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So like the title says I want my watch to always be on. So not ambient mode I hate the on and off crap. I want a dimmed but always on watch face if possible. Not worried about battery. Any suggestions?
There's a launcher (?) I think called Swipify I've seen mentioned multiple times for this. There's also at least one face available for purchase on the Play Store that allows you to choose how long it stays on, including always on. I bought it for that gimmick but never really used it. I think it's the "A06 for Moto 360" face.
In any case, understand that "always on" won't make your watch any more a watch than it will a brick, as you're looking at probably less than one hour of battery life with the screen always on.
1 hour is exaggerating. Either way the whole point of these things should be to be a watch first and foremost, and a notification hub second. LG G watch has a always on option built in and it lasts all day just fine, so I do not think what im asking is too absurd.
Well, you're asking if there are apps to do that. I answered that much.
But as far as what you're hoping you'll get, you seriously need to readjust your expectations. It sounds like you didn't do your homework prior to buying this watch. Undoubtedly this is the nicest looking smart watch now. But the battery life is not great. I get about a full day's worth with the screen turning off constantly.
I can guarantee you, you will not get a full day's battery of this watch with the screen always on. I don't know much about the LG G Watch, but I also highly doubt the whole day of battery you're talking about is with the screen on always.
I get what you're saying. It would be ideal. But battery technology is not at a point where it can power a full LCD screen for a whole day on a single battery charge. Try either of the ones I suggested and see how far it gets you. I might do it just for testing purposes at some point.
Take it down a notch bud. I did a lot of research before I bought this device. Perhaps you should do some with the way screens operate. You can in other similar watches like the G watch have everything turn off and throttle down but keep the time on the screen. The g watch turns everything to black and keeps the time and date still on screen. No reason this watch cannot do the same. I was merely asking if an app was released yet that does this. As most apps like the one you listed does this but keeps the CPU throttled up and the screen drawing more power. Hence why the battery gets killed. Do some research before talking next time. there are a million videos on youtube showing you exactly what im talking about.
Love the watch not complaining, I just want to squeez all the goodness out of it I can.
iMurderous said:
1 hour is exaggerating. Either way the whole point of these things should be to be a watch first and foremost, and a notification hub second. LG G watch has a always on option built in and it lasts all day just fine, so I do not think what im asking is too absurd.
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The difference is because of the display technology. As you know (or may not?), LCDs illuminate the entire display, whereas OLEDs (LG, Asus, Samsung) only illuminate the individual pixels, thus reducing power consumption by utilizing a simpler display graphic to use as the 'always on' portion.
To have your Moto 360 always on would be a huge drain on the battery life because of the power consumption to illuminate the display. LCDs are simply not capable of selectively illuminating pixels.
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The difference is because of the display technology. As you know (or may not?), LCDs illuminate the entire display, whereas OLEDs (LG, Asus, Samsung) only illuminate the individual pixels, thus reducing power consumption by utilizing a simpler display graphic to use as the 'always on' portion.
To have your Moto 360 always on would be a huge drain on the battery life because of the power consumption to illuminate the display. LCDs are simply not capable of selectively illuminating pixels.
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To be fair, the G watch is also LCD. The gear live is amoled.
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To be fair, the G watch is also LCD. The gear live is amoled.
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Well I was referring to the R, which I assumed is what he was referring to as well... but if he's saying the LG G watch is capable of that, then I dunno what to say.
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Well I was referring to the R, which I assumed is what he was referring to as well... but if he's saying the LG G watch is capable of that, then I dunno what to say.
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The reason the g watch is able to is because it's built with a larger battery. I had the g watch briefly and it was nice in terms of battery but just didn't hold a candle to the 360 IMO. It is a quality device though.
I'd like an always on option as well for my moto 360.
The always on mode ...is not actually a always on totally. ..it just dims to show only the dials and not the back ground. ..the lg g watch R and the gear live with oled screens will burn in if they are totally always on. .
But yes. .using apps like facer..you can select which layer you can keep dimmed on always on mode on the lg g watch. ..but that will eat battery up.
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WatchMaker lets you set up to 30s stay awake.
Lol. Dude, you really need to do your research. You'd get MAYBE three hours max with the screen on like that. Your attitude against people who are trying to inform you and help you (you know because that's the point of your post where YOU asked for OUR help) is atrocious. If you knew it all you wouldn't need to ask this question. The first guy who responded to you gave you real experience and opinion, and you told him he was exaggerating and to "take it down a notch". Lol.
Ridiculous. Hope you find what you're looking for. Let us know the moment you can get a full day of screen on time with the 360. I won't hold my breath.
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Not sure if this helps but like you I like a watch to be a watch and very close second I really like all the features for notifications that the smart watches make. I have had my Moto 360 for a little over a week now and I use it for keeping time and getting the basic notifications like SMS, Emails and Google Now info like weather. I do not have any other apps installed and with the Ambient Mode ON and brightness set to 2 I have been able to get 36 hours (at most) out of it with light to moderate use . The watch face I use is the preinstalled digital one. It dims just right but it will go to a black screen when there is very little movement detected. I can very slightly move my wrist and it will activate the dimmed time mode so I can see it without having to drastically twist my wrist and bring the watch up to my face.
Hope that helps.
If you find what you are looking please be sure to share as I am interested in this also.
Just to satisfy curiosity, I went ahead and tried this "always on" thing. I used the "A06 for Moto 360" face I mentioned in my initial reply, which is paid for on the Play Store so I won't link. It's not that great looking either, but it does have the option to have the watch Always On.
So, fully charged, I disconnected from the charger at 12:16 PM and changed the face to the one in question. I enabled Always On and set Brightness to max. With no usage of the watch other than to swipe away notifications and to use as a watch (i.e. looking at it for the time), the battery ran out exactly at 4:54 PM, or 4 hours and 38 minutes later. Admittedly, this was longer than my estimated one hour battery life, but again I wasn't doing anything with the watch. I didn't reply to messages, I didn't play games, I didn't check my heartbeat, I didn't control music. Only swipe away notifications and look at the time. Not quite 5 hours.
I guess it may be worth it if you're using a fancy face and going out for a date or something and you're fully charged before going. But it's useless as a daily driver with that kind of battery life.
Your very wrong. First and foremost it should be a watch. I bought a pebble for that same reason. Now before you go saying it's different due to it's e-ink display, I also own a Microsoft band and it's a color screen. I have my band with the watch always on and I user the sleep monitor every night. It easily lasts through almost 2 days and that's with constant notifications and checking pulse often.
It can most definitely be done.
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Your very wrong. First and foremost it should be a watch. I bought a pebble for that same reason. Now before you go saying it's different due to it's e-ink display, I also own a Microsoft band and it's a color screen. I have my band with the watch always on and I user the sleep monitor every night. It easily lasts through almost 2 days and that's with constant notifications and checking pulse often.
It can most definitely be done.
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So a galaxy gear S with tizen OS and amoled screen. With a large display and 3g, WiFi,GPS and phone calling with only 300mah will work for 2 days....
The moto 360 will not... Just accept it and move along
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So what's the point of wanting the screen always on? Are your eyes on the screen with your hands at your sides? Are you trying to show off? I don't think the whole "it should be a watch first & foremost" thing is a good enough excuse. As far as I can see, I can tell the time just fine without the screen being on 24/7. As a matter of fact, I guarantee I can tell the time every single time you can if we check our watches at the same time. No added functionality. Decrease in battery life. I see no win here. But to each there own. Charge your watch every 3 hours. I'm happy charging mine every night.
It's definitely wanting others to see his watch when he's not looking at it. Otherwise they see a black screen. I wanted that too but then realized I couldn't and moved on.
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I only get 10-14 hours out of mine but I have a bunch of apps installed. Not sure where the battery drain is because its not like most of them stay running. Maybe google fit is the big drain, but its a nice feature and I don't need much more than 12 hours. Hopefully in the future this will get an easier root (without the interface clock) and an underclock for more battery life. That's very possible. I don't need my watch running at 1 GHz and I'm willing to bet the kernel is a huge part of the battery problem (as well as the smaller battery). But hacks could fix the watch I think.
Hey guys, just have a few questions for mto owners that I haven't seen answered anywhere. I am interested in picking one of these devices up but I have a couple reservations.
My main question is how does the display look in dark areas, like at a bar or while driving at night. I really don't want a bright cell phone screen strapped to my wrist, like how the samsung watches look. Is this one properly dim (especially without having to mess with settings) for night time settings so it just appears like a normal watch, or does it look too bright.
The other thing I was wondering was what are the major drawbacks, I have heard it can be annoying to drive with cause the screen goes blank and comes back one when making turns cause it thinks your flipping your wrist.
Is there a setting to keep the watchface on 24/7 as well, not crazy about having a blank screen strapped to my wrist?
Any help would be appreciated.
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Hey guys, just have a few questions for mto owners that I haven't seen answered anywhere. I am interested in picking one of these devices up but I have a couple reservations.
My main question is how does the display look in dark areas, like at a bar or while driving at night. I really don't want a bright cell phone screen strapped to my wrist, like how the samsung watches look. Is this one properly dim (especially without having to mess with settings) for night time settings so it just appears like a normal watch, or does it look too bright.
The other thing I was wondering was what are the major drawbacks, I have heard it can be annoying to drive with cause the screen goes blank and comes back one when making turns cause it thinks your flipping your wrist.
Is there a setting to keep the watchface on 24/7 as well, not crazy about having a blank screen strapped to my wrist?
Any help would be appreciated.
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I am also looking into getting one, The one question I can help you with from my research is that you can have the screen always on but it will drain your battery faster and generally iv'e been hearing that it barely lasts a full day
thecrunked said:
Hey guys, just have a few questions for mto owners that I haven't seen answered anywhere. I am interested in picking one of these devices up but I have a couple reservations.
My main question is how does the display look in dark areas, like at a bar or while driving at night. I really don't want a bright cell phone screen strapped to my wrist, like how the samsung watches look. Is this one properly dim (especially without having to mess with settings) for night time settings so it just appears like a normal watch, or does it look too bright.
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Works well - screen lights up, but dimmed (if you have auto-brightness on). Low enough to still see, but not bright enough to brighten a room
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The other thing I was wondering was what are the major drawbacks, I have heard it can be annoying to drive with cause the screen goes blank and comes back one when making turns cause it thinks your flipping your wrist..
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Battery - Most days I'll get 15-18 hours, but then for no reason, I'll get terrible battery life the next day.
Screen does tend to come on when driving - never really notice it during the day, but at night you can definitely tell. I just changed my driving style (lower left hand and use right to turn wheel instead) and it rarely comes on. Not much of an issue when it does though.
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Is there a setting to keep the watchface on 24/7 as well, not crazy about having a blank screen strapped to my wrist?
Any help would be appreciated.
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Yes, you can keep ambiance on, but it does drain the battery fast. I had it on but then realized I'm not looking at the watch 24/7. When I do flick my wrist, 99% of the time it lights up really quickly.
thecrunked said:
Hey guys, just have a few questions for mto owners that I haven't seen answered anywhere. I am interested in picking one of these devices up but I have a couple reservations.
My main question is how does the display look in dark areas, like at a bar or while driving at night. I really don't want a bright cell phone screen strapped to my wrist, like how the samsung watches look. Is this one properly dim (especially without having to mess with settings) for night time settings so it just appears like a normal watch, or does it look too bright.
The other thing I was wondering was what are the major drawbacks, I have heard it can be annoying to drive with cause the screen goes blank and comes back one when making turns cause it thinks your flipping your wrist.
Is there a setting to keep the watchface on 24/7 as well, not crazy about having a blank screen strapped to my wrist?
Any help would be appreciated.
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agreed with Hustlaz 100%.
also, just want to add that before you get it, first determine why you want it. if you want it to keep track of your steps/heart rate as well as get notifications sent to your wrist, then this is ideal. if you are looking for a nice time-piece that lasts all day, then a conventional watch is a better route.
i've had mine for a little over 2 weeks, and battery life has been great - even with ambient on (although, the screen still goes blank with this setting, just not as quickly, so I have turned this feature off). most reviews you might have read about battery life we're probably before the 11/9 software update. i got mine just after this update, so I can't make a fair comparison here.
otherwise, the watch works as advertised - just beware that when using the google fit app on your phone, your phone's battery will take a major hit (but you can disable the activity detection). otherwise, no noticeable hit on my phone's (moto x) battery life.
essentially, the way it works is that the watch acts like a mirror for your phone - you can also mute certain apps notifications from appearing on your watch.
my only concerns is that the steps data does not sync from my watch to my phone properly (hoping that the google fit app will be updated to accept this with activity detection disabled or at least fix the battery drain), and that when viewing those google now cards (such as weather, sports scores, traffic, etc) on my phone and I swipe them away, they also disappear from my phone - would like to keep them on my phone. I'm sure there is a setting to adjust this, just have not had the time to see for myself.
the good news is that you can buy one at Best Buy, try it out for a week, and if you don't like, you can return it. problem is that you may actually like it too much whereby you won't want to return it and you find yourself keeping your watch on all the time.
I'm currently searching for an Android Wear watch and torn between the Moto 360 and Asus Zenwatch. I like the look of both of them. I feel the Moto360 will be more masculine, but the Zenwatch is more recent and has better specs screen/battery wise.
I've found conflicting/confusing information with all the updates Moto360 has received. So, is there a way for ambient mode on the 360 to stay on and if so, what is the battery life? Or is it that the ambient mode only stays on with stock watchfaces, but not custom?
I just don't know about having a giant black disk on my wrist when the watch is off, plus how 'future proof' is the Moto360 with its TI processor?
I know this is the Moto360 forum, but any feedback is appreciated.
Just a quick update to my question to make sure I understand.
The Moto360 will turn off when sideways, be in ambient mode when tilted, and full mode when tilted towards your face, correct?
That is correct and those were the two I was deciding went to best buy and liked the moto but that's the point which ever puts the biggest smile is the one you get. Yes the moto has some older specs but it works great battery is good and I use ambient mode quite a bit I like it better than tilt to wake
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Just a quick update to my question to make sure I understand.
The Moto360 will turn off when sideways, be in ambient mode when tilted, and full mode when tilted towards your face, correct?
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You seem to be confusing tilt to wake with ambient mode .....
2 different things
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but that's the point which ever puts the biggest smile is the one you get.
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Thanks, unfortunately, none of the Best Buy's near me have the Asus in stock. My wife ordered one, so I may just wait for hers to arrive and compare it to the Moto 360 Best Buy had.
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You seem to be confusing tilt to wake with ambient mode .....
2 different things
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I understand that, but without tilt to wake, where does ambient mode come in to effect? Does your full watchface dim, then it goes to ambient mode for xx seconds, then goes dark? I had the Pebble, upgraded to the Gear 2, not realizing apps have to be coded to your phone to show up in the Gear store. But the Gear 2 had tilt to wake, and the lag or fact that sometimes it didn't turn on and I'd have to hit the button annoyed me.
In ambient mode when you raise your arm it will be dimmed instead of when tilt to wake is on it will come on full screen. Instead of timing out while looking at it it will go to ambient mode as well but then nearly half a second it turns off lol sorry I'm staring at my watch and phone but I'm pretty sure that's how it works.
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I just bought a 360 1st gen yesterday.
No good 1st impressions at all.
1. After pairing with phone, which needed a watch factory reset, the watch was so HOT that the back burnt fingers. Of course, the stupid plastic back cracked on a side. New&cracked! Fine.
2. Obviously, this is an instrument of Google's " surveillance", and I have an insistent "Ok Google" just in the middle of the beautiful watch face impossible to eliminate. Maybe after rooting?
3 Battery drain reminds me the Ni-Cd era... My favorite watch faces appear to be the most hungry, that's OK.
4 There's no way to set the watch sensitivity to movement, this allows to more batt drain, as, even on "ambient Off", a minimal moving can wake the face.
Re-take my Sony SW 2 and don't know what to do with the ("cracked") Moto.
I think eliminating some unuseful sensors (for me) can improve batt life. But how to do it?
Wow, this is 180 degrees from my experience with the Moto 360. And I too went from a Sony SW2 to the Moto 360. I don't have a heat issue with the watch, so perhaps you have a hardware issue and should return it for replacement.
The OK Google issue is an easy fix... simply saying OK Google at the watch a few times will turn off the constant pop-ups. That issue and fix is a well-reported one here and elsewhere.
Battery life... I get well over a day and a half with normal use. I turn off ambient display and wrist gestures. I usually charge my watch nightly, so charging the watch eery day isn't a big deal to me.
I haven't worn the SW2 since getting the Moto 360, but the looks and interactions with the Moto 360 are so far better than the SW2 that even though I liked the SW2 I haven't felt the urge to put it back on.
This is my first smart watch and the first couple of days I was really disappointed with the battery. Would only go from 8am to around 6 or 7pm. Now a few days later its from 9am until now ( nearly 6pm) on 78% yesterday was a different face but still around the same.
How to change or eliminate wrist gestures?
I don't see nothing nor in watch neither A W app.
Another thing: I think I must update to 5.1.1 to have some functions. And, as I see on this forum, it's a little tricky (not so much for someone with flashing experience...).
But, why this update bug?
It seems to me that A Wear is in the equivalent Eclair-Froyo era, which maybe some of you weren't suffered..
This needs yet a year or more to get optimal results, then we understand that our money fly too easy, like the 500€ that costed the Droid 1.
So there is a guy selling a used Moto 360 v1 black in excellent condition and the battery has no problem with a day of juice (from what he said).
No cracked back either.
I am thinking to get a smart watch because I am bored of my classic watches, one got scratches on the glass and the other is boring.
Why the Moto 360? because I want the bigger screen possible as I have a bit trouble reading LCD screens with small fonts.
Here my questions:
-How easy the back can get cracks? Jogging with this watch for example is a bad idea?
-Is it true latest updates made this watch much faster and lags are ironed out?
-About battery cycles, if I use tilt to wake will it empty the battery too fast?
-I saw complaint about the battery completely dying after 2 years more or less, are all Moto 360 v1 having this problem or it's lottery?
I've had a Moto 360 since shortly after launch, and it's still working on its original battery (though it only gets one day now, not two, and my main use is for checking the time, weather forecast, and sometimes alerts — definitely light use).
I've always used tilt to wake (wasn't even aware that could be turned off, except by putting it into theater mode). It's pseudo-ambient display mode will drain the battery much quicker, though.
I've heard the back cracking happens to folks with small wrists, which isn't me. Back on mine is fine.
Haven't had any lag problems since the first updates, but again my use is light.
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I've had a Moto 360 since shortly after launch, and it's still working on its original battery (though it only gets one day now, not two, and my main use is for checking the time, weather forecast, and sometimes alerts — definitely light use).
I've always used tilt to wake (wasn't even aware that could be turned off, except by putting it into theater mode). It's pseudo-ambient display mode will drain the battery much quicker, though.
I've heard the back cracking happens to folks with small wrists, which isn't me. Back on mine is fine.
Haven't had any lag problems since the first updates, but again my use is light.
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Yeah, all that true but most likely - forget about upgrading to 2.0