Hey everyone!
I wanted to root my Pixel 2 XL but I noticed that Oreo 8.1 is rolling out today. (Some of my friends already got the update, apparently). I wanted to know if I were to root my phone on 8.0, would I continue to have root when I update to 8.1 or would I have to redo the process again from the start?
Thank you in advance!
You have to be 100% stock to install an update from ota. You won't be able to install the update it will just fail as you would have a modified system.
rjbad1100 said:
Hey everyone! I wanted to root my Pixel 2 XL but I noticed that Oreo 8.1 is rolling out today. (Some of my friends already got the update, apparently). I wanted to know if I were to root my phone on 8.0, would I continue to have root when I update to 8.1 or would I have to redo the process again from the start? Thank you in advance!
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At this point I would just wait if I were you. Let your device take 8.1 and then use one of the rooting tutorials. Otherwise (as you suspect) you will be doing things twice. I just got my device Saturday afternoon and couldn't wait, knowing this week we would be getting some kind of an update and I would have to re-apply. Unlocking and Critical Unlocking would be the first step if you haven't taken care of that yet. Just spend some time reading up on the method and correct sequence, downloading and placing the files you will need so that when the time comes you will be ready.
If you haven't unlocked the bootloader, now would be a good time.
Thanks everyone! Very quick and helpful responses
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Hi folks.
Been lurking for a while, but this is my first post.
I've been looking into rooting my SM-G870W (Galaxy S5 Active, Canadian, Telus) for a while now. It's currently updated to Android 6.0.1.
I've read a lot of different information and I've held off on actually trying it because of several posters saying they've bricked their phone or had no luck.
To the best of my knowledge and research, there is no "plug and play" app or program that will root automatically. Is this accurate?
I have read of manual recommendations or guides that say they work.
This site, being the foremost authority as far as I'm concerned, is my last step in research.
Can anyone please advise if this is possible for this phone and version?
If so, is there an existing guide that is reputable that I could follow?
I thank you in advance.
A little late to post. But I am having no luck rooting my SM-870W on Telus. I used Odin and the CF-Auto-Root-kltecanactive-kltevlactive-smg870w for Marshmallow 6.0.1
I just end up with "Recovery is SeAndroid enforcing"
I then have to flash back the stock rom
Tomorrow when I have time, I am going to downgrade back to Lollipop to root it. If successful, then I will use Flashfire to update to Marshmallow 6.0.1 and see how that goes.
Well so far I successfully downgraded my phone back to Lollipop and rerooted it. . Tomorrow or next week will try updating with flashfire
I tried again to root marshmallow using flashfire, and it boot looped. So just going to stay on Lollipop and keep rooted. Will probably upgrade phone soon anyway. I don't know how others on youtube etc say they have done it, but it's not working for me.
Thanks for posting
I too have the same model phone and I'm running into the exact same issue you are. Thanks for posting which lets me know I'm not the only one facing this problem
windrider42 said:
I tried again to root marshmallow using flashfire, and it boot looped. So just going to stay on Lollipop and keep rooted. Will probably upgrade phone soon anyway. I don't know how others on youtube etc say they have done it, but it's not working for me.
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Hello all,
Long time lurker, though first time poster. I have a Verizon Pixel XL that I have unlocked the bootloader and rooted the phone on Android 7.0. I am now getting a system notification that I can update to Android 7.1. I'm unsure truly if I should proceed with it or not.
Don't want to lock my phone out as I am afraid of the repercussions.
Summary: Unlocked bootloader on Verizon Pixel XL with root trying to see if it is possible to update over system update to 7.1
Thank you in advance! ?
DreyX said:
Hello all,
Long time lurker, though first time poster. I have a Verizon Pixel XL that I have unlocked the bootloader and rooted the phone on Android 7.0. I am now getting a system notification that I can update to Android 7.1. I'm unsure truly if I should proceed with it or not.
Don't want to lock my phone out as I am afraid of the repercussions.
Summary: Unlocked bootloader on Verizon Pixel XL with root trying to see if it is possible to update over system update to 7.1
Thank you in advance! ?
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It would fail if you try since you're rooted. You'll need to sideload the OTA via recovery, then root again via fastboot before first the boot.
krypto1300 said:
It would fail if you try since you're rooted. You'll need to sideload the OTA via recovery, then root again via fastboot before first the boot.
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Thank you. Will give it a shot.
DreyX said:
Hello all,
Long time lurker, though first time poster. I have a Verizon Pixel XL that I have unlocked the bootloader and rooted the phone on Android 7.0. I am now getting a system notification that I can update to Android 7.1. I'm unsure truly if I should proceed with it or not.
Don't want to lock my phone out as I am afraid of the repercussions.
Summary: Unlocked bootloader on Verizon Pixel XL with root trying to see if it is possible to update over system update to 7.1
Thank you in advance!
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Same situation as you,
Got a question for ya, I just unlocked bootloader also yet its still gray. Is yours?
I expected it to fail as I have UL bootloader and am rooted, I tried it anyway and it worked. I was surprised. I got updated to V firmware (I'm in the UK, EE network, previously had H firmware). Bootloader remained unlocked but lost root. I rerooted after update without issues. Hope this helps.
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I expected it to fail as I have UL bootloader and am rooted, I tried it anyway and it worked. I was surprised. I got updated to V firmware (I'm in the UK, EE network, previously had H firmware). Bootloader remained unlocked but lost root. I rerooted after update without issues. Hope this helps.
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I want to install the update but don't want to lose root is there a guide somewhere on how to side load it with adb?
canemaxx said:
I want to install the update but don't want to lose root is there a guide somewhere on how to side load it with adb?
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I'm pretty sure that can't be done. If you update, you'll lose root but it only takes two minutes to re root.
nbhadusia said:
I expected it to fail as I have UL bootloader and am rooted, I tried it anyway and it worked. I was surprised. I got updated to V firmware (I'm in the UK, EE network, previously had H firmware). Bootloader remained unlocked but lost root. I rerooted after update without issues. Hope this helps.
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So you took the OTA or side loaded the OTA? If you took the OTA and it succeeded while being rooted, that would be great news.
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I'm pretty sure that can't be done. If you update, you'll lose root but it only takes two minutes to re root.
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lyall29 said:
So you took the OTA or side loaded the OTA? If you took the OTA and it succeeded while being rooted, that would be great news.
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Sideload the OTA then boot to bootloader and redo root before fully rebooting to android. Worked for me.
Sideloading OTA with custom kernel
Is the process for sideloading an OTA different if you have a custom kernel? I'd imagine simply sideloading it wouldn't work.
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I'm pretty sure that can't be done. If you update, you'll lose root but it only takes two minutes to re root.
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Pretty much the same process to root it again after the update? Same root method?
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So should we anticipate having to sideload every OTA update from this point forward as well? Along with having to root the phone again? Or do we expect OTA updates to work on rooted Verizon phones with the bootloader unlocked in the future?
Forgive the ignorance but the last few phones have been developer edition or have had simpler root methods.
le0.br4zuc4 said:
Pretty much the same process to root it again after the update? Same root method?
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Yup. Same method.
Hello. I'm pretty terrible at all this rooting stuff (or at least, I only do it once for each android phone I get, and then don't really look into it or stay up to date on all of it afterwards, I just use a few pluses that come along with being rooted).... Anyways, I really do need some help this time, as the confusion has really gotten to me, and I've lacked being able to find some simple answers (probably because they are just THAT simple) on google/reddit/on this forum.
Anyways, I've rooted my phone awhile back, lost it when my verizon pixel auto updated to 7.1.1 (idk how or why, pretty sure I had that disabled with root even, very frustrated) and even attempted to regain root by flashing SU with TWRP, but for some reason SU said I didn't have root still, and eventually just gave up in frustration. But now, my verizon pixel has been shutting off at ~40% battery power, and I read in the google forums that this was patched in the 7.1.2 update for pixels, and it was a software glitch rather than a malfunctioning/bad battery... So now I really want to upgrade to 7.1.2 from 7.1.1 not only to fix the battery/software issue, but also because I really want root.
I have an unlocked bootloader from when i first got my pixel and did this stuff, but now im unrooted on 7.1.1 because of that update awhile back, and want to update to 7.1.2 and root, but I've heard theres issues with rooting on the verizon because of bootloader, but that shoulden't be an issue since I unlocked it already (right? at least, I think? please let me know).
My only question (since i think i'll be able to follow this guide once I get the answer to this) is in the post he says: "Works with 7.1.2 (NJH47F, Aug 2017)".......... but since i have the verizon pixel (small version, not XL), should i be downloading this version: 7.1.2 (NHG47Q, Aug 2017, Verizon).... Or would it just be acceptable to allow my phone to auto download the update i have on it right now? Or must I download the NON verizon version as stated in the post and flash that one? Thanks for the help guys!
Thanks for any help!
-Synk
If your bootloader is actually unlocked then no update that you flash can lock it. The people that were having problems on Verizon had phones where the OEM Unlock option was there and then after a Verizon update was greyed out. But those people didn't have unlocked bootloaders. Once the bootloader on the phone is unlocked Verizon can't lock it again.
The Pixel phone isn't really a good one to root once and then forget about it because sometimes the instructions change--people needed to flash a boot signature file one month to maintain root but didn't need to do it anymore the following month. Sometimes a particular version of SU stops working after an update and you have to download a newer version. The Pixel isn't like a Nexus where flashing and rooting was simple and easy.
I don't know of any reason you wouldn't be able to root after flashing a Verizon image as long as your bootloader is unlocked but someone with experience rooting a Verizon phone would be better able to answer that.
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If your bootloader is actually unlocked then no update that you flash can lock it. The people that were having problems on Verizon had phones where the OEM Unlock option was there and then after a Verizon update was greyed out. But those people didn't have unlocked bootloaders. Once the bootloader on the phone is unlocked Verizon can't lock it again.
The Pixel phone isn't really a good one to root once and then forget about it because sometimes the instructions change--people needed to flash a boot signature file one month to maintain root but didn't need to do it anymore the following month. Sometimes a particular version of SU stops working after an update and you have to download a newer version. The Pixel isn't like a Nexus where flashing and rooting was simple and easy.
I don't know of any reason you wouldn't be able to root after flashing a Verizon image as long as your bootloader is unlocked but someone with experience rooting a Verizon phone would be better able to answer that.
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Thank you so much for the explanation. Truly, it's actually crazy how I was unable to find all of this neatly, nicely, and simply stated. Great to hear, I'm going to go on rooting, here's to hoping I don't blow it up.
Hey guys. I'm sorry to ask the same question again (like others do) but i'm really confused. Today my pixel xl will arrive. I will unlock the bootloader, flash twrp and put a custom rom on it. I thought about lineageos 15.1. In the rom thread are advices that you have to be on 8.1. before everything will work smoothly. So my work process will be - wait for 8.1 OTA and then start all the processes.
But in some thread there's a warning that rooting will be difficult and in some others that there's no problem.
I really don't know what's the best way to do all this before something goes wrong. Can anybody help me out?
Hey guys, been lurking until my device finally got here. I'm coming from an LG G3 (yes, I hold on to phones for a long time) which I was able to root pretty easily, so I am not unfamiliar with TWRP, backups, recovery, etc.
I got an unlocked US -01 variant that comes preloaded with Nougat 7.1.1. I haven't connected to a service provider yet. I have notification of a system update to NPSS26.118-24-6 which looks like the Sept 2017 security update.
I wanted to know if it was ok to OTA update and then root. I do want Oreo, but I don't know if that is available OTA in the US yet.
Also, do I still need to contact Motorola about unlocking the bootloader with the option to "OEM Unlocking" available in developer options?
Thanks everyone!
You can update normally before rooting but if you root, be aware that you could end up bricking the device if you try to update while being rooted.
I would suggest you read the guides here in XDA if you really need root, but be aware of problems that may appear.
Fixing a LG device is pretty easy compared to a Moto device.
Regarding unlocking the bootloader, you only need to follow the steps in the Moto site, they send you a code to unlock and everything.
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You can update normally before rooting but if you root, be aware that you could end up bricking the device if you try to update while being rooted.
I would suggest you read the guides here in XDA if you really need root, but be aware of problems that may appear.
Fixing a LG device is pretty easy compared to a Moto device.
Regarding unlocking the bootloader, you only need to follow the steps in the Moto site, they send you a code to unlock and everything.
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Thanks Victor. Like I said, I have been lurker around the forum for a while now. I think I have a pretty good grasp of the steps for the Z2 Play from a few sources. There just isn't quite a thorough and comprehensive guide or development like other phones I have had.
So I can OTA update and then root if I wanted to. I know never to OTA after rooting.
My LG crapped out on me. I think it's overheating. But you are correct, it is very easy to take apart and troubleshoot. I basically cooked the motherboard at 360 degrees F for 10 minutes in the oven and got it working again for about 4 weeks until it crapped out again.