4 Android P, shoot probably even the 6T, and the OP6 and beyond will surely support project treble. Patience is the key.
Who cares about project treble and OxygenOS.. we will always have LineageOS. Chill...
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alexiuss said:
Who cares about project treble and OxygenOS.. we will always have LineageOS. Chill...
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project treble means better lineage os support with minimal to no hacks (shimming) to get things working.
Tell me that doesn't sound good.
Airwolf79 said:
OnePlus 6 will surely be out b4 Android P, shoot probably even the 6T, and the OP6 and beyond will surely support project treble. Patience is the key.
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+1
OP6 is supposed to be released end of March approximately. I would bet dollars to donuts, if they got their act together, it will have Oreo/Treble. Otherwise, they are falling behind the premier makers that will support treble, like the Pixel 2 does now. See what Samsung does with the S9 in the very near future, not sure if it will have treble. If so, it kind of forces OPs hand to have Treble on it's next flagship. Just a thought anyway.
AS far as 5T....well, Oreo is probably good enough for the life of the phone IMO if they get it legit working.
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Oos does not even have oreo... And the open beta they call oreo its nougat..
don't expect it lol
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techlogik said:
OP6 is supposed to be released end of March approximately. I would bet dollars to donuts, if they got their act together, it will have Oreo/Treble. Otherwise, they are falling behind the premier makers that will support treble, like the Pixel 2 does now. See what Samsung does with the S9 in the very near future, not sure if it will have treble. If so, it kind of forces OPs hand to have Treble on it's next flagship. Just a thought anyway.
AS far as 5T....well, Oreo is probably good enough for the life of the phone IMO if they get it legit working.
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OP6 got to have treble if they launch it with oreo, else google won't certify their software.
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Seriously, we don't even have Oreo yet and you are worried about P?
An official release of Android P for a Oneplus device, is over a year away, minimum... Most of us won't even have this phone by then, having upgraded to a newer one.
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??????? Qui ????????
arjun said:
??????? Qui ????????
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Turns out for me, I don't even have the OP5T anymore because it can't do VoLTE on AT&T.
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Turns out for me, I don't even have the OP5T anymore because it can't do VoLTE on AT&T.
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there are rumors about the fact that oneplus will partner with major US carriers for their next flagship, either way OP6 is gonna be a bomb.
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there are rumors about the fact that oneplus will partner with major US carriers for their next flagship, either way OP6 is gonna be a bomb.
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Yeah, that would be awesome. I loved my OP3 and enjoyed the OP5T, but I have to have VoLTE. That is a deal breaker, as I routinely have to tether my work laptop to the phone, so if I am on a conf call with the phone, I lose LTE and it drops down to H+ which is like 3G and slow. Also no HD calling, no WiFi calling.
My Essential doesn't have Wifi Calling either, but it does support VoLTE in AT&T, so I had to return the OP5T and go back to that.
I am a long time OnePlus user, having owned 4 of their models. I was contemplating upgrading to the 7T and was surprised to see there is not as much development for this phone as I would have expected at this point. Is the main reason for this is no TWRP support? What is holding up the TWRP development?
Thanks, in advance.
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I am a long time OnePlus user, having owned 4 of their models. I was contemplating upgrading to the 7T and was surprised to see there is not as much development for this phone as I would have expected at this point. Is the main reason for this is no TWRP support? What is holding up the TWRP development?
Thanks, in advance.
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From what I have seen lack of twrp is the main reason.besodes that I think a good bit of developers have the pro
From what I've read the main twrp dev is on hiatus, due to this and his personal life twrp development is very slow for A10 at the moment, and until that is figured out a proper twrp wont work. Though I've read once a rom is flashed, twrp works? I'm not nearly 10% on that tho. That would require more research than I'm willing to put in atm.
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From what I've read the main twrp dev is on hiatus, due to this and his personal life twrp development is very slow for A10 at the moment, and until that is figured out a proper twrp wont work. Though I've read once a rom is flashed, twrp works? I'm not nearly 10% on that tho. That would require more research than I'm willing to put in atm.
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From what I have seen with the two roms I've seen nothing on a working twrp
This is something that makes hold on the purchase of the device. I don't know if it is better to just get a 7 Pro out of eBay.
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This is something that makes hold on the purchase of the device. I don't know if it is better to just get a 7 Pro out of eBay.
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Seems like the pro has more support honestly
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I am a long time OnePlus user, having owned 4 of their models. I was contemplating upgrading to the 7T and was surprised to see there is not as much development for this phone as I would have expected at this point. Is the main reason for this is no TWRP support? What is holding up the TWRP development?
Thanks, in advance.
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The main issue is with the lack of proper TWRP for 7T and that too because of the partitioning (and related stuffs) system of Android 10. I was too excited when I heard that 7T would be the first device that comes with Android 10 out of the box, but that excitement came to end after a few weeks
Half a year later and still no development for the 7T. It looks like we won't be getting it either? Even the OnePlus 8 Pro has more ROMs and kernels available.
geokilla said:
Half a year later and still no development for the 7T. It looks like we won't be getting it either? Even the OnePlus 8 Pro has more ROMs and kernels available.
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I guess you will need to buy a OnePlus 8 pro than.
Will this issue be fixed after Android 11 ota update?
I've been hearing rumours that Android 11 is gonna fix the partition issues, am I dumb for being hopeful? *crying inside*
derekhatake said:
I've been hearing rumours that Android 11 is gonna fix the partition issues, am I dumb for being hopeful? *crying inside*
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What partition issue?
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What partition issue?
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He probably mean that android 11 is going to fix keystore implementation in OOS (TWRP decryption issue)
Anyone can build pixel experience for op7t? I miss stock android feeling. I tried couple of ROMs. Aosip is the smoothest by far. Very high frame rate overall. Pixel experience in my opinion is best in term of polish stock feeling. Please devs help this project