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Android Pay

So I downloaded the new Android Pay app last night, but it doesn't seem to work if you have a custom ROM installed. I'm currently on Resurrection and it gives me the error "Google is unable to verify that your device or the software running on it is Android compatible".
This needs to change.
UPDATE - I found a workaround that *may* help out. Go into SuperSU and disable root (or disable however you want), try adding your cards again, and then go re-enable root. This has worked for many people on other phones with this error, but it didn't help on my T-Mobile S4
Let me know if you get it to work on another ROM (or even if it works at all on stock right now)
Dowload - http://www.mediafire.com/download/1bvbsouwtcz9mx2/Android_Pay_1.0.102576552_930000657.apk

deke997 said:
So I downloaded the new Android Pay app last night, but it doesn't seem to work if you have a custom ROM installed. I'm currently on Resurrection and it gives me the error "Google is unable to verify that your device or the software running on it is Android compatible".
This needs to change.
UPDATE - I found a workaround that *may* help out. Go into SuperSU and disable root (or disable however you want), try adding your cards again, and then go re-enable root. This has worked for many people on other phones with this error, but it didn't help on my T-Mobile S4
Let me know if you get it to work on another ROM (or even if it works at all on stock right now)
Dowload - http://www.mediafire.com/download/1bvbsouwtcz9mx2/Android_Pay_1.0.102576552_930000657.apk
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Disabling SuperSU worked for me. It allowed Android Pay to verify my phone.
Not sure I like that I HAVE to have a Lock Screen setup. And, why can't Android Pay have a lock screen built into it like the new Google Wallet does. Wouldn't we want two part authentication?
Rob

I just installed Danvdh's new 5.1 GPE rom and I'm pretty sure Android Pay was already installed. Haven't tested it yet, though. Looking forward to seeing if Xposed will work alright to keep root enabled while using Pay.

HampTheToker said:
I just installed Danvdh's new 5.1 GPE rom and I'm pretty sure Android Pay was already installed. Haven't tested it yet, though. Looking forward to seeing if Xposed will work alright to keep root enabled while using Pay.
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I re-enabled SuperSU after the install, and it seems to be working. However, it looks like updating also checks root. So, I had to disable root again to have the update to Android Pay take. But, re-enabled root after the update, and things seem to be working.
Rob

You all that state you have it working on T-MO SGH-M919, must be running the T-MO 4.4.4 software. I had it working too - even on a ROOTED 4.4.4. device. Once I install a CyanogenMod Custom LOLLIPOP ROM - and re-installed the AndroidPay, it no longer works. You get the message that ANDROID CANNOT BE VERIFIED (or some crap like that).
Phone works perfect for everything but that...and of course my GoogleWallet was upgraded and no longer has the TAP TO PAY feature...and you cannot get that one back either.
So I guess I need to find out how to get my phone back to STOCK T-MO 4.4.4, none of the downloads anywhere can actually be downloaded any more (unless anyone has a valid link one of those).
Thanks,
*BH*

I'll give you fair warning, as I participated in the lengthy discussion thread over at the Nexus 5 forum (the thread that had the Google developer participating). Here's the lowdown.
Due to liability pressure from Visa, MasterCard, and the others, Android Pay is very...uptight about its operating environment. It basically won't accept any environment it can't trust, and that basically boils down to a system that is stock and unaltered. Anything that can undermine Android's security model (root, custom ROMS, Xposed Framework, etc.) is red-flagged and the app will break. Now, before anyone begins moaning about how Google Wallet worked before, that will be going away soon under pressure from MasterCard. The new system is tokenized and closer to Chip transactions, which is where everyone will be going over the next few months, and under these new rules, if Google can't show due diligence in trying to maintain a chain of trust throughout the transaction (IOW, try their best to ensure a clean environment with no exploitable features), Google faces the bill for instances of fraud. Any attempt to address this problem simply cannot be done the way Android is setup now. Since anything with root access can do anything to the OS, there's just no way to corral this, not even with Marshmallow. Anyone who has used Samsung Pay will notice they take precautions, too. They're a little more lenient with root because they can protect the chain with Knox. Trip Knox and Samsung Pay balks.
Odds are, this development may make phone manufacturers turn back to things like Secure Elements (or some other system outside Android's scope) to provide a way to ensure a chain of trust even with root present. That's likely why Apple isn't too concerned with Apple Pay working with jailbroken phones (all Apple Pay-ready iPhones carry Secure Elements). Until further development, that's just the way it is with Android Pay.

Pokemon go does it lock out rooted devices

I have being trying to log in to Pokemon go for the last week and I'm constantly getting failed to authenticate, someone has mentioned that it may not be because of the servers but because I'm rooted. Had any one else has this issue and if so I heard safety net mentioned and that magisk can resolve this issue where do I get magsik
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I haven't logged into Pokemon Go in ages and did so just a few minutes ago. I too can't get into my account. I suspect it has to do with them blocking rooted devices. In my opinion, this is a terrible strategy because in an attempt to block cheating, they've locked out a whole section of people who root their devices and have no interest in cheating. I just said '**** it' and uninstalled the app. Yes, there are ways to try and trick it, but you're going to need to jump through a ton of hoops and mess with all sorts of settings and to me, that's not worth it at all.

I've heard magisk you simply turn off root in settings with safety net support like you would for Android pay and it works anyone done this and can this be done with a custom rom
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just got it working with xposed. magisk + systemless xposed doesn't work anymore, but chainfire's suhide + SuperSU works with it.

Magisk doesn't work anymore and you can't have xposed on the phone. You have to flash a special superuser that hides itself, I will try and find the link for you.
Follow these steps at the beginning of the thread, works for me.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/supersu/suhide-t3450396/post69021494#post69021494

They made this change about a month ago. Rejects jailbroken iphone users as well.

Might as well ask this here since it's somewhat related. I just got an HTC 10 a few days ago and one of the most common things everyone is saying in regards to root is that you need to make sure that forceencrypt is on or something or else you lose cell signal or whatever. Do Magisk/suhide/systemless root methods have this problem or do I just install everything normally? I need to catch me some Pokemans.

Unlock, Root, Xposed and then relock

Hi, my Mix2 arrived few days ago and I find MiUI quite nice, yet lacking few things. Those are easily available via xposed, hence I need to root. I'm also not so lucky in these matters so before I start to tinker with it I'd like to learn few things.
What are least dangerous ways to unlock and root phone? (heard sth about magisk, its quite new for me, haven't been rooting phones for couple years now) Is it good?
Suppose I succeed unlocking, rooting and flashing xposed, can I relock bootloader? I want that because ie AndroidPay needs that to work, and I haven't found any working rootcloack or similar (at least on Note2)
How reliable is 'the most official tool' for xiaomi flashing (from eu.xiaomi.com ?)? I mean can it bring back the dead or revert phone back to where I started, without any trace of tinkering?
As a new xiaomi owner are there any critical things I need to know?
Thanks!

If you flash magisk, which is the best thing ever btw, you won't have to relock bootloader to get Android pay working.

yeyeoke said:
If you flash magisk, which is the best thing ever btw, you won't have to relock bootloader to get Android pay working.
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Thanks, I read about that and intend to use it. Though, there might be some issues with magisk and different versions. What features does it have?
So far, need to wait 3 days to unlock bootloader.

Mighty_Ahti said:
Thanks, I read about that and intend to use it. Though, there might be some issues with magisk and different versions.
So far, need to wait 3 days to unlock bootloader.
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I've been using magisk on my Note 3 Pro since release and I've never had an issue. Yes, I got my mix 2 today and I'm also waiting for 3 days..

Mighty_Ahti said:
Hi, my Mix2 arrived few days ago and I find MiUI quite nice, yet lacking few things. Those are easily available via xposed, hence I need to root. I'm also not so lucky in these matters so before I start to tinker with it I'd like to learn few things.
What are least dangerous ways to unlock and root phone? (heard sth about magisk, its quite new for me, haven't been rooting phones for couple years now) Is it good?
Suppose I succeed unlocking, rooting and flashing xposed, can I relock bootloader? I want that because ie AndroidPay needs that to work, and I haven't found any working rootcloack or similar (at least on Note2)
How reliable is 'the most official tool' for xiaomi flashing (from eu.xiaomi.com ?)? I mean can it bring back the dead or revert phone back to where I started, without any trace of tinkering?
As a new xiaomi owner are there any critical things I need to know?
Thanks!
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It's generally considered to be dangerous to relock a bootloader with anything other than perfectly stock/factory firmware installed. It may be ok to do this technically but it sort of "ties your hands" in some ways after making an unofficial modification and makes it a bit harder to recover from a botched situation.
You can have an unlocked bootloader and still use Android Pay. This can be achieved either with a ROM that is built to accomplish this (Epic ROM is an example of this) or by using Magisk, which allows root without any sort of SafetyNet trip in many cases. I don't believe there's *any* way to install Xposed and also use Android Pay or any other SafetyNet apps...the best alternative if you really want Xposed is to use Magisk and then install the Xposed Magisk module...you still can't pass SafetyNet with this setup but Magisk allows you to disable Xposed if you're willing to uncheck it in the Magisk Manager app and reboot the phone, after which time SafetyNet should pass ok...at least with this setup you'll be able to kind of have your cake and eat it too, though it's not ideal as you'll have to reboot if you want to change the status of Xposed.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/unofficial-systemless-xposed-t3388268

Thank you for detailed answer. I didn't know that.
flyer_andy said:
the best alternative if you really want Xposed is to use Magisk and then install the Xposed Magisk module...you still can't pass SafetyNet with this setup but Magisk allows you to disable Xposed
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I tried AndroidPay few times past few days and it didn't work at all. Perhaps terminals were not compatibile. So lets say I gave up on AndroidPay - can I use regular Xposed along with Magisk? Or does it have to be that module?

Mighty_Ahti said:
Thank you for detailed answer. I didn't know that.
I tried AndroidPay few times past few days and it didn't work at all. Perhaps terminals were not compatibile. So lets say I gave up on AndroidPay - can I use regular Xposed along with Magisk? Or does it have to be that module?
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Oh! I think I may be able to help you with the Android Pay issue - my phone didn't work right with Android Pay until I made sure *all* Google apps' permissions were allowed via the Apps menu in Settings (along with "Autostart" via the security app)...and also toggled the NFC setting where it lets you select between "embedded secure element" and "HCE Wallet." It probably is on "HCE Wallet" but try toggling to "embedded secure element" and then back to "HCE Wallet" a couple of times. My Mix 2 would not make a terminal connection until I did this...it would just say "card read error." Seems like a firmware bug. Let me know if that helps!
But yeah if you don't want to use Android Pay then normal Xposed should be fine...you wouldn't need Magisk I don't think. Though, I'm not sure but I think the Magisk Xposed module probably functions the same as normal Xposed so I'm not sure there's an advantage in doing so. But of course it's all about personal preference!

Whoah, I'm still new to xiaomi/android7+ policies, where each app's permissions are reduced to bare minimum (messenger not being able to show notifications for example). I will definitely try this tomorrow.
So far I just managed to unlock BL, flash recovery and install magisk. SafetyNet checks ok. Will try xposed tomorrow after some payments ;D Thanks!

HCE wallet worked for me (I had it set to SIM wallet).
If I understand correctly here is the possible solution to xposed+magisk+androidPay.
I'd need phh's su binaries for that and keep crossing fingers for it to work on 7.1
I need to learn more about that stuff before I break something

So as I was expecting I experience troubles in installing Xposed.
I followed official way as in here And got bootloop.
I removed magisk stuff in recovery and fixed bootloop, then installed v89.0 (not .1) and also bootloop.
Im using SDK25, and miui 9 - 7.1.1 so it should be ok I think

Mighty_Ahti said:
So as I was expecting I experience troubles in installing Xposed.
I followed official way as in here And got bootloop.
I removed magisk stuff in recovery and fixed bootloop, then installed v89.0 (not .1) and also bootloop.
Im using SDK25, and miui 9 - 7.1.1 so it should be ok I think
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Disable hooks from the xposed apps settings before flashing xposed

What hooks? I dont have any modules yet

Mighty_Ahti said:
What hooks? I dont have any modules yet
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It's a toggle in the settings under experimental, disable resource hooks

Boot took longer but it works. Thanks! Do I have to keep it on all the time ?

Mighty_Ahti said:
Boot took longer but it works. Thanks! Do I have to keep it on all the time ?
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Yeah, phone won't boot with it on. Don't think it makes much difference anyway

Hi @Mighty_Ahti, how much time was "longer"? it's been loading for over 5 minutes already. Thanks

Certainly below 5 minutes.

Can someone explain magisk and its relation to the m9 and android in general?

I know there is plenty of info out there. I have read about it and watched some videos.
I wanted to hear what magisk is and what people think of it from the m9 users and modders out there. I imagine it will work slightly different on most phones. especially when were modding them.
I recently updated my phone to android 7. Im using leedroid.
I noticed all the new roms use magisk and systemless root to pass androids new safety checks so i figured id try it out.
Which involved updating my firmware so i cant go back.
What im noticing is most of the things i actually used root for are not working anymore. mostly the adblockers.
When i download the magisk modules they either dont show up or just do not do anything (unified hosts).
Im not sure if this is just my phone or if we are just not caught up with the new work arounds for android.
Can we still use supersu and have all the old mods like xposed working? or are we stuck with this half a root thing?
Just some questions. But mainly just want to start a discussion about it.

Although I've never used magisk I understand it to be another supersu.
I found rooting phones is a waste of time and effort. I was like you and rooted for adblocking but then I found adguard which made root useless for me. I unrooted and updated to 7.0 and have never looked back.
People will argue that root is for custom roms etc but what they don't seem to realise is stock roms are always best, fastest and most reliable. Custom roms use improvised methods to get the hardware working.
The only reason left to root is to cheat games and that makes the games boring after 5 minutes so what's the point anymore..

Is it worth to root your Samsung Galaxy S10+

Hello,
Yesterday, I successfully rooted my Samsung Galaxy S10+. But since I still had some questions about it, I went on and posted a thread here. User Spaceminer then pointed out that my original post was in the wrong subforum and linked me here. Naturally, I looked at some of the most popular posts in hopes to find answers to my questions. But what I found confused me more than it gave me answers.
Since 2014 with the Samsung Galaxy S5 I got used to rooting in order to disable bloatware, protect my data and customize my phone. I continued doing that with the S8+ until I recently got my hands on the S10. Now, my main reason for rooting are still the same; I want disable (not necessarily uninstall) bloatware, protect my privacy and customize my phone (such as changing the background of the dial when calling someone). But that thread made me wonder if it is even essential to root. I also found a similar post on reddit and most answers seem to agree that it is not necessary to root your phones.
Now, my situation is a bit different. For one, I already rooted my phone. Second, I don't care about warranty nor custom ROMs. But I do want to install a banking app. Also, it is a bit cumbersome to not only have to manually update your phone with every update but the booting requirements with the warning screen are also a bit annoying. So, my question is the following:
What are the advantages of rooting that are not possible without? I have 3 main concerns: Bloatware, Privacy and Customization.
The reason why I posted this in a separate threat is that I was not able to come to a definitive conclusion on my own and most discussion threads are over a year old. By now, the whole process of rooting and what is possible changed since then, so I want to get a more recent insight. I hope you can help me out.
With kind regards,
DasMalzbier

Tbh root is not needed, unless you want to use a custom rom. Most things are already in the android now.

Calyx os not make for samsung Galaxy series and 12 update also comes this year so i think rooting is unnecessary for s10 series

Root is 100%, absolutely necessary for using the phone. I cannot use any phone without it. Critical root-only capabilities:
full system backups (in twrp)
titanium backup
disable updates permanently (update ONLY when want to)
app freezers (app quarantine)
disable/remove bloatware
disable google play services/google play
automate/tasker
cf lumen
adblockers
wifi tether
busybox
superuser
ssh tunnel
update android to later version / install custom roms
optimize system
button mapper
custom theming / substratum
nav gestures
tidypanel
xposed
root explorer
app privacy customizations
3c all-in-one toolbox
more
Without root, the phone is unusable to me. I will never buy any phone without root capability. I am willing to go to different carriers just to get root on the device, or go to different manufacturers if root is blocked. For example, I will never buy a huawei device - they are locked.

I would like to say yes but I can't. the stock apps are very well designed.
The biggest concern is that custom Roms are released faster than modded apps.
For example I tried about ten GCAMs and all of them have a bug... and it becomes more complicated with Exynos.
OpenGcam is not worth samsung app.
Unable to get voice match to work.
Alarms that you can't set to a specific day with the google app.
And so on.
Root is useful when the manufacturer no longer updates the devices.
I regret having Root mine because I lost Samsung Pay and other things.

DemotionFR said:
I would like to say yes but I can't. the stock apps are very well designed.
The biggest concern is that custom Roms are released faster than modded apps.
For example I tried about ten GCAMs and all of them have a bug... and it becomes more complicated with Exynos.
OpenGcam is not worth samsung app.
Unable to get voice match to work.
Alarms that you can't set to a specific day with the google app.
And so on.
Root is useful when the manufacturer no longer updates the devices.
I regret having Root mine because I lost Samsung Pay and other things.
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The only one that would have any consequence of rooting is Samsung Pay.

xbt- said:
Root is 100%, absolutely necessary for using the phone. I cannot use any phone without it. Critical root-only capabilities:
full system backups (in twrp)
titanium backup
disable updates permanently (update ONLY when want to)
app freezers (app quarantine)
disable/remove bloatware
disable google play services/google play
automate/tasker
cf lumen
adblockers
wifi tether
busybox
superuser
ssh tunnel
update android to later version / install custom roms
optimize system
button mapper
custom theming / substratum
nav gestures
tidypanel
xposed
root explorer
app privacy customizations
3c all-in-one toolbox
more
Without root, the phone is unusable to me. I will never buy any phone without root capability. I am willing to go to different carriers just to get root on the device, or go to different manufacturers if root is blocked. For example, I will never buy a huawei device - they are locked.
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can you carrier /network unlock with the root >?

NickosD said:
Tbh root is not needed, unless you want to use a custom rom. Most things are already in the android now.
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No, even if you wanna use custom rom you don't need to root. Just pick the rom with the apps you want or just use the gapps packages you want, if want essential to work gapps then use pico or nano. If there is still something you want to remove and the romdoesn't allow, just use adb shell commands and thats it. Less issues with banks not working because of Magisk (root). I know Magisk has a feature to hide itself, change its name but depending on the app, the libs can be found and know that is Magisk, so for security purposes some apps don't work and some aren't even shown in the Google Play Store just because you rooted the device.

logandavid said:
maybe now the root is not needed but later down the road when your phone will get obsolete and newer android OS updates will be halted for S10+ then you'll be more attracted towards custom roms. Actually it is just personal preference.
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It's happening right now, I doubt S10+ will receive Android 13 and now just security and bug fix updates are being shipped by Samsung.

Haknor said:
It's happening right now, I doubt S10+ will receive Android 13 and now just security and bug fix updates are being shipped by Samsung.
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It won't get any new Android upgrades AFAIK.
But appart from tripping knox, what else do I lose if I unlock my bootloader? I read once, quite a while ago, that the battery is limited to 80% of its full capacity. Is that true?

io_gh0st said:
It won't get any new Android upgrades AFAIK.
But appart from tripping knox, what else do I lose if I unlock my bootloader? I read once, quite a while ago, that the battery is limited to 80% of its full capacity. Is that true?
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Depending on the version, you'll notice stock camera to be limited or not work as expected, secure folder, dual messenger either not working, it can trigger some banks or payment apps (especially if you root), no more ota updates (if you keep using stock rom), drm content can stop working, samsung pay, Play Store might limited the apps you see and so on... Not sure about the battery, for me unlocking the bootloader and switching to another rom made my battery last more than stock, but it depends on the rom, the device, it's not a rule of thumb.