Hey guys, been lurking until my device finally got here. I'm coming from an LG G3 (yes, I hold on to phones for a long time) which I was able to root pretty easily, so I am not unfamiliar with TWRP, backups, recovery, etc.
I got an unlocked US -01 variant that comes preloaded with Nougat 7.1.1. I haven't connected to a service provider yet. I have notification of a system update to NPSS26.118-24-6 which looks like the Sept 2017 security update.
I wanted to know if it was ok to OTA update and then root. I do want Oreo, but I don't know if that is available OTA in the US yet.
Also, do I still need to contact Motorola about unlocking the bootloader with the option to "OEM Unlocking" available in developer options?
Thanks everyone!
You can update normally before rooting but if you root, be aware that you could end up bricking the device if you try to update while being rooted.
I would suggest you read the guides here in XDA if you really need root, but be aware of problems that may appear.
Fixing a LG device is pretty easy compared to a Moto device.
Regarding unlocking the bootloader, you only need to follow the steps in the Moto site, they send you a code to unlock and everything.
victorhbm15 said:
You can update normally before rooting but if you root, be aware that you could end up bricking the device if you try to update while being rooted.
I would suggest you read the guides here in XDA if you really need root, but be aware of problems that may appear.
Fixing a LG device is pretty easy compared to a Moto device.
Regarding unlocking the bootloader, you only need to follow the steps in the Moto site, they send you a code to unlock and everything.
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Thanks Victor. Like I said, I have been lurker around the forum for a while now. I think I have a pretty good grasp of the steps for the Z2 Play from a few sources. There just isn't quite a thorough and comprehensive guide or development like other phones I have had.
So I can OTA update and then root if I wanted to. I know never to OTA after rooting.
My LG crapped out on me. I think it's overheating. But you are correct, it is very easy to take apart and troubleshoot. I basically cooked the motherboard at 360 degrees F for 10 minutes in the oven and got it working again for about 4 weeks until it crapped out again.
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Hi all
I recently purchased an LG G3 mobile and it is running lollipop 5.0 on o2 and I would like to change a few things 1. change the colour of that orange top in the messaging app - people have told me I need root for this so my question is:
What is the best and safest root process for me to use as I have never rooted before and havnt got a clue, I just do not want to break the mobile as its brand new. I don't want it to change any counters, timers, warrantys or do anything else and especially I do NOT want it to stop me getting OTA android updates
thank you hope somebody can help me cheers
[Guide]LG One Click Root - root LG firmwares (KitKat / Lollipop)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/general/guide-root-lg-firmwares-kitkat-lollipop-t3056951
arnie2012 said:
Hi all
I recently purchased an LG G3 mobile and it is running lollipop 5.0 on o2 and I would like to change a few things 1. change the colour of that orange top in the messaging app - people have told me I need root for this so my question is:
What is the best and safest root process for me to use as I have never rooted before and havnt got a clue, I just do not want to break the mobile as its brand new. I don't want it to change any counters, timers, warrantys or do anything else and especially I do NOT want it to stop me getting OTA android updates
thank you hope somebody can help me cheers
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Hi there.
As soon as you root any phone you immediately lose your warranty. However if you ever need to send it for repair, you can easily revert the process these days.
LG, unlike Samsung, has not what you call "timers" meaning a record if you have rooted and how many times you have flashed your phone so you are pretty safe on that aspect as LG cannot tell. Even on Samsung these days there are ways to revert the so called "timers" to null.
Once you root your phone you will also lose the capability of OTA's but as I said this can be easily undone...you unroot, update the OTA and root again. (if a root method is available for that specific version of OTA which usually is and if not it comes out usually in a few days/weeks)
Hope this clarifies your doubts.
***One word of advice: read, read and read. Rooting and flashing custom ROMS is fun and custom ROMS are way better than stock. Just take your time to learn and don't be in a hurry. This way nothing will happen to your phone.
Hope this helps you and if I did please press the thanks button.
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Hi there.
As soon as you root any phone you immediately lose your warranty. However if you ever need to send it for repair, you can easily revert the process these days.
LG, unlike Samsung, has not what you call "timers" meaning a record if you have rooted and how many times you have flashed your phone so you are pretty safe on that aspect as LG cannot tell. Even on Samsung these days there are ways to revert the so called "timers" to null.
Once you root your phone you will also lose the capability of OTA's but as I said this can be easily undone...you unroot, update the OTA and root again. (if a root method is available for that specific version of OTA which usually is and if not it comes out usually in a few days/weeks)
Hope this clarifies your doubts.
***One word of advice: read, read and read. Rooting and flashing custom ROMS is fun and custom ROMS are way better than stock. Just take your time to learn and don't be in a hurry. This way nothing will happen to your phone.
Hope this helps you and if I did please press the thanks button.
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thank you very much for your info, so I shall just use the link posted about and root that way. Although I DO NOT intend to use a custom rom. one of the reasons I want to root is to get rid of the stupid Mcafee app that comes on the LG G3
arnie2012 said:
thank you very much for your info, so I shall just use the link posted about and root that way. Although I DO NOT intend to use a custom rom. one of the reasons I want to root is to get rid of the stupid Mcafee app that comes on the LG G3
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Yes mate just follow that tutorial and you will be alright. Don't forget to read well first so that you will know what you are doing and nothing wrong will happen.
You don't have to install custom ROMS though. There are an immense amount of things you will be able to do to your phone once rooted.
Enjoy!
I just got my G4 Unlocked international H815 model. It's running 5.1 software on ATT. It keeps bugging me trying to OTA software update. Not sure what it's trying to update to exactly, because the only way to see more info is to hit continue with update and there's no turning back from there.
I love this phone unlocked! it didn't have any bloatware I usually root to delete when I get my phone from the carrier. It's got stuff like Wifi hotspot stock and the FM radio and charges over QI instead of Powercrap ... etc.
My question is
if it's already got most of the stuff I root to access, do I let the OTA update happen and risk not being able to root?
not sure what all I'd gain.
I'm wary about rooting because my last phone was the LG G3 and I rooted it and despite me disabling all update processes, it updated itself one day on my way to work and got screwed up so bad I had to force a downgrade and put a rom on it and after a couple days of holding a 600$ paperweight, I finally got it up and running on a rom... still had some bugs but it worked.
I REALLY want to avoid that nightmare with this 3 day old phone.
opinions welcome!
Thanks
Are you saying it's already rooted? If it is, the OTA won't work anyway. You have to unroot and flash the update using LG bridge. but then you can just root it again using the same method. The update doesn't block root. Lots of us have done it. Read the rooting threads.
G4 TweaksBox. One reason to root. ^_^
Adaway, no more adverts in apps. another (big for me) reason to root.
What version are you on now? It's probably only the stagefright fix.
Root...flash TWRP...flash cyanogen 12.1
Install xposed framework and get the YouTube adaway module. That's deffo a reason to ROOT.
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Root...flash TWRP...flash cyanogen 12.1
Install xposed framework and get the YouTube adaway module. That's deffo a reason to ROOT.
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You need an unlocked bootloader to flash TWRP / CM.
I'm running stock v10d + root. Works awesomely.
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You need an unlocked bootloader to flash TWRP / CM.
I'm running stock v10d + root. Works awesomely.
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Yeah the guy said he had unlocked international h815, if he has I was just suggesting flashing CM
That's my DD and it is awesome
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Yeah the guy said he had unlocked international h815, if he has I was just suggesting flashing CM
That's my DD and it is awesome
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Yes mine's unlocked, NOT rooted. apparently the update it was trying to do automatically wasn't a big update because it decided it had waited long enough and did it on its own, rebooted and its still at
5.1
I'm still trying to wrap my head around all the terminology and methods of rooting droids- I came from the dark side- I've jailbroken every iphone since the first one they ever produced. My G3 was my first real phone, but like I said, I had it for a couple months stock, rooted it, and almost immediately it went kamikaze OTA update while rooted and went haywire. I limped by with a mediocre rom for another 8 months, until some drunk A Hole destroyed it on Halloween. I may or may not be said A Hole haha
So I guess now my question is, once rooted, am I stuck at 5.1 forever with no security updates, software patches ETC?
and since most people don't have a true unlocked phone, is this process easier to do? I'm probably asking in the wrong forum section now aren't I?
I sure hope at this point if you truly have an unlocked bootloader, that you have the latest MM version 20B installed and have root! - I find that the stock ROM is the best performing and least buggy of any of them (with some minor tweakin)
Unable to Unlock BootLoader. SOS!!!
Hi guys! need a lil help here. I have LG G4 H815. Now this is what's happening :
1. I have tried t install LG drivers a million times but in the device manager, there's always some problem with them during the installation.
2. Therefore, I'm unable to locate my phone using 'adb devices'. I'm stuck on this first step for last 1 week and I have tried every available lg driver on the internet but still the result is same.
3. I'm using Windows 8 Pro.
What's the solution here guys? Your help will highly be appreciated.
you need "disable driver signature verification" to install it
(advanced reboot options from windows)
Still stuck!
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you need "disable driver signature verification" to install it
(advanced reboot options from windows)
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I did as you said and disabled the driver signature verification at restart. Uninstalled the driver and installed again but still the problem persists.
When I connect the phone, LGE Android phone appears with a yellow question mark in the device manager. When I try to update the driver, it says that
"Windows found driver software for your device but encountered an error while attempting to install it.
MTP USB Device.
The system cannot find the file specified."
Still can't locate the device with adb. Please help me!
However bootloader unlock is not available for the H815P... :/
Sent from my LG-H815 using XDA-Developers mobile app
But...but...
But sir, my phone is H-815, not H-815P.
Please help me where I'm making the mistake. I want to root my phone but nothing is helping me out.
Just got the phone a few hours ago and want to root it and install Xposed. But I'm not sure what's the best path.
So far it seems like VS98610B is an old version nobody is using and that if I root it, I won't be able to upgrade in the future without breaking the phone, is that correct?
If I go to "Check for new system update" it asks if I want to update to 11A. From what I understand from this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=64116024&postcount=362 is that I want to take the update, then after it installs that update, it should ask to update again to 13B? And that it is this 13B version that I root?
Am I able to unlock the bootloader on any of these versions? Why does it ask me to go to 11A instead of straight to 13B?
All I can say is that you are damn lucky and DO NOT update or flash a non 10B image of you have any desire to unlock the bootloader and use custom ROMs and such
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Just got the phone a few hours ago and want to root it and install Xposed. But I'm not sure what's the best path.
So far it seems like VS98610B is an old version nobody is using and that if I root it, I won't be able to upgrade in the future without breaking the phone, is that correct?
If I got to "Check for new system update" it asks if I want to update to 11A. From what I understand from this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=64116024&postcount=362 is that I want to take the update, then after it installs that update, it should ask to update again to 13B? And that it is this 13B version that I root?
Am I able to unlock the bootloader on any of these versions? Why does it ask me to go to 11A instead of straight to 13B?
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Just my opinion but holding for a bootloader unlock is pointless and no you can't unlock it on any version. I waited for a year for the note 4 to get root or unlocked and never did. As days pass it's less likely we will ever see it unlocked on the g4.
To root take the OTA and get to 13b then follow the root guide in the forums....with root, xposed, and a little debloat this phone is awesome!
Awesome.that's what I was looking for. If it's already been since june and nobody has cracked it, that's not looking too good. My only worry now is why it's not taking me straight to 13b? It will take me to 13b after 11a right?
Also where is a good up-to-date root thread? There's nothing stickied.
If someone is on the verge of cracking the bootloader, how do I root this version so I can holdout, without killing my ability to upgrade in the future?
I'm also really interested in getting the fm radio working.that was one of the deciding factors when getting the phone. I did not know that Verizon crippled it.
EDIT: Also what's the benefit to upgrading? 10B is already android 5.1 so what is gained?
DerekZ10 said:
I'm also really interested in getting the fm radio working.that was one of the deciding factors when getting the phone. I did not know that Verizon crippled it.
EDIT: Also what's the benefit to upgrading? 10B is already android 5.1 so what is gained?
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I never ran on 10B, so I don't know what benefits there were going to 11, however, 11 to 13b saw major improvements to touch responsiveness for most people (I never had touch issues on my phone, so I don't know on that count, but maybe I just never noticed); I also found that the phone performs a lot better and the battery lasts a bit more.
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All I can say is that you are damn lucky and DO NOT update or flash a non 10B image of you have any desire to unlock the bootloader and use custom ROMs and such
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The rumored unlocked bootloader is vaporware. There has been no update on the status of it, especially for the Verizon variant. See here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/general/unlock-unofficial-bootloader-unlock-t3222737
I've already considered of foregoing the mythical v0 unlock bootloader (VS98610B firmware, aka 10B) and move up to VS98613B rooted to enjoy all the fixes to the phone. No point of waiting any longer without any updates.
So, I've never rooted a phone before, a tablet yes, but that was almost 10 years ago. I can follow instructions, and am technically literate, but I'm worried about bricking my phone, so simple is better. Basicly I have an verizon LG G4 that I want to root. Primarily because I need to do some GPS spoofing, and mobile hotspot stuff. The version is 11a, Should I be trying to update that first? or is there a guide out there somewhere? I've found this thread
HTML:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/orig-development/root-tmo-vzw-intl-variants-soon-root-lg-t3164765
Is this what I'm looking for?
I'm not sure if my software version matters or will limit my root options in anyway. Thanks in advance!
Hello. I'm pretty terrible at all this rooting stuff (or at least, I only do it once for each android phone I get, and then don't really look into it or stay up to date on all of it afterwards, I just use a few pluses that come along with being rooted).... Anyways, I really do need some help this time, as the confusion has really gotten to me, and I've lacked being able to find some simple answers (probably because they are just THAT simple) on google/reddit/on this forum.
Anyways, I've rooted my phone awhile back, lost it when my verizon pixel auto updated to 7.1.1 (idk how or why, pretty sure I had that disabled with root even, very frustrated) and even attempted to regain root by flashing SU with TWRP, but for some reason SU said I didn't have root still, and eventually just gave up in frustration. But now, my verizon pixel has been shutting off at ~40% battery power, and I read in the google forums that this was patched in the 7.1.2 update for pixels, and it was a software glitch rather than a malfunctioning/bad battery... So now I really want to upgrade to 7.1.2 from 7.1.1 not only to fix the battery/software issue, but also because I really want root.
I have an unlocked bootloader from when i first got my pixel and did this stuff, but now im unrooted on 7.1.1 because of that update awhile back, and want to update to 7.1.2 and root, but I've heard theres issues with rooting on the verizon because of bootloader, but that shoulden't be an issue since I unlocked it already (right? at least, I think? please let me know).
My only question (since i think i'll be able to follow this guide once I get the answer to this) is in the post he says: "Works with 7.1.2 (NJH47F, Aug 2017)".......... but since i have the verizon pixel (small version, not XL), should i be downloading this version: 7.1.2 (NHG47Q, Aug 2017, Verizon).... Or would it just be acceptable to allow my phone to auto download the update i have on it right now? Or must I download the NON verizon version as stated in the post and flash that one? Thanks for the help guys!
Thanks for any help!
-Synk
If your bootloader is actually unlocked then no update that you flash can lock it. The people that were having problems on Verizon had phones where the OEM Unlock option was there and then after a Verizon update was greyed out. But those people didn't have unlocked bootloaders. Once the bootloader on the phone is unlocked Verizon can't lock it again.
The Pixel phone isn't really a good one to root once and then forget about it because sometimes the instructions change--people needed to flash a boot signature file one month to maintain root but didn't need to do it anymore the following month. Sometimes a particular version of SU stops working after an update and you have to download a newer version. The Pixel isn't like a Nexus where flashing and rooting was simple and easy.
I don't know of any reason you wouldn't be able to root after flashing a Verizon image as long as your bootloader is unlocked but someone with experience rooting a Verizon phone would be better able to answer that.
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If your bootloader is actually unlocked then no update that you flash can lock it. The people that were having problems on Verizon had phones where the OEM Unlock option was there and then after a Verizon update was greyed out. But those people didn't have unlocked bootloaders. Once the bootloader on the phone is unlocked Verizon can't lock it again.
The Pixel phone isn't really a good one to root once and then forget about it because sometimes the instructions change--people needed to flash a boot signature file one month to maintain root but didn't need to do it anymore the following month. Sometimes a particular version of SU stops working after an update and you have to download a newer version. The Pixel isn't like a Nexus where flashing and rooting was simple and easy.
I don't know of any reason you wouldn't be able to root after flashing a Verizon image as long as your bootloader is unlocked but someone with experience rooting a Verizon phone would be better able to answer that.
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Thank you so much for the explanation. Truly, it's actually crazy how I was unable to find all of this neatly, nicely, and simply stated. Great to hear, I'm going to go on rooting, here's to hoping I don't blow it up.